UFOs and Nuclear Sites

[montalk]

Do Nuclear Facilities Attract UFOs? (http://www.cufon.org/contributors/DJ/Do%20Nuclear%20Facilities%20Attract%20UFOs.htm) by Donald A Johnson, PhD


The answer about whether nuclear facilities attract UFOs appears to be “yes.” There is an excess of 3,051 UFO reports for nuclear site counties above what would have been predicted based on the non-nuclear counties. For close encounters, there is an excess of 568 close encounter reports over what should have been expected based on other UFO reporting dynamics. [...]

So we are left with a somewhat troubling finding. Apparently UFO reports do occur more frequently in the vicinity of nuclear sites, after controlling for population and the region of the country. Given that the motives of the intelligences behind UFOs, assuming that UFOs are intelligently controlled, are not well known, we should be concerned. Given the long history of UFO incursions at sensitive, highly-restricted nuclear facilities; and given that the events of September 11, 2001 have drawn attention to the vulnerability of nuclear power plants to terrorist acts, it would seem to behoove national security agencies to re-direct some attention to the issue of UFOs entering restricted air space over nuclear facilities. No matter how possibly benign the motives of the UFO occupants may be, were I the new Director of Homeland Security I would certainly be paying attention to this matter.

It occurred to me, what if these UFOs are from the future after a cataclysm, and they're going back in time to check on where all the radioactive contamination originated? Meaning after the fall of civilization, these nuke plants and sites will decay and spread their radiation like Fukushima and Chernobyl have been doing. Of the few man-made things that can survive 10,000+ years and be noticeable to future civilizations, radioactive materials are near the top. Just a thought.

[Longeyes]

Robert hasting's has even read a book about it 'Ufos and nukes'
Throughly researched book I'd recommend to anyone

[Longeyes]

Apologies above post should have said written not read. Someone who features in Robert Hastings landmark book is Robert Salas.

This is a recent interview with him done by Open Minds following a lecture.
http://www.openminds.tv/retired-usaf-officer-talks-about-aliens-and-nukes-the-ufo-cabal-and-his-abduction-experience-1190/

More on the original site




Retired USAF officer talks about aliens and nukes, the UFO cabal, and his abduction experience
Posted by: Open Minds October 29, 2013 0 2760 Views

By Sean Casteel and John Weigle

Robert Salas (Credit: Sean Casteel)
The time Robert Salas spent in the United States Air Force taught him many things about the UFO phenomenon. In a lecture he delivered at the September 14, 2013, meeting of the Close Encounter Research Organization International, held in Thousand Oaks, California, a city just north of Los Angeles, Salas explained just what he has learned in no uncertain terms.
Salas’ lecture was entitled “The Complexity of Human Interactions with the UFO Phenomenon,” and he began by flatly declaring that craft controlled by extraterrestrial intelligences (ETI) are visiting us, are here for specific purposes, have been here for a long period of time, and have had complex interactions with humanity. In spite of the existence of a UFO Cabal that is hiding secrets about what’s happening to our planet and society, we are still in the process of becoming part of the “Cosmic Family.”.....

[Longeyes]

This is part of an article Combat Aircraft October this year....

is this CIA top drone can fly Mach 10 and exit the atmosphere plus hover or a UFO.


‘UFO hunters'
During the last 20 years, IRIAF Tomcats, and especially those of the 62nd TFS, have been scrambled to intercept foreign and unknown aircraft, especially those of coalition forces during Operation ‘Iraqi Freedom' in 2003. In some cases the Tomcats even engaged them, for example during the ‘Way to Jerusalem' war game on April 24, 1997. But the Tomcat's most important combat record in recent times began in 2004. When Iran's suspicious nuclear program was revealed to the public, Western nations, led by the US and Israel, warned it to abandon its nuclear activities. The US attempted to gather information concerning the activities at three important Iranian nuclear facilities: the reactor at Bushehr, an additional reactor in Arak and the fuel enrichment plant at Natanz. A number of reconnaissance UAVs were sent to collect intelligence to help prepare for a possible attack. Due to increased UAV overflights, the IRIAF HQ requested four F-4Es and four

F-14As from the 61st and 62nd TFS at Bushehr to serve as QRA interceptors, 24 hours a day, every day during fall 2004. Meanwhile, four F-4Es from the 31st TFS and four F-14As from the 81st and 82nd TFS were also maintained on alert and were even flown at night under the command of a Boeing 707 command post and an ELINT/SIGINT-configured C-130H. Between them, these monitored local airspace from 20.00hrs to 06.00hrs. According to Iranian sources, the CIA 's intelligence drones displayed astonishing flight characteristics, including an ability to fly outside the atmosphere, attain a maximum cruise speed of Mach 10, and a minimum speed of zero, with the ability to hover over the target. Finally, these drones used powerful ECM that could jam enemy radars using very high levels of magnetic energy, disrupting navigation systems. These machines were spotted several times by IRIAF ground radar sites, ELINT aircraft and airborne command posts, and they even presented some problems for the IRIAF's routine night training flights in Bushehr. Because the intelligence drones created considerable light during their night photography work, they were dubbed ‘luminous objects' by Iranian government media. In several cases, IRIAF F-14s faced them but were unable to operate their armament systems properly. In one case over Arak in November 2004, the crew of an F-14A armed with two AIM-9Js and two AIM-7E-4s spotted a luminous object flying near the heavy water plant of the Arak site. When the beam of the jet's AN/AWG-9 radar ‘painted' the object, both the RIO and pilot saw that the radar scope was disrupted, probably due to the high magnetic energy of the object increasing the power of the reflected radar waves. The pilot described the object as being spherical, with something like a green

afterburner creating a considerable amount of turbulence behind it. The Tomcat crew achieved a lock-on when it was flying a linear and constant flight path. Once the pilot selected an AIM-7E-4 to launch against it, the object increased its speed and then disappeared like a meteor. After similar attempts by F-4Es and F-14As in the Bushehr, Arak and Natanz areas, the IRIAF HQ ordered an end to the missions flown against the ‘luminous objects'. After two years of research on the objects' flight profiles and examination of remnants of a crashed example recovered in 2006 (in both Iran and then by experts in Russia), the Iranian Army specified that they were US intelligence drones. However, the government media in Iran has attempted to cover up all news of them. In 2004 and 2005, when the public spotted the objects near Arak, Ardebil and Sarab, they were described as the planet Venus! At around 04.20hrs on January 26, 2012, an Iranian Air Defense Command radar site near Bushehr identified an unknown aircraft flying towards the area. An F-14A was ordered to scramble. At 04.30hrs it took off from TFB.6, but seconds later the fighter exploded, killing both crew instantly. The reason for the incident remains a mystery, and the aircraft involved was one of the ‘fittest' IRIAF Tomcats, with the lowest flying hours in the fleet.....

[majicbar]

This is part of an article Combat Aircraft October this year....

is this CIA top drone can fly Mach 10 and exit the atmosphere plus hover or a UFO.


‘UFO hunters'
During the last 20 years, IRIAF Tomcats, and especially those of the 62nd TFS, have been scrambled to intercept foreign and unknown aircraft, especially those of coalition forces during Operation ‘Iraqi Freedom' in 2003. In some cases the Tomcats even engaged them, for example during the ‘Way to Jerusalem' war game on April 24, 1997. But the Tomcat's most important combat record in recent times began in 2004. When Iran's suspicious nuclear program was revealed to the public, Western nations, led by the US and Israel, warned it to abandon its nuclear activities. The US attempted to gather information concerning the activities at three important Iranian nuclear facilities: the reactor at Bushehr, an additional reactor in Arak and the fuel enrichment plant at Natanz. A number of reconnaissance UAVs were sent to collect intelligence to help prepare for a possible attack. Due to increased UAV overflights, the IRIAF HQ requested four F-4Es and four

F-14As from the 61st and 62nd TFS at Bushehr to serve as QRA interceptors, 24 hours a day, every day during fall 2004. Meanwhile, four F-4Es from the 31st TFS and four F-14As from the 81st and 82nd TFS were also maintained on alert and were even flown at night under the command of a Boeing 707 command post and an ELINT/SIGINT-configured C-130H. Between them, these monitored local airspace from 20.00hrs to 06.00hrs. According to Iranian sources, the CIA 's intelligence drones displayed astonishing flight characteristics, including an ability to fly outside the atmosphere, attain a maximum cruise speed of Mach 10, and a minimum speed of zero, with the ability to hover over the target. Finally, these drones used powerful ECM that could jam enemy radars using very high levels of magnetic energy, disrupting navigation systems. These machines were spotted several times by IRIAF ground radar sites, ELINT aircraft and airborne command posts, and they even presented some problems for the IRIAF's routine night training flights in Bushehr. Because the intelligence drones created considerable light during their night photography work, they were dubbed ‘luminous objects' by Iranian government media. In several cases, IRIAF F-14s faced them but were unable to operate their armament systems properly. In one case over Arak in November 2004, the crew of an F-14A armed with two AIM-9Js and two AIM-7E-4s spotted a luminous object flying near the heavy water plant of the Arak site. When the beam of the jet's AN/AWG-9 radar ‘painted' the object, both the RIO and pilot saw that the radar scope was disrupted, probably due to the high magnetic energy of the object increasing the power of the reflected radar waves. The pilot described the object as being spherical, with something like a green

afterburner creating a considerable amount of turbulence behind it. The Tomcat crew achieved a lock-on when it was flying a linear and constant flight path. Once the pilot selected an AIM-7E-4 to launch against it, the object increased its speed and then disappeared like a meteor. After similar attempts by F-4Es and F-14As in the Bushehr, Arak and Natanz areas, the IRIAF HQ ordered an end to the missions flown against the ‘luminous objects'. After two years of research on the objects' flight profiles and examination of remnants of a crashed example recovered in 2006 (in both Iran and then by experts in Russia), the Iranian Army specified that they were US intelligence drones. However, the government media in Iran has attempted to cover up all news of them. In 2004 and 2005, when the public spotted the objects near Arak, Ardebil and Sarab, they were described as the planet Venus! At around 04.20hrs on January 26, 2012, an Iranian Air Defense Command radar site near Bushehr identified an unknown aircraft flying towards the area. An F-14A was ordered to scramble. At 04.30hrs it took off from TFB.6, but seconds later the fighter exploded, killing both crew instantly. The reason for the incident remains a mystery, and the aircraft involved was one of the ‘fittest' IRIAF Tomcats, with the lowest flying hours in the fleet..... How is it the Iranian's were sure that this was a CIA drone and not a UFO? Wouldn't we have to give the Iranian's some way of being able to identify it as not a UFO? I suspect that in the climate of anti U.S. and anti CIA attitudes by the Iranians even a genuine UFO would be labeled as a U. S. CIA drone.

[Longeyes]

They alledge to have shot one down and then they and the Russians have analysed it and found it was a Us drone.
They may have shot down a regular us drone and equated the two.
But is it possible that they have back engineered a UFO to that degree? By now possibly? Anything that can fly outside the atmosphere must have some kind anti gravity drive. You need air to generate lift and if you are using a propellant you need to piggy back it on rockets, just like the shuttle, satellites and bransons virgin galactic.
Magnetic energy? ECM ? Never heard of magnetic energy magnetic field but energy? How do you overcome the massive amount of friction generated by going at Mach 10?

Thing is though neither the Iranians or they guy who wrote the article will have read Hastings book

[ProblemChild]

http://theaviationist.com/2013/11/04/iran-tomcat-blue-on-blue/#.UoSkU-KPQ1I

The F14 shot down in Jan 2012 seems to have been friendly fire:

[Longeyes]

Robert Hasting is making a documentary based on his book
http://www.openminds.tv/ufos-nukes-author-creating-documentary-video/31084

Robert Hastings, the author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, says he has amassed over 150 interviews with military veterans from both the US and USSR that have witnessed UFO events at nuclear weapons sites. In 2010, he brought several of these witnesses to the National Press Club in Washington D.C. to share their stories with the media. The event was streamed live by CNN. Now, Hastings wants to feature his research in a documentary, and he is asking for your help to complete it.

You can watch and download the the full press conference at Archive.org.

Hastings wrote on his website that the $100k budget for the documentary has been spent, and that he needs another $25k to finish it.

I emailed Hastings some questions about the film and why he thinks the project is so important. He says his UFO research stands apart from the rest because, “I am the only researcher who has focused on this type of UFO activity. My data base of nukes-related UFO incidents far exceeds that of any other investigator. That will come through in the film.”....

More on open minds

Excerpt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taoHiZFYHkA

[Longeyes]

Robert Hasting was on Coast to Coast last week talking about his new film and a great new witness he's found

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/11/30

He also needs money to help finish the documentary. Some generous donor gave him $100,000 to get it started he needs another $25,000 to get it finished.

http://www.ufohastings.com/support

[The Trident]

Interesting.
This is what baffles me, that someone is willing to donate such a large amount of $ to such a cause that is deemed "false"
i have also heard of MANY military persons having run ins with ET's around nuclear holding facilities.
My most interesting tid-bit is the air-force actually gives you a # to call and report "these types of things"
Do I have the MIB's phone number??? Lmfao

[Longeyes]

Welcome Trident
I think this film when it comes out will get the attention of many many people. Hastings believes in grassroots ufology - they are not going to disclose, it needs be forced on them by the sheer volume off evidence out there.
He now has well over a hundred extra servicemen on the record. Seeing them talk you can judge their authenticy for yourself.

If you have any contacts who are willing to talk please pass them on to Mr Hastings there is an email contact on his website. Is there anything you experienced yourself you can talk about?

[Longeyes]

http://www.openminds.tv/ufo-not-drone-nuclear-power-plant-france-says-director/31828

UFO, not drone, over nuclear power plant in France, says director

by: Alejandro Rojas

Several UFOs have been seen over nuclear power plants in France and Belgium over the last few months. They have been reported as unidentified drones, but a director at one of the plants in France says, unequivocally, that these were not drones, they were UFOs.

We first wrote about the UFO overflights of nuclear power plants in France and Belgium last week. We were notified of the story, and this latest development, by German news blogger, Andreas Müller. He runs the website, Grewi.de, which covers “frontier-science and the paranormal.”

He had previously posted a story which included eye witness testimony from witnesses who had spotted the UFOs. Müller felt that their descriptions were not indicative of drones.

According to Austrian news site ORF.at, there were 18 separate occasions UFOs were seen flying over nuclear power plants in France between early October and early November. The latest incident was announced on January 3, 2015. The nuclear power plant in Nogent-sur-Seine, southeast of Paris, says two security guards saw “two flying objects.”

The media and authorities have suspected the objects were drones flown by anti-nuclear activists to demonstrate that the plants were open to terrorist attacks via drones. However, the drones are of such a high level of sophistication that the authorities have not been able to track them. The largest anti-nuclear organizations have also denied any involvement...

Continued on Open Minds

[Longeyes]

Sud Ouest article

http://www.sudouest.fr/2015/01/21/c-est-un-ovni-pas-un-drone-qui-a-survole-la-centrale-nucleaire-du-blayais-1804446-2780.php

Google translate of article

Tuesday during the presentation of the 2014 results and the outlook for the Blayais nuclear power plant, the director Pascal Pezzani returned briefly to the case of drones
"It's a UFO, not a drone" that flew over the Blayais nuclear power plant The plant had been flown by an unidentified flying object last October © Photo
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ascal Pezzani, Director of the Blayais nuclear power plant, made the presentation yesterday the 2014 results and the outlook for the new year.
For the Blayais plant, the year that ended was "dense, even exceptional." The Director reminded the burden of maintenance activities with the stopping of the production unit # 4 refueling, partial tour of the production unit 1 and the ten-year inspection of the unit Production 3.

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2015 will be equally responsible with the replacement of the three steam generators production unit # 3 and ten-year inspection of the production unit 4.

This visit will be the last cycle the third ten visits to this plant built in the early 80s. When nuclear sûrenté Authority has given the green light, the Blayais plant will be on track to be exploited ten years older .

No reactor closure in perspective

Pascal Pezzani no secret that the objective was well on course for 60 years. He even recalled that the site has the capacity to accommodate a fifth production unit and made ​​it clear that the Blayais plant was not affected by the closure of one or more reactors in the process of energy transition law.

On the balance sheet of production, the director expressed his good report: "We have produced what we had planned to produce. This is fine. »

Of staff, the central account in 1347 agents, with more than 300 new hires over the last four years.

Finally, the director recalled that the Blayais nuclear power plant has been working for 27 million euros with the Gironde companies. This is the first department in terms of investments before the Bouches-du-Rhones, and far behind Rhône.

Trouble with security in 2014

However, he expressed the difficulties experienced by the plant in 2014 in terms of safety. As such late detection of a "leaky" valve on a backup circuit, the reconnection of an inappropriate voltage electrical panel, late detection of a position deviation of control rods from the reactor production unit # 2, or traces of external contamination on the face of a speaker who, however, had not justified special medical treatment.

The center said that these events have had no impact on plant safety.

"We were heckled on safety in early 2014. It is not up to our expectations. We stayed the course and the challenge. The level of excellence on safety is our goal, "insisted Pascal Pezzani.

October 2014: UAV drone or not?

Following the issue of an elected on the case of drones , the director downplayed the event. " Here, we have not seen drone . We saw a UFO and there was no impact on the safety of our sites. Our position is clear, when there overflight of the site and we complain we communicate. "

A communication which was, however, was seen late at the general meeting of the Local Committee of the Nuclear Information held in December.

[Longeyes]

This is a google translate of the earlier Oct Sud Ouest article which mention 7 nuclear power plants which were flow over by 'drones'.
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http://www.sudouest.fr/2014/10/30/drones-au-dessus-des-centrales-nucleaires-pas-de-menace-significative-selon-l-armee-1720994-706.php

The army believes that there is "no real threat" against the seven central flown by drones in October. The investigation is underway to identify the devices drivers
Drones over nuclear power plants, "no significant threat" by the army The Blayais plant was overflown by a drone in the night of Sunday 12 to Monday, October 13th Photo ©
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'Air Force investigation UAV flights reported in recent weeks over the French nuclear power plants, including that of Blaye Gironde , but believes that, until now, "the threat has not increased significant. "

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The airspace above the nuclear power plant is monitored by the Air Force, as part of a protocol with EDF. "We are in a phase of investigation," said Thursday the spokesman for the Air Force, Colonel Jean-Pascal Breton. "We need to check what has been said by those who have seen these drones, which are often people of central."
"Mini-drones commercially"

Drones mentioned by witnesses "are mini-drones", "sold commercially," said Colonel Breton, who said that, given the size of these devices, "there is no real threat against the facilities themselves. "

Still remains as to who was driving them. The NGO Greenpeace has strongly denied being behind these overflights but expressed very "concerned" about the lack of "answer on their origin."

Drones were spotted by site protection teams as they flew seven French plants, mainly in the week of October 13 to 20. Incidents "no consequences" according to EDF, which has complained. The overview of nuclear power plants is prohibited within a radius of five kilometers and 1,000 meters above sea level around the sites.

[Longeyes]

Came across this amazing resource today...
NICAP's - Nuclear Connection Project
http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-home.htm

[Longeyes]

Robert Hastings documentary is now available online

UFOs and Nukes: The Secret Link Revealed
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/ufosandnukes

[Longeyes]

Robert Hastings on coast to coast now
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/hastings-robert/9672

[Longeyes]

From Robert Hastings:

Robert Hastings to Appear on Coast To Coast AM: Noted Researcher Will Discuss His Just-Released UFOs and Nukes Film

Although my recently completed documentary, UFOs and Nukes: The Secret Link Revealed, has been available at Vimeo On Demand for the past few days, the official launch will take place this Sunday, April 24th, 2016, when I am interviewed by Emmy Award-winning journalist George Knapp on his Coast To Coast AM radio show.
Link above: www.vimeo.com/ondemand/ufosandnukes
The film is the culmination of decades of research into longstanding, widespread and ongoing UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites, both in the U.S. and the former Soviet Union. More than 150 U.S. Air Force veterans have gone on-the-record about UFOs hovering over, shutting down—or even temporarily activating—nuclear missiles, as well as directing laser-like beams down into nukes storage depots. These nearly unbelievable incidents have occurred hundreds of times during the Cold War era and beyond, according to the ex-military witnesses.
The shocking, ominous developments have been hidden from public view undoubtedly due to the U.S. government’s grave concern over the identity of the unknown entities piloting the super-advanced UFOs, the reasons for their provocative actions against nuclear weapons sites, and whether those actions are meant to benefit, or threaten, humankind.
I will be discussing all of this at length on Sunday’s Coast To Coast program and take questions from interested listeners.
Once again, my film may be rented or bought at www.vimeo.com/ondemand/ufosandnukes.
Rave reviews include those by UFO Truth e-zine editor Gary Heseltine, who called it “The best UFO documentary I've ever seen,” and Frederik Uldall, director of the Exopolitics Denmark group, who wrote that the film is “Absolutely brilliant! Definitely one of the top five UFO documentaries of all time.” California resident Donna Fritz added, “A must-see documentary. Hastings knocked it out of the park!”



Just managed to catch the end of the show which was this morning UK time.
He's is offering the first 1000 viewers after the show 50% off so try and get to the vimeo page as fast as you can.

[majicbar]

From Robert Hastings:

Robert Hastings to Appear on Coast To Coast AM: Noted Researcher Will Discuss His Just-Released UFOs and Nukes Film

Although my recently completed documentary, UFOs and Nukes: The Secret Link Revealed, has been available at Vimeo On Demand for the past few days, the official launch will take place this Sunday, April 24th, 2016, when I am interviewed by Emmy Award-winning journalist George Knapp on his Coast To Coast AM radio show.
Link above: www.vimeo.com/ondemand/ufosandnukes
The film is the culmination of decades of research into longstanding, widespread and ongoing UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites, both in the U.S. and the former Soviet Union. More than 150 U.S. Air Force veterans have gone on-the-record about UFOs hovering over, shutting down—or even temporarily activating—nuclear missiles, as well as directing laser-like beams down into nukes storage depots. These nearly unbelievable incidents have occurred hundreds of times during the Cold War era and beyond, according to the ex-military witnesses.
The shocking, ominous developments have been hidden from public view undoubtedly due to the U.S. government’s grave concern over the identity of the unknown entities piloting the super-advanced UFOs, the reasons for their provocative actions against nuclear weapons sites, and whether those actions are meant to benefit, or threaten, humankind.
I will be discussing all of this at length on Sunday’s Coast To Coast program and take questions from interested listeners.
Once again, my film may be rented or bought at www.vimeo.com/ondemand/ufosandnukes.
Rave reviews include those by UFO Truth e-zine editor Gary Heseltine, who called it “The best UFO documentary I've ever seen,” and Frederik Uldall, director of the Exopolitics Denmark group, who wrote that the film is “Absolutely brilliant! Definitely one of the top five UFO documentaries of all time.” California resident Donna Fritz added, “A must-see documentary. Hastings knocked it out of the park!”



Just managed to catch the end of the show which was this morning UK time.
He's is offering the first 1000 viewers after the show 50% off so try and get to the vimeo page as fast as you can.

Good show, not much really new information, but stillit was a solid presentation.

[Longeyes]

What is not new but has been largely unknown is that Ribert Hastings tracked down the two radar men who were on duty at the time, he has on film for the first time.
Great article by Jon Austin over 50% of readers say this pretty much solves it.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/667814/RENDLESHAM-UFO-Startling-new-evidence-could-solve-Britain-s-Roswell-once-and-for-all

[Longeyes]

Another cracking UFOs and Nukes story here

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/819696/Former-US-Air-Force-Captain-David-D-Schindele-Daytona-nuclear-UFO

'UFO destroys 10 US NUKES in silos' Government hushed up attack says US Air Force captain
A FORMER US Air Force captain has broken a pledge to keep quiet about an extraordinary UFO incident allegedly involving nuclear weapons.

Captain David D Schindele was formerly a Minuteman I intercontinental ballistic missile launch crew commander in the Minot Air Force Base missile field in North Dakota.

In December 1966 he was at a launch control facility, near Mohall, North Dakota, when an unexplained incident occurred.

He claims a UFO destroyed 10 nuclear-tipped missiles he was in charge of, making them unusable.

On December 6, 1966, the Minot Daily News carried a front page story saying UFOs had been reported in the local area...


Full article on the Express site
He has written a book “It Never Happened, Volume 1.”

[calikid]

Another cracking UFOs and Nukes story here

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/819696/Former-US-Air-Force-Captain-David-D-Schindele-Daytona-nuclear-UFO

'UFO destroys 10 US NUKES in silos' Government hushed up attack says US Air Force captain
A FORMER US Air Force captain has broken a pledge to keep quiet about an extraordinary UFO incident allegedly involving nuclear weapons.

Captain David D Schindele was formerly a Minuteman I intercontinental ballistic missile launch crew commander in the Minot Air Force Base missile field in North Dakota.

In December 1966 he was at a launch control facility, near Mohall, North Dakota, when an unexplained incident occurred.

He claims a UFO destroyed 10 nuclear-tipped missiles he was in charge of, making them unusable.

On December 6, 1966, the Minot Daily News carried a front page story saying UFOs had been reported in the local area...


Full article on the Express site
He has written a book “It Never Happened, Volume 1.”

I see Captain David D. Schindele's testomony is captured on YouTube back in 2013.
But his book, It Never Happened (https://www.amazon.com/Never-Happened-Force-Cover-up-Revealed/dp/0998689041/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498159620&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Captain+David+D+Schindele), published in May 2017.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyInN-UC7zU
Interesting story.

[Longeyes]

Thanks for that Calikid

Could remember if he'd testified before that was at the Citizens Hearing he's sitting next to Robert Salas.
Not sure if he has ever contacted Robert Hastings will check.

The clip text
Published on 19 May 2013 First time ever testimony of Captain David D Schindele given at the Citizen Hearing in Washington, DC at the National Press Club on April 30, 2013. The historical hearing was held from April 29 to May 03, 2013. Captain Schindele describes a frightening situation involving outside Nuclear Tampering, of which he told no one for decades, not even his wife.

[A99]

If anyone here buys his book, could you fill us in on what kind of "unworldly" incidents the author and "many" others at that Minuteman facility experienced during that time period apart from a UFO deactivating 10 missile's?

Just goes to show that when paranormal incidents occur after a UFO incident, it's not talked about; at least not in a public venue. Nevertheless, I assume he probably expatiates about those incidents in his book.

[Wansen]

I'd like to discover the mystery behind his paperback book costing $22.46!

Here's another link to an interview with him and other USAF personnel from Robert Hasting's outstanding documentary.

https://youtu.be/taoHiZFYHkA

[A99]

http://en.rodexo.com/2017/06/21/ufo-news-captain-david-d-schindele-breaks-silence-over-daytona-nuclear-ufo-weird-news/

Proceeds (of his book) will go to the Seattle Chapter of the Air Force Association.

[Longeyes]

I'm gonna order a copy will let you guys know what's in it

[A99]

That's great Longeyes and thanks ahead of time for doing that sometime in the near future. I look forward to your review of his book.

[Wansen]

http://en.rodexo.com/2017/06/21/ufo-news-captain-david-d-schindele-breaks-silence-over-daytona-nuclear-ufo-weird-news/

Proceeds (of his book) will go to the Seattle Chapter of the Air Force Association.










Good find!

[Wansen]

That's great Longeyes and thanks ahead of time for doing that sometime in the near future. I look forward to your review of his book.

Same here Longeyes, thanks for doing all the work!

:biggrin2:

[A99]

I always try to be helpful whenever possible Wansen. But seriously, when it comes down to it, you should thank my parents because if they never met, I wouldn't even be here. :biggrin2:

[calikid]

I always try to be helpful whenever possible Wansen. But seriously, when it comes down to it, you should thank my parents because if they never met, I wouldn't even be here. :biggrin2:

A99. While your "donations" post was relevant and appreciated, your parents mating habits don't add much to the conversation. http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/kissing-smiley-face.gif
Let's try to stay on topic.

THANKS

[A99]

Note to self: Need to put more effort in curbing my weird sense of humor. [GULP]

[Longeyes]

Hi Guys

Started reading It Never Happened, Volume 1: U.S. Air Force UFO Cover-up Revealed by Capt David D. Schindele

It's really well written; the guy is clearly very intelligent. He was committed believer in science and technology and freely admits he would have dismissed any claims of flying discs before an incident happened at Minot AFB.
It's not just about his story but it's a retelling of the whole USAF UFO coverup from great perspective of an officer who was in the USAF at the time. He was clearly a very talented Capt whose team apparently ended training the other silos. He has a lot of interesting insights into how Blue Book was definitely a debunking exercise for the public, Hynek visits to Minot (he was turned away the first), local sightings, he was told by a Colonel that OSI had a team camped out on base recording all the UFOs.
I haven't finished it but have read enough to give it a huge thumbs up. Shame the cover looks so cheap. Why is it the self publish books covers are so poor? This one deserves much better. It's well written, well researched and hopefully will do very well too

[calikid]

Hi Guys

Started reading It Never Happened, Volume 1: U.S. Air Force UFO Cover-up Revealed by Capt David D. Schindele

It's really well written; the guy is clearly very intelligent. He was committed believer in science and technology and freely admits he would have dismissed any claims of flying discs before an incident happened at Minot AFB.
It's not just about his story but it's a retelling of the whole USAF UFO coverup from great perspective of an officer who was in the USAF at the time. He was clearly a very talented Capt whose team apparently ended training the other silos. He has a lot of interesting insights into how Blue Book was definitely a debunking exercise for the public, Hynek visits to Minot (he was turned away the first), local sightings, he was told by a Colonel that OSI had a team camped out on base recording all the UFOs.
I haven't finished it but have read enough to give it a huge thumbs up. Shame the cover looks so cheap. Why is it the self publish books covers are so poor? This one deserves much better. It's well written, well researched and hopefully will do very well too

Thanks for the review Longeyes.
From the summaries I had read, Schindele's book did sound promising.

[Wansen]

Hi Guys

Started reading It Never Happened, Volume 1: U.S. Air Force UFO Cover-up Revealed by Capt David D. Schindele

It's really well written; the guy is clearly very intelligent. He was committed believer in science and technology and freely admits he would have dismissed any claims of flying discs before an incident happened at Minot AFB.
It's not just about his story but it's a retelling of the whole USAF UFO coverup from great perspective of an officer who was in the USAF at the time. He was clearly a very talented Capt whose team apparently ended training the other silos. He has a lot of interesting insights into how Blue Book was definitely a debunking exercise for the public, Hynek visits to Minot (he was turned away the first), local sightings, he was told by a Colonel that OSI had a team camped out on base recording all the UFOs.
I haven't finished it but have read enough to give it a huge thumbs up. Shame the cover looks so cheap. Why is it the self publish books covers are so poor? This one deserves much better. It's well written, well researched and hopefully will do very well too

My thanks for this as well Longeyes.

I'm going to put this one on the reading list per your recommendation.

[uforadio]

Thank you so much Longeyes!!!


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[A99]

Thanks Longeyes. It seems to me that years after that incident occurred at that base, the gov't has given this man permission to talk about it to the public. In fact, maybe they even requested that he do that. Does he give any indication in his book that that may have been the case? If you read between the lines in his book, were you able to pick any of that up?

At any rate, now that he's gone public with that information about what happened there, will others who were also working there at that time come forward to talk about it too in a public venue? Maybe that's already happened but I just don't know about it but, if, in fact, it hasn't happened yet, I wonder why?

Schindele first went public with it in 2001 at that UFO disclosure press meeting... so the others who were also there at that base have had plenty of time since then to follow suit and talk about it publicly too. If they haven't done that yet, this implies that they were given very explicit information on what would happen to them if they made a public disclosure about that incident or, for that matter, even a private disclosure to family members and close friends.

Did Schindele go into any detail in his book about that meeting with his superiors and their warnings about what would happen to him if he broke that code of silence about that incident? We can assume that he was also explicitly told not to talk about it to anyone even after he leaves the Air Force. Did he go into that part about that order in his book?

Why did Schindele decide to go public with that information in the first place? What makes him different than all of the other troops out there who have witnessed UFOs while on duty or have participated in a UFO cover-up who have been ordered to remain silent about it?

In any case, I think the thing that really boggles my mind is that Schindele's disclosure should have made it as a headline in the front page news, but didn't. It ranks right up there in the 'UFO lands on the White House Lawn' category. It's the kind of proof that everybody has been waiting for since the UFO phenomenon has first been introduced into the public consciousness. It's proof that we are being visited by non-terrestrial intelligence's. Or that there are humans on our planet that have technology that's so advanced, we only read about it in science fiction novels or see in science fiction movies. Yet, for the media, the disclosure of that incident was only relegated to back page news, if at all. Amazing.

[Garuda]

Hi Guys

Started reading It Never Happened, Volume 1: U.S. Air Force UFO Cover-up Revealed by Capt David D. Schindele

It's really well written; the guy is clearly very intelligent. He was committed believer in science and technology and freely admits he would have dismissed any claims of flying discs before an incident happened at Minot AFB.
It's not just about his story but it's a retelling of the whole USAF UFO coverup from great perspective of an officer who was in the USAF at the time. He was clearly a very talented Capt whose team apparently ended training the other silos. He has a lot of interesting insights into how Blue Book was definitely a debunking exercise for the public, Hynek visits to Minot (he was turned away the first), local sightings, he was told by a Colonel that OSI had a team camped out on base recording all the UFOs.
I haven't finished it but have read enough to give it a huge thumbs up. Shame the cover looks so cheap. Why is it the self publish books covers are so poor? This one deserves much better. It's well written, well researched and hopefully will do very well too

We need a "like" button for posts like these!

:thumbup:

Thanks!

[calikid]

Thanks Longeyes. It seems to me that years after that incident occurred at that base, the gov't has given this man permission to talk about it to the public. In fact, maybe they even requested that he do that. Does he give any indication in his book that that may have been the case? If you read between the lines in his book, were you able to pick any of that up?

<SNIP>
Besides the book (which I hope Longeyes will share a quote), there are a few other references as to why witnesses feel free to talk.

Referencing back to "The Disclosure Project", of whom Schindele was a member a few years before this book was published, many of the interviewed former military members stated their signed security oaths required them to NOT talk about incidents for a fixed period (like 20 or 30 years). Probably Schindele's separation date exceeded that time period, and he was legally free to discuss events without fear of prison and/or of losing his military pension.

An alternative scenario was illustrated by Penniston, who stated that when the "Halt Memo" was declassified, he was then at liberty to discuss the Rendelsham incident. Perhaps documents relating to the Missiles Incident Schindele discusses were declassified.

And a few others witnesses even went so far as to say their oath to "defend The Constitution of the USA" required them to speak out about UFO secrecy.

[Wansen]

SNIP

.... a few others witnesses even went so far as to say their oath to "defend The Constitution of the USA" required them to speak out about UFO secrecy.

I like this logic!

[A99]

Besides the book (which I hope Longeyes will share a quote), there are a few other references as to why witnesses feel free to talk.

Referencing back to "The Disclosure Project", of whom Schindele was a member a few years before this book was published, many of the interviewed former military members stated their signed security oaths required them to NOT talk about incidents for a fixed period (like 20 or 30 years). Probably Schindele's separation date exceeded that time period, and he was legally free to discuss events without fear of prison and/or of losing his military pension.

An alternative scenario was illustrated by Penniston, who stated that when the "Halt Memo" was declassified, he was then at liberty to discuss the Rendelsham incident. Perhaps documents relating to the Missiles Incident Schindele discusses were declassified.

And a few others witnesses even went so far as to say their oath to "defend The Constitution of the USA" required them to speak out about UFO secrecy.

Thanks Cal. That makes sense and I'm going to watch that Disclosure Project press conference again on You Tube to hear him go into that. I didn't pay attention to that part when I watched it some time ago because I was too shocked and amazed at his testimony about that incident at that base. That's the only thing I was fixated on at that time.

[Longeyes]

We need a "like" button for posts like these!

:thumbup:

Thanks!

:) that would be great

[Longeyes]

Thanks Longeyes. It seems to me that years after that incident occurred at that base, the gov't has given this man permission to talk about it to the public. In fact, maybe they even requested that he do that. Does he give any indication in his book that that may have been the case? If you read between the lines in his book, were you able to pick any of that up?

At any rate, now that he's gone public with that information about what happened there, will others who were also working there at that time come forward to talk about it too in a public venue? Maybe that's already happened but I just don't know about it but, if, in fact, it hasn't happened yet, I wonder why?

Schindele first went public with it in 2001 at that UFO disclosure press meeting... so the others who were also there at that base have had plenty of time since then to follow suit and talk about it publicly too. If they haven't done that yet, this implies that they were given very explicit information on what would happen to them if they made a public disclosure about that incident or, for that matter, even a private disclosure to family members and close friends.

Did Schindele go into any detail in his book about that meeting with his superiors and their warnings about what would happen to him if he broke that code of silence about that incident? We can assume that he was also explicitly told not to talk about it to anyone even after he leaves the Air Force. Did he go into that part about that order in his book?

Why did Schindele decide to go public with that information in the first place? What makes him different than all of the other troops out there who have witnessed UFOs while on duty or have participated in a UFO cover-up who have been ordered to remain silent about it?

In any case, I think the thing that really boggles my mind is that Schindele's disclosure should have made it as a headline in the front page news, but didn't. It ranks right up there in the 'UFO lands on the White House Lawn' category. It's the kind of proof that everybody has been waiting for since the UFO phenomenon has first been introduced into the public consciousness. It's proof that we are being visited by non-terrestrial intelligence's. Or that there are humans on our planet that have technology that's so advanced, we only read about it in science fiction novels or see in science fiction movies. Yet, for the media, the disclosure of that incident was only relegated to back page news, if at all. Amazing.

Hi A99
Sorry for the late reply been on a meditation retreat for a couple of weeks.
He never says anything like that at all. For him its down to his conscience he feels people have a right to know this. He's not doing this for the government as far as I can make out he's doing it on his own.
What's special about him it his belief that we all have a right to know. As he says a lot of ex-USAF and Military witnesses live in hope that the government is going to disclose this stuff so they don't have to. But after 30yrs he's come to the conclusion they won't and that keeping such a monumental truth from humanity is a crime in itself.

[Longeyes]

This sums his views up I think pretty well...
From p83 of his book


It was easy for the Air Force to maintain secrecy about incidents. It simply issued immediate and strict orders to those involved to remain silent. Everyone connected with our missile wing had a security clearance, and everyone knew it was imperative to keep one's mouth shut, not just with classified material, but also with verbal orders to keep silent. Failure to do so would spell the end of one's career, or worse. In some cases, we were simply told by a superior officer to zip lips. In other cases, it was necessary to sign a document swearing an oath of silence. In a majority of cases, the order for silence came down from the local Air Force Office of Special Investigations. It was usually delivered by someone dressed in civilian clothes with a badge under his coat, or in his wallet, or by a phone call.


So it was with me. I was told upon arriving topside from our underground LCC that I was to forget everything. I was to never say another word about the incident. Being instructed that "It Never Happened" was dismaying, but I had my orders, and I was proud of my integrity in being honorable and trustworthy. I never questioned the order, except to ask where it came from (the OSI). It would have been imprudent for me to challenge it further, since I valued my career and status. I never questioned what kind of security classification the incident had, and I was never told what the security classification was. I assumed of course that it was super sensitive, but I was never told whether it was secret, top secret, or exactly what it was all about, or why my commander and I were to pretend it never happened. That is why I continued to hold the secret for almost forty years, and long after I separated from the Air Force. That is why so many others did the same, and continue to do so. After a while, as the Air Force must have hoped, the incidents would become old lost memories. They did become old, but not lost.

Moral Responsibility


To be realistic, it's the aspect of not being "truthful' that has been bothersome in later years. There is always the conundrum of keeping true to a secret, but what if that secret involves a lie? You then ask yourself whether you have really been truthful, or have enabled perpetration of a lie toward society and the whole human community. How long can you assist in hiding a lie that would be of monumental interest to the scientific establishment, and to all of humankind? It then becomes a question of balancing moral responsibility toward a greater cause.


I have always held my government in highest regard, and respect. I fly the flag, my patriotism is beyond question, and I continue to participate with the national Air Force Association, which has a goal of promoting and advocating for strong national defense and a strong United States Air Force. I thoroughly enjoyed Air Force life and the camaraderie that came with it. I worked with very respectable, conscientious, and competent people who possessed high moral values and who worked hard to serve the Air Force in the best way they could. They all possessed college degrees, and were working to further their education. They were regular, normal Americans who were serious in their work ethic, and dedicated to home, family, friends, and their nation. Granted, this may not necessarily be a general characterization of many in the Air Force, but it certainly was in my experience, and the environment I was part of...

P85 ...When I and fellow missileers went "on-alert" in our Minuteman Launch Control Centers, with our finger on the nuclear trigger, we showed our teeth of deterrence, and we had no doubt that any would-be aggressor posing a threat to our existence would regret it. But our intent was to let world peace and freedom reign, and that is what we definitely preferred.


When I was told to never utter another word about my incident, I maintained trustworthiness in that regard. I didn't speak another word. I didn't speak to my commander again about it. I didn't talk to my wife about it. I talked to no one, because doing so was off limits. That is the way it had to be, even though flash-back memories of my incident would continue to haunt me for many years afterward. That's the way it was for many former Air Force officers who are now speaking to the Truth, and that is the way it remains for many who are still reluctant to do so.


The aspect of truthfulness, however, has come to my attention in the last few years when I learned that some Air Force officers, and other very reputable people, were speaking up about incidents they harbored quietly for many years. The incident experienced by Robert Salas became a tremendous grand awakening for me after some thirty-five years, and it made me realize that Truth was overdue. A long protected lie needed to be brought into the open.

[Wansen]

This sums his views up I think pretty well...
From p83 of his book


It was easy for the Air Force to maintain secrecy about incidents. It simply issued immediate and strict orders to those involved to remain silent. Everyone connected with our missile wing had a security clearance, and everyone knew it was imperative to keep one's mouth shut, not just with classified material, but also with verbal orders to keep silent. Failure to do so would spell the end of one's career, or worse. In some cases, we were simply told by a superior officer to zip lips. In other cases, it was necessary to sign a document swearing an oath of silence. In a majority of cases, the order for silence came down from the local Air Force Office of Special Investigations. It was usually delivered by someone dressed in civilian clothes with a badge under his coat, or in his wallet, or by a phone call.


So it was with me. I was told upon arriving topside from our underground LCC that I was to forget everything. I was to never say another word about the incident. Being instructed that "It Never Happened" was dismaying, but I had my orders, and I was proud of my integrity in being honorable and trustworthy. I never questioned the order, except to ask where it came from (the OSI). It would have been imprudent for me to challenge it further, since I valued my career and status. I never questioned what kind of security classification the incident had, and I was never told what the security classification was. I assumed of course that it was super sensitive, but I was never told whether it was secret, top secret, or exactly what it was all about, or why my commander and I were to pretend it never happened. That is why I continued to hold the secret for almost forty years, and long after I separated from the Air Force. That is why so many others did the same, and continue to do so. After a while, as the Air Force must have hoped, the incidents would become old lost memories. They did become old, but not lost.

Moral Responsibility


To be realistic, it's the aspect of not being "truthful' that has been bothersome in later years. There is always the conundrum of keeping true to a secret, but what if that secret involves a lie? You then ask yourself whether you have really been truthful, or have enabled perpetration of a lie toward society and the whole human community. How long can you assist in hiding a lie that would be of monumental interest to the scientific establishment, and to all of humankind? It then becomes a question of balancing moral responsibility toward a greater cause.


I have always held my government in highest regard, and respect. I fly the flag, my patriotism is beyond question, and I continue to participate with the national Air Force Association, which has a goal of promoting and advocating for strong national defense and a strong United States Air Force. I thoroughly enjoyed Air Force life and the camaraderie that came with it. I worked with very respectable, conscientious, and competent people who possessed high moral values and who worked hard to serve the Air Force in the best way they could. They all possessed college degrees, and were working to further their education. They were regular, normal Americans who were serious in their work ethic, and dedicated to home, family, friends, and their nation. Granted, this may not necessarily be a general characterization of many in the Air Force, but it certainly was in my experience, and the environment I was part of...

P85 ...When I and fellow missileers went "on-alert" in our Minuteman Launch Control Centers, with our finger on the nuclear trigger, we showed our teeth of deterrence, and we had no doubt that any would-be aggressor posing a threat to our existence would regret it. But our intent was to let world peace and freedom reign, and that is what we definitely preferred.


When I was told to never utter another word about my incident, I maintained trustworthiness in that regard. I didn't speak another word. I didn't speak to my commander again about it. I didn't talk to my wife about it. I talked to no one, because doing so was off limits. That is the way it had to be, even though flash-back memories of my incident would continue to haunt me for many years afterward. That's the way it was for many former Air Force officers who are now speaking to the Truth, and that is the way it remains for many who are still reluctant to do so.


The aspect of truthfulness, however, has come to my attention in the last few years when I learned that some Air Force officers, and other very reputable people, were speaking up about incidents they harbored quietly for many years. The incident experienced by Robert Salas became a tremendous grand awakening for me after some thirty-five years, and it made me realize that Truth was overdue. A long protected lie needed to be brought into the open.

Sounds like the words of a true Patriot to me.

[A99]

Hi Longeyes, thanks for answering some of my questions and can't wait to read your most recent post here which I will do after I get back from running a few errands.

[Longeyes]

Just reading his chapters about Roswell.
He may have started out a skeptic but he is obviously well versed in all the literature. His breakdown of the whereabouts of all the high level individuals is very involved.
He's read everything about Roswell.

[A99]

Schindele's testimony has not received the attention it deserves by the UFO community. A community, btw, comprised of too many who, due to their infatuation with syfy movies, fail to acknowledge and truly comprehend the significance of important real-life UFO incidents because they are not as titillating, dramatic and over-the-top as what's seen in Star Trek movies, for example. Video games have contributed to this desensitization phenomenon too.


What will it take for so many of those one's to snap out of their Hollywood syfy daze and wake up and smell the coffee on incidents like what Schindele witnessed and how important it is to focus on them with the fervency and dedication that they deserve?

[M-Albion-3D]

Schindele's testimony has not received the attention it deserves by the UFO community. A community, btw, comprised of too many who, due to their infatuation with syfy movies, fail to acknowledge and truly comprehend the significance of important real-life UFO incidents because they are not as titillating, dramatic and over-the-top as what's seen in Star Trek movies, for example. Video games have contributed to this desensitization phenomenon too.


What will it take for so many of those one's to snap out of their Hollywood syfy daze and wake up and smell the coffee on incidents like what Schindele witnessed and how important it is to focus on them with the fervency and dedication that they deserve?

Very excellent point A99.

What will it take? In my opinion, there is only one thing that will turn this whole kit-and-kaboodle inside out...in a word, DISCLOSURE.

Imo, this coming day of deliverance is what is freaking out the power elite, more than any other issue "on the books". And when that day does arrive, and it will, the sheet ain't gonna fly evenly.

[A99]

Here's a fact, we are never going to give up our nuclear missile programs.


So the question is, what's their next move? Are we getting closer to the day when they permanently dismantle all military bases around the world that have nuclear missiles on their site?


And should they do that, how will such a maneuver effect the global geopolitical and power structure that's currently in place? Wouldn't that mean that they would be the one's who are calling the shots... and not us anymore?


To me, this is a no-win situation. We either do what they want us to do or we suffer the consequences.

[Wally]

If the aliens disable all the nukes, but leave us with the conventional weapons that might not be so bad. The problem though is that they would have to get all the nukes. If somebody got one off the black market and detonated it in a major city that would be terrible. Also would having all our nukes taken away from everybody actually make us humans any more diplomatic? Or Could we still end up having World War anyway? At least without the nukes the civilian death toll hopefully wouldn't be as high and the damage to the environment would not be as catastrophic.

[A99]

Let's just go on the assumption that their information channels are so far advanced from our own, they would have no problem tracking down rogue's that still possess nuclear weapons.

Anyway, your comment is very lucid and makes sense. They have given us their warning and continue to do so. For some reason, they don't want us to destroy ourselves, hence why they want us to take the nukes off the table and for it to be our own decision to do that based on their warnings.

But if we don't do that, we have to consider that they will then choose to render humanity into extinction. Could be that they are more interested in saving the planet than anything else. Humanity's ongoing presence on this planet is not so important to them.

This said though, their message is loud and clear... get rid of the nukes. The reasons why aren't important... just get rid of the nukes.

[A99]

The CIA wants to distract those in the UFO community by working behind the scenes to promote fictional material that's uniquely catered to a specific target group within that community. They do this so that the media and public will continue to ridicule the UFO community and the UFO phenomenon itself. But more importantly, they want to distract everybody and divert them from the the most important aspect of UFOs and their warning messages about humanity ending their nuclear defense missile programs. This includes their concern about our nuclear power plants too. Richard Dolan states that there's not enough data yet on why UFOs are targeting and disabling nukes. But once again, one thing is clear, they want us to get rid of them.

[A99]

UFO Intelligence Summary produced for the Nuclear Connection Project (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-ufois.htm)
fromNICAP (http://www.nicap.org/) Website



Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge0944.htm) Sep., 1944; Oak Ridge, TN. Metal tube hovers over gaseous diffusion plant
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-hanford45.htm) Mid-July,1945; Hanford, WA. UFO over AEC plant tracked by radar, F84's scrambled
Report (http://www.nicap.org/sands480405.htm) April 5, 1948; White Sands, NM. Team watched UFO performing violent maneuvers
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-pasco.htm) July 1948; Pasco, WA. Pilot reports domed disc near AEC area
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-losalamos.htm) Dec. 5,6,7,8,11,13,14,20 & 28, 1948; Los Alamos, NM. OSI, pilots, Los Alamos
Report (http://www.nicap.org/wsandsdir.htm) April 24, 1949; Arrey, New Mexico. UFO tracking at White Sands Proving Ground
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-hanford49.htm) May 21, 1949; Moses AFB/Hanford, WA. Disc hov. restricted air space over AEC Plant
Report June 29, 1949; White Sands, NM. Naval rocket expert observed a silvery disc
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-losalamosfall49.htm) Fall, 1949; Key Atomic Base. 5 metallic objects traverse 300 miles across scope
Report (http://www.nicap.org/sands500427dir.htm) April 27, 1950; White Sands, NM. Cinetheodolite film taken by camera trk station
Report (http://www.nicap.org/sands500524dir.htm) May 24, 1950; White Sands, NM. Cinetheodolite film taken by camera trk station
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-hanford50.htm) July 30, 1950; Hanford AEC Plant, WA. UFO over AEC plant triggers scramble of F-94
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501013.htm) Oct. 13, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. Sightings by AEC security patrols
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501018.htm) Oct. 18, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. Unidentified radar contacts
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501020.htm) Oct. 20, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. UFOs sighted over "Control Zone"
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501110.htm) November 10, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. Backgrnd radiation regist as object in control area
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501205.htm) December 5, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. FBI document, possible radar jamming reported
Report (http://www.nicap.org/rina.htm) December 6, 1950; Northeastern U.S.. National alert when radar picked up unknowns
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501214.htm) December 14, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. RADAR targets over AEC base
Report December 18, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. R/V Sightings over AEC plant
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501218.htm) December 18, 1950; NEPA, Oak Ridge, TN. Army report to FBI
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge501220.htm) December 20, 1950; Oak Ridge, TN. AN&C Radar tracks UFO
Report (http://www.nicap.org/terredir.htm) October 9, 1951; Hulman Fld (IN); Paris (IL); Newport atomic plant Unknown
Report (http://www.nicap.org/armada51dir.htm) October 30, 1951; Yucca Flats, NV. Squadrons of UFOs over atomic test site
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge511207.htm) December 7, 1951; Oak Ridge, TN. 20' square obs by secty guard; F-47's scrambled
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-riverplant.htm) May 10, 1952; SC. UFO Incident at Savannah River (AEC) Plant
Report (http://www.nicap.org/f-86dir.htm) Summer of 1952; Kirtland AFB, NM. Famous AF F-86 shooting incident
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge520621.htm) June 21, 1952; Oak Ridge, TN. R/V sightings over AEC plant
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-hanford520705.htm) July 5, 1952; Hanford Atomic Plant, WA. Four pilots rep disc hov over AEC plant
Report (http://www.nicap.org/mainbrace.htm) Sept, 1952; Oper. Mainbrace, North Sea area/military exercise Ruppelt's version (http://www.nicap.org/brace.htm)
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-hanford521210.htm) December 10, 1952; Washington state, Hanford AEC Plant, R/V
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-oakridge530719.htm) July 19, 1953; Oak Ridge, TN. Black objects maneuvered over area near an F-86
Report (http://www.nicap.org/docs/castle/castdir.htm) April 7, 1954; USS Curtiss carrying nuclear weapons buzzed by UFO
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-shippingport.htm) October 1, 1957; Shippingport, PA. UFO circled atomic plant
Report (http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-kirtland57.htm) November 4, 1957; Kirtland AFB, NM. Egg-shaped UFO hovers over base
Report (http://www.nicap.org/571106b.htm) November 6, 1957; Radium Springs, NM. Rnd object rose verticalfrom mountain top
Report February, 1961; Western Europe, France. DDisc near nuclear power station

[A99]

continuation of that list starting from number 38 .... here's the link: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZZY.htm
(https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZZY.htm)
38 Report Summer of 1961; Near Moscow. Report of Russian tact missiles being fired on UFO
Report August 7, 1962; Oracle, Arizona. UFO over Titan missile silo, Jets sent up
Report October, 1962; NORAD Reg 2, nr Palermo AFB, NY. Scramb hot bird Cuban Missile Crisis
Report 1962; Unidentified A.F. Test Range, UFO blocked tracking of U.S. rocket
Report February 7, 1963; Charlottesville, VA. Planes scrambled, UFOs over missile site.
Report April 30, 1964; Stallion Test Site, NM. B-57 radios white object landed, phto recon
Report May 15, 1964; Stallion Site, NM. Two scrambles, radar/vis, UFOs sent proper IFF.
Report May 22, 1964; White Sands, NM. Auto radar tracks UFO on tape, sends phony IFF.
Report September 15, 1964; Big Sur, CA. Destroys Atlas warhead, filmed by mil trk crew
Report June 5, 1965; Lynn/Nahant, MA. UFOs over GE facility.
Report October, 1965; Lake Norman, NC. Three UFOs over McGuire Nuclear Power Station
Report October 7, 1965; Edwards AFB, CA. Encounter between UFO and a hot bird
Report April, 1966; Malmstrom AFB, MT. UFOs, alarms, 10 missiles inoperative.
Report June 16, 1966; Elista, Kalmuk, Russia. Scientist report UFO maneuv nr missile test.
Report August 24,1966; North Dakota. UFO jammed a Minuteman site
Report February 10, 1967; Sandusky, OH. Saucer hovers over AEC facility with blue beam.
Report March 2, 1967; White Sands, NM. 20 silver objects, radar blips at 7 mile alt.
Report March 5, 1967; Minot AFB, North Dakota. Craft trk on radar hovered over missile site
Report March 16, 1967; Malmstrom AFB, MT. UFO and "no-go Fault" cond at missile facility
Report March 24, 1967; Los Alamos, NM. Disc hovers for 10 minutes.
Report March 30, 1967; Malmstrom AFB, MT. Radar/visual, UFO 10 missiles shut down.
Report October 26, 1967; Portland, England. Cylinder w/ 4 arms over nuc plant, A-R.
Report Late Summer, 1968; Lake Norman, NC. Domed UFO near AEC plant
Report September 17, 1968; Nellis AFB, NV. Two military ATCs report violent maneuvers.
Report July or August, 1972; Lake Norman, NC. Saucer near nuclear facility
Report March 1975; Lake Murray, Lexington, SC. CE with octagon near nuclear site
Report October 27, 1975; Loring AFB, Maine. UFO circles weapons storage area
Report October 30, 1975; Wurtsmith AFB Michigan. UFO chased by KC-135 tanker
Report Late October 1975; Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado. Night NORAD went on top alert
Report November 7, 1975; Malmstrom AFB, Montana. Targeting system tampered with
Report November 8, 1975; Malmstrom AFB, Montana. F-106's scrambled after UFOs
Report November 22, 1975; Savannah, Georgia. Pilots observe UFO near nuclear plant
Report August 9, 1980; Albuquerque, NM, UFO landing near Kirtland, AFB
Report October 18, 1982; Lake Norman, NC. Silver oval UFO with "four legs"
Report October 13, 1983; Gaffney, SC. UFO near Cherokee Nuclear Station
Report June 24, 1984; Peekskill, NY. UFO over nuc plant causes alert and elect failure
Report April 26, 1986; USSR. Chernobyl explosion at 1:23 AM, preceded by UFO activity
Report March 4, 1988; Eastlake, OH. Triangular objects hd toward Perry nuclear power plant
76 Report April 22, 1998; Washington State. UFOs sighted at sub base and nuc storage facilityshington State. UFOs sighted at sub base and nuc storage facility
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[Wansen]

Wow!

Damn impressive list A99!

Many thanks for this.

[A99]

It's an old list and it needs to be updated. For example, in reference to the second to the last one, there have been a number of sightings of UFO's near Perry's nuclear power plant since that list was made and I know this because I lived right down the road (on the lake) from there in a high-rise where I had some of my own sightings which I've talked about at this forum. There was a lot of activity in that area and it continued after I moved to my current location.

But that's just one example and I'm sure there are many, many others from all over the world. Nineteen years is a looong time. It needs to be updated.

[Longeyes]

Here a more recent report which has come to light

http://www.openminds.tv/report-of-ufo-over-nuclear-plant-in-nebraska-found-in-recently-declassified-documents/39849

Report of UFO over nuclear plant in Nebraska found in recently declassified documents

Posted by: Alejandro Rojas March 23, 2017 0

A former security officer at the Cooper Nuclear Station near Brownville, Nebraska reported seeing a UFO over the plant sometime in the late 80s. The report was found in documents recently declassified as a result of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) for UFO files.

The files were posted today on the website TheBlackVault.com. The website is a repository for millions of pages of declassified documents. It is ran by John Greenewald, who says he requested the NRC files in late February, and was surprised how quickly they responded. He received the UFO files today...


...The detail section of the report reads (reproduced unedited):

The CI [Confidential Informant] described an event that occurred during his employment as a security officer at Cooper Nuclear Station. He was employed there from 1986 through 1989 and did not remember specifically when during that time the event occurred.

While posted at the intake structure one night, he observed an “unidentified flying object” fly down the Missouri River about 150 feet in the air and hover in front of the intake. He observed it for a few moments and then contacted a fellow security officer who also observed it (he could not recall the individual’s name exactly but his first name was [REDACTED] and his last name was either [REDACTED ]. After they together observed the UFO, it turned and went back up the river and did not come back that shift. He and the other officer shared their observation with their peers who did not believe them.

The next evening he again was posted at the intake and observed the UFO return again. This time he didn’t call anyone until the UFO had traversed into the protected area and hovered above the protected area just north of the Reactor Building. He said it was roughly triangular in shape with a circle of rotating lights on the bottom. He could not hear any propulsion noise from the UFO. He believes that it was roughly 1/3 the size of the Reactor Building. Once the UFO hovered in the protected area. He called the security break room and most of the officers on shift observed the UFO. These individuals included [REDACTED] (both of whom were security officers), all of whom still work at the plant today. After hovering there for a few minutes, the UFO exited the protected are [sic] and returned back up the river to the north as it had the previous night. The CI said that he never saw the UFO at the plant again after that evening.

The CI believes that this incident should have been reported as a violation of the protected area space but was not reported...


Full story on Open Minds

[A99]

Great report! Thanks for posting that. :)

[A99]

But of course we have to take it into consideration that most sightings and incidents ARE NOT REPORTED. :(

[A99]

Here’s a quote from an article, posted by the OP of this thread, by Dr. Donald Johnson of Sun River Research that’s based on statistical evidence of heightened UFO sightings and incidents at or near nuclear sites:
“So we are left with a somewhat troubling finding. Apparently UFO reports do occur more frequently in the vicinity of nuclear sites, after controlling for population and the region of the country. Given that the motives of the intelligences behind UFOs, assuming that UFOs are intelligently controlled, are not well known, we should be concerned. Given the long history of UFO incursions at sensitive, highly-restricted nuclear facilities; and given that the events of September 11, 2001 have drawn attention to the vulnerability of nuclear power plants to terrorist acts, it would seem to behoove national security agencies to re-direct some attention to the issue of UFOs entering restricted air space over nuclear facilities. No matter how possibly benign the motives of the UFO occupants may be, were I the new Director of Homeland Security I would certainly be paying attention to this matter.”
http://www.cufon.org/contributors/DJ/Do%20Nuclear%20Facilities%20Attract%20UFOs.htm

So what’s really going on here? Certainly, if those aircraft were identifiable as being from another country, such events would be splashed all over the front page news. The public would be immediately informed of our government’s response, by our highest authorities, to such an event. Yet, when it’s a UFO… they remain silent; and this follows for our media too (at least in most cases).

That we are supposed to be living in a democracy and that they continue to keep the public in the dark about what they know about UFOs is something that I find appalling on every level. It makes me feel like this supposedly free and open society in which we live is nothing but a colossal illusion because they keep important information from us that we, as citizens of this country, have every right to know about.

People in this community keep pushing for Disclosure but even though we are lacking authoritative answers to major fundamental questions wrt UFOs and those intelligence's that operate them, we already have ample hard core evidence, in the form of these nuclear site sightings and incursions, as to why they are even here on this planet in the first place.

And sure, we would love to have much more detailed and in-depth information that we assume our governments possess, but by now we should accept that hell will freeze over before they ever release any information of that sort to us. But just because we don’t have that information does not give any of us the excuse to ignore and diminish the urgency of their primary objective and message to us… get rid of the nukes. If we ignore that message, we do so at our own peril.

[A99]

I've always found it so amusing when some people say that the reason why the gov't is so secretive about UFOs is to protect the public. Because if they came out and admitted that we are being visited by intelliences from other planets, all hell would break loose and it would be like how it was in that 1940 Orson Wells 'War of the Worlds' radio broadcast. Lol, what a load of baloney.


I also find it amusing when other people say that the gov't will not come forward with their knowledge about UFOs because they don't want the public to know that, yes, just as conspiracy theorists have been saying, they've known all along about UFOs but they've kept everything about it from the public. For them to admit that, is for them to admit that they've been lying to us since way back into the last century.


But the real reason why the gov't will not come forward and admit that we are being visited is because our visitors are telling them to get rid of the nukes... and our governments don't want to do that. This is why they continue with their UFO disinformation campaigns. An informed public on this issue, has the potential to topple the entire geopolitical applecart and for them, that would be their worst nightmare come true.

[epo333]

Very excellent point A99.

What will it take? In my opinion, there is only one thing that will turn this whole kit-and-kaboodle inside out...in a word, DISCLOSURE.

Imo, this coming day of deliverance is what is freaking out the power elite, more than any other issue "on the books". And when that day does arrive, and it will, the sheet ain't gonna fly evenly.

I've said it before, and now again . . . IMO . . . DISCLOSURE is only going to happen when the ET's want it to. No Government on earth is going to blow the whistle and bow to them or give up what they perceive as power.

Lets see, how about a landing at a MLB Baseball Game . . . or . . . NFL Game . . . or everybody's favorite The White House Lawn!

[A99]

They will continue to menacingly hover over our nuclear missile sites and disable nukes and hover over nuclear power plants too.... for all to see. Especially top military personnel in the Air Force? What more disclosure do we need? It's the ET's that are doing the disclosing in cases like that. Who needs the gov't to do that when the ET's are already doing it?

Landing on the white house lawn or disabling nukes at nuclear missile sites. Which one is the more compelling?

[epo333]

I have no doubt the ETs are influencing Governments' NOT to use their Nukes, and that many a personnel are privy to their interaction. However this is not the disclosure that common CONTACT will have.

Friend or Foe...?


If they make true disclosure, than if friend, expect milestones in energy, medicine, food production, etc.,etc.,

If Foe, well all bets are off!

[A99]

They will always be our foe solong as we still have nukes. Plain and simple.

If they can travel through time and have seen our future, which is something we can't rule out, then that's why they've been abducting humans for bio material because they plan on doing a restart on humanity either here, or somewhere else. Preservation of the planet is the objective.

So this implies that they know that we are going to self-destruct because they have already seen that .... or they are going to intervene and wipe us off the face of the earth in some way (if we don't give up our nukes... and nuclear power plants). Only the difference between them doing that or us doing it to ourselves via a nuclear war means the planet will survive as opposed to ending up irreparably damaged.

Do you know how quiet it often times is, before a storm? It's quiet now. For how long? Who knows but nevertheless, it's very unsettling.

[A99]

They've given us their message on why they are here and what they want us to do. They are giving us time to let their message sink in; in the remote possibility that we will do what we need to do to save ourselves. They are not going to allow us to engage in a nuclear war in any way, shape or form. They will implement their own plan for human extinction before that ever happens.

At the end of the day, at least we can say that they are giving us the courtesy, beforehand, on why they are going to do that. This way, when the day comes when everything starts to rapidly unfold, we'll know that that the only ones we have to blame, are ourselves.

[Wally]

They've given us their message on why they are here and what they want us to do. They are giving us time to let their message sink in; in the remote possibility that we will do what we need to do to save ourselves. They are not going to allow us to engage in a nuclear war in any way, shape or form. They will implement their own plan for human extinction before that ever happens.

At the end of the day, at least we can say that they are giving us the courtesy, beforehand, on why they are going to do that. This way, when the day comes when everything starts to rapidly unfold, we'll know that that the only ones we have to blame, are ourselves.

Hopefully it won't come to genocide, Forcible nuclear disarmament would be preferred. Though we would still have the problem of overpopulation with over 7 billion people now. Maybe they will have mercy on us and allow us to relocate to other habitable worlds, though I'm afraid the aliens may instead go with forced sterilization.

[A99]

Thanks for your feedback! I think it would be wise for us to brainstorm on what we think their next move will be. The balls in their court and you've mentioned some possibilities that are worth mulling over and processing. I'll post later after I've spent some time doing that.

[A99]

The MOST important UFO video EVER made: UFOs and NUKES: The Secret Connection Revealed. A Robert Hastings Production


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUr_TF9o7sY

[Wansen]

The MOST important UFO video EVER made: UFOs and NUKES: The Secret Connection Revealed. A Robert Hastings Production


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUr_TF9o7sY

An outstanding documentary.

I'm jealous you found a free copy, I paid for mine. :(

[A99]

When interviewed, Hastings was asked why he thinks our visitors are monitoring (and disabling nukes) nuclear military bases and why they would even care to give us what can be interpreted as a message and warning about our use of those weapons. Here was his response to that question which he presented as only his opinion and nothing more. Our visitors aren’t telling WHY they are showing up at those bases like they do so all we can do is speculate on that but, nevertheless, he does place value on John Mack’s work with alien abductee’s and what those abductee’s have been told by our visitors about why they are here:

1. He said they could be like how a parent will slap a child’s hand when it gets too close to a hot stove. They don’t want us to destroy our planet.
Or…
2. They may have underwater ocean bases and a nuclear war will destroy our environment which will also destroy their operations here.
Or…
3. They may want to invade planet Earth and don’t want to inherit a destroyed radioactive planet. They may be from a dying planet and they plan on relocating to Earth for that reason. So in that sense, they don’t want us to go to war because they have selfish interests.
But…
4. He said it’s more likely, based on the nuclear weapons evidence (in reference to his own research); that they are trying to prevent a primitive race, humans, from doing damage to itself. This may indicate that they are moral and ethical beings but, on the other hand, it also could mean that they may have a neutral scientific reason for not wanting us to destroy our planet too.

[Wansen]

While I realize it is nothing more than a purely irrational fantasy, I can't help but imagine what the reaction would be if Hastings' documentary aired on a major network in prime time hosted by (for example) Charlie Rose.

What I wouldn't give...

[Longeyes]

I know he tried to get it aired on some of the networks obviously with no success

[A99]

Here's an interesting article published in March 2015. At that time, UFOs had been spotted over nuclear power plants in France and Belgium. France was put on 'high alert' due to those sightings. Below are a few snippets from that article.

UFO Buzzed French Nuclear Power Plant Says Director


Several unidentified flying objects have been spotted over nuclear power plants in France and Belgium over the last few months, and the story has been all over European news.
Thus far, the media has reported that the UFOs are likely drones. However, currently, months after the sightings began, the French government still doesn’t know who they belong to. Now a director of one of those nuclear power plants in France says whatever flew over his plant in October, 2014, was not a drone. It was a UFO.

According to Austrian news site ORF.at (http://orf.at/stories/2259911/), there were 18 separate occasions UFOs were seen flying over nuclear power plants in France between early October and early November. The latest incident was announced on January 3, 2015. A nuclear power plant in Nogent-sur-Seine, southeast of Paris, reported that two security guards saw “two flying objects.”
The media has reported that some authorities suspect the objects are drones flown by anti-nuclear activists to demonstrate that the plants are open to terrorist attacks via drones. However, authorities have not been able to track them. The largest anti-nuclear organizations have also denied any involvement....

According to the French newspaper Sud Ouest (http://www.sudouest.fr/2015/01/21/c-est-un-ovni-pas-un-drone-qui-a-survole-la-centrale-nucleaire-du-blayais-1804446-2780.php), a director of one of the nuclear power plants has expressed his opinion that a drone was not what flew over his nuclear power plant. Pascal Pezzani, Director of Blayais Nuclear Power Plant in southwestern France, held a presentation on the plant’s results for 2014 and the outlook for the plant in the future.
Pezzani addressed the drone issue, and stated (translated by Google Translate): “Here, we have not seen drone. We saw a UFO and there was no impact on the safety of our sites. Our position is clear, when there overflight of the site and we complain we communicate.”

He alerted me to this latest news, and previously had posted a story about civilian witnesses to the objects. According to Müller, the testimony was printed in the latest issue of a Swiss magazine called Mysteries. Writer Robert Fleischer found witnesses at forum-ovni-ufologie.com (http://www.forum-ovni-ufologie.com/), a popular French UFO forum.

Müller writes that Fleischer is skeptical of the drone explanation, given the descriptions by witnesses. Fleischer suspects there is more to it than French authorities are willing to admit.
It has been reported (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-government-on-high-alert-after-unexplained-drone-flights-over-nuclear-power-stations-9850138.html) that France is on “high alert” due to these UFO overflights of nuclear power plants, and with the latest being earlier this year, this mystery shows every indication of becoming an even bigger concern in 2015.
For more about this story and other alleged UFO sightings over nuclear facilities, visit OpenMinds.tv (http://www.openminds.tv/?s=nuclear).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alejandro-rojas/ufo-buzzed-french-nuclear_b_6558798.html

[Wansen]

Interesting!

Seems they're potentially Omnipresent when nukes/nuclear involved.

Although I've not seen any 'official' reports, I've heard (from my daughter) that they were seen
repeatedly around Fukushima just prior to and after the Tsunami.

[A99]

If UFOs showed up at that reactor, I wouldn't be surprised but I'm only focusing on those UFO sightings and incidents where the witnesses who are reporting them have credientials that are beyond reproach. Like for example, the director of a nuclear facility reporting his own sighting there. Same goes for lower ranked personnel who are reporting such sightings too at those locations.


I'm guessing such incidents are under-reported at nuclear power plants because those companies that operate them probably threaten their employee's, who have seen them, with permanent job termination if they report those incidents to the public. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it is in most cases.

[Wansen]

If UFOs showed up at that reactor, I wouldn't be surprised but I'm only focusing on those UFO sightings and incidents where the witnesses who are reporting them have credientials that are beyond reproach. Like for example, the director of a nuclear facility reporting his own sighting there. Same goes for lower ranked personnel who are reporting such sightings too at those locations.


I'm guessing such incidents are under-reported at nuclear power plants because those companies that operate them probably threaten their employee's, who have seen them, with permanent job termination if they report those incidents to the public. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it is in most cases.

Sound thinking especially given the replete deception in this subject.

Of course, my "little girl" would never lie to me...:angel_not:

[A99]

Sound thinking especially given the replete deception in this subject.

Of course, my "little girl" would never lie to me...:angel_not:

Fukushima? Pretty hard to vet those reports. I agree. Helps though if one speaks Japanese to be able to discern which ones are hogwash and which ones are true.
Is your daughter in Japan now? Or does she know anyone who's there who could give us a more realistic appraisal on the veracity of any of those UFO reports at that site?

[Wansen]

Fukushima? Pretty hard to vet those reports. I agree. Helps though if one speaks Japanese to be able to discern which ones are hogwash and which ones are true.
Is your daughter in Japan now? Or does she know anyone who's there who could give us a more realistic appraisal on the veracity of any of those UFO reports at that site?

She's lived in Tokyo for the past fifteen years or so. She was born in Japan and her Japanese is native fluent. The reports of UFOs were primarily from TV sources and likely quite difficult to vet.

Normally, I don't put much stock in such accounts however, there were so many reports that (IMO) the preponderance lent some weight to the validity.

I'm the first to admit that this is more speculative than scientific and I applaud your method of vetted sources.

[A99]

What's more speculative than scientific? I'm unclear what you are referring to.

PS -- Sorry, i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, could you just speak in plain everyday English? I love your big words and sophisticated phrases but I have trouble sometimes understanding exactly what you are saying when you sometimes express yourself that way here in this forum. :) lol

The simpler the better works best for everybody. No offense.

[Wansen]

What's more speculative than scientific? I'm unclear what you are referring to.

PS -- Sorry, i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, could you just speak in plain everyday English? I love your big words and sophisticated phrases but I have trouble sometimes understanding exactly what you are saying when you sometimes express yourself that way here in this forum. :) lol

The simpler the better works best for everybody. No offense.

Speculative = me adding reports here that my daughter heard on Japanese TV.

Scientific = you using vetted reports from eye-witnesses employed at nuclear facility.

[A99]

thank you!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/80/a1/38/80a1387c06db73bc0e3a34c74c139d6a--image-search-dogs.jpg

You're an excellent writer. I'll just ask you to explain what you just said if I have any questions about that.

[Wansen]

Happy to clarify.

:D

[A99]

I think the thing that threw me off was the word "scientific" because normal vetting of those who report things, especially when it comes to reports on UFOs seen at those nuclear locations, like Fukushima, for example, does not seem like something I would qualify as being part of a scientific process. So for this reason, I wanted clarification on what exactly you were saying in that one sentence I highlighted here. I thought I was missing something. Anyway, thanks again for your patience with me on this. I always enjoy reading your posts at this forum and, many times, I've found them more insightful than most.

[Wally]

This whole situation with North Korea has got me worried. While it would be great if the aliens shot down any nukes that they launch at us (or we launch at them) I'm afraid that there may be some sort of "prime directive" or other rules that would prevent them from interfering.

[A99]

They already seem to be one step beyond that hypothetical non-interference protocol (StarTrek’s Prime Directive) because the hard-core data we have on this strongly indicates that they have been engaging in limited direct intervention which is clearly demonstrated by the following:
1. Sightings and Incursions at nuclear missile bases
2. ET abductions
3. Deliberate over flights of large metropolitan area’s which, in some cases have involved mass sightings. We can speculate that their 'message' to us, in those cases, could be that they want us to know that they are here.
4. Deliberate over flights at nuclear power plants.

[Chris]

They already seem to be one step beyond that hypothetical non-interference protocol (StarTrek’s Prime Directive) because the hard-core data we have on this strongly indicates that they have been engaging in limited direct intervention which is clearly demonstrated by the following:
1. Sightings and Incursions at nuclear missile bases
2. ET abductions
3. Deliberate over flights of large metropolitan area’s which, in some cases have involved mass sightings. We can speculate that their 'message' to us, in those cases, could be that they want us to know that they are here.
4. Deliberate over flights at nuclear power plants.

Not to mention the "gift" of several pieces of technology and the possibility that we are their ancestors because of genetic manipulation. And then of course there's the crop circles. Not all of them, but many are not of earthly origin.

[A99]

I was going to add that my list is only the tip of the iceberg but I figured some here might add more to it anyway and I'm glad you did! Thanks for the doing that! :)

[A99]

Those artifacts from Roswell that Corso was ordered to distribute for reverse engineering were not 'gifts', at least in the normal usage of that word. But were they accidental 'gifts'? I believe so. Therefore the word 'gift' would suffice wrt what we can say those artifacts turned out to be. :)

I personally do not believe that ETs are going to give us any intentional 'gifts', at least from their technology dept., until we give up the nukes.

[Longeyes]

They were 'gifts' if the crashes were perhaps 'Trojan Horses' as has been suggested, a way of seeding technology on a planet for a motive we don't understand. Extrapolating from the effects the transistor, microchips, glass fibres have had in the last 70 yrs, perhaps to create AI? or a global control network where everyone is microchipped? We just carry ours around for them in the form of mobile phones. Who knows? I always find it quite unlikely that Et craft weren't equipped to deal with radar!?! Who knows
Someone out there has a much better idea than us that's for sure.

[A99]

That's kind of creepy isn't it? Could very well be true. Who knows? It certainly does make sense on a few different levels.

[Wally]

Wonder what the aliens think of the molten salt reactors that use thorium?

[A99]

Wonder what the aliens think of the molten salt reactors that use thorium?

Googled the following info....
It uses lithium fluoride/beryllium fluoride (FLiBe) salt as its primary coolant in bothcircuits. This is based on earlier US work on the molten salt reactor program. Fuel isuranium-233 bred from thorium in FLiBe blanket salt.

Why sodium is used as a coolant in nuclear reactors?


The high thermal conductivity properties effectively create a reservoir of heat capacity which provides thermal inertia against overheating. Water is difficult to use as a coolant for a fast reactor because water acts as a neutron moderator that slows the fast neutrons into thermal neutrons.

Is thorium better than uranium?


Thorium. Thorium is more abundant in nature than uranium. It is fertile rather thanfissile, and can only be used as a fuel in conjunction with a fissile material such as recycled plutonium. Thorium fuels can breed fissile uranium-233 to be used in various kinds of nuclear reactors.

Is thorium dangerous?


When thorium is irradiated, or exposed to radiation to prepare it for use as a fuel in nuclear reactions, the process forms small amounts of uranium-232. That highly radioactive isotope makes any handling of the fuel outside of a large reactor or reprocessing facility incredibly dangerous.

[A99]

$100 Million E.T. Hunt Spots 15 Mysterious Light Flashes

https://www.space.com/37992-fast-radio-bursts-breakthrough-listen.html

So the gov't dishes out $100 mill to fund a university based ET Hunt project like this regardless that they already have vaults full of photographic material of UFO sightings and incursions at nuclear missile bases that they have confiscated from their own military that gives hard-core proof that ETs are already here.

What a colossal waste of tax-payer money!

[A99]

Five Reasons Why The Signals From Stephen Hawking's Breakthrough Initiative Aren't Aliens


https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/09/04/five-reasons-why-the-signals-from-stephen-hawkings-breakthrough-initiative-arent-aliens/#3643741517a7

https://blogs-images.forbes.com/startswithabang/files/2017/09/FRB_locations.jpg?width=960

On Saturday, August 26th, astronomers reinvestigated a source that emitted a little-understood event: a fast radio burst (FRB).
In 2012, a series of nine bursts were observed by both the Very Large Array and Arecibo, four of which were seen simultaneously.
For the first time, this allowed us to pinpoint the location of a FRB's source: a dwarf galaxy 3 billion light years away.
Last month's reinvestigation discovered a series of 15 repeating FRBs from the same source, each lasting under 300 microseconds.


Is it advanced, powerful aliens? There are five reasons why that's likely untrue.

1.) They're too common. Based on the bursts we've seen, there are over 10,000 unique FRBs, every day, over the entire sky.
2.) The FRB signal is variable (http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=10675). The energy density, signal strength, and time intervals are all irregular, evidence of a natural phenomenon.
3.) Active galaxies have produced similar radio signals (http://spaceref.com/astronomy/fast-radio-burst-afterglow-was-actually-a-flickering-black-hole.html). Flickering, feeding, supermassive black holes can cause them. The galaxy housing these FRBs possesses exactly this (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/04/science/fast-radio-burst-galaxy.html).
4.) FRBs are 1019 times stronger than humanity's strongest transmissions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roumoules_radio_transmitter). They're all at least that powerful, with no micro-FRBs.
5.) Many astrophysical explanations exist for FRBs. AGNs and magnetars are common; no aliens are necessary.

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Possible sighting at Scottish Nuclear submarine base.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/1896507/watch-as-huge-mystery-lights-shine-hundreds-of-feet-into-the-sky-above-faslane-nuclear-submarine-base/

A BIZARRE white light was captured shining into the sky above a Scots nuclear sub base.
The mystery UFO was spotted eerily floating above Gare Loch at Faslane naval base in Helensburgh.
The bizarre glow was captured by a punter on Saturday night
The bewildered man was over three miles away across the water in Greenock when he spotted the unidentified glow at around 10.30pm on Saturday.
He told The Scottish Sun: “It was Saturday at around half ten when I saw it.
“I thought it was strange when I saw two bright white lights in the sky then they kind of merged into one.
“The footage was taken about three miles away, it just appeared above Faslane....

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Not to be missed Robert Salas live streaming UFO and Nukes event live tomorrow


https://youtu.be/LTf5-TNASoI

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New interview with Robert Hasting on the Good Trouble Show
The link is not embedding yet will post later

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Still not embedding but here it is


https://www.youtube.com/live/R9LnuLDb25I?feature=shared

[kingfish]

Still not embedding but here it is


https://www.youtube.com/live/R9LnuLDb25I?feature=shared



I tried this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9LnuLDb25I

It redirected a couple of times to another video, but eventually got to it (without the " ?feature=shared")

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Ok I'll remember that, thanks Kingfish, I've had problems before and it's always the /live videos. Youtube doesn't want them embedded it seems.