Suspicious Experiences Possibly Related To Alien/Abduction Phenomenon [Archive]

lycaeus

12-28-2012, 02:49 PM

I have a few things I want to share, some experiences I've had that relate to aliens or abduction. I'll post them in intervals because it's easier for me to focus on one thing at a time. Any comments are appreciated.

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There is a vivid dream that has stuck in my conscious memory. It was really traumatizing and I can picture it pretty clearly. There are two dreams I recorded in my notebook for the two days prior to the really vivid one that seemed to be foreshadowing of something negative to come:

25/2/2010
"I was at Brandon's house and Jerry was there. Jerry thought I was into hard drugs."
(Brandon is older than me, and a wicked singer and guitarist that I admired. Jerry taught both of us and was a wise, loving father-figure to me. When I dreamt of him thinking I'm into drugs, that indicates that I'm not on the right path as Jerry symbolized the 'good/right/virtuous' path of life. And I didn't want him to know about my partying. What stood out was my conscious, guiltful acknowledgment that I had screwed up)

26/2/2010
"I was holding my sword like I was last night. I looked down and noticed it was really twisted out of shape from me pushing on it. I'd also seen me pull my whole toenail off with my fingers."
(I think the bent sword represents my weakened defenses. My self-mutilation represents that I am hurting myself, probably due to self-destructive thinking and activities.)

27/2/2012
The notes are really bad so I'll replay it mostly from memory:

I awoke (in my dream) out of bed and walked out of my bedroom, very disturbed or alarmed. I had a sense that 'they were coming'(!). I remember walking into the living room and noticed the front door of the basement apartment was open. I could see people walking up to the front door, outside. I looked around the living room, and saw the people who were over last night, who slept over, sleeping on the floor, a mattress and a couch. There were 3-5 friends/room-mates sleeping there. I started yelling at them to wake up, really loud. I started gathering some of the various weapons I kept around the apartment so I could give to them to use to fight off the people who were coming. I grabbed a golf club, a baseball bat, a sword and I think a beebee gun. I tossed the weapons at my sleeping friends as I screamed at them to wake up. I remember saying something along the lines of 'I told you! It's them, the ones I've been talking about. Now you see!?'. Nobody was getting up so I started shaking and slapping them but it was of no use. They were all just out cold and before ya know it, I notice there are a bunch of people in the living room. Some I think were all-human, but some had heads like gorillas, and I think their bodies might have been concealed by clothes. They were mostly, if not all of them, 'gorilla men'. The memory is a bit vague and I was really emotional so I don't remember all the details.
Before I had the chance to throw a punch, one of them stuck a needle in my arm. I was extremely pissed off, and everything faded into black.
In the blackness, it kind of felt like I was sitting and I don't know how much time had passed. Then I felt, the strangely familiar, sensation of a needle go right into the top of my head. I 'knew' that this injection was of memories. I thought that some people around me were talking about injecting me with memories and sending me home, or it was my inner, intuitive voice that was telling me the injection was of memories.
Then the blackness turned into me walking in a city I wasn't familiar with. At this point in the dream, I 'woke up' and had 'remembered that I ran into someone who stuck a needle into me and that there was a handful of guys in my living room'. I kept on walking and was quickly enveloped in a whirlwind, then I woke up in my bed. (I took a strong dose of melatonin that night, probably no more than 3 or 4 times the recommended dose. Just enough to get my caffeine saturated body to sleep.) When I awoke that morning, I scribbled down a few incoherant sentences, but later in the day I remembered it more clearly.

That dream can easily be my imagination running wild from reading conspiracy and alien books. It's just really curious because it was so vivid.

I'm also suspicious for other reasons. It's not the only dream with needles. I've woken up with a perfectly round scoop mark on my right ankle. I've also woken up with a strange mark near the scoop mark that you could only view under a black light. It was about 5mm. It was a little circle with two symmetrical squares on each side of the circle. This mark was subdermal (under the skin) and couldn't be scrubbed off (believe me, I tried). It was greenish yellow. There were no hiliters in the house either. I showed several people the mark too. My room mate also woke up with green yellow markings all over his arm, a few days after I woke with mine. His marks were not symmetrical geometric shapes, but looked more like random spill stains, or grab marks he thought. They had straight edges. There were green yellow drops on the couch he slept on in my room that you could only see under the black light.

lycaeus

12-28-2012, 05:42 PM

OBE/Channeling To/From Andromeda :biggrin2:

Me and my room mate were up late one night, wrecked on coffee. We started talking about channeling and decided to give it a whirl. My room mate/best friend "JC" and I laid down, closed our eyes and tried to channel. I got nothing but within seconds JC said "I'm getting Marcy". I doubt he was making this up because I was there when it was happening and he wasn't in to alien or channeling books like I was. He never talked about aliens or believed in reincarnation or any of that. At the time, he was in the moment, experiencing something weird with his eyes closed.

He said that he flew through the stars and was transported to a building that looked like it was from Attack of The Clones. He walked into a room where Marcy said 'Welcome to Andromeda'. He kept his eyes closed and said it was difficult for him to talk to me, but he laughed because it was such 'a crazy weird thing to be in two places at once'. He spoke telepathically with Marcy and verbally with me. He said it was easier for me to ask the questions and he would give me the answers. I took notes on the whole conversation, but couldn't type fast enough to get everything. I got most of all of Marcy's responses though, but not my questions, so I'm filling in the blanks from memory (in brackets). He had trouble communicating the whole conversation to me while it was happening, so the this will seem pretty incomplete. Plus I haven't talked to him in a couple years, but there are some interesting things. :

lycaeus

12-28-2012, 05:43 PM

(she identified herself as)
marcy from andromeda
never be content
you will be content when you die
bitter (JC said she wasn't stunningly beautiful, just normally human looking, with a somewhat serious or 'bitter' demeanor)likes jazz, mozart (I was kind of confused about what to ask an alien from another galaxy so I asked about the kind of music she likes)
something about the sun (?)
sun and earth from space perspective (what JC was seeing)
your destiny is your destiny, you know what it is (I asked what my destiny was)
andromeda is the biggest galaxy, the hq for the entire multiverse
milky way is little brother protected by andromeda
pay attention!
nowhere on earth is safe (I asked if there were any safe spots on earth)
vision of death, icy, swastika, snow falling (JC described a dilapidated city covered in snow, desolate)
JC, look out for yourself (JC had attempted suicide a year before. His love of his life was cheating on him at this time. A couple months later he jumped out of a window but luckily his dad caught his feet)
JC alone on beach, calm weather, hot sand. only person (JC had a vision of himself. [He was extremely wise and talented for his age])

protect yourself, care more about yourself
not sure about a flood in toronto, but would not say if she knew (I asked about the end of the world)
all eyes are on you
(Question about how we can remove the hate from our souls so we can experience more love)
care more about yourself
(Q about humanity shifting to a higher frequency)
no higher dimension
humanity is not becoming more psychic
*smiling*, you're gonna do great!
(Q: Are hard times ahead?)
but first you need to care about yourself
hard times are ahead, but we will survive
the weather won't change too much in your lifetime
does routine checkups, most people don't notice (She said she is like a guidance cousellor. She dedicates all her time to helping others whether they listen or not. Unfortunately, many people don't get to talk to people like her because they dismiss the voices in their head as insanity)
meditation is good
weed (marijuana) and drinking is a bad idea, stay away from those things. it's a distraction
(Q: Is smoking detrimental?)
cigarettes are not detrimental, but a distraction
(Q: Distraction from what?)
distraction from existence
key is to be yourself
(Are you human?)
human, but works in andromeda, lived there for past 18 years
(Are magic mushrooms good?)
mushrooms are good, yes and no, don't overindulge. [she was reluctant in saying this]
(the only thing you shouldn't use in moderation is moderation!)
she likes that saying
if everyone did 1 g of shrooms every day, no hallucination, everyone would be loving and enjoy life
love is your natural state of being, hate is synthetic
You do not love everyone.
(JC had vision of bandages [???])
stop wasting your life by sleeping it away
you know what you need to do
(How much sleep do we really need?)
optimal sleep is 1/2 hour naps multiple times a day, like an animal, short naps, be more like a dog
but 8 hours a night, in this society
(Q: How do we remove the hate to make room for love?)
how does a junkie drop an addiction? hatred is synthetic and love is natural. you're supposed to love. take out the problem
(Q:What is the biggest problem?)
pride is the biggest problem
a lot of pride on this planet, people are proud of nothing
a lot of stupidity
(Q: How do I stop having nightmares?)
nightmares and dreams are the border between unconscious and conscious self, if there's inner turmoil, it is reflected as outer turmoil. the more problem free you are the less nightmares
(Q: What's with the weird people in my room at night, who the hell are they?)
your paranoia isn't delusion, but it's something for you to cry about
the more nightmares, the more inner turmoil
bad things in daily life=more inner turmoil
one is pure consciousness, other is half consciousness
look at dreams for problems and fix them
don't stress too much
don't worry too much about dreams (I was obsessed with writing every dream and felt guilty when I missed one)
better yourself, be a good human being
don't obsess, love is an obsession
cut out the fear
(Q: Do negative beings feed on fear?)
the conspiracy that beings feed on fear is a lie
the beings you see are the fear and anxiety
things in the world are hard for us to understand
beings are not entirely fabrications though, they exist because of inner turmoil. they don't feed off the inner turmoil, they are the inner turmoil
the problem with you humans is you don't care
you care about the wrong things
she doesn't have much of a life, devoted to giving people advice, whether or not they listen. a lot of paperwork (lol)
a lot of paperwork in andromeda
like a phoneless telemarketing service
always think of yourself as an important person, care for yourself, do the best for yourself, but always do more for others
if you don't think a lot of yourself, you won't think much of others
don't be proud for the wrong reasons
(Q: What do ear tones mean?)
never been asked that question before
ear tones are hard to explain. our concept of electricity is wrong. world made up of nerves like human body, electrical response, sometimes they are warnings, like goosebumps, sometimes nothing.
no difference between left and right ears
the pitch is important, higher means more important
she doesn't know everything though
(I met a guy online who said he was being trained by a being from m45 so I asked if she knew anything about the 'pleiadean training program')
m 45 is the pleiades, not aware of pleiades training, who, what or why they train people
andromedans more like a guidance office set in middle of universe
a lot of people asking about pleiades and apocalyptic events. she's not aware of any doomsday events.
(but she said that she) wouldn't say even if she was
for all she knows, the pleiadean's could be doing it for amusement
(Q: Were we genetically modified?)
JC had a visualization, of all life, every human evolutionary stage. from the big bang to the first cell, to a fish etc...
there has been more than one genetic manipulation done to humans,
the conspiracy that we were engineered to be slaves, no manipulation can make one a slave, people simply enslave one another
slavery is in the mind
there is a possibility to be free
the manipulation was done to share gifts other species have, wanted to share with an earthly creature
(Q: Do aliens write music?)
other species do make music and create
a lot of sentient, more advanced species out there
the universe is mental, the human body isn't automically as strong as other species
human beings are the ones enslaving each other, like earth gangsters kill each other
a lot of people fearful of aliens
this whole insanity thing holds people back
(Q: What's your definition of insanity?)
the only definition of insanity is one who harms another
voices in the head are harmless
a lot of people on earth are from different parts of the universe, their souls
(Q: What is the empty white space I remember before I was born?)
the white space is probably an imagination of the afterlife, before being transferred to prison they put you in a holding cell.
you sit there and contemplate before you move into a body. a painful process
people are not treated nicely there, but as a criminal
after being reincarnated over and over again the employees there start to get very frustrated
we are ignorant
LEARN YOUR LESSONS
you can learn a lot from religions,
if you look at all worldly religions, almost all have the same values, but their flaw is that they centralize their worship to a deity
if it was more open, it would be more helpful
you can learn a lot from religious texts, like the seven deadly sins
pride, eating too much food, greed and vanity are all things that will hold you back
(Q: Is there any significance to the random doodles that JC was just drawing earlier?)
helicopter: is from ancient egyptian hieroglyphs (I showed JC a picture recently from the 'net)
the city with tsunami is an unconscious fear of mine that JC is aware of
every time we talk of toronto its unconsciously brought up. JC is aware of my fear
illuminati eye: is from internet
sun between new mountains: is dawn of the new day from j maxwell
random scribbly writing: language nothing known to man, just a doodle
put it this way, if you're on the beach and the water is glistening, gorgeous, off on horizon u c 2 mountains, tall and pointy, slowly sun rises higher above mountains. if you saw that, it would be beautiful. but if you stay on the beach too long you will get burned
all in perception
a lot of financially powerful people, but spiritually lacking
they will be treated poorly in afterlife, will keep reincarnating, moreso than those who see the sun as something beautiful
(Q:What do our weird birthmarks mean?)
birth marks, skin discoloration. JC forgot he burnt himself

A99

12-28-2012, 06:11 PM

This is an interesting thread! I skimmed it over and bookmarked it to read it later when I have time to do that.

lycaeus

12-29-2012, 03:13 AM

OBE/Channeling To/From Andromeda (continued...)
The first channeling ended when we mentioned that we had to clean the kitchen. Marcy told us 'go clean the kitchen'. So we did. I want to point out that we felt excited, positive, happy and clear headed during and after this channeling. Marcy seemed really friendly and was interested in helping us. She didn't play to my ego and that is especially evident when she said 'You don't love everyone'. That was in response to my comment where I said 'I try to love everyone'.

After we did some chores, we went back to my room and tried to contact her again. I was frustrated because I wasn't able to OBE Andromeda, but my friend did it with ease. I never believed he was making it up because he was completely immersed in the experience and concentrating very hard on talking to 2 people at once (me and marcy).

So I closed my eyes and tried real hard for a few moments at silencing my mind calling out and being receptive but got nothing. So JC said he'd try again. Instantly he got back there! He said he was in a normal human looking waiting room, liike in a school office where other people sat around. He looked at a magazine there. I asked what the mag' was about and he said he didn't really notice, but it was just a normal magazine about houses or clothes or something normal. Soon, he was in the room with Marcy. They were looking at each other again and communicated without moving their lips. JC asked why I couldn't contact her and her immediate response was 'Oh, we only talk to females here' (!? strange...). JC is bi sexual and I am heterosexual. Marcy said something about how straight men are 'too rational' so I guess that mean I wasn't open enough in some way. JC did argue for me and said that I had a right to talk to her since he did though.

He kept bugging her, so she picked up a phone and 'called' me. (JC said that he wasn't sure if she was pretending or actually attempting to communicate with me). So I closed my eyes and tried again, but I got nothing. I was disappointed and began to doubt the reality of this happening, but I've always believed that JC was telling the truth. This happened around the summer time of 2010 at my old apartment, where a bunch of weird things happened during the time I lived there. We never tried to channel her again. There is a picture of me in that room, and there are almost a hundred 'orbs' floating around...

I also want to point out that JC was different than me. I will write more about his anomalies, but at the time this channeling happened, the best way to describe our differences is that he was more pure of heart than me. I was constantly indulging my lower mind focused on materiality and being egotistical) and he was more focused on writing music and dealing with his shadow side, being up front and honest about his issues. He was far more confident than me and not as burdened as much as myself by fear and depression (I was going though a really rough time for a few reasons). So my conclusion is that his soul was more pure/honest than mine. He was singing way more often than me too (singing cleanses the soul fast) so that may have helped as well. JC noticed around this time period, that I had a black circle above my head when he saw my aura. It appeared and then faded after a few seconds. Maybe that means I had a negative attachment, idk.

The comment about how straight men are too rational to receive communication has created a subtle doubt in me. Maybe the whole thing was a projection of his unconscious? But maybe there is a reality to that comment. Either way, it seemed real, and gave us both a positive boost in the right direction.

lycaeus

12-29-2012, 03:28 AM

OBE/Channeling To/From Andromeda (continued...)

JC said that the building where Marcy's 'guidance counsellor office' was like a building or city floating in space. The inside looked like in these pictures:

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Neuru

12-29-2012, 01:33 PM

she doesn't have much of a life, devoted to giving people advice, whether or not they listen. a lot of paperwork (lol)
a lot of paperwork in andromeda
like a phoneless telemarketing service
For a long time now I've wondered if ETs have to deal with telepathic spam, maybe there's the answer?:biggrin2:

(Q: What is the empty white space I remember before I was born?)
the white space is probably an imagination of the afterlife, before being transferred to prison they put you in a holding cell.
you sit there and contemplate before you move into a body. a painful process
people are not treated nicely there, but as a criminal
after being reincarnated over and over again the employees there start to get very frustrated
Interesting take on the afterlife.

lycaeus

12-30-2012, 10:38 AM

A99:
Lucaeus, I definitely think that this is very true and it was something that Dan Mitchell said on his blog too. And as for "going through the dark night of the soul", anyone who has had a spiritual awakening, has gone through something like that and it's part of the "process". Carl Jung has written about this topic extensively.

Because you seem to be going through a spiritual crisis now, my suggestion to you is to start attending mass or service in your local area every week. Just being around people who are spiritually evolved, and there would have to be at least a few of those people at those services, may rub off on you. IOW's, just being in the same room with them can do wonders! There's much to be said about group worship to G-d. You are not going to find that on the internet becaue you need to be actually with people like that in-person and not "virtually". Check out if there is a Unity Church in your area. That may be a good start. Just throwing in my .02 worth.

About Dan's warning to stay away from reading alien stuff... I thought it was good advice and still do but I had a bad impression of him so I didn't take it too seriously.

About the dark night of the soul... that phrase seems to underestimate the impact of a spiritual crisis. I'd like to know how many years a dark night of the soul is supposed to last. It's not a two month depression thing.

For working through your psychological shadow, I found this author/podcaster (http://kephas.podomatic.com/) to be of much help and inspiration, if anyone's interested.

Thanks for the advice but I went to a church service one time and it was the creepiest experience ever with a lot of dull people randomly saying 'praise Jesus' and 'hallelujah' lol. I like the pure teachings of Christianity, but modern churches don't work for me and I don't do well in big crowds, but fortunately I do have good people in the real physical world I can talk to and spend time with. Some of the finest people I've known are Christians though, so I'm not hating on it, it just doesn't work for me. I would be asking too many questions and making everyone uncomfortable.

My favourite religion at the moment is Gnosticism. I really like their teachings which you can find online (http://gnosticteachings.org/).

The problem is that I have a lot of suspicions and questions about fringe stuff and it's almost impossible to find people in the real world to talk about it directly. That's why I like this forum :cool:

lycaeus

12-30-2012, 11:57 AM

@Fore, thanks again for the response

I am not one of those types who are a strong believer that Spirituals suck on emotions.

They might get a kick out of it though in causing despair and tragedy. I dunno.

I started really questioning this after the channeling with Marcy posted above^^^^ when she said that the emotional feeding by the beings is a lie. But she said that the beings were the fear and anxiety and that there are things about this world that are hard to understand.

I've thought that negative beings don't really give anything, they just take and eventually evolve into a black hole, while those who give might evolve into a star.

Maybe it's not technically emotions but life force energy they feed on? I would like to see some more evidence about this. I've heard stories online like about people seeing weird etheric things sucking their energy leaving them exhausted. And I've felt a lot of times that simply being near certain people can noticably drain your energy. So I figure that non-physical beings use physical beings as an energy source but it's probably more complicated, I'm just guessing.

I didn't have that strong a reaction to it as I got used to the process.

But yeah, some of these folks can get you riled up. (Assuming that is your case)

I've had a lot of dreams as a kid with monstrous demonic looking beings who scared the hell out of me. Most of them, it seemed like all they wanted to do was scare me and torment me. So my best guess is that they either get a real energy boost like a vampire, or they are just sick in the head.

One dream I had when I was 5ish was weird. Memory is a little hazy but I remember this: It was dark everywhere and it seemed like I was underground, in a dark blue/black canyon with lots of caves and cliffs. There was a dirt pathway I was walking on lined with candles and skulls. I walked up to some sort of alter and a being with a dark cloak was standing there. I asked him about his face and he said in a deep demonic voice "I have no faaaacccceeee!" He took his hood off and I was sucked into the blackness where his head was supposed to be into a downward whirlpool where other souls were spinning.I thought I was trapt, but I woke up and crawled into my mom's bed.

I also remember at this same age in kindergarten class, I had this fear of a black hole opening up above the classroom that would suck everyone in. I visualized it a lot and decided I would save anyone if they got sucked in. Strange thing to think about for a little kid...

You should start here and see what causes the insomnia or any paranoid thoughts about someone being in the room.

Remember it's not paranoia if it is actually there.

Well, if I've been reading or watching videos about anything alien, conspiracy or demonic related, then it's harder to sleep than a day where I read gnostic stuff and played more guitar. But there is a constant fear of someone appearing beside the bed every single night regardless. Not sure how much of the fear is rational or based on fantasies though, but it's probably a bit of both. I've had a lot of sleep paralysis dreams too where I can't scream when I want to where I'm either in a dream, or in my bed with strange beings around.

Around 6 months ago I was lying in bed, half asleep it seems and I remember someone beside my bed. (I'm always open to this stuff being psychological fantasies). He had his hand hovering (not touching) over my groin and I think he had some sort of device. If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure I didn't have any erotic dreams, but I was sexually aroused. I remember some words were given to me, but all I remember was the phrase "...all my millions of friends...". I thought this was either mind control programming, or a weird dream resulting from my obsession with reading alien stuff, but it felt real.

About 6 years ago, when I first started waking up to the truth, I had a dream that I was lying on a table with people around me. Someone hit the top of my head with something and a huge electrical shock went through my body... Evidence or paranoia, idk.

Also, a room mate told me he saw a tall grey alien standing in my room staring directly at me while I laid down to sleep on my bed. I wasn't asleep though, I just had my eyes closed and was struggling to pass out. I kept thinking that I should go grab my sword from the other room and put it beside my bed. It was a rare night that I didn't have it there and while I had this huge urge to go and get it, I didn't want to because I was trying to not give into fear and 'conspiracy theories'.

JC (room mate) woke me up with a whisper and said 'Did you see that?' I said no. And he immediately drew me a quick sketch of a tall grey looking thing with big eyes. He said that he thought he was going to die, he was sure of it. It just stared at me and when JC saw it it faded into nothingness. He was ghost white. When I asked him about it a few weeks later he said 'What are you talking about?'. He forgot about it, but remembered when I reminded him. He didn't talk about it again. He acknowledged that it happened but I think he wanted to deny it or forget about it.

There are a few other anomalies I will write about in the future, that also make it hard to sleep sometimes.

starving it of negativity, prayer and aligning with God are the best things to do
I'm definitely listening to what you wrote. I'm going to pray more and make more of an effort to stay on the right path. I'm not going to obsess about alien conspiracies and demonic stuff anymore. I want to focus more on music, living life and positive religious stuff like Gnosticism.

A99

12-30-2012, 12:23 PM

lycaeus

01-01-2013, 10:03 AM

(last few posts are a continuation from here (http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?991-Hypnogogic-images&p=17287&viewfull=1#post17287))

lycaeus

01-01-2013, 10:39 AM

Just had a weird dream and hypnopompic vision to kick off the new year. Hope everyone is excited for another one! :biggrin2:

I fell asleep around 11 30 with the lights on. Forget what I dreamt about but I woke up around 2 30 because I was cold and to turn the lights off. I tend to have better dreams when I'm nice and warm.

The dream involved me swimming in a nice sunny lake with friends and family. I then noticed a shark came and put his mouth around my left arm. Fortunately he had no teeth. I observed it calmly and noticed he was dead and the bottom half of his body was torn off, a little bloody. I shook it off and swam ashore.

I forget a lot of the dreams but I remember something about being at a house party with friends and family. Everyone was having a good time. Except for me it seems. I was in the kitchen and some bastards wanted to tie me up, put me in a pot and eat me. I felt paralyzed. I was extremely annoyed that none of my family wanted to help me amongst this horror and they were oblivious as to what was going on.

I noticed something funny with my chest and ribcage. There was a bony ball under the skin and on top of ribcage. I realized that I could nudge it around a bit, that I could push it to hang under the edge of the middle of my ribcage, or just sit out in front. I thought that it was a broken bone. It was also weird to see that the two sides of my ribcage were convex (not concave). I thought I should see a doctor.

(In waking life, I've been noticing a light pain under my chest muscle on the right side. Doesn't hurt, but I take notice. Could be from smoking.)

So that part of my dreaming can easily be explained as psychological stuff in my opinion. The next part felt real but I would rather think of it as a dream.

Observing my weird chest, I soon found that I was laying in bed on my back. A tall black figure appeared at the end of my bed. I couldn't see his face. It looked like he was wearing a robe or cloak. My first impression was that this was an old friend from high school I used to smoke weed with every day (I don't do this anymore though). But I knew it wasn't, it was nothing but pure evil.

He spoke to me telepathically (I think). There was probably a bit more that he said but all I remember is him saying "Okay B*** (my name)here's the deal. I'm going to go and lie down with your mom". My mom lives in another town so I wasn't too worried. Figure he was just trying to piss me off.

I tried really hard to lift my arm and give him the finger but I was paralyzed. All I wanted to do was jump up and beat the hell out of him but I couldn't. He disappeared, then at 4 17am I got up and wrote down what I could remember.

...

Since moving here this December, me and my room mates have noticed some strange things.

One said she sees ghosts and stuff all the time. A couple weeks ago my buddy heard people talking in the living room. He saw a shadow figure in the hallway too. He ran downstairs to grab a wine bottle. He was too scared to look in the living room but said he could clearly hear several people talking, even the sound of brushing against the christmas tree. They both tell me this place has bad vibes. I don't think it helps that one is obsessed with watching horror movies. (After my last dream I went up and she was watching the Scream demon running around killing people lol come on!)

I also saw a weird thing walking home in December. It was dark and I saw someone on the sidewalk across the street. He then leaned against a big pole. I thought he was hiding from me so he could mug me. I looked away for a second and when I looked back, there was no pole and he was gone! I was convinced I saw something so I'm either schizophrenic or seeing ghosts.

Fore encouraged me to build a stronger relationship with God so that is what I'm trying to do more of lately, taking it more seriously. I threw out my 'alien workshop' skate tess yesterday. I'm also trying as hard as possible not to do my '5 points' OCD ritual and weeding out cynical thoughts. So maybe the demon thing is trying to scare me because I am making a positive change of intent in the right direction.

lycaeus

01-03-2013, 04:28 PM

I remember a strange dream when I was about 13. I was at my sisters dads place and there weren't enough beds so I shared the queensized with my little sis.

I forget most of the dream but near the end it was like I was in a psychedelic cartoon. I was lying on a bed or a couch. The strange thing is that it seemed I was viewing myself from someone else's viewing point. The room was really bright, glowing with colour. I saw there were two angels beside me. The prominant colours that stood out were yellow, orange, gold and white light. Reminded me of the simpsons for some reason.

The two angels felt like a mother and father figure. They were petting my head repeatedly, lovingly touching me lightly saying these words over and over: "We will always love you, forever and for always we will love you, we will always love you, forever and for always..." During the dream it felt very nice and warm.

But when I woke up I was scared to death! I felt that something very wrong had just happened. I was too scared to move or whisper to my sleeping sister beside me. I 'knew' that someone had broken into the room and I was scared to death that some murderer was hiding under the bed. One of the scariest things I've ever felt. I looked up and saw that the window above us was open and that scared me even more.

I laid in bed silently for a while unsure of what to do. I finally summoned the courage to whisper to my sister 'I'm going to the washroom'. She just rolled over and went back to sleep. So I got up, went to the washroom and then sat down with my step-dad to watch some TV. He was sure it was just a bad dream and was kind of laughing at me. I felt really conflicted. I was very disturbed this night, but a few hours later I went back to bed.

At first I thought this was a loving visit from positive beings, but I now suspect that these 'angels' could be a screen memory to cover up something. But I'm not sure. The dream stuck with me though and I can't forget it.

...

I also remember a sleep paralysis dream at this same house but while I was sleeping on the living room couch. I remember sleeping there, and then there was a demon approaching the couch from behind me. The demon looked identical to the 'Scream demon' from the movies. That day I had been watching Creed's music video of 'What If' which featured that demon repeatedly, so that's probably why.

But the memory was lucid and involved me in the living room, laying on the couch. It wasn't a fantastic dreamworld. As the demon approached I tried my hardest to scream but could not. That's all I remember.

The weirdest part about my sleep paralysis dreams is this sense of familiarity, the thought like 'Oh, here we go again. Not this again!'

There have been a lot of struggles in my waking life, throughout childhood to adulthood that can explain the nightmares though. My demon dreams could be symbolic and just represent personal problems. But I'm not sure, especially after waking up with strange marks at times.

I also used to wake up with sudden nosebleeds around this age at my house in another city. I would wake up and rub my nose lightly (not pick, I swear!) and blood would just start spewing out. I also remember waking up hearing a strange voice. I remember a weird word in my head one morning. It sounded like an old or foreign language spoken by a man with a deep voice.

...

Fast forward 6 years later and I am in my bedroom with my room mate JC. A lot of weird stuff happened there.

One night I remember waking up in the middle of the night to see a normal looking man in a jacket standing in my bedroom looking at my leopard gecko in his aquarium. I don't know who the hell this guy was or how he got there, but I didn't wake up enough to say anything. I just opened my eyes during the night, saw him, and then went right back to sleep. The next morning, JC said that the crickets in the tank were going balistic and that something felt weird that night.

A couple more things happened in this room but I'm not sure if this was the same night. Many times I would have bad dreams in this room. I would wake up trying to bang the wall with my hand as hard as I could and scream to wake everyone up. (I must have been very disturbed heheh). But one sudden early morning, after a forgotten nightmare it seems, I opened my eyes to see a big *spark* 'collect it's energues' and fly out my window. It seemed like it was a big light that condensed into a tiny yellow/white spark that then moved upwards towards the window and disappeared. I couldn't sleep the rest of the night, so I wrote a corny poem about fear that I don't feel like posting.

I also remember waking up to a strange sound in this room. I talked to my room mate about it and he said that he had woken up to hear exactly the same noise as I'd described. It felt like a whirlwind of energy. A loud obnoxious voice, or machine sound or something was right next to my ear. It was the most annoying thing. Like someone was shouting into my ear for a few seconds, getting progressively louder. It said "Abba abba abba abba abba abba abba" over and over but really fast. It really pissed me off. I thought maybe it was like my soul had gone to another dimension maybe and was sucked back to my body but I really don't know.

The sound reminded me of a Nirvana video I used to watch religiously. At one point there is Kurt (I think) saying "Abba abba abba abba abba!" That is exactly what me and my room mate heard, except faster, about 4 or 5 times the speed of Kurt. This section of the video always gave me the creeps and I had no idea why they put that in the DVD but after the strange experience it's even weirder.

He does it at 3:04:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19khRxysVlw&feature=relmfu

lycaeus

01-03-2013, 04:44 PM

lycaeus, I was referring to Dan Mitchell's comments about engaging in talk about demons and that just doing that may cause them to be around more... and I agree with that too. It's like they say, "out of mind, out of sight".

As for Dan's comments about ET's and not talking about them either, I was not referring to those statements... only about demons which are defined as fallen angels.

Gotcha. I have a few more stories I want to share though so it's a tricky business. I think the key is not to obsess and be scared.

I have noticed I have a peculiar interest bordering on obsession with the strange and abnormal ie: alien manipulation, demons, conspiracies. It's easy to think that getting deep into this stuff is bringing you to the truth but you have to be careful you're not wasting your energy and neglecting some more positive things in life.

lycaeus

01-03-2013, 04:47 PM

(Q: What is the empty white space I remember before I was born?)
the white space is probably an imagination of the afterlife, before being transferred to prison they put you in a holding cell.
you sit there and contemplate before you move into a body. a painful process
people are not treated nicely there, but as a criminal
after being reincarnated over and over again the employees there start to get very frustrated

Neuru:Interesting take on the afterlife.
Yeah it is! I wonder how many of us really choose to be here and how many of us are forced into this life by karma.

lycaeus

01-03-2013, 08:13 PM

Demonic Influence In Childhood?

Just remembered something I thought I should add here. I hope these posts aren't too random or confusing. The theme I'm going with seems to be something like 'personal experience as evidence of negative interference of the unknown'. It's empowering to discover that a lot of self-destructive thinking, feelings and actions may not be your own. You may not be as crazy as you think you are. My guess is that a lot of people experience forms of negative manipulation in their lives via demons and ET's and are not aware of it. We get carried away by impulses that do not stem from our Spirit, and by identifying with them we believe ourselves to be something worse than what we should be.

Before I forget about it, there was a little incident when I was about 7 or 8 years old. I was sitting in the living room wearing my cool new green, camo pyjamas. I found a razor-blade somewhere and for some reason thought it was a good idea to start cutting my pyjamas on my thighs. I felt unemotional about it, just absorbed in the interesting activity. I slowly began cutting the pyjamas leaving bloody marks across both of my legs. (Sry if that made you squeamish). There was probably a good 20-30 swipes made, slowly. I didn't think much of it, but thought there was something wrong with me so I lied about it.

Since then, I've never cut myself or done anything like that ever again. Had plenty of self-destructive thoughts esp. throughout teens but nothing that wild. I'm not a 'cutter' type person in case you're wondering...

My mom saw the cut marks on my PJ's soon enough, and I lied about it, saying they mysteriously appeared over night. I think I tried to hide the cut marks from her, so I'm not sure if she noticed the cuts. She didn't make an effort to look either. Being as whimsically 'airy' and aloof as she was, she believed my childishly confabulated story that a ghost must have done it at night. She would laugh about it on the phone telling other people about the creepy 'ghost' story. Years later I told her and my family the truth, because I couldn't keep lying about it and they didn't say much.

I figure if there is a demonic influence, it might want to spill blood. I hear they like blood, dirt and all that grossness and that blood makes it easier to manifest. I heard somewhere too, that a demon might manifest as a virus as in rabies and provoke the host to inflict bloody wounds on another. The blood apparently helps in some way but I'm not sure. The story stands out though, as I have never done anything else like that and can't imagine why on earth I would do such a thing.

Fore

01-03-2013, 08:59 PM

I figure if there is a demonic influence, it might want to spill blood. I hear they like blood, dirt and all that grossness and that blood makes it easier to manifest. I heard somewhere too, that a demon might manifest as a virus as in rabies and provoke the host to inflict bloody wounds on another. The blood apparently helps in some way but I'm not sure.[...]

I would say they can promote the [influence] processes behind a disease.

Just the same way "a healer" can promote good [influence] processes behind a mending process.

It goes both ways.

lycaeus

01-06-2013, 05:58 PM

I would say they can promote the [influence] processes behind a disease.
I'm guessing this would include mental disease, psychological or emotional illness as well.

I haven't gotten into reading the demonic encounters thread on here yet, but I want to ask if anyone can point me to some enlightening material. Maybe someone who has sifted through a lot of occult or fringe knowledge can recommend some of the better information out there. I would like to find some insightful information concerning the reality of demons, their origins and motivations, the mind games they play with people (how to spot them and escape the circle of drama), maybe some stories of victory over them, what attracts and repulses them, and maybe stuff about the effects of one's etheric and physical body and ways to heal, hopefully stuff with a positive and if possible humorous slant to it.

I don't want to obsess over them, but I think it's time I start taking this seriously. My recent demonic encounter has urged me to be more serious in connecting to God and staying on the straight and narrow.

...
I was listening to this song recently and thought it would be the perfect theme song for a demon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaM3p5tIbag

As a metal musician, I know how much fun it feels to play dark, demonic-sounding music. I know that releasing negative emotions is healthy, but I wonder where the line is drawn between healthy release of psychic darkness and strengthening that cycle of generating/accumulating negative energies and then enjoying the rush of releasing it. I wonder how demonic influences come into play here, especially with regards to music, as musical tones and vibrations are very powerful.

montalk

01-07-2013, 01:25 AM

Robert Bruce's older material (http://www.heartalchemy.net/Robert_Bruce_collected_works.pdf) (PDF) deals with demons to some extent. I learned just as much from Fore's threads, though. Like his My Experiences (http://montalk.net/fore.zip) (ZIP) thread at the old Open Minds Forum has more info on demons. My gf's book Chasing Phantoms (http://in2worlds.net/abductions) (HTML page to a PDF) has a positive and humorous slant to dealing with paranormal threats. There's also Dr William Baldwin's stuff on negative entity attachments - do a google search on "CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE POSSESSION KIND."

Logical and realistic writers are hard to find on the subject. Demonology books/websites tend to come at it from an overly occult, black magic, folklore, or religious angle. They are weighed down with rituals, superstitions, and dogma instead of pure reason, experience, and spiritual insight.

Those who are close enough to the demonic realm to study it tend to lose their positivity and humor, and sometimes sanity. They get a bit wild eyed, or irrational. That's why I'm suspicious of professional demonologists. My mom knew a couple at her church who specialized in demons, exorcism, and spiritual warfare... but guess what, they themselves were perpetrators of it and seemed to be demon-driven. I know another guy who calls himself a demon hunter, but he became increasingly unhinged and is not too different from a demon himself now.

Some people might not know they're dealing with demons. They might write a book about their experiences with torturous aliens or dead humans they invoked through a ouija board, or even government mind control, but little do they know theirs was actually some demonic charade. I now believe that demons can imitate aliens (to a limited extent) if it caters to the victim's belief systems. Not to say aliens aren't real, just that there is mimicry going on.

As a metal musician, I know how much fun it feels to play dark, demonic-sounding music. I know that releasing negative emotions is healthy, but I wonder where the line is drawn between healthy release of psychic darkness and strengthening that cycle of generating/accumulating negative energies and then enjoying the rush of releasing it. I wonder how demonic influences come into play here, especially with regards to music, as musical tones and vibrations are very powerful.

I had some thoughts about that in a written interview (http://intermediaterealm.blogspot.com/2012/12/neptunian-horizon-interview.html), in case you haven't seen it.

lycaeus

01-08-2013, 02:10 AM

Thanks Montalk. I know you've done your homework so it's great to have your recommendations. Chasing Phantoms was good. I'll definitely check out Baldwin's and Bruce's stuff. The last thing I wanted to do was type 'demons' into Google and get sucked into all kinds of superstition and irrational fear-based stuff from possibly unhinged people as it is a pretty touchy subject. I'd like to learn more about it because if I can visualize the enemy, like a demon, then it allows me to focus more on ridding myself of negative things that might allow a demon (or negative alien) to influence my life. And if the reality happens to be that these things are just fantasy, well then at least my belief in fighting these things makes me a better person, and therefore the belief is valuable because it works.

Interesting that you learned just as much from Fore. I wonder, how well-known is Fore? I've been reading his thread on here and it is the best, most detailed contact case I've seen. I'm pretty damn amazed by it all and any doubt I had regarding the reality of alien manipulation is definitely gone at this point. I can't wait to finish it and go on to the material from the older forum. His writing is having a good effect on my thought processes for sure.

I read your interview and I must say you have possibly the coolest perspectives on metal music. That was really fun and interesting to read.

@Fore, if you're reading this, I remember you mentioned that I may have 'undergone some entrancement procedures' evidenced by my strange OCD visualization habit. I was hoping you could elaborate more on what this possibly means. I've heard a lot of crazy things researching aliens and the paranormal so I find your perspective very enjoyable because you are so clear on everything.

I've been praying to God every day, as often as I can remember asking him to remove all negativity and evil from my life. I ask him to tell me what I must do to stay on the right path and I will do it. I'm still not sure of everything but I try to follow my intuition and reason as best as I can. I'm also resisting the OCD pentagon visualization every time I catch myself and visualize my breath washing away the pentagons/pentagrams. So I have faith it is helping me.

norenrad

01-08-2013, 05:31 AM

I ask him to tell me what I must do to stay on the right path and I will do it.

Ask Jesus into your heart, believe that he is your savior and the son of God... your inquisitive nature will do the rest.

lycaeus

01-08-2013, 05:09 PM

Ask Jesus into your heart, believe that he is your savior and the son of God... your inquisitive nature will do the rest.
I'll admit, most of the time when I hear something like that I'd make a sarcastic comment because I think that we are our own saviours and sons of god in our own way. I do believe that Jesus incarnated the 'christ consciousness', he was a manifestation of human-godhood, maximally realized human potential, a really advanced cool dude. His teachings are corrupted by the church (and somewhat by conspiracy researchers), twisted in various ways to manipulate people into a mentality of victimhood. However, praying to Jesus does have a good track record in helping people out and keeping negative entities (mysterious 'others') away. I even drift towards a Christian way of life myself. So I believe there are angels 'up there' ready to assist us, plenty of evidence for that, when we deserve it, though I prefer to pray to the big man, God.

I found something cool regarding Jesus in the Cassiopaean transcripts. I guess we should take their messages 'with a grain of salt' (no idea where that expression came from) just as we should with the messages from the prophets, because the prophets were, essentially, just channeling information no?

These channelings caught my interest regarding Jesus:

After Jesus left the Earth plane

Quote from: 960127

Q: (S) What about the prayers that are directed to Jesus?
A: Jesus is one of us in "special service" sector.
Q: (L) Like a "green beret?"
A: No, more like a "beige beret."
Q: (L) What is a 'beige beret?'
A: Just our term.
Q: (PZ) Well, I have just always wondered if this praying business is a bunch of malarkey. (L) Oh, no. (PZ) If I pray a rosary, I am praying to the Virgin Mary. Who is she? Where is she?
A: "She" is here too.
Q: (PZ) Does that prayer go directly to her and does she then send you out to do whatever?
A: She is not really a she. And when you write to "Ann Landers," does she really see it? And Good night.

Quote from: 950916

Q: (RC) […] Don't you have to pray in the name of Jesus for protection?
A: Prayers are not necessary for protection once channel, or more appropriately, conduit is properly grooved!

Quote from: 940930

Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the name of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, if he didn't die and release his spirit into the earth plane, how is this power conferred?
A: Prayers go to him.
Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers?
A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul development.
Q: (L) You said that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some sort of a decision, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying to him simultaneously?
A: Soul division.
Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular meiosis where a cell splits and replicates itself?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Jesus' soul divide?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many times does it divide?
A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.
Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or projected?
A: Is not a piece of a soul.
Q: (L) What is it?
A: It is a replication.
Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?
A: Yes. And no.
Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the original?
A: Not able to give individual attention.
Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so desire?
A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus: When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of reality, whereupon all "rules" regarding the awareness of time and space are entirely different from the way they are perceived here. At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum--as many times as needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper- consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.

Quote from: 940930

Q: (L) Is Jesus, in fact, in a state of suspension, voluntarily, in another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double dose?
A: Define.
Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated replications or additional strength, power or whatever?
A: No.
Q: (L) In other words, once one has truly made the connection, that's it?
A: That's all that's needed.
Q: (L) Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many souls are doing this work at the present time?
A: 12.
Q: (L) Can you name any of the others?
A: Bhudda. Moses. Shintanhilmoon. Nagaillikiga. Varying degrees; Jesus is the strongest currently.

Quote from: 980418

Q: So, you are saying that a man named Jesinavarah lived in Palestine at about that period, was a teacher, achieved Christhood, and was taken up into a UFO and is in another dimensional time warp doing some kind of work... is that the case?
A: Yes. Replicated consciousness.

Quote from: 941028

Q: (V) Is the Godspark the portion of the Creator that lives within us, the soul, so to speak?
A: Sounds good.
Q: (L) If the godspark is the soul within us, does anybody have godsparks times 2 or 3 or so on? That is more than others?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What type of person would have more Godspark than anybody else?
A: Jesus has Godsparks ad infinitum.
Q: (L) How does Jesus have Godsparks ad infinitum?
A: Soul replication for communication purposes.
Q: (L) So, every time we call upon Jesus, we are replenishing our Godspark?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Would you describe these soul replications as being more like a template or hologram?
A: Hologram.
Q: (L) And what is his connection to the Creator that enables him to do this soul replication?
A: Volunteered.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,1082.msg54081.html#msg54081

lycaeus

01-20-2013, 06:35 AM

Break Up Of Band And Strange Things

(I don't want to make this the story of my life, but I'm not a writer. I did try to condense the story as well as I could though.)

I first met JC on a high school victory lap. I was in a new town and had no friends or family so I was pretty eager to meet some people.
Our meeting was synchronistic because I somehow wound up in this town through no choices of my own and we both happened to be redoing grade 11 math. JC was an honor roller headed for university and I was in an enriched math program. We were both smart enough that we shouldn't have failed, but we did. I noticed him for some reason. So at the end of class I tapped him on the shoulder and said 'Hey man, do you play guitar?'. Surprised, he said yes.

We started hanging out and jamming in his basement. I met his band he had started and thought they were really cool. After seeing a show I wanted in because I knew I was better than the guitarist. Well a couple months later I needed a place to stay asap. JC let me move into the basement and about the same day of the move, the guitarist quit the band. Soon enough, I was in.

JC and I worked surprisingly well together. I checked our biorhythms and the secondary line for 'passion' was congruent for both of us, meaning our physical and emotional cycles in biorhythmic terminology were identical. This made for good cooperation in writing and rehearsing music.

JC had told me that he had never met anyone else like him as much as me, and I kind of agreed as well. We were best friends, basically brothers. I would come up with all kinds of riffs and he would turn it into a song with vocals in no time. We wrote a lot of material in the course of a year that unfortunately, we never had a chance to record. We did everything together and got along pretty well, at first.

One thing I should mention about JC is that he is an odd individual. Strangely inspired and driven to become like the next Leonardo Da Vinci or something. He was an awesome visual artist, musician, communicator and did abnormally well in school. I thought he was a 'walk-in' soul because he had a strange illness at the age of 8. The doctors said that it was the worst case of meningitis they had ever seen and expected him to die. But after a 2 week coma, he popped up with a smile and said 'I'm hungry!'... Doc then replied: 'Well let's get this boy some food!'

He told me that it was just after the coma that he began to get into music and art. He would also read science encyclopaedias during recess while other kids played tag. He said he has a lot of trouble remembering anything before the coma and had suspicions he may have been raped, though I doubt it. I thought being a walk-in soul as your strategy in life would be good because that way you can bypass the traumas and conditioning of childhood that most people are afflicted with their whole lives. He was a good communicator, musician and artist, and I wanted to bring to light the hidden nature of evil in the world. As a band, I guess we were priority targets to attack by forces who would rather keep us quiet.

We experienced poltergeist activity at our house. Doors would open, we would hear strange noises and see strange things. We woke up with weird marks. JC saw a dead man appear beside his bed covered in wounds, invisible to his girlfriend.

One night he woke me up. He slept on the couch in the basement near my bed because we were a bunch of girls afraid to sleep alone in the dark. He asked me if I heard 'that?'. I said no and he described how the wall was shaking, like it was being pounded by a giant. He was genuinely surprised because there was a bunch of stuff on the wall including a drum cymbal that was really loud to him, though I heard nothing. He also said he saw a foggy portal kind of thing, like a mist near the room's entrance. I saw some sort of mist or something but was unsure what it was. JC said that he saw a cat run in and disappear as well as a zombie child 'exactly like the kid in the movie The Grudge'. Glad I didn't see it, I inspected the entrance and found nothing. It took us a while to get to sleep.

Around this time JC told me of a dream he had where he talked to a strange being. Up until that point I did not talk about aliens or anything too strange on purpose, because it gives you a bad reputation sometimes, so this was new to hear this from him because he was never into that stuff like I was. He said that he communicated telepathically with a tall, white, human-looking man with sunglasses on. He remarked on how healthy he looked, that he had a tight jaw line. He was dressed in black, like an FBI agent. They talked about the mind and the reality of telepathy. He forgot a lot of the conversation though. The strange man said that he worked for some sort of government, like a high up, secret level, like the FBI but higher. He had one message for him and that was to 'pay attention to the words you put in your lyrics because this is used to further the agenda'. I got excited when I heard this dream because I thought it indicated we might reach a large audience.

Another night is when this interesting thing happened. JC woke me up because he had a bad dream. He said he was standing in the room, out of his body observing himself sleeping on the couch. He felt something strike his foot and said it felt like something evil and dark was trying to take over his body or soul and that this was a huge emergency of the utmost importance, that he had to get back into his body now! When he woke me up, we observed the bottom of his foot that was hurt during his 'dream' and there was a red mark of a small cut there!

Since that night, he had changed. I remember talking to my friend (Freyr online here) about it the next day. I said that something is different about JC and it is not good. I could tell that a change had happened and it was not a gradual change, but an overnight one. He had a darker tone to himself, and a semi-crazed look in his eye. I remember him singing Mozart next to me smiling and I was creeped out because it seemed so fake, though I didn't say anything. He never used to creep me out like that. I also noticed that he had 2 different coloured eyes that I didn't notice before. He assured me they were always like that but I never believed him.

One night I was about to shut down the old super nintendo when JC suddenly woke up and sat straight up. I told him I was tired and going to sleep. He kept bugging me to watch this old 80's VHS porno we found lying around somewhere. That really creeped me out, because he was very insistent on getting me to watch it with him. Though we didn't lol. The next morning though he said that he didn't remember. I repeatedly asked him many times since and I think he was sincere in that he had no recollection because he was anything but shy, actually obnoxious and very proud. He enjoyed shocking people and standing out. It might be chalked up to embarassment but this happened a few times.

A specific example of him forgetting something was when we were jamming, and JC randomly stopped to ask if I wanted to go to the store (convenience stores, my only weakness). I said no and later asked him why he'd asked but he really didn't remember.

One night I was sitting on the couch and he leaned his head on my lap and asked me to have sex with him. That was weird and I emphatically replied No. He asked me and my friend this several times. He was lucky we were not homophobic and take those things as an invitation to beat someone up.

lycaeus

01-20-2013, 06:36 AM

So yeah, the gayness turned up a huge notch since then. Before that, he was a shy, bisexual. After the weird event, he was having girls night watching sex and the city, talking about how weird men are. Soon enough he got really obsessed with fashion and wanted to get some sort of plastic surgery to become a model.

Our music took a turn for the worse. Our original sound was like a doomy Korn, System of A Down thing, but JC turned it into a poppy sell-out thing. He became obsessed with singing Lady Gaga. He got annoyed with my 'too many notes leads' and 'immature metal riffs'. I was not happy.

We had a big show coming up where there was a good chance to get signed. Guys from Puddle of Mudd and Disturbed were going to be there. Days before the show the drummer told the bass player JC was planning to kick him out, so he left and the band was finished. No show.

It was just the two of us now. We couldn't find new players we liked and our differences were growing stronger with JC's new style, even though everyone said they loved the old stuff, which I wanted to keep working on. We both became more and more depressed and dropped out of school. People informed me that JC started to hate me now. He attacked me a couple times out of the blue. One night he jumped on me when a friend tried to help us talk out our differences. I was decently intoxicated that night, though I conveyed my thoughts rationally and openly. JC kept his head down and gave us the silent treatment. He then suddenly jumped on top of me like he wanted to kill me! I tried to hold him back and not hit him. He mocked me for not taking him out but I said I didn't want to. The attack was honestly not deserved. If I deserved it I would admit it, I'm not that vain.

So soon enough I moved out. That was the end of that. My hopes were crushed and I had lost one of my best friends. It left an emotional scar. Funny thing is though, me and my friend (Freyr) had found out that JC wanted to wipe us both out of his life, erase the memories and ignore us from now on. Even though he said that we were his best friends he had ever had and we had a lot of good times. We heard he thought of us as a bad influence, though that is funny because one of his friends he still hangs out with is a huge druggie and drunk. We were never as bad as him. I sent some forgiving emails but never got a response. The sudden change was surprising.

My theory is that some sort of negative force, maybe a demon or alien intelligence or both probably, had interfered with our lives to break up a potentially good relationship that could have been beneficial for both of us.

Here's one of the old recordings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LFg2kI-aDw

lycaeus

01-20-2013, 06:50 AM

A strange thing happened today that I should write down. I tend to forget these things.

I made a phone call to someone. It rang and she picked up, we said hello and all that and the connection was clear and we could understand each other. But I noticed that as the first few words were being spoken, I heard a dark, grave, deep voice say the words 'What are you doing?' over top of our words as we were speaking. It was cellphone to cellphone so I doubt someone picked up a house phone to mess with us. Never heard something like that on a cellphone call before. It could be a crossed line, or maybe a spirit connecting through the signal or maybe I am scizophrenic. Hopefully this doesnt become a pattern.

I just finished Baldwins excellent book and have decided I am going to take spirit releasement therapy as soon as I can get the money together. It seems like a priority.

lycaeus

01-27-2013, 11:08 AM

I wanted to post a couple pictures of this mark I found on my hip today. It's a strange shape so I took notice. About as wide as the width of a pen. I think it might be an abduction mark. If I was working atm I wouldn't really notice since I'd be bumping into stuff all day, but I'm not. Been enjoying the winter off for a few months now and I don't get random bruises usually. I stay in and sit down most of the time and I don't remember hitting myself at all, and definitely not hard enough to leave a bruise. It's in a funny spot too that is almost impossible to get bruised because of the location. The hip bones get in the way. I tried backtracking my movements around my room trying to see how I might have hit it and I'm confused. I don't think I could reproduce that bruise on the other side of me if I wanted to. I'm not sure how long it's been there because I don't check for this stuff, but it couldn't be that long, I noticed it immediately when taking a shower.

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Fore

01-27-2013, 12:24 PM

Anyone recognize the marks? Looks triangular.

Edit: By the way, did you break the connections (lines of associations) like I told *** to do when reading that thread?

lycaeus

01-28-2013, 01:44 AM

By the way, did you break the connections (lines of associations) like I told *** to do when reading that thread?

Not sure what the intent of the question is, if it is directed to me, or others or everyone. I was going to answer but I think I should at least know what the question meant.

I at first thought it had something to do with breaking a line of association to me to avoid the situation of an entity that might be attached to me connect to others through this forum. (self-centred thought, yes)

Then I thought it might be referring to attempting to build a relationship to God and break ties to any negative entities and negative behaviour.

Still not sure though.

pontificator

01-28-2013, 01:57 AM

Spacing is correct, but the discolouration does not suggest he was abducted by anything that worked on me [or at least his abductors are using very primitive medical techniques, or there are different effects depending on the area the procedure is performed upon.]

In my case the triangular spacing was present, but the holes that were present looked like the skin had been cored down to a depth of about 2/3mm+ with the surface of the skin being present at the bottom of the hole [looking like a belly button at the bottom of each hole in terms of effect.] It took less than 24 hours for the bottom of each hole to reach the top, and the end result was that it looked like nothing had ever been there [well, there was some bleeding above one hole, but that was due to the presence of a hair follicle which made the regrowth procedure proceed slightly less smoothly.] The location of the mark was the middle front thigh area.

I was logically prevented from taking a picture [every time I thought of getting the camera I was compelled not to, and had all sorts of quite plausible reasons why each time, which is what happens if something is actively manipulating you.]

A few quick tests you can use to confirm "active interest" from a third party:
1) Think about getting a camera, and take note of why not if you find that you don't want to [try and force yourself to do so, its actually quite fascinating when it happens; and no, you'll probably not win.]
2) Press the area, you'll set off a tone in one of your ears every time [I did this with my upper shoulder once, after something had been done a long time ago.]

Lycaeus, how much distance would you say there was between the bone and that area of skin? Could be bounce-back from an area of damaged bone during the procedure.

lycaeus

01-28-2013, 02:54 AM

I was logically prevented from taking a picture [every time I thought of getting the camera I was compelled not to, and had all sorts of quite plausible reasons why each time, which is what happens if something is actively manipulating you.]

I have a slight phobia of cameras. I couldn't even give my grandma more than one quick shot during the holidays. My thinking is that 'they are a superficial part of a superficial life'. I never take pictures because I think it is more pure somehow to save the memories in your mind. These thoughts are mostly subconscious I think. I basically never ever consider 'wasting' my money on a "superficial" camera.

It was actually a miracle that I got the pictures on here. It took several hours. The pictures disappeared from the phone's registry for a couple minutes, then went back on after I uninstalled and reinstalled the cell's software because it wasn't working at first (first timethat happened). It wouldn't send the pics to my email either, and that usually works. And I will admit I was very reluctant to post pictures of my body on the 'net for some reason even though it's not revealing anything, strangely enough.

Though now that you mention it, I will try and get my webcam working. The software simply never worked for some strange reason. I have a cheap camera phone though so that will do for now. I'm also going to get a new bulb for my blacklight. I suggest all abductees get a blacklight. The fluorescent marks fade within a few days and you wouldn't even know without one.

I got into a light meditative state for 5 minutes or so and tried to distinguish an ear tone when pressing and not pressing the mark. Got nothing. Though, I might not be too sensitive to sound as I am used to being around gas machines, trucks, radio, stereo, headphones and amplifiers almost all of the time. I don't get as many ear ringings as I used to in my teens, but I notice faint ones, randomly, in my rare quiet times. Especially when going to sleep.

Lycaeus, how much distance would you say there was between the bone and that area of skin? Could be bounce-back from an area of damaged bone during the procedure.
If I stand up and bend to the left side (side of mark) like how I was when the pics were taken, or even lie down or stand up straight, then I can push as hard as I want and only feel muscle tissue and no bone, just the hip muscle you feel when you bend to the side. But I would guess in that case maybe 2-5cm? Though, if I bend as far as I can to the right, then it just barely makes it to that hip bone that is right at the skin.

Like I said, I can't reproduce this mark on my other side unless I had a stick with 3 points and jabbed myself. It looks very odd. There is nothing but clear skin all over the area, and no other bruises on my body. The 3 dots look perfectly symmetrical in the mirror. I've been reading Fore's old thread lately so I think I might be learning too much and received a visit? It was also weird to notice that a couple days or so after reading Fore's advice about demons, and decided to constantly strive to improve my moral and ethical behaviour and thoughts, that I saw a phantom in my room.

Fore

01-28-2013, 03:11 AM

Not sure what the intent of the question is, if it is directed to me, or others or everyone. I was going to answer but I think I should at least know what the question meant.

People over the years have commented that they get visitations or other strange artifacts in their life when they go reading through my threads. It often makes them uncomfortable and they want to keep away from reading it as it causes strange circumstances.

I used to tell people that they build psychic connections to the people (passively and actively) that read through the thread.

I was just asking if you continued to read through my old and new thread without breaking those connections. Mainly so that you don't focus on who it is I am describing (mainly ET and at other times the paranormal types of Entities).

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People also get visitations (as in, in person) when they delve right into some of the topics I touched on. The majority though only get prodded psychically from time to time from what they describe as an unknown presence that they feel (either externally or internally) but can't see. Usually describing it as either an unseen presence that affects them or makes them aware that they are being watched.

In a handful of cases some see physical encounters with unknowns. One in particular made a reference about topics on the forum and discouraged the notions of asking and prodding. Their son was affected if I still recall correctly.

Another member got visited and the target of the interest was seemingly her young son. I heard of it the next morning from some stranger (ET) mentioning the incident with comments that the woman didn't understand what they were. Not surprisingly, the woman shortly thereafter came on the forum and accused me of setting something up.

I didn't do any of that, but like all things if you connect to the sources psychically (even unconsciously) you'll get investigated. Either superficially or in person.

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So I have told people not to read without realizing that they may unconsciously (passively) form psychic bonds by reading the references I wrote of the ET. Like an unconscious targeting that happens through psychic means.

The active part comes from people commenting on the threads and doing feedback. (Which is often the case)

Even if they (the reader) aren't aware of it, the ET will inspect them as they watch the ebb and flow of the conversations and if they find something worthwhile they act on it.

The ET also talk to other ET that aren't related to the immediate monitoring and the word spreads sometimes. Strangers get involved. As well as other ET groups who seem to be linked to the reader in some way also watch how it affects situations and they also have a hand in the mix.

I recall dozens of times where complete strangers (ET) come around and told me to stop writing. Seemed alot of ET have some issues with openness. Even the ones you'd think wouldn't.

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Anyway, it is a possibility since I recall you said you were reading through those threads.

It may be unrelated to me. If so, then you ought to figure out what happened and where it came from.

I at first thought it had something to do with breaking a line of association to me to avoid the situation of an entity that might be attached to me connect to others through this forum. (self-centred thought, yes)

Yeah, that is basically it.

In some of the far eastern cultures they think of lines of associations as invisible strings that build up as you meet people. Kinda sorta accurate...sort of.

Now that you have the idea you should practice it. Spirituals and ET use some of the same principles but in very different ways and with different techniques.

If you learn how to break those bonds then it should be easy for you to disappear from some entities observant awareness. In other words unless they are immediately present, you'll disappear from their proverbial "Radar".

Then I thought it might be referring to attempting to build a relationship to God and break ties to any negative entities and negative behaviour.

Still not sure though.That also helps. (IMO)

Fore

01-28-2013, 03:21 AM

lycaeus

01-28-2013, 03:55 AM

Hmmm, well I have read all of the new thread here and have read half of the 2007 year of the old thread. I might have missed or forgotten some things but I remember the talks and warnings about lines of associations, and the dangers we are unconscious of somewhere. I keep this in mind. I'm not exactly sure how to not form unconscious lines of association with someone I am reading about on the forums. I do make a conscious effort not to try and visualize the writers, though it's difficult because some people are really interesting. I definitely don't want to pass along any attachment I have. I wish everyone the best. I've been praying in my mind at least a few times every day to God for protection, guidance and remove any evil or dark presences in my life. I think I will now include anyone else who is connected to me in any way to those prayers just to be sure. And maybe get over the reluctance to pray out loud with real words. That might have a stronger effect. I've been pretty clear about it though in my personal writings. Actually, the night that I think this mark appeared, I was reading the old thread for several hours thoughout the day and into the evening. Before I went to bed I started my personal rambling and put a message of intent in all caps letters as a clear prayer to God. I was also overwhelmingly depressed for no reason (not sure if this was before or after the mark). I made it clear that I do not give persmission for anything to interfere with my life, very clear and specific. I also attempt to not think about aliens and demons too much and give them too much power, Yet, I wake up with an anomalous mark.

I usually play Beethoven and Mozart quietly all night, and leave music playing throughout the day even when I'm not home (for my cat to enjoy too). Hopefully that helps to build up good, lively energy that makes it difficult for unwanted guests to appear. I love water, and plan on getting a fountain for the room as well as incense too. I've also heard that spirits don't like red lights and I keep at least some lights on 24/7 throughout the entire house as well.

It's funny, my cat acted so strange a few days ago. He suddenly woke up out of sleep beside me and meowed loudly, over and over. He gnawed on my shoulder and looked me directly in the eyes and continued to shout his meows at me. He wasn't himself at all. This went on for a good 20 minutes after I pushed him off the bed while trying to hump me. I would understand if other cats were around, or if it was during the day, but we were both ressting silently on the bed. Then he suddenly shot up and acted crazy out of the blue.

I'm not sure exactly how to break ties to ETs and nonphysicals but the intent is definitely there. It's hard to do because I can't ignore the alien and paranormal phenomenon. Something in me drives me to understand things, to know things. If forces are working behind the scenes to negatively impact people, and you have personal evidence that supports this, then the right thing to do is to honestly seek the reality of things to solve the problem. I believe a lot but aren't certain of too much. Also feels like I have unconscious trauma that isn't explained in normal life. It's obvious when you compare me and my twin brother who grew up with me every single day together for 17 years.

lycaeus

01-28-2013, 04:18 AM

@ ly

A cautionary note:

Do not be too surprised if you see a visitor appear in front of a member of the forum. Then suddenly that member starts behaving [unusually] and very much in line with an ET agenda to clean up the situations surrounding my writings.

People have lots of mental and emotional content inside them. Augmenting one line of reasoning to better their agenda is as easy on some as writing on a piece of paper.

The main giveaway is when a utilized proxy person is pushed and shoved mentally. The proxy always becomes irrational and unbalanced.

As a psychic you can pretty easily tell when a person is being affected. It is much harder for a community of non-psychics to notice it though. The apparent signs have to be alot more obvious in nature.

Watch out for the irrational behavior in the proxy as it gives it away.

There is a big difference between someone who disagrees and someone who is being manipulated.

I know what you mean. Actually, I was reluctant in talking to you on your thread because you posted about your weariness to interact with individuals who have negative attachments. Well I want to make it clear that those kinds of beings can either go back to hell, or better yet the light, but at least away from me and anyone I connect with.

I sincerely want to live a good, conscious life. That's why I don't think anything occult is simply cool because it's dark and mysterious, and has cool symbols and sayings involved, with promises of power. Anything occult, or any object that you give an occultic power to supposedly attracts things, even if your conscious intention is to use that object as a deterrent or for good will... I know our unconscious minds can makes us appear as hypocrites and you might feel justified in doing something that is wrong, like attacking someone for no good reason. I've observed myself being a hypocrite unfortunately many times. I'm not that smart, but I have a good intuition when I am sober. Which thankfully I have been for these past couple months since breaking free from negative people and environments. I notice when people act strange in real life as well as in internetworld. I get intuitive impressions that tend to be right most of the time. Though I made a huge mistake with interacting with a certain contactee which is the next thing I want to write about. Basically, I wan't looking at myself and the world objectively because I wasn't sober at all, and I believed he was a good influence. Well, intentions mean very little when the effects of actions leave negative impressions.

lycaeus

01-28-2013, 05:42 AM

Oh yeah another thing about the mark.

Just remembered that the night I think this appeared that I was supposed to work but didn't for some strange reason. It was snowing and I was ready to go, waiting for a call to go out but didn't get one. I would have been out shoveling/salting all night. I called a co worker and he said mostly everyone was there and ready to go. I talked to my boss and said I'm ready but he said he would call me back. My usual ride was out of town supposedly, though I could have easily taken the bus and been there in 30 minutes if I had gotten a call. Boss said he'll try to get me picked up. A co worker said he was on his way, then called back and said he couldn't make it. It's strange because on their routes they drive right by my house. I'm usually one of the first guys that gets called when it snows too. And I know that it is easier on everyone the more guys we have working, so on that night where there were 2 others who couldn't make it, you'd think they would want me to help like usual. :confused: It almost seems like a set up.

lycaeus

01-28-2013, 12:54 PM

I thought this was important and related to this thread so I'm reposting it. It's deep in the What We Think We Know So Far thread, so it's easy to miss.

Post #709:

Note: This post was made on August 30th 2012. I delayed it until I could look it over and complete it.

@ All

Been having some issues with a (Spiritual) Phantom. Since the begining of the month when I heard the ear ringing. Seems the phantom is trying to leave markers on me as well as scare us (the family).

I have been praying to God everytime it intrudes and tries to take up residence. It has been repelled several times.

A few interesting and noteworthy insights in the last month:

A) The nearly invisible spectrum of influence that Higher Order Entities have is not so invisible. Its not a case of background masking techniques or anything. It seems that the spectrum I can easily pick up is the spectrum that negative entities generally possess. (as well as nomal spirituals)

So it seems they (Higher Orders, God) use a spectrum of influence that my abilities aren't [by default] adjusted to detect it.

So it appears I have (and that is perfectly normal in psychics) a wide swath of spectrum that my abilities don't sense any activity in, despite there being activity present. This is expected but I can finally confirm this is positively true.

B) I have learned why members like ScaRz and Etherian [God rest his soul] are/were not "perturbed" by the influence of Demonic presences as much as me.

I have an attitude wherein I assign more fear and power to the [Negative] Phantoms, Ghosts and Demons than they deserve.

My attitude has always been one of worry and fear of some sort of reprisal. I sense that God has stepped into the circle in my family and has helped each of us come to terms with the malevolent intrusions being a former fact of life.

Throughout our history, they have prohibited a normal life and have exerted control over the quality of our life. As a result, every bad experience has taught us (the family and I) that we somehow won't escape them. That somehow they should be feared through their control.

In other words, it is like walking through life worried about interference, and through that worry assuming that (as has been the experience) we will always be under their thumb.

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God has taught me, that as I turn to Him, I have nothing to fear from these spiritual entities. They are under His controlling thumb (proverbially speaking). That I don't have to go through life preparing for the worst outcomes if I accept God into my life and He in turn takes care of the spiritual problem.

I have been so worried that as someone in my family realized, we give the negative spirituals more power than they deserve. Even if they can harm us, they are subject to someone even higher than them.

Several nights ago, this was proven to be the case, I sensed someone coming near while I laid down to sleep for the night. The presence approached from my back, and even with my abilities almost turned off completely I could sense it. It tried to touch me to leave a marker but I began to pray and it left within a few minutes.

The next night I was in the front room of the house where this computer is located, I saw one of my family members startled and they asked me to come with them. They said they heard (through their ears) something invisible growl or hiss at them followed by a sudden sensation of intense coldness.

I walked with them to the kitchen and noticed the spot where the entity discharged its influence in the environment. The air was still cold in a column of air about the width of a human body and the height of more than 7ft+.

I asked them questions as I inspected the area with what limited ESP I have left and noticed it was still nearby. We prayed, and it left for about an hour, then came back.

We had not stood up to it as much we should have.

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Two nights ago, the entity came again and was leaving behind traces of it's influence in the environment. I clearly noted it was a phantom because of it's underlying signatures. A male Entity.

It scared one of my family members again. We prayed and again it was temporarily repelled. Though I was trying not to be fearful.

I was washing plates in the kitchen when no one was with me and it again tried to touch me. Then it did it's little trick of creating a cold spot just around my body. It was trying to use intimidation tactics and all that.

I got frustrated and told it in the name of the Lord to move away from me. It seemed to be resisting. I reported the event to the other family member and then sat down at the computer. Frustrated to think that somehow this bugger had penetrated the protection we had.

After a few minutes I told the other family member to get up and come with me. That we always make the same mistake of backing down and letting "them" set up residence and we don't provide enough interference to their activites as we should. I told them that if God has defninitve power over them, then we have nothing to fear in confronting them.

So we did just that, we walked right towards where it was and began praying. It seemed to flee but kept coming back. So we prayed longer and prayed in almost all of the rooms of the house. Even though it kept coming in at the other far end of the house as soon as we were at the other end of the house. We kept at it. After some minutes of praying the invisible force that seems to emanate from the Angels and the "Holy Ghost" seemed to form around us.

I noticed that if we went where it was at the far end after having prayed, it seemed to be "pushed out" as if an enveloping protection had surrounded us. That was more mysterious than anything else.

I wondered if the people like ScaRz and Etherian had this sort of ongoing protection and that is why they didn't seem to fear the malevolent spirituals. I have to say it felt very good to call out to God to protect us. The next day the presence did not return again and we had more peace of mind than previous times.

It is a very nice feeling to depend on someone like God whom can crack a proverbial whip and get these presences at a distance.

With Him at the ready, it seems that actual fear is a thing of the past.

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I just wanted to share that since this is how I handle the spirituals these days. I don't talk to them or communicate even if approached. The same is true of the ET, I avoid contact. That is the advice the Higher Order beings [Angels] gave and that is what/why I have followed through with it.

I also don't use my abilities, except very sparingly. I expect that even these residual behaviors of wanting to depend on my abilities at all will fade with time.

Side Note: As the Higher Order beings are always reminding me, I am to thank God for the blessings and good fortune, not them. They have told me several times that I should not think they produce any of it as they are simply doing what God tells/orders them to do. That He is "the source" of all their "doings" and efforts. They told me if I give thanks I should give it to Him because He is the cause [driving force] of it.

Last edited by Fore; 09-01-2012 at 03:43 AM.

lycaeus

01-28-2013, 01:22 PM

It's the middle of the night and my 2 room mates and I were talking in the living room. I suggested that we keep the lamp on in the living room at night because I learned that the light energy, as well as things like music, positive human activity/speaking, running water, incense, etc.. help to imprint a good energy vibe in the room. This makes it harder for negative spirits to manifest.

One room mate thought it was a good idea and agreed with me :D. We have free hydro and it doesn't hurt the wealthy landlord (and I don't feel guilty for enjoying electricity unlike some environmentalists). All 3 of us have experienced paranormal stuff in our lives, and especially since I moved in it seems. So it is a good, practical and positive action.

But the other room mate quickly disagrees. Her argument made no sense whatsoever so I began a long winded explanation. I asked her why she minded the lamp or lights on at night and her explanation was simply that she 'has a thing against it'. She was concerned that the light might travel down the hallway, somehow bend around, go up the stairs, twist and turn a few times and creep in under her closed door (I'm not lying here). I said that makes no rational sense whatsoever, and coming from a person that says they feel bad energies and see ghosts in the house, it's actually kind of crazy. She actually told me stories about her young child being completely possessed, as well as her fighting an invisible spirit that grabbed her arms.

I explained that our actions are a living affirmation of our intent. If we have a problem and have become aware of knowledge that should help then we should act on it to show God/the universe that this is our intention (to not interact with spirits and make it difficult for them to interfere in our lives). If we don't act on it, then this reveals that we don't care, and the universe will reflect our attitude accordingly. (I think it makes sense...)

Well she got pretty angry at me and I could feel her hostility. She said I shouldn't care because I sleep downstairs. I asked her why it bothers her and she 'just always has had a thing about it...'. Well I said that there have been too many weird things here in a short time, so I am keeping the lamp on and there is no reason for her to be bothered. I got ticked off a little and said that part of being a mature adult involves changing and adapting your thinking to whatever is appropriate. That made her angry :mad:, I could tell.

I was confused why she was so irrational and disagreeable. My guess is that she has attachments, which I think all 3 of us do to a certain extent for various reasons. Someone like her who plays solitaire for 7 hours plus every day (zero exaggeration) is not 'all there' or very aware of themself. That makes it easier for nonphysical life to attach and influence a person. It makes no sense why someone with bad experiences with nonphysical negative entities would not make an effort, or at the least not discourage me from making an effort that doesn't affect them, as I suggested unless something was influencing them,. Most likely something negative that would like to make situations easier for it.

Fore

01-28-2013, 03:02 PM

lycaeus

01-31-2013, 10:33 PM

One little thing that happened 2 nights ago I might as well add here. ..

I only remember a tiny bit of this dream where I was posting something on this forum and I felt a bad presence. I don't know what I was about to post. But I started to feel my body sleeping in my bed and thought that there was a being in my room, maybe an alien or demon. I was scared and wanted to wake up, and as the fear was creeping over me I heard a woman's voice say "Wake Up!" It wasn't a yell, or angry, but it was very clear, demanding and authoritative.. I liked her, whoever she was, just by hearing her voice she sounded very nice. Maybe it was a guardian angel? It felt like in the dream, I started to sense my body, and then felt my body and woke up once I heard those words. I put as much energy as I possibly could into waking up and it worked. Of course this could all be in my mind, based on that I read and think about these things so god knows.

...
I noticed a weird thing today. The blacklight bulb I just bought doesn't work! It worked yesterday, though when I tried it today I got nothing. The outlets in the bathroom where I put it work with other things, but not the bulb. So I tried another room and it works for some strange reason. I got it so we check for fluorescent marks. It's a CFL which I'm using until the safer LED UV blacklight strip from ebay comes in.

Fore

01-31-2013, 11:20 PM

lycaeus

02-01-2013, 04:56 AM

Be careful not to look at the light from the bulb. You should have bought a pair of eye-wear protectors that block out the UV spectrum.

By the way, you are an interesting and progressive guy with what you plan to do. Let us all know what the results are.

Been reading up on the dangers of UV rays. Definitely going to keep the blacklight exposure to a minimum. It only takes a second to check yourself. I've found weird fluorescent marks on me before, that's why I'm doing it. I used a blacklight in the past for a nightlight and kept it on all night and was planning to do it again, but now I've learned better and ain't doing that again! Thanks I will definitely let everyone know if I find anything. The marks fade in a couple days, so you can be marked and not even know it unless you have a blacklight (LED is best).

On Eve Lorgen's site, I read an abductee account of a woman with fluorescent marks. They were like spill marks on her foot and during the encounter experience she remembered something falling on her foot. This hints that the fluorescence might be a liquid. Another case involves a guy rubbing his hand and then he watched the fluorescence spread beneath his skin. Another asked an alien and was told that the marks are a hierarchical rating identifier of some sort. Would they *cough* lie?... I dont know though. What if it is something pumped into you? The little circle with 2 squares on my leg I found looked like it could be a sort of 'plug' mark, like a wall's electrical outlet.

montalk

02-01-2013, 06:16 AM

Black lights come in different wavelengths, and the lower the wavelength, the more visible the fluorescent substance against the non-fluorescent background. Otherwise the whole area is bathed in blue/purple light and it's hard to make out what you want to see. Like pet urine in carpet are best seen with black lights 385 nanometers and below. There are UV LED flashlights in the 360 to 385 range used for that purpose, for scorpion hunting and other tasks. So, if whatever light you use doesn't seem to work well enough, a lower wavelength may give more clarity. Although the lower the wavelength, the greater the risk of DNA damage, so definitely keep the exposure short. Check out this article (http://www.viewzone.com/dnax.html) about biophotons in the 380 nm range, pretty fascinating.

I seriously wonder though whether real aliens would use fluorescent markers. Maybe they do, but fluorescent dyes just sounds like something military abductors would use. Because humans = not psychic = need to use physical eyes -> try to be secretive -> use invisible ink that glows under UV light. Whereas aliens could use psychic markers or some nonphysical implant for that task.

On the other hand, I've heard a couple instances where a glowing fluid was involved in abduction and mind control procedures. Glowing like the liquid inside glow sticks. My guess is that the light emitted by this substance meddles with the physical-etheric interface of the human body/DNA/neurons, via some advanced pharmacology that is decades if not centuries ahead of modern medicine.

lycaeus

02-22-2013, 09:06 AM

Cool article. I listened to this long interview with Eve Lorgen (http://www.superwooradio.com.au/podcasts) and in it she mentions that the fluorescent substance is used to loosen the connection between the physical and non physical bodies. Something to do with transplanting the soul into another body for whatever reason, like in Simon Parkes' case where he takes on a Mantis' body to do work on a space ship, like in the movie Avatar. I wonder how such a process would affect your health. I read somewhere that abductees have a noticeably higher rate of chronic fatigue syndrome, like myself, even though I've always eaten well and been more than active. Maybe having your soul extracted, or the process of certain abductions is really bad for your health. People report radiation illnesses. Maybe it's a factor in premature balding? It's something that bugs me because I am 22 and it started to thin when I was about 18. Now I just shave it nice and clean. But my twin brother has a thick head (of hair... lol) and he wore hats as much as me and we had identical lifestyles. Though he is very normal, not into the fringe and not a high target of abduction I'd bet. My friend is 21 and losing it too, and he has indications of abductions for sure...

Eve also mentions Corrado's work about there being an energetic attachment thing going on as well with abductions. That reminds me of Fore's ideas about ET putting a piece of their 'Influence' into an abductee's system, like an etheric implant. Makes sense because I probably have a demonic attachment of some sort, unfortunately. Though I was checking out this therapist (http://www.somasouldynamics.com/practice/about.html) for spiritual release therapy. It looks promising.

There's one thing I want to mention about this too. When I think of fluorescent marks, cloning and being taken into another body, it reminds me of dreams where I am in another body! I don't have clear memories, but I know I have had at least a few dreams where I see my reflection in another body. It looks exactly like me, except I feel like I am more in shape, happier, more excited. I am doing things with people. Ordinary stuff, no monsters or fantasy lands in the dreams, just me going around doing stuff with people in a normal, busy environment. I think I feel good because I am showing people things, like explaining things to them, like I have a decent job. I remember looking into some glass or a mirror on more than one occasion and seeing my face. It is me alright, but I look less tired, leaner and have shoulder-length whitish/blond hair. In the dream I accept it as normal, then when I wake up I remember that I don't have hair...

I was hesitating whether or not to write that ^^^^ but I figured I might as well put it out there. The dream could easily be my desire to have a good head of hair and a good job. I thought 'maybe I just want to confabulate an interesting story for people to read on the 'net so I feel better about myself. Maybe they'll think I'm cool and have a double life or something'... But I mentioned it because it's a possibility. And when we're dealing with mind control then we aren't likely to get the full picture. We just have fragments here and there, so when in doubt, write it out. I actually feel a lot better about myself since I joined this forum, when I doubted my sanity about my UFO beliefs. But after writing out a few things, I feel sane and okay looking into these things, talking about them and contemplating. I realized I've quite a few strange things happening in my life. The marks I've found on my body, especially the scoop mark, make me extremely angry. I think the reason I've been so drawn to the alien/abduction subject is because my subconscious mind knows what's going on. It's not blind escapism or an intoxicated romance with the strange.

I wouldn't doubt that I have had abductions from humans most likely in the military. Around the time when I had the blacklight fixed in my room and found the circle-with-2-squares fluorescent mark, I woke up to see a man observing my gecko in his tank. I wrote about it somewhere in this thread. I woke up in the middle of the night, glimpsed him there, then fell back asleep. He was white, had a black baseball cap (I think, tho might not have), a black jacket and black pants. It was like a 'jock's jacket'. He had his hands in the pockets and emanated a 'business-as-usual', rational, manly, straightforward (jerk) attitude.

Another thing that make me think MILABS in my case are my numerous dreams of going underground. Lots of stuff about riding a rollercoaster going underground through tunnels, with pipes, little light, seeing weird people in a 'jail-like setting' (the dreams are trippy/hard to explain). They might be unconscious remnants of abduction memories. I posted an interesting one here (http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?901-A-Few-Synchronicities-Lately&highlight=synchronicities) about being underground. **the 'owl' mentioned, as now confirmed by my friend that saw it, had no feathers, was leathery, did NOT flap (just glided), and was HUGE and silent...

...
Another indicator of me being abducted are the times when I was around 16 while I was just getting right into conspiracies and alien stuff. Every night I had the chance I would bike around town in the middle of the night. Around 2-5am usually, I would bike in the middle of the streets with no traffic. It was fun and peaceful. I loved the night and loved to bike by myself. But I can't help but wonder if I was unconsciously going to meet with some abductors.

I've also read that it is common for abductees to have specific kinds of programming. In my case, I have been fanatical and oddly obsessed with New Age, Environmentalism and Survivalism to the point that it had a negative impact on my life. I would have an obsessed look in my eye and talk on and on about those three things whenever I got the chance. The unfounded fanaticism of those beliefs is what grabs my attention here so I think that is suspect.

I have 3 more things I want to write about here when I get around to it:
~my online chatting with an alleged contactee who had a terrible influence on me
~2 little love bite scenarios
and
~being adopted by an interesting guy who I think is either a hybrid or, has more alien DNA than the average Joe and/or has a powerful and negative attachment of some sort

If anyone has any thoughts or opinions about anything I write, like maybe I'm missing something or whatever, feel free to blurt out the first thing that comes to mind. It might help me put things together.

lycaeus

02-22-2013, 09:18 AM

Observing my weird chest, I soon found that I was laying in bed on my back. A tall black figure appeared at the end of my bed. I couldn't see his face. It looked like he was wearing a robe or cloak. My first impression was that this was an old friend from high school I used to smoke weed with every day (I don't do this anymore though). But I knew it wasn't, it was nothing but pure evil.

He spoke to me telepathically (I think). There was probably a bit more that he said but all I remember is him saying "Okay B*** (my name)here's the deal. I'm going to go and lie down with your mom". My mom lives in another town so I wasn't too worried. Figure he was just trying to piss me off.

I tried really hard to lift my arm and give him the finger but I was paralyzed. All I wanted to do was jump up and beat the hell out of him but I couldn't. He disappeared, then at 4 17am I got up and wrote down what I could remember.

(...I was half asleep when I wrote that and I forgot to mention that this entity was extremely muscular. Big round shoulders, big chest and big abs. His hands were either clasped in front of his stomach, or his arms were crossed, though it was really dark and his hands may have been at his sides but I doubt it.)

lycaeus

02-24-2013, 11:12 PM

I first met Eeyore (my own nickname) online when I was 15/16 on a new age forum. I was going the other direction of the new agers more often than not by posting about conspiracies, so I guess I stood out a bit. Enough for Eeyore to notice me and reach out. He said that he might have the answers I'm looking for and that he could teach me. So we added each other on MSN and would chat for hours at times. I didn't save most of the convos unfortunately, and the few I did were lost when my brother sold my computer with all my files without telling me. But I do have a few recent copies.

Well he was irritatingly slow to talk to and always was. Our first conversations involved him trying to intrigue me and secure my fascination with him. He was about 23/24 at the time. He kept throwing me hints at his secret knowledge and put on this appearance of authority. Like how his display pic was of the grim reaper: when asked he said he 'was like the grim reaper' because he 'guides souls across to the new world'. I at first thought that he helped people with the dying process in an out-of-body state but I eventually found out (through my own deductive reasoning) that he must be referring to physical guidance. His job is to guide people in the future though 'the chaos' (in which he thrives) through to the new world, 'where people are very weary of each other'.

I started talking about the stuff I was reading about hyperdimensional manipulation by aliens, and he told me specifically 'to not talk about things which you know nothing of'. He immediately insisted that my mind was scattered and I was already off-track and delusional. I was young and extremely naive and thought that everyone who is nice on the surface has pure, good, conscious intentions, so I immediately believed him to be a knowledgable authority. This false-belief was reinforced when he hinted at his 'help'.

He never said it directly, but what he meant was that he was a contactee. His contact he called 'Narin'. That was 7 years ago, and only months ago he told me that he is not even sure what his contact is, if Narin is actually real. Apparently Narin was from M45 (the Pleiades). I asked what the gender was and he said 'female, well that's the closest thing'. I expressed my confusion and he said 'you never thought that maybe there could be 7 or 12 genders?'. That thought intrigued me and I was more fascinated.

Eeyore said that there are certain VIP people that it is his job to guide to safety through the troubling times in the coming years. He said he has seen himself in the future and seen his death. The future is 'set in stone' according to him and human flesh will be the most common food source at the time of 'the big event'. This worried me so I made sure to make time to talk to him whenever I got the chance. He said that I might be one of the people who 'are meant to survive' the chaos. I wonder if his job is to take orders from his source, whatever it is, and to help certain individuals like abductees survive so they can continue to be used for whatever purpose. He's the one who first really stimulated my fanaticism with survivalism and I wonder now if that has something to do with me being an abductee.

There was a mention of superhuman people appearing out of the chaos to save people in a research note on montalk.net, but the note 'Looking Ahead 2010-2015' (think that was the one) appears to be edited since I first read it. I thought that connection was interesting in Eeyore's case.

Now this will sound crazy, but I felt that there was psychic manipulation going on when I was talking to him. Something pulled me into talking to him to the point where I would walk away from parties without saying anything to anyone, away from all my friends, to chat with this stranger. I don't think I blinked when chatting with him lol. I was tranced out waiting patiently on his retardedly slow responses, licking my lips and lapping it up. I was happy to be connected with someone who was connected with super advanced, cool, all-knowing space aliens and it made me feel special at the time. At one point, he said that 'Narin' 'was hurting him' because he's 'not sure if [he] should talk to me'. What positive being hurts people into doing as they're told? hmmm... He never was of much help throughout it all, but was actually a detriment, though he helped me to sharpen my discernment in the end. It took me a while to wake up from that spell.

It was Carissa Conti from in2worlds.net that pretty much woke me up to the bs that he was feeding me. You'd think I would email a prominent alien researcher like montalk or someone, but it was accidental. I emailed Carissa about something on her site and brought it up as a side note to the email, to ask if she knew anything about aliens training people to survive the upcoming chaos. So I sent her a few of our conversations and she was more than compassionate and sent me a really long email going through all the obvious points I shouldn't have missed that indicated something was wrong here. She was really helpful about it and I'm grateful for that. In my defense (I guess you could say) I was not very sober at all while talking to him last year, and wasn't thinking clearly. It was a bad, lonely time and I wasn't seeing Eeyore for what he really was. It's obvious if you read the convos.

He said that he does dream training. Every night it seems, up until this day (if he is still alive). 'Narin' induces artificial dream scenarios, virtual realities in his mind, where he is in the future on earth, as well as at least one other world. I was instructed not to tell anyone anything he told me, but I don't care. In fact, I asked if I could talk about his situation on the openminds forum and he didn't like that. He told me that I better be killed before he is (I guess he thought he was more important). He was always trying to scare me about how 'if you stick your head above the crops, it WILL be cut off'. He would even tell suspicious stories about other people he taught, like me, who died in mysterious, suspicious circumstances.

I remember pointing at other contact cases on the OM forum for him to look at because he said he '[doesn't] read books because 99% are wrong'. I suggested he check out the Allies of Humanity material as well as Fore's old thread (around 2007 I think). I remember reading Fore's thread that year and loved it... until Eeyore told me not to read it. I only got through to page 20 or so I think. Eeyore looked at it for a few minutes and he told me that Fore was obviously a fake according to him and his source and that it was dangerous for me to read. I was puzzled, but I followed along. I wish I had stuck with it though. I was just too misled by this guy.

lycaeus

02-24-2013, 11:19 PM

'Eeyore: Operation Confuse and Mislead' continued...

Anyways, I thought that the dream simulation training was cool, so I asked him what kinds of scenarios he trained in. He didn't answer me at first, but did send me an email with the headline 'as requested'. I don't have that email saved though, because my old email account password mysteriously changed and I couldn't get back in to it. But I still remember the gist of it. It wasn't very detailed so I have most of the main points, but I may be a tiny bit off. (this might be a cool basis for a short film):

"Imagine you are inside making your homework. A loud explosion, a blast goes off as all the windows shatter and a piece of glass wounds your arm. You look outside and see mushroom clouds over the city. There is fire, people screaming, guns and explosions all around.

You walk outside and see your friend/family lying in the gutter, blood all over. In a panicked futility you shove their intestines back inside of them but it is of no use. You see military officers shooting people and ordering people around {{I think he said that, not 100%}}. So you hide in your basement.

The screaming and explosions go on for what seems like an eternity. You are too scared to leave the room even to pee. After 2 weeks, the noise has subsided and there is no more food in the house.

You wander outside and see your town in ruins. You walk around and everything is destroyed with rotting corpses lying around. You walk by an allyway where you see a couple guys slaughtering a dog for food. So you keep walking towards the mall in hope of food. When you get there, you see that everything has been looted. The cut in your arm is throbbing and you are starving.

As you walk, a mother with a child approaches. She wants you jacket to stay warm. You refuse and try to move on, but she keeps insisting and won't leave you alone. You need the jacket (in this world people kill you for your boots) and don't give it to her. So you smash her head and leave the child motherless. You keep on walking through the forest.

Suddenly a net is thrown over you and you are knocked out cold. You wake up in a cage with other prisoners. Off to the side you see and hear the screams of a young girl being raped. There is also a person being pushed into a fire in sacrifice to a god you've never heard of.

Fortunately, one of the prisoners manages to help a few of you escape and you are chased through the forests. One person stops and pulls out a gun. They shoot themself in the head. Someone else throws up everywhere and becomes overly sick."

That was most of it and all I remember right now. He said that you have to be very strong-willed to keep going like that. And you have to be careful with guns too, as the bullets run out quick. Whenever I asked him about tips on survival, and what are the specific scenarios to prepare for, all I really got was that I need to have a strong will, it's all you need... Which I agree with, but don't be a jerk and keep the details to yourself, especially when you pose as a helpful teacher. That frustrated me to no end. He said that pole shift was the worst scenario and don't expect any electricity as there are too many scenarios where the grid shuts down. He also said that he doesn't mind if everyone starves because that is one of the easiest scenarios for him to survive.

It's funny how a guy who claims that the future is set in stone, that he has seen and virtually trained in the future, is unsure of what the future is actually like. I asked a million times but he doesn't give specifics or explain much of anything.

There is also his nicely packaged summation of what the overall alien agenda is, according to Narin. This he told me nearly word-for-word on 2 occasions. The first was 6/7 years ago, the second was last fall. So it's consistent. Though his thoughts and opinions have changed throughout the years. He is not as fun lately, very miserable, close to death (apparently) and not even sure what is source is. He says he could be their puppet for all he knows but it doesn't mean that survivalism isn't a good skill.
He is also very anti-human. He has the philosophy that humans are a lowly bunch, contaminated by emotions. Apparently emotions were a byproduct of our creation to make us more easily controllable. He doesn't believe in good and evil...

Here is Eeyore's alien agenda. You'll see me agreeing with it unfortunately. I have a different, sober mindset now though. I guess I'm not doing my reputation any favours, but I'm putting it out there as an example of disinformation:

[19/06/2012 2:35:08 PM] lycaeus: yeah there's definitely something weird going on with our world
[19/06/2012 2:35:57 PM] lycaeus: i think that us humans are like an experiment gone wrong. like some groups want us as slaves, some want us to die, some want us to live harmoniously
[19/06/2012 2:36:46 PM] lycaeus: what is the big crossroads we are at? i first guessed it was because we are entering space with our advancing technology
[19/06/2012 2:36:51 PM] lycaeus: and we have nukes now
[19/06/2012 2:38:27 PM] eeyore: hehe you got it wrong, the experient didnt go wrong... it was a succes!
[19/06/2012 2:38:52 PM] lycaeus: a success? you mean we were supposed to live with so much hate and destroy the planet?!
[19/06/2012 2:39:25 PM] eeyore: to explain this i will have to tell you a big story
[19/06/2012 2:39:32 PM] eeyore: that goes all the way to the beginning
[19/06/2012 2:39:45 PM] lycaeus: i have about an hour today
[19/06/2012 2:39:50 PM] eeyore: has to do with the birth of humanity
[19/06/2012 2:39:57 PM] lycaeus: ok
[19/06/2012 2:40:19 PM] lycaeus: maybe if you could cover some main points today i would appreciate it a lot
[19/06/2012 2:41:04 PM] lycaeus: ive read a lot of conflicting theories about it. i would like to hear what you have to say. u r a stranger i've never met, but i have a gut feeling about you that you are right
[19/06/2012 2:41:38 PM] eeyore: how old do you think we as human species are?
[19/06/2012 2:42:13 PM] lycaeus: quite possibly millions of years. good chance we didn't start on earth
[19/06/2012 2:42:34 PM] lycaeus: we definitely have messed up genes tho
[19/06/2012 2:42:58 PM] lycaeus: maybe before atlantis
[19/06/2012 2:43:20 PM] eeyore: the human race is give or take 20.000 years old :)
[19/06/2012 2:43:31 PM] lycaeus: thats it? wow
[19/06/2012 2:43:36 PM] eeyore: between 15-25 i would say
[19/06/2012 2:43:41 PM] lycaeus: hmm
[19/06/2012 2:43:56 PM] lycaeus: so ancient monuments dated before that we're not built by humans or the dating is wrong
[19/06/2012 2:44:16 PM] eeyore: not build by humans as we know them today
[19/06/2012 2:44:27 PM] eeyore: altho we do share some ancestory
[19/06/2012 2:44:33 PM] lycaeus: ah ok
[19/06/2012 2:44:47 PM] eeyore: the story is as follow

lycaeus

02-24-2013, 11:24 PM

'Eeyore: Operation Confuse and Mislead' continued...

[19/06/2012 2:46:07 PM] eeyore: theres this alien species, advanced (space travel and all)
[19/06/2012 2:46:36 PM] eeyore: these are not the nicest bunch out there
[19/06/2012 2:47:03 PM] eeyore: anyhow
[19/06/2012 2:47:14 PM] eeyore: they ended up losing some space war
[19/06/2012 2:47:38 PM] eeyore: some realized that they where losing and they fled
[19/06/2012 2:47:53 PM] lycaeus: sounds familiar
[19/06/2012 2:48:00 PM] eeyore: I know
[19/06/2012 2:48:09 PM] eeyore: but this is just the beginning
[19/06/2012 2:48:29 PM] eeyore: for some reason they ended up in our corner of the universe...
[19/06/2012 2:48:43 PM] eeyore: and the earth looked very suitable
[19/06/2012 2:49:18 PM] eeyore: this is roughly 20.000 or more years ago
[19/06/2012 2:49:59 PM] eeyore: at that point earth did have humanoid life that was developing and evolving
[19/06/2012 2:50:18 PM] lycaeus: like ape man
[19/06/2012 2:50:23 PM] eeyore: I like to call them pre-humans....
[19/06/2012 2:50:29 PM] lycaeus: ok
[19/06/2012 2:50:33 PM] eeyore: or ape man, as you prefere
[19/06/2012 2:50:45 PM] lycaeus: yea
[19/06/2012 2:51:08 PM] lycaeus: and then we were upgraded?
[19/06/2012 2:51:20 PM] eeyore: dont rush the story ;)
[19/06/2012 2:51:23 PM] lycaeus: ok
[19/06/2012 2:51:39 PM] eeyore: now these aliens had 2 main issues
[19/06/2012 2:51:58 PM] eeyore: they wanted to start over and rebuild their empire
[19/06/2012 2:52:21 PM] eeyore: and two, they wanted to stay hidden from those that defeated them in the first place
[19/06/2012 2:52:33 PM] eeyore: those 2 interest kinda conflicted
[19/06/2012 2:52:58 PM] lycaeus: sounds like tsarion
[19/06/2012 2:53:14 PM] eeyore: nah he got it wrong
[19/06/2012 2:53:34 PM] eeyore: he got this bit somewhat right do
[19/06/2012 2:53:47 PM] eeyore: but from here on in hes way off base
[19/06/2012 2:53:56 PM] lycaeus: oh ok
[19/06/2012 2:54:40 PM] lycaeus: they didn't put up a distraction base on Tiamat?
[19/06/2012 2:54:56 PM] eeyore: no lol
[19/06/2012 2:55:01 PM] lycaeus: oh
[19/06/2012 2:55:24 PM] eeyore: and such details would hold no value either way
[19/06/2012 2:55:34 PM] lycaeus: that part always sounded fishy
[19/06/2012 2:56:00 PM] eeyore: but yea i will continue
[19/06/2012 2:56:03 PM] lycaeus: k
[19/06/2012 2:57:50 PM] eeyore: they needed a workforce to rebuild their empire... and ofcourse they had to work with what was available... this being the locals... so they started to experiment, but these experiments also had a second motive
[19/06/2012 2:59:05 PM] eeyore: they didnt just want to create the perfect workforce in their own image, but they also wanted to "dylude" the local gene pool as defense system...
[19/06/2012 2:59:16 PM] lycaeus: dilute?
[19/06/2012 2:59:21 PM] eeyore: yes
[19/06/2012 3:00:57 PM] eeyore: you see, by adding their own "DNA" or whatnot to the local enviroment they create a serious issue for their enemies... because what are they to do? these locals are basically innocent and have nothing to do with it... yet they are somewhat related..
[19/06/2012 3:01:27 PM] eeyore: and ofcourse their mandate is not to interfere with under developed planets like ours
[19/06/2012 3:01:58 PM] eeyore: also made it much harder to find the real aliens
[19/06/2012 3:02:22 PM] lycaeus: so they made us like them, so their enemies had a hard time telling whos who
[19/06/2012 3:02:31 PM] eeyore: no no
[19/06/2012 3:02:37 PM] eeyore: i will get there
[19/06/2012 3:02:52 PM] eeyore: for the stories sake i will call these aliens "atlantians"
[19/06/2012 3:02:59 PM] lycaeus: ok
[19/06/2012 3:03:19 PM] eeyore: so they started to experiment
[19/06/2012 3:04:13 PM] eeyore: when they finished their creation "a human" they soon realized that they had made an mistake....
[19/06/2012 3:04:48 PM] eeyore: you see, there was 1 small thing that they didnt really account for
[19/06/2012 3:05:25 PM] eeyore: they made this new species into their own image
[19/06/2012 3:05:51 PM] eeyore: and with that came great potential for intelect and understanding...
[19/06/2012 3:06:15 PM] eeyore: they used their entire brain to potential
[19/06/2012 3:07:05 PM] eeyore: at first they worked for the Atlantians but within notime they reached a point where they rebelled
[19/06/2012 3:07:39 PM] eeyore: they where no slaves in anyway but more equels to those that created them
[19/06/2012 3:08:31 PM] eeyore: They went their own way and would be known as "Lumurians" in this story
[19/06/2012 3:08:47 PM] lycaeus: this rings a bell
[19/06/2012 3:09:23 PM] eeyore: yes but the stories that are out there are wrong and mis information
[19/06/2012 3:09:37 PM] eeyore: anyhow,
[19/06/2012 3:09:37 PM] lycaeus: ok
[19/06/2012 3:10:11 PM] eeyore: so the atlantians tried again, back to experimenting and correcting their mistake
[19/06/2012 3:11:48 PM] eeyore: after a while "human .2" was created... Same as the lumurians but without the intelect... As written in the bible, adam and eve where naked, but not meaning the body, but meaning the mind....
[19/06/2012 3:12:06 PM] eeyore: we humans only use so little of the brain
[19/06/2012 3:12:14 PM] eeyore: this is because we are engineered so
[19/06/2012 3:12:20 PM] eeyore: diliberately blocked
[19/06/2012 3:12:29 PM] lycaeus: true
[19/06/2012 3:12:43 PM] eeyore: they couldnt take it out... they could only lock it away
[19/06/2012 3:13:15 PM] lycaeus: so there are tow races of us? one with the brains and us retarded ones?
[19/06/2012 3:13:32 PM] eeyore: hehe no
[19/06/2012 3:13:48 PM] eeyore: just let me continue
[19/06/2012 3:13:52 PM] lycaeus: ok sry
[19/06/2012 3:14:17 PM] eeyore: we functioned as hoped for, the human project was a success
[19/06/2012 3:14:41 PM] eeyore: but there was 1 thing the atlantians didnt count on
[19/06/2012 3:15:04 PM] eeyore: which was that their first creation would turn on them...
[19/06/2012 3:16:08 PM] eeyore: you see, the lumurians where even more deviant then its creators... the atlatians where altho not very good aliens, they where pretty straightforward about it, it was just their way....
[19/06/2012 3:16:16 PM] eeyore: the lumurians on the other hand
[19/06/2012 3:17:06 PM] eeyore: they inhabited the same believes only they believed in manipulation, lies, deceit, illusions etc as means to gain it
[19/06/2012 3:17:26 PM] lycaeus: gain what?
[19/06/2012 3:18:24 PM] eeyore: so as the snake went into the garden of eden, so did the lumurians trying to convince their retarded cousins adams and eves to join them, that they where being used and that they should be free and what not
[19/06/2012 3:18:47 PM] eeyore: adam would not hear of... it was eve who started to have some doubts
[19/06/2012 3:19:08 PM] lycaeus: so only the females responded
[19/06/2012 3:19:15 PM] eeyore: nope
[19/06/2012 3:19:30 PM] eeyore: this is why people often tell of female intuition
[19/06/2012 3:19:54 PM] lycaeus: so by 'eve's u don't mean females?
[19/06/2012 3:20:04 PM] eeyore: i do
[19/06/2012 3:20:04 PM] eeyore: but
[19/06/2012 3:20:15 PM] eeyore: in the end she convinced the adams as well
[19/06/2012 3:20:44 PM] lycaeus: just wanna make clear, the adams=males eves =females?
[19/06/2012 3:21:05 PM] eeyore: yes
[19/06/2012 3:21:06 PM] eeyore: but the lumurians didnt have the intention of freeing humans... they just wanted the slaves for themselves, after all why make them yourself when you can just take them
[19/06/2012 3:21:09 PM] eeyore: humans
[19/06/2012 3:21:49 PM] eeyore: but by bringing the concept of freedom to them and manipulate them they where able to get the humans at their side
[19/06/2012 3:22:07 PM] eeyore: this meant war between the atlantians and the lumurians
[19/06/2012 3:22:15 PM] eeyore: the lumurians where supported by the humans
[19/06/2012 3:22:55 PM] eeyore: in the end atlantis fell and the atlantians where done in by their own creations....
[19/06/2012 3:23:45 PM] eeyore: i want to make it clear that neither the atlantians nor the lumurians are our friends
[19/06/2012 3:24:09 PM] eeyore: after the atlantians fell the lumurians just resumed their rule
[19/06/2012 3:24:17 PM] eeyore: but not openly like the atlantians
[19/06/2012 3:24:33 PM] eeyore: they just sold us lie after lie and manipulated us like cattle
[19/06/2012 3:24:47 PM] eeyore: they feel no relation to us what so ever
[19/06/2012 3:24:57 PM] eeyore: even tho we are cousins
[19/06/2012 3:25:38 PM] eeyore: these lumurians are the ones that are TPTB today and have been for astleast 10-15.000 years
[19/06/2012 3:26:23 PM] eeyore: they have honed their skills and technics for over 10.000 years... you will not imagine how good they are at what they do
[19/06/2012 3:26:52 PM] eeyore: the mere thought of defeating them is rediculous [!]
[19/06/2012 3:27:12 PM] eeyore: humans will NEVER defeat the lumurians
[19/06/2012 3:27:39 PM] eeyore: you have a better chance of winningthe lottery 1000 times in a row...
[19/06/2012 3:28:03 PM] eeyore: anyhow
[19/06/2012 3:28:20 PM] eeyore: of course the universe did find out the atlantians settled here
[19/06/2012 3:28:42 PM] eeyore: and since then this planet has been a bit of an issue for the galaxtic powers
[19/06/2012 3:29:13 PM] eeyore: its important to know that there is NO CONCENCUS among those powers in the stars
[19/06/2012 3:29:46 PM] eeyore: we are a paradox
[19/06/2012 3:30:01 PM] eeyore: we are earthlings and yet not
[19/06/2012 3:30:43 PM] eeyore: this is also why when you look at the earth we are more a cancer then in balance with nature... because we are not 100% of this planets nature

lycaeus

02-24-2013, 11:25 PM

'Eeyore: Operation Confuse and Mislead' continued...

[19/06/2012 3:30:59 PM] lycaeus: makes sense
[19/06/2012 3:31:12 PM] eeyore: part of us is truly foreign to this planet
[19/06/2012 3:31:24 PM] eeyore: and yet part of us isnt
[19/06/2012 3:31:29 PM] lycaeus: there's proof of that too
[19/06/2012 3:32:00 PM] lycaeus: we could not have completely evolved here. we are dependent on molybdenum yet earth has little molybdenum, so we couldnt have naturally evolved here
[19/06/2012 3:32:13 PM] eeyore: anyhow we have basically been on lockdown ever since
[19/06/2012 3:32:49 PM] eeyore: and the galactic powers have shown the lumurians that when we man tried to ventured into space
[19/06/2012 3:33:48 PM] eeyore: they recognize that the lumurians are beyond saving
[19/06/2012 3:33:57 PM] eeyore: humans are a different matter tho
[19/06/2012 3:34:08 PM] eeyore: we started out so innocent
[19/06/2012 3:34:24 PM] eeyore: but over thousands of years we have become more and more like our masters
[19/06/2012 3:34:44 PM] eeyore: classic monkey see monkey do
[19/06/2012 3:34:51 PM] lycaeus: uh huh
[19/06/2012 3:35:07 PM] eeyore: this is troubling to many in the universe
[19/06/2012 3:35:46 PM] eeyore: oppinions varry from destroying earth, to saving mankind...
[19/06/2012 3:36:11 PM] eeyore: you have powers that want to help lumurians even
[19/06/2012 3:36:35 PM] eeyore: needless to say, there are a lot of eyes on us
[19/06/2012 3:36:50 PM] eeyore: and the most interesting part is
[19/06/2012 3:37:18 PM eeyore: that of all these thousands of years our life time will be the moment of truth
[19/06/2012 3:37:25 PM] eeyore: like i said earlier
[19/06/2012 3:37:34 PM] eeyore: we are at a crossroad
[19/06/2012 3:37:41 PM] eeyore: but not just some crossroad
[19/06/2012 3:40:41 PM] eeyore: look around you, our climate is at a crossroad, technologically speaking we are at a crossroad, we are at the verge of the space frontier which is another crossroad, our economic system is at a crossroad, our financial system is at a crossroad, spiruality is at a crossroad, and there are many of these BIG HUGE crossroads all happening at the same time! Each one of these crossroad on its own could change EVERYTHING.
[19/06/2012 3:41:43 PM] eeyore: The lumurians want to start over, and they want to go to space... they want to expand
[19/06/2012 3:42:03 PM] eeyore: but they cant because the galaxtic powers are in their way keeping them trapped here
[19/06/2012 3:43:51 PM] eeyore: They had they fun pitting us against eachother, keeping controlled chaos to control us... but this has now changed.... they want to unite us, make us 1, and use all that warfare knowledge and power to fight the galaxtic forces to open the universe to them
[19/06/2012 3:44:45 PM] eeyore: unifing humanity to use as 1 overwhelming force to take out the galaxtic forces, who will be potrait as the bad guys ofcourse
[19/06/2012 3:45:02 PM] lycaeus: ha! a NWO of 'love' lol
[19/06/2012 3:45:10 PM] lycaeus: wow
[19/06/2012 3:45:23 PM] lycaeus: that is a lot for me to think about today
[19/06/2012 3:45:38 PM] eeyore: theres so much more ;)
[19/06/2012 3:45:40 PM] lycaeus: it makes more sense than a lot of things i've read [i shake my head and sigh when reading this]
[19/06/2012 3:45:43 PM] lycaeus: ok
[19/06/2012 3:45:52 PM] lycaeus: i will go over this convo tonight and bug u tmrw

There are more things too. He once suggested that the possible aliens messing with me are my allies because my real enemies would just simply kill me. (!?)... He also talked proudly about him being possessed by his contact and seeing through their mind for a moment or so. The last conversation I had with him he randomly brought up that he was dying. That he had almost died a few times this past year (even though his source showed him as big and strong in the future). I felt kind of bad, but why hadn't he brought it up earlier with the many times I opened with 'how's it going'? I'm not at all sure if he was just making that sorrowful part up to get my goat or something. But if he is being possessed, maybe that is what is supposedly killing him?

I was a little drunk during our last conversation where I stood up to him and questioned him about everything. I called him out on his contradictions and he repeatedly told me that he was 'sorry I am very contaminated'. He started mocking me in a way too. I said I was still open to discussing things even though it might be a little awkward now. We didn't talk for a month or so, and when I checked Skype, it looked like he deleted or blocked me so I don't know what happened to him.

If someone is interested and asks certain questions I can probably remember more of what he said to me. It might jog my memory. But I think I got the gist of it out there.

Neuru

02-24-2013, 11:51 PM

Exciting stuff, appreciate your posting all that up here. :thumbup:

He also talked proudly about him being possessed by his contact and seeing through their mind for a moment or so.
Similarity with Fore's case, only significant one I see so far (apart from the survival training scenarios). What did he say about this experience?

Doc

02-24-2013, 11:57 PM

Other than his slow speech, he sounds a little like a person in a hypomanic state. They can be very compelling and definitely give you a weird feeling talking to them. He seems very manipulative but that is common. Do you think there is a likelihood that there was something "wrong" with him?

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 02:24 AM

Exciting stuff, appreciate your posting all that up here.
You're very welcome ;)

It's actually really hard for me to get through writing this thread and I wonder if blocks are put into place to prevent me from sharing my relatively minor alien/abduction experiences. Thought I would be done this a LONG time ago. Especially suspicious when you consider that one night not too long ago, I had symptoms of abduction one night where I dreamt of posting on this blog. So possible programming there.

Similarity with Fore's case
Eeyore and Fore are both people I've never met in real life. Only read some of their words they typed over the internet. But I notice that they are both very unlike. Fore is supportive, long-winded, keeps conversations going, nice, caring, colourful and has a good sense of humour. Eeyore on the other hand is boring, plain and takes forever to respond even if he was just actively talking, I'd get no response for way too long. He said that he was typing on his mobile and that he had a computer in the past, but as long as I can remember he always typed slow. Often he flat-out ignored me on certain topics. Unlike Fore, he avoids questions, has an obviously more egotistical and arrogant disposition, is less open-minded and critical of himself. Basically Eeyore is right no matter what even though he contradicts himself and brings no real evidence to the table. He is definitely not as intelligent by any means either. While Fore is willing to talk about his uncertainty on occasion, Eeyore has an ego thing and can be pretty rude.

Other than his slow speech, he sounds a little like a person in a hypomanic state. They can be very compelling and definitely give you a weird feeling talking to them.
Very compelling, especially to a confused and neurotic teenager looking for answers. To me, he was the role model, the special chosen boy who got to be a part of the big boys plans. Anything contradictory he said I figured is right whether it made sense to me, because him and 'Narin' had the philosophy that good and evil don't exist and I felt that I am not smart enough to understand their point of view. Curiously, I mentioned Michael Tsarion and he called him a maniac lol. Mtsar is a little on the dry side, but that's how rigorous intellectuals are...

What did he say about this experience?

Do you think there is a likelihood that there was something "wrong" with him?

He told me this a couple times. He went off topic to talk about this cool experience where this being he's in contact with took over his body and gave him superhuman power. I'm not sure how many times they fully merged, but it's at least once. He said the thoughts of this being were unimaginably huge. It was amazing to him, like a god-like experience. I guess he was 'touched by the alien devil'. He was blown away by how vast the beings mind was, how different it was from a normal humans. Like there was almost no comparison whatsoever.

I don't have any older conversations, but he proudly repeated the story about his huge dog encounter recently which I saved. Notice how he avoids questions... Bolded words my own emphasis:

[7:31:42 PM] lycaeus: hey
[7:33:43 PM] eeyore: hi
[7:34:12 PM] lycaeus: isnt it ast your bedtime
[7:36:56 PM] eeyore: yup
[7:37:11 PM] lycaeus: haha true
[7:37:28 PM] lycaeus: i just got in. got a new job landscaing now!
[7:39:02 PM] eeyore: congrats
[7:39:35 PM] lycaeus: thks man. im a lot happier now, its a lot better... i forgot how great sunshine was
[7:40:53 PM] lycaeus: i dont think ill be moving anytime soon, despite my fears. i have more of a 'come what may' attitude now. trying not to worry about what ican't control
[7:44:41 PM] lycaeus: and im utterly convinced that we live on after we die, so im just accepting things instead of being in fear. maybe its my destiny to not survive, if something drastic happens. i remember you said the future is set in stone. do you still stand by that?
[7:45:25 PM] eeyore: yep
[7:47:37 PM] lycaeus: how much do you know about the future, like any major turning poiints?
[7:50:01 PM] lycaeus: or are you not allowed to say?
[7:50:56 PM] eeyore: how can i know how much i know? dont i need to know the size of the total amount to determine how much the size is that i know?
[7:53:53 PM] lycaeus: well, we all know the content of what we know. but we don't know the value of it without the bigger picture.
[7:57:30 PM] lycaeus: i should be more specific. what i'm asking is what can you tell me of your knowledge that might help me prepare, or have a greater understanding of where we're going with all the crazy things going on in the world. there's this anxiety in a lot of people about the future, and so many people are getting excited about doomsday and end of the world. i figure you're the guy to talk to for advice
[7:59:56 PM] eeyore: i hate it when people use the wrong terms like "the end of the world"
[8:01:39 PM] lycaeus: me too. that phrase can mean so many different things, but it does give an idea of a big change into something new
[8:02:08 PM] eeyore: not really
[8:02:17 PM] eeyore: it only shows ignorance
[8:05:32 PM] lycaeus: it does, which is why i prefer doomsday. i mentioned the phrase because it's almost cliche to talk about, its so popular. i think that we can sense a storm coming, so we get anxious and call it whatever we want
[8:09:02 PM] eeyore: its funny tho, human perception is like the biggest variable... this makes for ackward naming results... Doomsday, New Age, end of the world, rapture, evolutionairy leap, cosmic transendence, age of awareness, age of enlightend, etc etc etc
[8:09:46 PM] eeyore: only contributes towards the confusion
[8:10:41 PM] eeyore: is it good? is it bad? are we going to die? are we going to trancend? WTF is going on?!
[8:11:15 PM] eeyore: thats what you get when you do some research
[8:11:35 PM] eeyore: because every smuck is promoting his OWN perception
[8:12:21 PM] eeyore: and any human perception of is flawed
[8:14:05 PM] lycaeus: we use very little of our brain, and we tend to be overly emotional. emotions tend to override rationality and correct decisions... like a drug
[8:16:02 PM] lycaeus: all i know is that the world is run by sychoaths and owerful hidden intelligences. and i could die any second because owerful forces could change our lives instantly, dramatically.
[8:16:45 PM] eeyore: sychoaths are?
[8:17:42 PM] lycaeus: some keyboard buttons dont work sometimes
[8:18:22 PM] lycaeus: insane men controlling everything
[8:20:01 PM] eeyore: funny part is tho, if you would ask humanity, would you give up emotions for a perfect world they would all decline... they dont want to give up on there 1 and only drug... how to live without music, comedy, laughter, love etc....
[8:20:16 PM] eeyore: people would argue that you wouldnt be human no more
[8:21:00 PM] eeyore: but to have the one you also have hate, greed, etc
[8:22:29 PM] lycaeus: im a musician, and its the greatest exerience for me. but i also enjoy intellectual conversations and writing...
[8:22:56 PM] eeyore: but without emotion, what good would music be?
[8:23:09 PM] lycaeus: music equals emotion.
[8:23:18 PM] eeyore: it would have no meaning
[8:23:25 PM] lycaeus: exactly
[8:23:46 PM] eeyore: i can tell you, i have seen this, its possible
[8:23:56 PM] eeyore: whatever is helping and teaching me
[8:24:03 PM] eeyore: it has no emotions
[8:24:04 PM] eeyore: none
[8:24:56 PM] eeyore: there are brief moments when im threatend, that it takes control over my body and at that point i can feel and think what it feels and thinks
[8:25:18 PM] lycaeus: thats incredible
[8:25:20 PM] eeyore: its so bloody amazing
[8:25:28 PM] eeyore: such an experience
[8:25:37 PM] eeyore: yet so scary
[8:26:12 PM] eeyore: i feel really sorry for whoever goes up against it
[8:26:25 PM] eeyore: there is no way in hell anyone will defeat it
[8:26:42 PM] lycaeus: . magic mushrooms gave me exeriences that i cant ut into words so i can imagine...
[8:26:50 PM] eeyore: i can feel its power too
[8:27:06 PM] lycaeus: wow :O
[8:27:23 PM] eeyore: it was interesting tho
[8:27:28 PM] eeyore: i was in the woods
[8:28:01 PM] eeyore: then out of nowhere theres this insane huge dog, like 200meters away... like those fighting mean ass dogs...
[8:28:10 PM] eeyore: he starts to charge me
[8:28:14 PM] eeyore: i start to run the other way
[8:28:29 PM] eeyore: but as i do this i realize i will never outrun a dog
[8:28:44 PM] eeyore: my mind kinda lost it so it took over
[8:28:48 PM] eeyore: i turn around
[8:29:01 PM] eeyore: and the dog goes in full breaks
[8:29:07 PM] eeyore: looks at me
[8:29:12 PM] eeyore: and runs off the other way
[8:29:20 PM] lycaeus: ******* suerman thats crazy
[8:29:38 PM] eeyore: i was happy for the dog tho...
[8:30:00 PM] eeyore: cause it would have left nothing of that dog
[8:30:47 PM] lycaeus: youve told me this story before. thats amazing. what do you think it wants from you or you to do..
[8:31:19 PM] lycaeus: actually
[8:31:31 PM] lycaeus: i had a very similar exerience...
[8:32:17 PM] eeyore: I dont try to think about that, im sure it could basically tell me anything it likes, i cant verify anything... it could just be using me and lying to me for all i know...
[8:32:41 PM] eeyore: theres nothing i can do about it...
[8:32:51 PM] eeyore: it owns my ass

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 04:13 AM

So I edited out some of the more relevant things that I saved from our conversations. The editing took me forever. In Eeyore's defense, he is a good person, but I think he is in line with something very negative. Is it an alien or a demon or both or is he insane? idk. But his source seems to be agenda-driven, goal-oriented and strategic. At first I think he is interacting with a negative alien, but the possession part makes me think demon. So I will put my money on a Possessed Alien, maybe a reptilian.

But then again I also wonder if an alien can psychically manipulate us? Maybe if we have a strong bond with them and repeatedly give them permission to be a part of our lives, then that forfeits our higher protection and makes it easier for them to mess with our minds. And in Eeyore's case, that would include taking physical control of the body. That's pretty scary. I really wonder who or what I was talking to, or what was talking through him. His inexplicable illness alludes to there being some sort of vampyrism going on. The anti-human philosophies are also revealing. So it's anybody's guess.

[7:56:19 PM] lycaeus: i dont think theres a nice way too say this, and i dont want to be a dick, but you are very dismissive and come off as very arrogant sometimes
[7:56:46 PM] eeyore: I know
[7:58:06 PM] lycaeus: you dont say much, and you talk like youre not human. you may interact with higher intelligences, but you are one of us, not them
[7:58:52 PM] lycaeus: it bugs me a lot that you dont exlain much, and dismiss things i say, because you were the first to start our dialogue, for lack of a better word
[7:59:29 PM] eeyore: I only dismiss what is wrong ;)
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[8:13:02 PM] eeyore: I interact with something, alien would be a guess or speculation
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[8:14:27 PM] eeyore: Ive never seen a being on earth
[8:14:52 PM] eeyore: Wish i had tho...
[8:14:56 PM] lycaeus: ghosts, ufos, abductions, demons, aralysis, these things are what i consider aranormal in an every day contect
[8:15:24 PM] lycaeus: well youve seen human beings... who knows, maybe you have and not noticed it
[8:15:31 PM] lycaeus: and your contact
[8:15:36 PM] lycaeus: i dont believe is ositive
[8:16:27 PM] eeyore: Thats ur right [what's that supposed to mean?!]
[8:16:51 PM] lycaeus: and its not a good idea to want to interact, or wish, to interact with aliens, because most likely, it is the negative ones who will take you up on your offer. the positive ones tend to stay on the sidelines giving a helping hand out of sight
[8:17:18 PM] lycaeus: ?
[8:17:54 PM] eeyore: Not just that, interaction takes it toll
[8:18:15 PM] eeyore: Physically
(that's all he said about that)
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[8:33:05 PM] lycaeus: i just sense a negative influence
[8:33:13 PM] eeyore: Also u know i have a source, yet u ask for credible evidence... Are u kiddig me? U think my source is going to email me his/her refferences and ****? Common
[8:33:59 PM] lycaeus: not credible evidence for your source, but credible evidence to support why you believe the future will turn out the way you think it does
[8:34:22 PM] lycaeus: i think its dangerous to take one source as the truth, if that is what you are doing with your source
[8:34:50 PM] eeyore: There is no 1 reason, in fact there are thousands and they are all linked together
[8:35:21 PM] lycaeus: these are the things id like to get in to...
[8:35:55 PM] eeyore: As humun im just not capable of explaining this complicated web of links
[8:35:58 PM] lycaeus: but some things are buggin me
[8:36:21 PM] lycaeus: ok
[8:36:33 PM] lycaeus: what complicated web of links?
[8:37:23 PM] eeyore: Its like the butterfly effect u cant explain in detail why killing this butterfly will cause 10.000 years later an earthquake...
[8:37:48 PM] lycaeus: do you expect solar flares knocking out the power grid, nibiru causing catastrophe or what? you said there are likely no underground bunkers for the government to hide in but there obviously are, for their own fears of the future
[8:38:04 PM] eeyore: All these links and steps are too complicated
[8:38:18 PM] lycaeus: no theyre not. we have brains
[8:38:54 PM] eeyore: I do believe governments have bunkers
[8:39:13 PM] lycaeus: then why did you say there most likely are no bunkers?
[8:39:40 PM] eeyore: Never said that
[8:40:12 PM] lycaeus: im pretty sure you did
[8:40:21 PM] lycaeus: im checking
[8:40:55 PM] eeyore: Sorry mate, i would never say that, cause i know they have
[8:42:30 PM] lycaeus: ok im just checking if its in there, because i doubt myself sometimes, i think its healthy, though im almost certain you said something to the effect of 'likely not'
[8:43:28 PM] eeyore: U getting in that bunker is likely not...
[8:45:03 PM] eeyore: Or u have friends and family that have access that can get u in?
[8:45:22 PM] lycaeus: 2:02:24 PM] lycaeus: i have some vague ideas about what TPTB's plans are for us, but im not sure. there could be lots of earthquakes and other disasters artificial or natural
[2:02:45 PM] eeyore: tptb?
[2:02:48 PM] lycaeus: and then som 'aliens' could offer to 'save' our desperate race
[2:02:55 PM] lycaeus: the powers that be*
[2:03:18 PM] eeyore: ah k
[2:03:37 PM] lycaeus: cuz isn't it a plan to let us starve and kill each other?
[2:03:45 PM] lycaeus: wile they're safe underground
[2:04:40 PM] eeyore: not likely
...quotes are in bold....

[8:46:15 PM] lycaeus: im guessing you are referring to the governments extermination agenda when you say 'not likely' and not negating the bases....
[8:46:37 PM] eeyore: Yea
[8:46:53 PM] lycaeus: ok
[8:47:34 PM] lycaeus: so you believe that the government does not want to kill off the significantly reduce the worlds population even though it is carved in stone, really?
[8:47:36 PM] eeyore: And gov may have an extermination plan, but its not in my top concerns
[8:48:21 PM] lycaeus: so isnt it likely that the government would let us starve and kill each other? that was the concern i was expressing in that past conversation
[8:48:32 PM] eeyore: To me it doesnt matter
[8:49:05 PM] eeyore: If its goverment, plague, water, astroid, poleshift, flare etc etc
[8:49:09 PM] eeyore: I dont care
[8:49:15 PM] lycaeus: so youre saying that its not likely the government plans to starve and kill us
[8:49:37 PM] eeyore: Well it possible
[8:49:56 PM] lycaeus: so you believe that what i suggested is a very real possiblity, yet you just say not likely, and seemingly shrug it off
[8:50:17 PM] eeyore: Out of the top of my head it would even be the prefered ootion
[8:51:07 PM] lycaeus: i thought you would be more of a teacher and be able to explain your understanding more clearly because you reached out first, but i guess i was wrong... but im down for discussing it
[8:51:47 PM] eeyore: I shrug it off because it wouldnt be that bad... Much rather have that than full tetonic shifts
[8:51:55 PM] lycaeus: well i guess the enemies of our supposed masters would rather have us killed...
[8:52:39 PM] lycaeus: why is it not likely?
[8:53:03 PM] eeyore: Btw i have already apologized for reaching out to u in the first place
[8:53:36 PM] lycaeus: yeah you did warn me fair enough
[8:54:01 PM] lycaeus: i was very naive and gullible
[8:54:17 PM] eeyore: I did admit i made the first mistake
[8:54:28 PM] lycaeus: fair enough
[8:54:44 PM] eeyore: But thats water under the bridge
[8:54:52 PM] lycaeus: but why do you think itd not likely our government would kill us?
[8:54:55 PM] lycaeus: yes it is
[8:56:13 PM] lycaeus: ill clarify, let us starve and kill each other. which is what you hinted at with the cannibalism talk
[8:57:21 PM] lycaeus: see this is why you have had negative effects on me. the lack of explanations
[8:57:22 PM] eeyore: Governments suck but they have far less power then u think besides, if they start starving us then im happy, its one of the easy senarios... Would make sense for me to go through all this deep **** for such and easy senario
[8:58:10 PM] eeyore: Wouldnt

.....okay, so eeyore is happy if we all starve to death.........?!?!
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[9:15:05 PM] lycaeus: and its not our emotions that are the problem
[9:15:21 PM] lycaeus: [8:58:05 PM] eeyore: emotions was a simple by product of how they engineered us, later it became and easy tool to control and devide us
[9:16:10 PM] eeyore: Yes but i also said emotions is what makes us humans
[9:16:24 PM] lycaeus: its this negative influence that is not human, that has caused all these peoblems for us. therefore any interaction with non human entities should be treated with the utmost care and discernment
[9:16:31 PM] eeyore: And that we would probably never give that up
[9:17:30 PM] lycaeus: especially if they try to seduce you with power, for example, infatuating you with an incredible exerience of being possessed
[9:19:04 PM] eeyore: Why would they seduce me?
[9:19:38 PM] lycaeus: to get you to play into their agenda without you knowing it possibly?
[9:20:10 PM] lycaeus: i cant see many positive forces possessing people, or reventing them from haveing sex
[9:20:21 PM] lycaeus: sex is more than a drug...
[9:20:33 PM] eeyore: Why do they care if i play ball? They can posses and control me at will
[9:20:50 PM] lycaeus: thats the thing. they cant! they need your permission
[9:21:05 PM] eeyore: Right
[9:21:11 PM] lycaeus: at some level there is an agreement
[9:21:49 PM] eeyore: Cause we are gods creatures that are so powerfull nobody can touch us without permission...
[9:21:58 PM] lycaeus: otherwise, there would not be so much brainwashing, there would be overt control, not hidden, manipulative games... we are being pursuaded all the time. there are rules
[9:22:52 PM] lycaeus: if youre being sarcastic, then i know what you mean. we are not protected from everything
[9:23:27 PM] lycaeus: at some level, our soul, or connection to a higher spirit calls the shots

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 04:15 AM

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[9:34:34 PM] lycaeus: have you ever seen or talked to your source in person?
[9:34:50 PM] lycaeus: because it could be anything
[9:35:20 PM] lycaeus: the fact you dismiss most books shows youre close minded and more easily influenced
[9:35:49 PM] eeyore: No, its never been on earth in the physical sense, i wonder if it would even be able to
[9:35:57 PM] lycaeus: again, i hate to sound like a dick. just want to be honest for my own sake
[9:36:09 PM] lycaeus: ok
[9:36:43 PM] eeyore: Im not close minded tho
[9:36:46 PM] lycaeus: whay do you think someone from the other side of the galaxy would care to influence a little ant like you?
[9:37:39 PM] lycaeus: i fear for you if you dont investigate and read other peoples research and experiences as far out as your own
[9:37:58 PM] eeyore: I dont know if its an actual someone nor do i know if its from other side of space
[9:38:02 PM] lycaeus: there are many books that talk about the negative alien influence
[9:38:22 PM] lycaeus: so dont ut all your eggs in one basket is all im saying
[9:38:57 PM] lycaeus: im sure its had many positive influences on you, but its still extremely sketchy
[9:39:33 PM] eeyore: Right
[9:39:43 PM] eeyore: I will keep it in mind
[9:40:25 PM] lycaeus: you dont think so? i dont have the complete icture because you seem very vague, or youre choosing to not disclose some things...
[9:40:51 PM] eeyore: What?

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not sure why he starts to ask about iq tests here...
maybe he's starting to consider what I'm saying? I hope so. Or maybe he wants t get me to be egotistical and talk about how smart I am or something, and think I'm egotistical or something. He could use that against me in his own mind to discredit anything I'm saying.. I guess he just wants to change the subject..

[9:45:59 PM] lycaeus: when you said this force could take you over and do what it wants with you...
[9:46:39 PM] lycaeus: that stands out as a big red flag to me. so i have to be more objective and not take you too seriously, because i dont know you. im sure youre a very good erson however
[9:49:01 PM] eeyore: I was wondering, have u ever done an IQ test, and if so, what score?
[9:49:04 PM] lycaeus: sry for the negative energy man. i really hope the best for you and wish you good health. i just had to get all this emotional tension out of my system. i hope you dont pity me
[9:49:19 PM] lycaeus: you answer first :P
[9:50:01 PM] lycaeus: cmon
[9:50:13 PM] eeyore: I dont care, u can say whatever u like about me
[9:50:40 PM] lycaeus: ok thanks. i just want to get to the bottom of things
[9:51:03 PM] eeyore: I never done a IQ test
[9:51:19 PM] lycaeus: i did a couple...
[9:51:30 PM] eeyore: Maybe i should :)
[9:51:51 PM] lycaeus: one i got 169, and another 135 [probably not that accurate, they were internet tests... or maybe all that weed has slowed my brain down?]... i was in the gifted rogram, so im above average intelligence, why do you ask?
[9:52:35 PM] eeyore: Just curious
[9:53:06 PM] lycaeus: ok then...
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[2:05:02 PM] lycaeus: it's carved in stone to reduce the world's population
[2:05:19 PM] lycaeus: and there are underground survival bases, expensive ones
[2:05:43 PM] lycaeus: a lot of religions prophecy earth changes
[2:06:03 PM] eeyore: even so, your way off base
[2:06:29 PM] lycaeus: how do you mean?
[2:08:02 PM] lycaeus: edgar cayce predicted a pole shift around this time, and he was very accurate. he would go into a trance and come up with cures to heal people, very well documented. he talked about how atlantis was destroyed and how e're repeating a similar cycle
[2:08:59 PM] lycaeus: do you see where i'm coming from?
[2:09:17 PM] eeyore: yes, unfortunately :(
[2:09:40 PM] lycaeus: so u think i'm being too paranoid with it?
[2:10:07 PM] eeyore: no
[2:10:15 PM] eeyore: I think you listen to the wrong stuff
[2:10:40 PM] eeyore: I see you as if you where in a thick myst
[2:10:51 PM] lycaeus: thats how it feels
[2:10:54 PM] eeyore: you dont really have a clue
[2:11:20 PM] lycaeus: a clue to what?
[2:11:52 PM] eeyore: well if we continue with the myst analogy then where your going or what your hearing
[2:12:53 PM] lycaeus: all i know for sure is that i'm unsure about all this future doomsday stuff
[2:13:26 PM] lycaeus: the destruction of civilization could very well be orchestrated
[2:13:53 PM] lycaeus: but why?
[2:14:23 PM] lycaeus: like we are being groomed by more intelligent beings
[2:14:48 PM] eeyore: we are not being groomed
[2:14:58 PM] eeyore: we are not that important mate
[2:15:40 PM] lycaeus: then what's with all this manipulation? or maybe we're not manipulated? but that's hard to believe
[2:16:09 PM] lycaeus: the universe is huge, and we are tiny specks
[2:16:27 PM] lycaeus: one thing comes to mind
[2:17:16 PM] lycaeus: when my friend 'channeled' marcy from andromeda (so it seems) she said that aliens watch us like we watch a comedy show. she said that all eyes are on us
[2:18:14 PM] lycaeus: i don't know why they would be though. we're an insane race. it's easy to see why other beings wouldn't want us entering space
[2:18:39 PM] eeyore: its because of our history
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[2:54:22 PM] eeyore: its hard to explain with the whole backstory
[2:55:18 PM] eeyore: cause outside interference like we see on earth is not common in the universe, in fact there are rules and pacts against this sort of thing
[2:55:29 PM] eeyore: its extremely uncommon
[2:55:38 PM] eeyore: and this has its reasons too
[2:55:42 PM] lycaeus: ive heard there's a death penalty for it
[2:55:53 PM] eeyore: thats BS
[2:56:55 PM] lycaeus: hmmm... the author who said that said he went to the pleiades where he got his technical knowledge to become a genius
[2:57:49 PM] lycaeus: preston nichols "encounters in the pleiades". he was also wrote Montauk, Experiments in Time. he seems sincere but maybe he is just manipulated
[2:58:42 PM] lycaeus: when i read that, i was shocked to think that advanced beings would just kill each other with capital punishment
[2:58:55 PM] lycaeus: but idk, there is so much conflicting information
[2:59:38 PM] lycaeus: i've at least come to the conclusion that we are being manipulated in ways we don't understand for reasons we know nothing of
[3:00:04 PM] eeyore: my best advise to you is to just forget everything you've read...
[3:00:49 PM] eeyore: I can assure you, those people with real contacts are NOT writing books about it!
[3:01:11 PM] eeyore: in fact i'm forbidden to write a book about it
[3:01:19 PM] eeyore: I couldnt even if I tried
[3:02:22 PM] lycaeus: yeah i guess that makes sense
[3:02:43 PM] lycaeus: it won't be easy to just forget everything though
[3:02:55 PM] eeyore: I know...
[3:02:56 PM] eeyore: :(
[3:03:05 PM] eeyore: and your so far gone
[3:03:08 PM] eeyore: it troubles me

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 04:16 AM

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eeyore: i get very depressed by humans in general tbh
[3:45:42 PM] eeyore: things i know and seen...
[3:45:57 PM] eeyore: makes me feel stuck on this backwater planet :(
[3:46:27 PM] eeyore: like if you would suddenly end up in the stone age... you would feel out of place too
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[3:22:10 PM] lycaeus: yeah. i was hoping you can help me sort out this delusion
[3:22:59 PM] eeyore: I can, but this will take lots of time and effort.. not just on my part, maybe even more so from you
[3:23:50 PM] eeyore: Its not something you just tell someone, you gotta see the links, the bigger picture, how it all fits and grows
[3:24:04 PM] lycaeus: i see, kind of
[3:24:51 PM] lycaeus: i've been trying to work throug my 'shadow material' which is about being honest with yourself, shining light onto things you've represses. i am a very self-critical *******
[3:24:59 PM] eeyore: and also important, you have to start at the beginning
[3:25:18 PM] lycaeus: as with everything
[3:25:27 PM] eeyore: self reflection is good
[3:25:55 PM] lycaeus: i've been consciously breaking up my pride /self-importance
[3:26:35 PM] lycaeus: i've acted like such a know-it-all, so i'm trying to be more humble. no one is below me or above me
[3:27:34 PM] lycaeus: so what are you talking about? like observing lif in a different way?
[3:27:37 PM] eeyore: i must warn you though, when i tell you stuff, you cant easily forget... knowing this **** can be bad for your health
[3:28:31 PM] lycaeus: that's ok, i can live with it if it's the truth
[3:29:10 PM] eeyore: im especially weary to tell people in america continent
[3:29:48 PM] eeyore: I told someone in USA, when he started to act accordingly, he died...
[3:30:01 PM] lycaeus: car crash? [he's said this before...]
[3:30:04 PM] eeyore: yea
[3:30:20 PM] eeyore: to me bit suspicous
[3:30:24 PM] lycaeus: could it have been an accident?
[3:30:56 PM] eeyore: wasnt able to get much info but from what i read didnt make much sense
[3:31:33 PM] eeyore: there was 4 people in the car, he was the only one that died... others had barely nothing... and yet he was so misformed that he had to be burned...
[3:32:00 PM] eeyore: to me that doesnt make much sense
[3:32:02 PM] lycaeus: that is suspicious
[3:32:36 PM] lycaeus: well with my current beliefs, i expect i may die too soon
[3:32:49 PM] lycaeus: i ust want to know what's going on
[3:33:20 PM] lycaeus: i pray and write to 'god' for protection
[3:33:23 PM] eeyore: why is that so important to you?
[3:33:53 PM] lycaeus: can't accept this world the way it is. it doesn't make sense, it doesn't seem natural
[3:34:32 PM] eeyore: but either way your helpless, unable to do anything
[3:35:10 PM] lycaeus: i don't want to live a lie
[3:35:44 PM] eeyore: that wont change tho, you will just be aware that you live a lie, still living the lie...
[3:36:04 PM] lycaeus: being aware of the problem is the first step to solving it
[3:36:39 PM] lycaeus: if i can see where i'm living a lie then i know where to change
[3:36:48 PM] eeyore: I dont think this is something YOU can just solve ^^
[3:37:46 PM] lycaeus: what do you mean? we're all trapped in an illusion with no escape?
[3:38:56 PM] eeyore: let me ask this, will you stop working? will you stop shopping? will you stop following the law?
[3:39:11 PM] eeyore: cause I dont think you will
[3:39:28 PM] lycaeus: i've thought about it a lot
[3:39:38 PM] eeyore: to live the lie is your only option
[3:39:57 PM] lycaeus: i could make enough money by playing guitar on the streets...
[3:40:12 PM] lycaeus: i've broken the law plenty of times
[3:40:32 PM] lycaeus: the thing is how will i keep myself warm and fed without working?
[3:41:07 PM] lycaeus: are you talking about preparing for the future?
[3:42:02 PM] eeyore: nah im trying to lower your expectations, because the truth doesnt set you free, just makes you aware, which is not always so good and fun...
[3:42:29 PM] eeyore: I do not lead a good life
[3:42:39 PM] eeyore: in fact, im quite misserable
[3:42:54 PM] lycaeus: u seemed so happy in your pictures
[3:43:34 PM] eeyore: im a good pretender, its very important that i keep a low profile and appear normal
[3:43:48 PM] lycaeus: i see
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[8:33:34 PM] lycaeus: i used to think narin was heling you out of comassion and love
...
[8:34:29 PM] eeyore: I do think i have greater control over my emotions then the average person
[8:34:46 PM] lycaeus: seems that way...
[8:35:03 PM] eeyore: but tbh, its been such an hell for me

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 04:16 AM

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[8:44:23 PM] eeyore: from my experience i would say, you'd know when something takes over...
[8:44:31 PM] eeyore: there is no question about that
[8:44:42 PM] eeyore: but i dont know if this is so for everyone
[8:46:01 PM] lycaeus: thats interesting because it reminds me of what ive been thinking a lot about lately. the idea of inorganic beings influencing humans without them knowing it. some call them etheric arasites, ghost aliens, demons...
[8:46:41 PM] lycaeus: i susect that these influences contribute to a lot of addictiions and comulsive behaviour as well as sychoathy
[8:46:43 PM] ian.veenendaal: heheh humans really like to label things...
[8:47:22 PM] lycaeus: i know, call it something and ut it into a box so you never wonder about anything, and life gets dull
[8:48:34 PM] lycaeus: whether or not the belief is true, i know that when i believe strange forces are influencing me that i question my thoughts and imulses... makes me a better erson, even if its a stuid belief
[8:49:48 PM] eeyore: yea but i would argue, isnt that grandure? self importance? why would anything want to influence you? why are you so special?
[8:50:14 PM] lycaeus: i definitely ask myself that question fairly often
[8:50:18 PM] eeyore: this i ask myself also
[8:51:26 PM] lycaeus: it is an ego tr. men like to create drama and suerstitions to be ignorant of the emtiness inside
[8:51:50 PM] lycaeus: but
[8:52:53 PM] lycaeus: according to this theory, it is the emotional energy, or life force, or sexual force, some call it, that these beings are feeding on. this would exlain why we are conditioned to be so emotional, sexual and run around generating this energy
[8:53:26 PM] lycaeus: not cuz were secial, we just give off heat
[8:53:27 PM] eeyore: thats ********
[8:53:56 PM] eeyore: why would it teach me? prepare me? defend me?
[8:54:13 PM] eeyore: makes no sense if i was only food
[8:54:37 PM] lycaeus: its not black and white. youre an excetion
[8:54:43 PM] eeyore: and why teach me to control emotions if thats what it feeds on
[8:55:02 PM] eeyore: i dont buy it for a second
[8:55:47 PM] lycaeus: your exerience is not exlained by this, but other exeriences may be. in your case it is definitely not what im thinking about
[8:56:37 PM] lycaeus: when you say ********, do you suose that there are NO ghost beings feeding on energy
[8:56:42 PM] eeyore: im pretty sure theres no beings feeding of emotions
[8:57:06 PM] lycaeus: hmm ok
[8:57:19 PM] lycaeus: Marcy said this as well
[8:58:05 PM] eeyore: emotions was a simple by product of how they engineered us, later it became and easy tool to control and devide us
[8:58:46 PM] eeyore: in fact, theres quite some alien races who are stunned and baffeld by the concept of emotions
[8:59:02 PM] lycaeus: yeah that comes u a lot in the research
[8:59:21 PM] lycaeus: do you value emotions
[8:59:54 PM] eeyore: im conflicted about it
[9:00:41 PM] lycaeus: makes two of us... i had to disciline myself to socialize by being more emotional instead of analytical, or else id have no friends
[9:03:16 PM] eeyore: I seen the alternative, experienced it, its wonderful and great, perfect world, effective and efficient, fair... but on the other hand, im still human and we humans are VERY attached to our emotions... I dont think we could do without, and do believe that our emotions are what makes us human... I do think however that we could strive to control them WAY more like I have done... but completely do without them? nah i doubt this will happen anytime soon...
[9:04:20 PM] lycaeus: i cringe when i read about futures with no human emotions.
[9:04:52 PM] eeyore: its odd tho, when giving the choice, perfection or flawed we choose flawed
[9:05:15 PM] eeyore: while we are in an endless persuit of perfection
[9:06:37 PM] lycaeus: we all have different ideas of erfection, some include more emotions than others. i definitely agree about control over them. i talk often about channeling begative emotions into activities like exercise and writing music. exercise makes you stronger. and music becomes more alive and assionate
[9:06:50 PM] eeyore: also, we will never reach that state of perfection without giving up on emotions...
[9:07:35 PM] eeyore: what you say is not really control is it?
[9:08:08 PM] lycaeus: kinda, i mean control in how we exress them, without ignoring them
[9:08:24 PM] eeyore: you have an unwanted emotion and you found a way to deal with it, but to control your emotions you need to control whether or not you will have that emotion in the first place
[9:08:47 PM] lycaeus: ive been thinking about this
[9:09:55 PM] lycaeus: i write a lot about what triggers me. and it comes down to not feeling hay or getting what i want. all emotions are desires. so that is why i think acceting things is a good strategy
[9:11:32 PM] lycaeus: easier said than done. its tricky cuz i feel like i dont have control of when to exect them. i often blame the challenges in life on others who created this world before me, but its not their fault
[9:13:04 PM] lycaeus: emotions have given us the fuel to accomlish some of our best.
[9:14:15 PM] lycaeus: i feel like im in constant battle with negative feelings, do you know what i mean. i feel strong and confident when i dont indulge in them
[9:15:12 PM] eeyore: [9:13 PM] lycaeus:

<<< emotions have given us the fuel to accomlish some of our best.But also our wose...
[9:15:34 PM] eeyore: worse
[9:16:49 PM] lycaeus: yes its true. i wonder if we can ever have the good without the bad
[9:16:58 PM] eeyore: nope
[9:17:00 PM] eeyore: like i said
[9:17:14 PM] eeyore: we would have to give up on emotions all together
[9:17:39 PM] eeyore: like i said
[9:17:43 PM] eeyore: theres no good or bad
[9:17:48 PM] eeyore: same goes for emotions
[9:18:01 PM] lycaeus: just leasure and ain
[9:18:05 PM] eeyore: you cant select just few emotions, its a package deal
[9:18:20 PM] lycaeus: true
[9:18:27 PM] eeyore: you either have them or you dont
[9:19:30 PM] lycaeus: romance, and overly emotional eole are retty damn ridiculous when you look at the situation.
[9:20:01 PM] eeyore: that goes for any emotion really...

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 04:18 AM

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[9:29:40 PM] lycaeus: i think if i had a better idea of the future i would be more motivated to change faster. but all i have to go on is faith, i dont know much
[9:30:42 PM] eeyore: I dont think you change faster, in fact, i think you wouldnt even bother...
[9:30:42 PM] eeyore: also
[9:30:57 PM] eeyore: all i ever had to go on was faith too
[9:32:12 PM] eeyore: like i said, whatever is "helping" me could be just pulling my leg, or lying, or ******* with me, or use me, or whatever
[9:32:35 PM] lycaeus: hey if it works it works
[9:32:49 PM] eeyore: how do you know if it works?
[9:33:33 PM] lycaeus: if you notice yourself becoming stronger, then it works, as a good influence
[9:33:57 PM] eeyore: ive never been weaker in my life...
[9:34:47 PM] lycaeus: i thought the oint was to make you resilient through chaos, and hel others survive
[9:35:10 PM] eeyore: yup
[9:36:06 PM] lycaeus: i dont know why you would be weak.. maybe hysically weak temorarily. but your mind has imroved and your self control has imroves as result of your interactions with it no
[9:36:36 PM] eeyore: my mind is as strong as ever yes
[9:36:48 PM] eeyore: but its also very tired
[9:36:52 PM] eeyore: im tired
[9:36:58 PM] eeyore: my body is done
[9:37:00 PM] eeyore: and gone
[9:37:11 PM] lycaeus: are you sick
[9:37:53 PM] eeyore: according to the hospitals im as healthy as can be... however i cant even walk 1 hour
[9:38:21 PM] eeyore: when i say i suffer i do mean suffer...
[9:38:40 PM] lycaeus: man that sucks
[9:39:18 PM] eeyore: this year alone, i had 3 moments where it brought me so far down that i litterly danced with death
[9:39:43 PM] lycaeus: wow. what do you think its from
[9:39:49 PM] eeyore: there where weeks i did not think i would live to see 2013...
[9:40:21 PM] lycaeus: thats very strange
[9:40:32 PM] eeyore: not really
[9:41:48 PM] eeyore: what do you expect from hell? walk in the park? no, what ive been through, i wish nobody and was the low point of my life but i also realize that the future will be equally hard
[9:42:26 PM] eeyore: atm my body functions at 25% give or take
[9:42:50 PM] eeyore: last year i had periods where my body functioned less then 2%
[9:43:03 PM] eeyore: thats when it gets really scary...
[9:43:58 PM] eeyore: I find out that everything under 5% is very scary and very deadly, i would call it at deaths doorstep
[9:44:22 PM] eeyore: 5-10% is still very nerv wrecking
[9:45:15 PM] eeyore: yea... below 5%, you wonder if you make it through the night...
[9:46:27 PM] lycaeus: i feel for ya. jesus christ thats intense. is it from stress on the body or from stressful simulation training. . the email about your trainings really was hell
[9:47:18 PM] eeyore: I serieusly would give myself a 50/50 chance that i would be dead within 2 years right now... just dead because of unexplained causes... no accident
[9:47:45 PM] lycaeus: maybe somethings trying to wie you off the gameboard
[9:48:12 PM] eeyore: maybe or maybe this is just part of the program
[9:48:34 PM] lycaeus: could be
[9:49:05 PM] lycaeus: maybe its rearing you getting you ready
[9:50:35 PM] eeyore: its funny tho, been to every doctor, even in germany... done every possible test, been through every machine, gave liters of blood for testing they even took pieces of my organs out of my body to check it... and what did they all come up with? ziltch, nada, nothing
[9:51:08 PM] lycaeus: the wonders of modern medicine...
[9:52:13 PM] eeyore: well my training is very heavy and im under a lot of stress too and maybe this is just part of the training... i dont know
[9:53:04 PM] eeyore: I know this tho, if something happens tomorrow, i wont be able to survive even 1 day....
[9:53:58 PM] lycaeus: thats scary. im curious, what kind of training do you do most often, daily disciplines?
[9:54:20 PM] eeyore: dreams...
[9:54:26 PM] eeyore: they are the most taxing...
[9:55:37 PM] lycaeus: i see. im trying to get to the point where i am lucid in my dreams. maybe ill meet someone or see a new world
[9:55:53 PM] eeyore: the dream concept is so fasinating tho, the scify applications for far far away future are endless
[9:57:11 PM] eeyore: I could see people no longer go to school, you go to bed and sleep to learn, you wake up and you can work or do whatever
[9:58:27 PM] lycaeus: yeah ive heard quite a few people talk about interacting with teachers from other worlds in dreams. i got to the point last week in my dreams, where puppets were flying in the sky and i said 'this isnt real'. i had a little bit of lucidity
[9:58:51 PM] lycaeus: i get a lot of creative ideas from dreams too
[9:58:57 PM] eeyore: there is no interacting with the teachers...
[9:59:06 PM] eeyore: also
[9:59:15 PM] eeyore: there is no need to be lucid [really? you'd think lucidity in dreaming is a good thing...]
[10:00:28 PM] lycaeus: so its just straight dreams. i wonder if someone is popping them in your head like a movie player... i feel ive experienced a lot of amazing things in dreams, but its stored deep in memory.
[10:01:09 PM] eeyore: ive mostly used it to learn about myself and do senario simulations
[10:01:23 PM] eeyore: narin makes the dreams and the senarios etc
[10:01:28 PM] eeyore: i just partake
[10:01:41 PM] lycaeus: interesting
[10:02:14 PM] lycaeus: the dreams wouldaffect your character, even if you dont remember them
[10:02:33 PM] eeyore: its amazing how much you dont know about yourself
[10:02:53 PM] lycaeus: dreams say a lot
[10:03:00 PM] eeyore: this is just as important as controling your emotions
[10:03:28 PM] lycaeus: i try to be objective with myself and aware of my actions and what makes me tick
[10:03:29 PM] eeyore: truely knowing one self
[10:03:43 PM] eeyore: yea but thats not the same
[10:03:45 PM] eeyore: i mean
[10:04:05 PM] eeyore: nobody knows what he will do in certain situations untill they are in it
[10:04:09 PM] eeyore: i mean
[10:04:12 PM] eeyore: for example
[10:04:24 PM] eeyore: lets say theres a hungry group of lions
[10:04:33 PM] eeyore: and the only thing you got is a little girl
[10:05:16 PM] eeyore: do you use her as bait to escape? do you try to save her life of the cost of your own? maybe do somethng else? and remember this is a split second descision
[10:05:45 PM] eeyore: you can think you know what you do
[10:05:46 PM] lycaeus: the only way to know is to constantly test yourself
[10:05:47 PM] eeyore: but you dont
[10:06:12 PM] eeyore: only when in the situation you will truely learn about yourself and what you do
[10:06:47 PM] eeyore: my dreams have showed me so much that i didnt expect or knew about myself
[10:07:04 PM] lycaeus: i wish i could do simulation training

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 04:18 AM

[10:07:04 PM] lycaeus: i wish i could do simulation training
[10:07:18 PM] eeyore: it has its downsides...
[10:07:38 PM] eeyore: its hard work, and no rest
[10:07:38 PM] eeyore: no break
[10:07:42 PM] eeyore: no holiday
[10:07:51 PM] eeyore: very confronting
[10:08:45 PM] lycaeus: still i would like it ver much. i already have challenges, it would be more efficient to make them bigger and learn faster through dreams
[10:09:19 PM] eeyore: the run/hide/fight mechanic is really burned into my skull
[10:10:18 PM] eeyore: 4 out of 7 week days im in future senarios where i struggle to survive
[10:10:31 PM] eeyore: fighting for my live, running for my life, hiding for my life...
[10:10:47 PM] eeyore: making mistakes is REALLY painful
[10:11:23 PM] lycaeus: and its made you a damn fine survivor, yet you are sick
[10:12:23 PM] eeyore: i can honestly say that i worked... people around me really say i think and plan too much... even for easy tasks etc... because for me, ive been trained that there is no such thing as easy and that you ALWAYS have to be prepared! not being prepared is such a fail...
[10:13:20 PM] eeyore: but this makes me very out of place in this time
[10:13:27 PM] lycaeus: which is why i bug you so much about what to prepare for.
[10:13:34 PM] eeyore: cause my mindset is for the future, it has little place for today
[10:13:46 PM] lycaeus: ah now i know what you mean by that
[10:14:11 PM] lycaeus: i know you've told me cannibalism wiill be the norm
[10:14:41 PM] eeyore: when i look around i see all this people, this scares me... in future there are not that many people and they are rather a threat then anything else...
[10:15:00 PM] eeyore: but today this is not yet the case
[10:15:02 PM] eeyore: but for me it is
[10:15:12 PM] eeyore: so this is a problem for me
[10:15:24 PM] eeyore: i do not do well in larger groups nomore
[10:16:02 PM] eeyore: im like a wild animal scared of people :P
[10:16:16 PM] lycaeus: lol
[10:16:31 PM] eeyore: weird part is, im very good with people tho... i can be very social
[10:16:39 PM] eeyore: but the training....
[10:17:01 PM] lycaeus: thats what messes you up
[10:18:37 PM] lycaeus: you know the main thing that gets me through the fear of a possible doomsday that i think about too much, is the idea that i will live on after this life.. i even have a birth mark on my wedding finger and the psychic told me i burnt my ring into my hand. so i believe in reincarnation and that all will be okay when i die
[10:19:28 PM] lycaeus: almost like ive given up on survival and just accepting my death so i can live the way i want.
[10:19:38 PM] eeyore: tbh, im not cool with death at ALL
[10:19:49 PM] lycaeus: u said u know what happens when we die
[10:19:56 PM] eeyore: sure
[10:20:03 PM] eeyore: doesnt mean i have to like it
[10:21:01 PM] eeyore: ive been at deaths doorstep like 3 times this year and let me tell you, every cell in my body wanted to live! I do NOT want to die! in fact if i could be immortal I would sign up!
[10:21:45 PM] lycaeus: because you're trained to survive or for the love of llife?
[10:22:50 PM] eeyore: i used to think i was okay with death... but once you there, no, **** that, im not cool with death, i want to live! and that comming from a guy who suffers every single day :P
[10:23:17 PM] eeyore: because im not done here
[10:23:30 PM] eeyore: I havent really lived
[10:23:34 PM] eeyore: I have yet much to do
[10:23:56 PM] eeyore: ******* dissapointment if i would die now
[10:23:57 PM] eeyore: trained for nothing
[10:24:05 PM] eeyore: taken for a fool
[10:24:09 PM] eeyore: accomplished nothing
[10:24:39 PM] lycaeus: same here. i dont want my life cut short, but it might. it hurts to think that i won't live a good life when im older
[10:26:01 PM] lycaeus: theres not too much i can do. i can take your advice, but i wont have the abilities you have. seems pointless, but i will keep striving anyways
[10:26:36 PM] eeyore: you dont need abilities
[10:26:40 PM] eeyore: you need will
[10:26:55 PM] lycaeus: i know
[10:27:16 PM] lycaeus: i think about that the first time you told me that every single day
[10:27:59 PM] lycaeus: but about death, i mean the afterlife, not the pain of physically dying
[10:28:04 PM] eeyore: how you deal with setbacks is key
[10:29:00 PM] eeyore: which also seems key in my sickness
[10:29:14 PM] eeyore: i get a bit better and then BAM setback
[10:29:25 PM] lycaeus: story of my life lol
[10:29:45 PM] eeyore: after i fought inch by inch for that little improvement with 1 blow back where i started
[10:29:49 PM] eeyore: and this over and over
[10:30:17 PM] eeyore: while feeling physically tired, exausted, dying
[10:30:39 PM] eeyore: still i get up and go again
[10:31:01 PM] lycaeus: reminds me of my guitar teacher
[10:31:23 PM] lycaeus: his whole life he beat the worst odds
[10:31:49 PM] lycaeus: was very much into strengthening the will and going well beyond people
[10:33:15 PM] lycaeus: he couldnt get out of bed 90% of the time for years. he was a very strong, hard worker, always extremely motivated, and had a dream where men were carrying him and dropped him. he woke up in constant pain for years. he was struggling to walk inch by inch down the street screaming im gonn walk if it kills me
[10:33:51 PM] lycaeus: and the amount of patience he displayed with me during my teen years is just noble
[10:34:45 PM] lycaeus: i would have so little if it weren't for his influence. i'd most likely be dead several years ago
[10:36:07 PM] lycaeus: i know how to live, i know what to do. i think talking about death and a fantasy future (to me) is a waste of time. i trust that something higher than me is assisting me
[10:37:22 PM] eeyore: yea i admire that, i see this with more people... Its hard for me as i only have narin... I dont look up to any human... no rolemodels, nothing...

Doc

02-25-2013, 03:43 PM

lycaeus

02-25-2013, 11:31 PM

It would be interesting if you could give some of the details Carissa Conti pointed out in her email that she thought were indications of something wrong.
I started making notes from the long email she sent me, but I ended up almost rewriting it word for word and what she said makes more sense if just kept together in the single email. So I asked her if it's okay to post it and will do if she says it's okay. I hope so, because Eeyore talked to many people online he told me, telling them the same things he was telling me. So I'm guessing there are many 'Eeyores' out there, talking to a lot of people in total. Maybe someone out there who is being fed that crap, and influenced in a negative way like I was could benefit from me posting about it here. Especially if Carissa's email was posted, it would be very helpful I think.

It seems from the narrative here that you saw through this person or his story some time ago. How important is this to you today? Or is this more of an academic or intellectual analysis?
I talked to him on and off for the past 6/7 years. Just infrequent chats that would last a long time usually, not every day. Most of the time he wouldn't respond. I didn't actually start seeing through his story until this past October.

It's very important to me that, as Buddhists would say, that I 'killed the Buddha'. Meaning that I had a guru/authority figure that I worshipped and was able to see through him and make my own decisions. See, this guy had been my 'friend' through the confusing teenage years of looking into conspiracies, alienology and metaphysics... woo woo stuff in general. I just accepted that he was in contact with a higher, positive force so I mostly believed everything he told me. I was skeptical, doubtful yes, but I had an emotional thing with him. I felt special to be associated with him, even privileged that he would even talk to me. So I set him up as an authority while he belittled my confidence. As contradictory as he was, I swallowed it because I looked up to him and 'Narin' and thought their ideas were more wise, and I was dumb.

But his talk of the future drove me nuts. In a few years I was supposed to be ready to live out of a backpack, avoid surviving people and have faith in their 'script' as he called it. He said it wasn't an agenda. He stressed the importance of staying away from all surviving people for at least 30 days after 'the big event' which he never explained. I was left confused and frustrated. It bugged me every day. He pretty much programmed me to expect the worst bloodbath imaginable was set in stone and that there was no positive future to hope for. I became very depressed and cynical as a result, all the while envying Eeyore and Narin's relationship, wondering why I wasn't special enough for contact and proper guidance. It bothered me that he had this intense survival training and I felt I had no hope. It always pissed me off how he wouldn't explain much or be of practical help. He just kept leading me on, probably reveling in the attention/power I gave to him. So I desperately looked to him for answers though I shouldn't have. I just dismissed all the heavy research, reading I did and took his/their word as the truth.

I'm sure he is thoroughly trained to survive in the worst of scenarios. He is probably a puppet unfortunately. He compromised his soul and said he is dying now, and it bothers him a lot no doubt. But he stressed me out way too much. It was driving me nuts feeling helpless that doomsday was around the corner. So waking up a little and seeing a bigger picture that includes positive outcomes was a huge relief for me. I couldn't write off what he said for some reason, I guess it was my own immaturity. So Carissa's perspective helped a lot. Sometimes you need a neutral third-party for their input to see more clearly. And again, a lot of the times I was talking to him were when I was in very poor conditions in life, surrounded by criminals, psychopaths, all around bombardment by negative influences, getting very little sleep, being drunk and high all the time and feeling very alone. It creeps me out to look back on all the negative people and situations that surrounded me while I thought Eeyore was a positive light in my life. I badly wanted to believe that someone or something was looking out for me, that had the answers, and Eeyore and 'Narin' fit the bill. So I had an emotional pattern with him, strengthened through all those years. But it was delusion, desperation really.

So it was definitely more of a personal, emotional revelation, than a more neutral/objective, detached academic or intellectual exercise. It felt really good to throw his philosophy out the window. It haunted me for years, especially with the threats of death to not say anything or talk to anyone, even on the internet. I couldn't even talk to friends or family about what was specifically, really bringing me down all the time.

But I could be very thoughtful and intelligent throughout the time talking to him, discerning with things in my life during the years we talked. It's strange why I would just swallow his words. There are 2 factors going on in this regard. 1) my gullibility, immature naivety, emotional and ego weak points and 2) the possibility that whatever Ian was contacted by was psychically influencing me.

Number 2 is kinda crazy, but I definitely consider it. Especially with all the evidence that ET go to great lengths to manipulate people. It's funny how I get a strange mark on my body right at the time when I am reading heavily Fore's stuff. Apparently a lot of people get neg. interference and visitations when learning what they don't want you to know, esp. what Fore says. So who knows the possibilities.

I think the reason I am more open to far-out woo-woo ideas like hyperdimensional alien manipulation is because I grew up reading Michael Tsarion and Montalk. I never had a set role in life, like a career or identity for the most part that didn't involve 'matrix conspiracy philosophies' because I grew up with it in my teens. It still baffles me why others AND myself have trouble even considering the reality of aliens and abductions. So the logical conclusion I make imo is that advanced mind control is going on. I guess it would be harder for a different kind of person to accept because they would have a lot more to lose. Like someone who grew up, had a career, family and wonderful life just learning about conspiracies for the first time... that would be pretty damn hard hard to deal with.

lycaeus

02-26-2013, 06:07 AM

I went ahead and made a list of the relevant points in the email that helped me out. It's more concise and to-the-point than a personal email. I probably should have been paying more attention too as it wasn't really necessary to name names. So I hope that she doesn't get bugged or attacked about anything she mentioned. It would have been easier to keep it anonymous but I wasn't really thinking. Anyways, I agree with it all, here's the ideas that helped me see through Eeyore's words:

Points made regarding Eeyore possibly being a negative influence:

-Eeyore reached out to me first

-He doesn't seem to be helping me prepare for anything in a practical and useful way

-Seems he's getting my emotions all riled up with no outlet

-He approached me to influence my life only to skip over most of what I say and give shallow, one-word answers

-He doesn't answer or address pretty much 3/4 of the things I say

-Eeyore's probably not lying about having a contact that says they're from M45, but what this/these entity/entities really are remains to be seen

-It could be mind control programming/experimentation,

-could be actual entities from M45,

-could be entities from an interdimensional location claiming to be in outer space because it has a more manipulative effect

-John Keel's work indicates a lot of alien contacts/channeled entities pull people's legs by describing their location as an actual space location, like Andromeda, M45, Orion

-Eeyore displays a bemused, 'eye-rolling' and 'I'm dissapointed in you' parental tone

-He is quick to accuse me of having 'my head shrouded in myst', 'in a thick fog' even thought he's the one talking to supposed space aliens

-the fact Eeyore went along with these entities and believe them shows that he's not as smart as he's posturing himself to be

-it sounds like he sold his soul, especially when he talks about the being taking over his body, and says 'It owns my ass' (very demonic)

-possession is a majorly bad indicator of what he's really involved in

-it's clear Eeyore relishes the fact that this powerful force 'owns his ass' and can scare big dogs off and such. so he was probably fooled into falling for them/it thereby selling his soul

-Eeyore suggests that the beings causing negative interference in my life are good guys, 'my allies' (that I should think of them as my allies)..[she doesn't omit the possibility of interference from 'good guys, but from what I described, it doesn't sound like what was going on in my life]...

-she references her 'Interference' article and notes that the experiences I described indicate negative interference. like how people in my life seem to be negative interference for the purposes of derailing someone who seems to have a lot of potential. (I mentioned how MANY people in my life strongly encouraging drug use, my mother as a source of distressing psychopathic abuse and being surrounded by negative influences and empty shells. I described some of my life and it looks like people really tried (unconsciously most of the time) to bring me down...'What positive higher forces want their underlings up in the drug scene?' she said

-Eeyore thinks the 'baddies' would simply take me out, so my interference must be positive becoz I'm still alive...(!?) (she is frustrated with the things said by Eeyore)

-in her understanding, that is not how reality works. bad guys can't just kill you.

-he inverts/twists things around, effecting a calm, nonchalant, flippant, confident 'sobriety' that makes it sound totally believable

-sees a negative disinfo twist to basically everything he tells me examples:

-his story of 'the true origins of mankind',

-that we are completely controlled and just pawns,

-that 'there's no way in hell' these 'Masters' can be defeated,

-the doomsday talk with no tangible/practical help or solutions,

-that Man is simply a cancer on the planet,

-he says we can never achieve perfection unless we lose our emotions,

-that 'there is no good or bad/evil,

-how he tells me that it's a good thing that negative interference 'keeps me down because I keep popping my head up above the trenches'

-^^^^those ways of thinking steer you in the direction of feeling powerless, helpless and miserable about yourself and your species as well as making one more confused, self-doubting and in the dark about what's really going on

-she met someone who could tap into 'some source' that said the same thing as Eeyore: that the negative interference is actually from a higher positive source (lol)

-'humans are a cancer' is a typical negative agenda meme you hear especially from dark entities that hate humans (even though many communities on earth have/live harmoniously with their emotions and all. but they tend to skip over that part like Eeyore)

-Eeyore seems dismissive, arrogant by answering me with things like 'nope' with no explanations

-it shows I've mistakenly put him above me (^^^^)

lycaeus

02-26-2013, 06:09 AM

Points made regarding Eeyore possibly being a negative influence, continued...

-he says next to nothing at all and doesn't seem to know as much as he wants me to think (a lot of unconfident people fall for that [like me])

-I make comments that show I doubt myself, putting myself down, subjugating myself even when he negates something that might be true

-makes more sense now that she knows I met him when I was 16 (approx) and I [was] only 21

-I even admit that he intimidates me. he probably senses that and plays into it

-would be interesting if I appeared equally confident and put pressure on him by asking questions and demanding answers of real substance rather than doubting myself

-possibly sought me out as a young impressionable, confused soul seeking a teacher he could pose as and posture himself over me

-I do about 80% of the talking while he's a minimalist

-he (or whatever is working through him) may be waiting for me to say something that indicates I'm on the right path so he can divert me off track (just a possibility) while he skips over the rest

-good possibility I am projecting onto him what I want him to be due to the lack of people to talk to in my life, and not seeing who he actually is

-sometimes being a 'minimalist' is masking one's lack of knowledge

-good example of him ignoring and diverting attention from explaining certain things:

[7:57:30 PM] lycaeus: i should be more specific. what i'm asking is what can you tell me of your knowledge that might help me prepare, or have a greater understanding of where we're going with all the crazy things going on in the world. there's this anxiety in a lot of people about the future, and so many people are getting excited about doomsday and end of the world. i figure you're the guy to talk to for advice
[7:59:56 PM] eeyore: i hate it when people use the wrong terms like "the end of the world"
[8:01:39 PM] lycaeus: me too. that phrase can mean so many different things, but it does give an idea of a big change into something new
[8:02:08 PM] eeyore: not really
[8:02:17 PM] eeyore: it only shows ignorance

-it's evident in the conversations I shared that he arrogantly seems to be the only one who knows what's going on and everyone else is misinformed. getting an ego-kick out of it

-the 'there is no good/evil' concepts are Satanic and his contact seems dark and emotionless

-good and evil is an unmistakable reality. (she then explains and gives examples)

-Eeyore may or may not be knowingly pulling me down into a negative direction away from correct positive ways of thinking, though he did knock on my door first...

-possibility that forces using, working through him by his own admission are using him as a means to connect to me

-I've had negative interference before, so this might be another example. not that I'm special or anything but who knows down the line, in the future

-people like me who look for answers regarding the matrix and such and tend to attract negative attention

-Eeyore likes to burst my bubble by reminding me of my 'insifnificance'. but then why is this 'chess game' (as he says) even being played? With forces interfering in people's lives? we must count for something

-there may be an agenda working through him (knowingly or not). which would explain him skipping over a lot of what I say, and then seemingly chuckle and divert.

example of me talking about negative forces and the importance of questioning your impulses and eeyore diverting by calling me egotistical (grandeur):

[8:46:01 PM] lycaeus: thats interesting because it reminds me of what ive been thinking a lot about lately. the idea of inorganic beings influencing humans without them knowing it. some call them etheric arasites, ghost aliens, demons...
[8:46:41 PM] lycaeus: i susect that these influences contribute to a lot of addictiions and comulsive behaviour as well as sychoathy
[8:46:43 PM] lycaeus: heheh humans really like to label things...
[8:47:22 PM] lycaeus: i know, call it something and ut it into a box so you never wonder about anything, and life gets dull
[8:48:34 PM] lycaeus: whether or not the belief is true, i know that when i believe strange forces are influencing me that i question my thoughts and imulses... makes me a better erson, even if its a stuid belief
[8:49:48 PM] eeyore: yea but i would argue, isnt that grandure? self importance? why would anything want to influence you? why are you so special?

-advice: don't let him divert you so much

-he may have to keep secrets about sensitive info. but then again why'd he reach out to me in the first place and offer to teach me. a bit screwy when you think about it

-if he doesn't want to answer he could just say he's not allowed to say instead of diverting the subject and inserting a negating, subjugating comment that makes you feel small

-eeyore assumes there is only one negative force at work here. evidence of his flawed thinking:

[8:52:53 PM] lycaeus: according to this theory, it is the emotional energy, or life force, or sexual force, some call it, that these beings are feeding on. this would exlain why we are conditioned to be so emotional, sexual and run around generating this energy
[8:53:26 PM] lycaeus: not cuz were secial, we just give off heat
[8:53:27 PM] eeyore: thats ********
[8:53:56 PM] eeyore: why would it teach me? prepare me? defend me?
[8:54:13 PM] eeyore: makes no sense if i was only food
[8:54:37 PM] lycaeus: its not black and white. youre an excetion
[8:54:43 PM] eeyore: and why teach me to control emotions if thats what it feeds on
[8:55:02 PM] eeyore: i dont buy it for a second

-^^^he's obv not as smart as he thinks he is. he even admitted there are different groups with different agendas, so just because he doesn't think his source is feeding on him, he thinks this is an impossibility. he's not open-minded about things

-in her experience there clearly are entities that feed on 'loosh' (emotional/sexual energy)

-Tom (Montalk)'s thoughts on the matter after talking to him and showing him the convos I sent:

"[Eeyore] has been contacted at some point by these entities that claim to be from M45 but who are likely not.* It's basically stringing him along by feeding a false story with some elements of truth in order to gain total control over him.** This wouldn't be the first time that this has happened, it's quite common.* The entity's using the same methods every time, except giving a slightly different story.* But the end result is always the same, the methods are always the same.** It uses telepathy and dream manipulation and in some cases voices, but not always.* [Eeyore] is in turn stringing [lycaeus] along and he doesn't know as much as he's making himself out to be.* And instead of admitting that, he deflects questions and plays things down without giving reasons, because he doesn't actually know.* He's trying to maintain his image.* [Eeyore] has become a puppet/vector of this force.* He can be used by these same entities to go after other people that they need to try to get under control, like [lycaeus].* Ultimately the guy might have some true ideas, but definitely don't take him as the ultimate authority.* So unless he's actually able to explain why a source is wrong and lay out the logic of it (versus saying "oh there's just so much to say but I can't get into it....") then don't take him too seriously.** For all you know he's just covering up the fact that he's full of ****."

-her and Tom have experienced these kinds of situations before by looking at other cases. stories about negative forces singling out people, dressing all-powerful, possessing people, inducing helplessness in contactees (of whatever it is), and eeyore's case is similar

-she admits she could be off the mark when reading into the situation, but that's what it looks like from the 3 convos I sent, and hopefully I'm not offended (I wasn't)

-contactees are told only what these beings want them to know/believe. analogy: the farmer may save the cows from sickness, but it is only for his own purposes, like if a contact helps out their contactee by giving them superhuman powers like eeyore

-no group has absolute control over everyone

lycaeus

03-14-2013, 01:01 AM

I wasn't sure if I wanted to post this. I wouldn't take it too seriously and I don't want to sound paranoid but I found a weird cut on my leg today. It goes 'in' like a scoop mark. It's a few inches away from the only other scoop mark I've ever found on my body, which appeared a few years ago (it's mostly healed and won't show up on my camera phone). I feel a bit paranoid posting this because it could easily be from the zapper (http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/zappers.html) I've been using for about 5 years. Out of the hundreds of nights I've worn the thing, always near my ankles, I've found only 2 cut marks. This was the second one. The first looked like a scoop mark and you can still feel the indentation from it. What I usually get from it though are bluish impressions in the shape of a circle from the copper parts circles.

So I don't know, but for what it's worth here are a couple of pics:

963

964

In the second picture you can see the circles I usually get, but this is only the second time I've found a small, cut there. You would think the mark would be as big as the copper circles if it was the zapper. I've thought that if it were from an abduction, the place to take a skin sample would be where I put the zapper. That way I would think that's all it is. I don't know though, and I'm not going to worry about it.

My dream last night: I'm swimming in a river or lake with a cute girl. Then we're with others behind a house viewing the backyard and talking about using the gardening space. I am talking to a rich guy inside the house. There are some people around, normal expensive house. I talk about my moving in there. Then I'm out front with a weird looking guy shooting hoops or throwing a football (foggy). He has a weird, whitish, tanned-dark-skinned face, like when you pull the skin of a puppy's face forward, but normal enough. eyes close together, stocky body, kind of bland personality. Then I have a flashing* [not sure why I wrote that. I was sleepy] bird's-eye view of what I thought was Miami. I was flying above the nice houses and swimming pools. Then I am doing chin/'waist-ups' on a bar at a beach boardwalk. Then I'm walking through an American mall or busy building and almost bump into a tense guy. That's all I remember.

CasperParks

03-14-2013, 02:59 AM

lycaeus

03-14-2013, 03:11 AM

Ha! I hope that's my future. It's freezing up here in the winter, and summer, while really hot, is not long enough. I've been to Florida once and never wanted to leave.

lycaeus

03-14-2013, 03:20 AM

Casper, I forgot to ask you. Did any of those future glimpses you are talking about actually come true? And if they did, what was most startling?

Castael

03-14-2013, 03:24 AM

G'day, Lycaeus. I feel like Dan Mitchell by returning to this forum after I signed off. Maybe since it's a different thread, it doesn't count? :) In any case, I came back because I read your post and was concerned for your safety.

I've seen those marks before. Had 'em myself a couple times. They are in fact what you think they are. I believe you're being targeted because of your activity on this forum. All you have to do to draw the attention of the "things" is to talk about them, write about them, think about them. Add to that their symbiotic relationship with menacing people like DM and eeyore, and there's the connection. They come like moths to a flame.

Are you familiar with the concept of "bots"? Look it up on wikipedia. Basically they're automated programs or routines that can be turned loose on the web to seek, retrieve, infect, harass, etc. They can be designed to cue on certain tags. Firewall software is somewhat but not totally effective.

Now, imagine that as a metaphor for occult aggression. All a "spell" or "charm" or "hoodoo" is, is a spiritual bot, activated through ritual and meditation. It wouldn't be too hard for a witch or sorceror to make the "things" manifest while you're asleep. I wonder what a video camera would have recorded in your room while the scoop marks were being made. Best guess, orbs or sparks or vapors or even shadow-type entities.

You need some defensive strategies. I haven't been on this board long enough to know how much you know, so if I patronize, it's not intentional.

Look into using salt at the entry points into your flat ... all doors and windows. Make sure the salt has been blessed by someone of true spiritual power. Likewise, down here we use Aboriginal smudge sticks to much the same end. I don't know where you live but there is likely something equivalent among the people native to your area. You also ought to wear a crucifix or cross or some other symbol of faith --- whatever yours is --- while you're vulnerable.

A couple of links to look at for ideas, if you should need them. If not, my apologies.

Smudging http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNW07FTkxsg

Salt http://oldstyleconjure.blogspot.com/2012/06/power-of-salt.html?zx=555aaef9b7a010ab

lycaeus

03-14-2013, 09:18 PM

Eh Castael nice to see ya! I've been reading a lot this winter with my time off work. Been trying to understand paranormal stuff like aliens and demons. I think part of my interest in these subjects might be because I have unconscious memories of being abducted or fed upon by psychic attackers. So it is hard to not ignore this stuff, but you need to be aware of the problems to defend yourself. The web-bot analogy is a good one. I've actually been thinking about sprinkling salt all over my room for protection. I know occult entities don't like running water too so I got two water fountains for my room, as well as lightening the vibe with incense, candles, plants, good light, an air purifier and a Vick's Vaposteam which surprisingly has good ingredients including oils that kill air-borne bacteria. I think all physical contaminants have their spiritual, occult analogues... Also been keeping busy by doing stuff that keeps up my confidence and good mood, like music and exercise.

I'm reading Dion Fortune's Psychic Self Defense and just got to the practical part of actual defense methods. I've learned about salt and smudging and crosses as protection. But I'm happy you brought it up as a reminder. I'm putting up a cross on my wall and maybe one for my lucky-penny necklace. I'm not too religious, but the crucifix does work in a lot of cases. Maybe the beliefs of so many Christians over the years has actually imbued that symbol with divine power.

I also might use this symbol, which represents the Quintessence:

965
It's an ancient symbol where we get the number 5 from. It's the 5th element, Spirit that animates all life.

I'll try Kosher salt as well. Not sure who I could have it blessed by but I'll look around.

Last week I put my jar of pennies in a bowl of vinegar to clean them. We stopped using the penny here in Canada, so I thought it was a good idea to save the copper one's (pre-1997, 95%). I was thinking of putting them in mason jars with salt water and charging the jars up with a prayer or leave them in front of a speaker playing Mozart and leave them around the room. Copper is said to be the best metal for conducting energy and salt has good qualities too as well as water. But if there is no scientific reason, then at least my belief will help.

Best to stay on the safe side. Thanks for the tips

CasperParks

03-14-2013, 09:39 PM

Yes, I wrote something about it. Will have to find and post it.

lycaeus

03-22-2013, 06:47 AM

For the record, I'm pretty sure I was psychically attacked last night. I had a couple ear ringings in the left ear before going to bed. One of them occurred at 11 11pm while reading this sentence from montalk.net:

" But just because someone looks human doesn’t mean that they psychologically and even metaphysically operate in the same manner as you do. There exists a whole sector of the human race that behaves fundamentally differently from the other half, as you may read more about in my article Spiritless Humans."

Been feeling pretty lousy this past week and I'm sure my negative energy was a factor in attracting something negative, like an astral parasite. Especially since my little relapse on the weekend which killed my energy for almost a week. Probably not the greatest thing to admit publically, but the thought of others reading that and shaking their heads encourages me to stay on the straight and narrow and not get caught up in partying just for the sake of not being alone. Much better to be alone for the right reasons, I think. Anyways, this is the weird dream I had:

R*** (old step-dad) called me in a frazzle, freaking out, totally anxious and worried about something. I was at my old house when I was 7, on ********. I was talking on the phone getting scared by a male, human ghost sitting on the couch. The house was normal as I remembered it, in the living room. I approached the ghost apprehensively and quickly dipped my hand in and out of his ethereal body a couple times. I then screamed as loud as I could and it came out falsetto, a shrilling little high-pitched girl's voice :o. That was because I saw something in the doorway at the top of the stairs :nono: , like a shadow figure or monster of some sort. Then someone, a man, picked me up from behind and dragged me to the door. I thought it was my dad at first but it wasn't. Amidst this fearful chaos I dropped the phone. R*** was on the other line already nervous and freaking out about something so now he must be more stressed since all he heard was a scream as I dropped the phone.

I woke up with my left ear ringing and my heart was pounding. I could feel the blood pumping heavily through my heart as well as my solar plexus. Maybe those are the areas where I was being drained? I don't usually wake up that way. It was about 2 hours after I fell asleep around 5 30am.

Minutes later, I close my eyes and begin to go back to sleep after I turn the lights on. Almost immediately I hear a strong ear ring in my left ear as soon as I close my eyes. That freaked me out so I turned on the laundry room lights, as hard as that is when you're half asleep. I then laid down and closed my eyes and got another left-ear-ring again! Thankfully I was tired enough and slept a good 12 hours. Though I woke up tired and exhausted for the rest of the day/evening.

The weird dream indicated to me that something odd was happening. Probably an astral parasite putting terror into my mind while I slept as it fed on me. And there's no reason I should have been so tired after all that sleep.

So today I got some Kosher Salt and blessed it in the name of Jesus, and in the name of Christ. I sprinkled it all around my room and the house. I got the doorways and windows and a perimeter around my bed as well as under the sheets. So all should be good for a while now, just gotta stay on the spiritual path and not let fear and anger creep in.

At the moment I'm listening to this awesome presentation by Michael Tsarion on Psychic Vampirism. It focuses a lot on psychology, awareness of the self, the patterns in the psyche that lead to unconscious proliferation of evil, psychological origins of evil and self-healing. It's a good, empowering balance for all the conspiratorial 'blaming' material. Also good for knowing yourself better and cleaning up your psyche, which is important if you don't want to attract negative entities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNQvkjaNQY&list=PLiW0X33OHW6PmcFgMZYiYe3E4zKC0U65v

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 01:20 PM

I want to talk a bit about humans, aliens and hybrids. It's my belief that human DNA, specifically aryan, originates off planet. Certain human bloodlines have connections to different alien groups. There are also spiritual ties that can be subconscious, that link different people to different alien groups.

My main focus right now is on the superhuman Nordic aliens we hear so much about. There is enough evidence to believe that these 'supermen' have been living on earth secretly for thousands of years. A lot of their manipulation involves disguising themselves as alien visitors (see Cryptoterrestrials by Mac Tonnies. He had a mysterious death 2 weeks before that book was to be published).

Their DNA is compatible with ours and they have interbred with us in the past so today we have, in varying degrees more or less concentrations of alien blood in certain people. And if the genes are just right, then an alien soul with ties to a certain alien agenda can incarnate into a human body and proliferate their ideologies and agenda with a spectrum of degrees of awareness as to who they are and where they come from.

I'll talk about Norse Mythology a bit, use a bunch of channeled excerpts that hint at the truth and then talk about the strange guy who adopted me in my teens.

Norse Mythology

I'm no scholar and don't know much about myths and history. But from the little bit I've read, there is a lot that points to the reality of aliens, advanced technology and hybrids.

It's full of humanlike gods. There are a lot of battles with giants who are defeated by godlike men. It relates to the history of the vikings. There are also religions based on these myths such as Odinism, which is sometimes symbolized by 'Thor's hammer' better known as the swastika or Arm and Hammer baking soda. Some people interpret this stuff crudely and conclude that war is divine based on the myths. But there is also spiritual, esoteric knowledge encoded into these myths as well. Check out this Gnostic article: http://www.vopus.org/en/gnosis/gnostic-anthropology/norse-myths-and-legends.html .

These myths strongly hint at the history of advanced technology (often called magic) and aliens and hybrids (called gods). Some of the gods are shapeshifters like Odin or Wotan/Wodan (Wednesday). The war god Odin sits in the sky and is able to view our whole world with his one single eye (Illuminati symbolism?). He has 2 ravens who fly over the earth acting as scouts or spies to collect information for him (makes me think of UFO's and alien-greys or surveillance drones).

Some of these gods are said to return to earth during or after the final battle on earth called Ragnarok (http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/norse-mythology.php?deity=ODIN).)

Some of them like Thor, have red hair like the Irish and Egyptian Pharoahs. Thor was probably a hybrid or a symbol of them because his parents were from 2 different worlds: Earth, and Asgard, which is the home of the gods. "Odin also traveled to Earth to mate with its patron goddess, Gaea, who appeared to him in her persona of Jord in order to sire a son whose power would combine that of Asgard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgard) and that of Earth. Their son was the god Thor who became champion of the gods against their enemies, the Jotuns or Giants of Jotunheim. [nephilim?] (source (http://www.angelfire.com/planet/mythguide/asgardians.html))

Thor had a hot temper and took it out on the giants. His weapen was his hammer which would produce lightning. He would throw it and it would magically return to his hands thanks to his iron gloves and his power belt. He is also known for binge eating and drinking which is understandable when you discover that these gods walked and looked like humans on earth. They looked beautiful, just like us but worlds apart in other repsects.

The gods had threatening, supernatural powers and demanded bloody human sacrifices of humans. People would hang bodies from trees, which is probably where we get the ritual of hanging christmas ornaments.

Of these 'gods' there is a mention of 2 opposing groups who went to war with each other (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86sir%E2%80%93Vanir_War): the Aesir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86sir) and the Vanir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanir). The Aesir were more war-like, male-dominated and materialistic. The Vanir were more spiritual and their wisest was a female. The Germans saved a lot of written text on the Aesir but we don't hear much about the Vanir. A lot of the times the Vanir are referred to as the Aesir because after the war, the Vanir were subsumed into the Aesir faction.

Intuitively, deep within that silent lake of the mind we have knowledge of the truth. Regarding norse mythology and aliens, it comes out in art forms. Like the TV show Stargate where norse (nordic) gods are presented as aliens. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology_in_popular_culture)

For more information on these gods I HIGHLY recommend this article: Nordic Aliens and the Grail Race (http://montalk.net/gnosis/192/6-nordic-aliens-the-grail-race).
There are a lot of good sources at the bottom of the page you can check out.

Tiamat

Also known as Marduk, Maldek, Phaeton and Kantek. This was the great planet that existed between Mars and Jupiter before it was destroyed and became the asteroid belt. It's known as an ocean planet. When it was destroyed, the earth was flooded and a lot of continents went beneath the waves.

It's interesting that a lot of Norse and Viking stories focus a lot on water and sailing seas. I think the nordic 'superhumans' at least some of them, came from this planet, as well as all the white people who suddenly popped up out of nowhere in the north on earth thousands of years ago. It's understandable that people from this planet would prefer a colder area on earth since their original home was further from the sun.

Michael Tsarion is a good source on this kind of history. He traces the bloodlines of these people scrupulously. A lot has been written about this.

Leading channeler of The Vril society Maria Orsitch channeled information from Aldebaran which contained a history of the aryan bloodline. Supposedly aryans originate from Aldebarn, but the sun was expanding so they had to leave. They moved to Tiamat and when that didn't work out they evacuated to earth. She could be nuts or non-existent, but apparently her information was pretty accurate. Hitler and other Nazi's helped her translate her messages and they got detailed instructions on how to build flying saucers, and then she disappeared off the planet. This became the Thule society.

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 01:25 PM

In secrets of the saucers contactee Orfeo Angelucci conversed with positive nordic type aliens. Neptune, his contact, revealed to him the history of earth's people and the destruction of Tiamat. When Orfeo asked about the reasons for human suffering Neptune replied:

“The answer to that question is one of the mysteries of the
illusion of Time. But I can tell you this: such conditions
did not always prevail among the entities who now
inhabit Earth. Once there was another planet in your
solar system, the fairest and most radiant of all the
planets. That planet was the original home of
Earthlings. In their native home they knew no pain,
sorrow, suffering, sickness or death. But in the glory
and wonder of their world they grew proud and
arrogant. They made war among themselves and finally
turned against the Great Giver of Life. Ultimately they
destroyed their own planet which today exists only as a
sterile and barren ring of asteriods and debris in the
solar system. In order that those entities might gain
understanding, compassion and brotherly love they
were born into the animalistic, material evolution of a
lesser planet, Earth. Suffering, sorrow, frustration and
death became their teacher. Their symbol became the
Man-Beast. Each man must work out his own destiny
and salvation. In the illusion of Time and through
repeated births and deaths each entity slowly and
painfully evolves spiritually toward its former glorified
state of divinity. Eventually all the entities of Earth will
again attain their lost heritage. They will have learned
understanding, compassion and true love for God and
their fellows.”

There is also a lot of interesting information given by the Cassiopaeans via ouija board regarding Tiamat/Kantek:

Session 941007:
Q: (L) What is the origin of the Aryan race?
A: 5th planet now know as asteroid belt.
Q: (L) When did they come to earth?
A: 80 thousand years ago? Difficult for us to use your measuring system.
Q: (L) Were they similar in form and structure to what they are now?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why is it that our scientists have not been able to uncover evidence of such ancient existence?
A: They have. Do not want to acknowledge it.
Q: (L) Where do the Celts come from?
A: Same. Ferocious people. Came from fifth planet.
Q: (L) When was that planet destroyed?
A: 80 thousand years ago.

Session 940930:
Q: (L) Is the cluster of fragments in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter the remains of a planet?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was that planet known as?
A: Kantek.
Q: (L) When did that planet break apart into the asteroid belt.
A: 79 thousand years ago approximately.

Session 941022:
Q: (L) The planet that was destroyed between Jupiter and Mars that we now know as the asteroid belt, you said was destroyed by psychic energy. Could you clarify that?
A: The occupants of that planet, many of whom are your soul ancestors, simply decided to develop a service to self atmosphere that was so super charged in the negative that it actually caused their home planet to be destroyed because the energy levels became so intense crashing back upon themselves that they actually destroyed the atomic structure of the planet, causing it to physically explode.
Q: (L) Was this done technologically or was it strictly done by mind power?
A: They are one and the same.
Q: (L) Did they do something like drop bombs?
A: No, no. This was done by psychic energy. There has been in a transient fashion of reality the danger of the same thing happening on your planet. Although we are quite confident it won't because we see all reality, past present and future. But, you must understand also that even in our particular perspective point, all reality is nonetheless fluid. There are still many choices of realities and possible futures and possible pasts and possible presents. But we feel fairly confident that that particular fate will not befall your planet, although it did the one then known as Kantek.

Session 970531:
Q: The Atlanteans were Celts?
A: "Celts, Druids," etc... are merely latter day designations.
Q: Let's back up here. You said that the Celts came from Kantek. They were transported by the Lizzies... brought here, correct?
A: Yes.
Q: When the Lizzies did this, how many Celts were physically brought here?
A: Hundreds of millions.
Q: How long, in our terms, did it take to bring these Celts to this planet? Or, is this ongoing?
A: Well, in the sense that you measure it, let us say about a week.
Q: Did they transport them in ships -- that is some sort of structure. That is, did they load them up, move them into 4th density, and reemerge here in 3rd density or something like that?
A: Close.
Q: And they unloaded them in the area of the Caucasus, is that correct?
A: And regions surrounding.
Q: And, that was what, 79 to 80 thousand years ago?
A: Over 80,000.

...

Q: Cayce talks about the division in Atlantis between the "Sons of One" and the "Sons of Belial." Was this a racial division or a philosophical/ religious division?
A: It was the latter two, and before that, the former one.
Q: When it was a racial division, which group was it?
A: The Sons of Belial were the Kantekkians.
(Q: Well! That is not good!
A: Subjective... you are not bodies, you are souls. )

Throughout history there is a pattern that white people think they are greater than other races. (I'm white so does saying that make me a racist? lol) They have a pattern of conquering new lands and causing mass genocides. This is connected with the fallen ones from Kantek who have lost their once noble and divine ways. This may also be the source of patriarchy and male-dominant superiority-complexes, which is the case according to the Cassiopaeans...

Q: One of the interesting things about this Northern civilizational factor is that one of the hallmarks of the Aryan attitude is the Male dominated religion. When did the
masculine religion "take over?" Was this always the tendency or leaning of the Aryan group?
A: Involves more than religion. Religion is the facilitator.
Q: Facilitator of what?
A: Customary psycho/social habitu
Q: Customary to whom?
A: Those whom you refer to as Aryans.
Q: Where did they acquire the "habit" of a masculine oriented religion? Everybody else was worshipping the goddess in one form or another. But this male dominated theology was the distinguishing characteristic of the Northern peoples. Where did they come up with this?
A: Originated on home planet.
Q: Kantek?
A: For all intents and purposes.

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 01:31 PM

The Cassiopaeans have some things to say about the aryan bloodline:

(941009):
Q: (L) What are the differences between the Celts and the Aryans?
A: Geographic and cultural.

(941018):
Q: (L) Are the Aryan/Celts who came to this planet from the other one that was destroyed, were they, when they came, in any way superior to the humans already here?
A: Somewhat.
Q: (L) What was the nature of this superiority?
A: Durability.
Q: (L) Physical or mental?
A: Physical.
Q: (L) Well, blond haired, blue-eyed people seem to be somewhat more delicate or thin-skinned compared to, say, the blacks.
A: In this environment on surface.

They're hinting at the superhumans underground, think Hyperborea, Thule and Agartha or Middle-Earth in Tolkien's writings, who was also a secret society member. Secret socieities are connected to aliens and superhuman beings.

Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton, member of the Golden Dawn and apparently Illuminati wrote a book about superhumans living underneath the earth in secret (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/vril/index.htm). He found them through a mining shaft and lived with them for a while. This group he called the Vril-ya because they knew how to harness Vril energy. Hitler was really fond of this energy and knowledge. A child could kill an army with this force. It's said that this group is supposed to come up to the surface and replace us. It fits a lot of prophecies about us humans suddenly 'ascending', though it's not as pleasant-sounding.

We have superhumans living amongst us in secret connected to certain groups and their really keen on bloodlines. They're not that alien but would like us to think otherwise. Though they probably are connected to more off-world groups.

Some more channelings:

(session 950924)

A:...We have close affiliation with the "Northern Peoples." Why? Because we were in regular, direct contact with them on Kantek [for educational purposes], before they were "lifted" to Earth by Orion STS.

A: The Nordic genes were mixed with the gene pool already available on Earth, known as Neanderthal.

A: In this part of your 3rd and 4th density universe, specifically your "galaxy" it is the region known as Orion that is the one and only indigenous home of human type beings... reflect on this! Indigenous home base, not sole locator. What you are most in need of review of is the accurate profile of "alien" data.

Q: (RC) I thought that humans originated in Lyra and then a war broke out there and they ended up in Orion.

A: Lyra is not inhabited. There have been homes in all places, but some were/are transitory, and some are not. Pay attention to Orion! This is your ancestral home, and your eventual destination. Here is the absolutely accurately accurate profile of Orion to follow: This is the most heavily populated region of your Milky Way galaxy! This is a region that extends across 3rd and 4th density space for a distance as vast as the distance between your locator and it. There are 3,444 inhabited "worlds" in this region. Some are planets as you know them. Some are artificially constructed planetoids. Some are floating space barges. And some are "satellites." There are primary homes, traveling stations and incubator laboratories all in 2nd, 3rd and 4th densities. There are overseer zones in 5th and 6th densities. Approximately one half is STO and one half is STS. Together, along with many other colonies, located elsewhere, this is called, in translation, Orion Federation. Orions created grays in 5 varieties, as cybergenetic beings, and installed them on Zeta Reticuli 1, 2, 3, and 4, as well as on 2 planets orbiting Barnard's Star. The Reptilians also inhabit 6 planets in the Orion region in 4th density, and are owned by the Orion STS as slaves, and, in some cases, pets!!! The name "Orion" is the actual native name, and was brought to earth directly. Study the legend of the "god" of Orion for parallels.

Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic aliens?

A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.

They say souls had to be moved here in an emergency. If humans lived in a higher realm or way of being on Tiamat/Kantek, it was destroyed quickly, and the souls were more or less forced to incarnate on nearby earth then this might partly explain or be interpreted as the origin of the Fallen Angels and the Genesis story about us falling from grace and getting kicked out of the garden.

(session 941104):

Q: (L) Who are the Nordic type aliens?
A: Your ancestors.

...

Q: (L) What is their purpose here on the planet at this time?
A: Observation.
Q: (L) Haven't they been seen with the Lizzies on occasion?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are they involved with the Lizzies?
A: Some are.
Q: (L) Are some of them not nice?
A: Fifty-fifty.
Q: (L) Do they ever abduct people?
A: Have but not too often. When they do, they do not give back.

...

Q: (L) So, the legend of the Fall of Lucifer as the origin of the souls incarnating into physical life was an event that actually took place on this other planet?
A: Yes.
(session 981226)
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant made between humans and other humans, or between humans and higher density beings?
A: Mostly between humans and humans, but some of the other.

...

Q: What is the central issue of the Nordic Covenant?
A: Bloodline extends off the planet.
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant a group that is in place on the planet for the purpose of guarding or propagating a particular bloodline?
A: To guard secrets.

...

Q: Are these secrets negative to our civilization or race?
A: From your perspective, maybe.
Q: Do these bloodlines have to do with Nephilim?
A: A little.
Q: What secrets are they guarding?
A: Your origins; the nature of your being.
Q: So, this Nordic Covenant is that which wishes to maintain the darkness of our realm, the time loops, the replays, and all that sort of thing?
A: One of the players, yes.

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 01:34 PM

The Nephilim

Q: (L) So, what were the purposes of the STS forces that were controlling Hitler causing him to desire to annihilate an entire group of people?
A: To create an adequate "breeding ground" for the reintroduction of the Nephalim, for the purpose of total control of the 3rd density earth prior to elevation to 4th density,
where such conquest is more difficult and less certain!

According to the C's the Nephalim came from Dorlaqua in Orion to act as enforcers against us. They were giants. Attempts at mixing their genes with humans eventually failed. They are said to return in the millions for the coming new world order. Sounds a lot like mythology...

(session 941020)
Q: I would like to go back to the subject of the Nephilim. Now you said the Nephilim were a group of humanoid types brought here to earth to be enforcers, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: When were they brought here?
A: 9046 BC one reference.
Q: They were giants, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: They were presented to the people as the representatives, or "Sons" of God, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: You say these dudes were 11 to 14 feet tall...
A: Yes.
Q: You and the ancient literature say that these sons of god intermarried with human women, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: Did they do that the same way it is done today, that is, sexual interaction?
A: No.
Q: How was it done?
A: Forced insemination.
Q: So, it was artificial insemination?
A: Close.
Q: Were these beings like us, including their sexual apparati?
A: Close.
Q: Any significant differences?
A: Three gonads.
Q: Was their sexual apparatus otherwise similar?
A: Yes.
Q: Did they mate with human females in a normal way at any time?
A: No.
Q: Why not?
A: Size difference.
Q: Just for the sake of curiosity, just how different in terms of size?
A: 23 inches long.

(session 941022):
Q: (L) Tell me about the Nephilim.
A: That was a race of beings in the third level of density which came from an actual planet at another point in this particular galaxy also in the third level of density, who were taken, or shall we say kidnapped, reprogrammed and retrained by the Lizard Beings to act as enforcers during a particular era of what you would measure as your past.

(session 941116)
Q: (L) At the time of the tower of Babel it says that the Nephilim looked on the daughters of men and took wives as if there were some friendly interaction of some sort... does this mean they broke ranks and had feelings for their human "wives"?
A: No. Another deception of history. Picturesque way of describing genetic experiments.

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 01:36 PM

Nazi Nordics continued...

Trent (fake name)

The reason I get into all of the above is because I've been trying to understand someone I used to know a few years ago and I can't seem to do it without looking into the concepts of aliens, hybrids and alien souls. I used to think demonic attachment explained his peculiarities but that's not enough.

He's a very strange and unique guy. I think he's either a nordic-human hybrid, has a 'Nazi Nordic' soul or both. He may or may not have some sort of negative entity attachment, alien or otherwise, though there's a good chance of that in my opinion.

It's funny how I ended up meeting him. I started waking up to conspiracies and the bigger picture in my teens. Around that time the conflict around me increased significantly. My mom was becoming wildly strange and more psychopathic and my brother suddenly turned into a 'wigger' and became a party animal. I was surrounded by lots of people drinking and doing drugs constantly, day and night. My mom left with my sister when we (twins) were 16 and soon my dad moved into the house to pay the bills. My dad brought home even more dealers and partiers, whom one of which was the infamous 'Trent'.

Trent offered us a place to live so we moved into his basement which gave me deja vu. The partying increased with an endless supply thanks to Trent who immediately took a liking to me. He eventually set me and my brother against my father in subtle ways, making it seem like he was just speaking the facts. After a fight my brother moved out and took his girlfriend with him. Soon enough my dad kept picking fights with me. With all the trash-talking and leading words of Trent I began to hate my father and admire him instead. He influenced me a lot and I did the worst thing. I beat the **** out of my dad. There were a lot of things going on, but I regret it deeply. It was a full moon and I left my bloody father to go for a walk. I phoned Trent and told him what had happened. He said 'Good job" and assured me it was the right thing and said I could sleep upstairs and make myself at home.

The next day walking home from the bus stop I found a four-leaf clover and thought that was a sign I did the right thing but I doubt it. Probably a negative, artificial synch to lead me astray. So within months I had suddenly gone from living with my mom and siblings to being in a new town where I didn't know anyone except for this admirable, frightening strange Trent who I barely knew. He 'adopted' me and let me live in the basement with various room mates as well as upstairs with his wife and 3 kids. I lived with him from the ages of about 17-20.

It was hard. I had no money but Trent helped 'in the only way he knew how'. I had no job and was too high to finish school. So I was given bags and bags of stuff that looked like candy and stuff to help pay the bills.

Trent wanted to be a father to me and treated me as if I was his own. He said he wanted me to look after his kids if anything happened to him. He'd teach me how to make money, pick up girls and how to fight and get what you want in this rough world. 'How to be a man' he'd say.

We had some fun times and he was extremely generous with his wealth even if it was with a bad attitude as in throwing a loaf of bread down the stairs. He did help me out a lot, with material things. I eventually moved out for a year then came back for a few weeks. At this point he offered me a full-time job watching the kids for a few months. I would have a free basement apartment, a Lexus to drive to college, free food, easy money, and have him and his connections if I ever had a problem with someone. Even promises of women thanks to his business plan for an escort service that I was supposed to help out with. But one night I just felt there was something evil in him and against all reason I decided to just walk away the next day and live on my brother's couch, living off of microwave popcorn. I thought I'd made a mistake because I had nothing but looking back, I did the right thing.

I realized how different it was not living with Trent. You would become a different person when living with him, almost like a high. It's like my association with him let me into his realm and life was full of connections and things going on, lots of exciting stuff, every night was a party if not 5 different parties and as part of his family you assume you are higher and better than others. I was extremely motivated and confident but lost a lot of it when I left. My relationship with him was one of inverted narcissism (http://samvak.tripod.com/faq66.html). Assuredly Trent called himself a narcissistic-sociopath. He had a lot of conflict within himself and with everyone he met.

A psychic vampire and psychopath he would stare into your eyes and seemingly look past you. He's a supreme manipulator. His mentality is that the world is something you conquer and oftentimes if not all the time sees people as lesser objects, things to manipulate and use to feed his grandiose identity. He goes out of his way to create an audience for himself, which he has a relentless drive for. He tells his stories and talks about himself constantly. I picked up his mannerisms so I would always be sure to make an impact on everyone I met by talking over people in a cold, smooth way, talking fast and unconsciously mimicking his own way of being. The Tsarion video I posted explains the psychic vampire I'm talking about perfectly.

Though a part of him has a lot of morals such as being there for his family, being generous with his wealth and having fun with people.

He grew up getting into a lot of fights and things. He was also in the army for a bit. Now he works in the terrible Candian movies industry. When he was 18, he was a nazi skin-head gang leader. He got away with wearing a big swastika on his T-shirt because he was an Odinist and that it represented Thor's hammer. He has tattoos of vikings on his arms and was quite proud of me when I researched Odinism and the viking myths. He was very into that topic and that history. He believes that you have to die in battle (he means war, though I like to use the myths as a symbol for spiritual battle) to get to Valhalla where you will be escorted by beautiful Valkyries to feast and drink and party. Partying he couldn't get enough of. We could hardly make it through a red light withou him shoving that stuff up his nose. He admired the myths and the viking history especially because he was proud to be half Irish. He liked Odinism because it had to do with gods from another world, the tall nordic ones.

He really liked Hitler and would talk about racial superiority. Was actually pretty racist and would say things like lack of body hair means you were more evolved.

I noticed his wife was similar to me in a way. She was 10 years younger than Trent and 10 years older than I. When we were around Trent, we would talk little and Trent would get all the attention and respect, but if we were with anyone else, sure enough we'd make sure we were the dominant personality because we were so drained and full of tension from being psychically vampirised by him we had to vampirize others, though unconsciously. She would also bend her head to the side like him as well as a lot of other things that would rub off if you lived with this guy.

It's hard to understand how a smart, good-looking woman would take all the psychic abuse from him. We went to the cottage one time and the wife was getting fed up so she hid the mushrooms. It turned into a hysterical argument and when I looked over I could see Trent with a big rock in his hand and his wife's hair in the other. I was worried he actually might do it. After, when things settled down, I talked to him about it. He said that he wanted to kill her typical of many husbands at some point. I said that you don't want to do that. He was really angry and said 'Don't tell me what I want to do." I said what about your kids? He said they'll be fine. Then he started swimming and having a good time.

She finally did the right thing though and they seperated. Everyone was surprised that a player like Trent who had been in and out of jail had settled down with a wife and kids for so long. Most people were surprised he was alive. He would talk a lot about how jealous people were of him, how he has so much after doing so many bad things. I can't say I know anything about capital sin, big money crime trades, electrocuting people, cutting people's fingers off, biker gangs, guns or anything like that stuff you see in the movies. Though my imagination runs wild and I am a paranoid alien conspiracy theorist who has smoked a lot of weed so I have to be careful because I have a history of being a delusional. But I can say though, that SWAT team randomly kicked down the door one time. And that Trent and I once were pulled over by a cop for no reason. The cop read out his record and it was like attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, assault, guns, attempted murder, deadly weapon, deadly weapon, attempted murder, guns, break and entering, assault, assault, assault, assault with a deadly weapon... They were suspicious of us, but Trent was pretty sly. He acted like an upset and surprised parent when the cop mentioned my record involving possession and that 'We're going to have a big talk about this when we get home young man' lol. He then started hitting on the European cop and she went from overly serious crime cop to bubbly girly woman pretty fast. We were illegally searched without a reason and then went on home.

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 01:39 PM

He would say the worst things to you but somehow you had this respect for him. He was not too good to get everyone at a party to laugh in your face, pointing straight at you. He would play games with people where he is just enough of the good guy to keep you around and would be the bad guy as much as he could get away with. He's the kind of guy that would steal your girlfriend, get her to give him a blowjob and then flick a quarter on her and treat her like crap in front of you, just for the hell of it. It was a game for him. He was even laughing at a guest with me and said 'See why I'm, like, the king of men?'.

He's a really fast talker and thinker. He is not dumb but on an emotional level he is severely crippled. He's like Michael Tsarion in that they're both Irish and can seemingly talk forever. They both have this calm, unemotional, ruthless intellect. But Michael seems like a constructive and caring person, respectable with a strong sense of morals. Trent has a psychotically twisted idea of morals (that he's overly proud of) and your respect and happy feelings for him (everyone he meets) is more based on unconscious fear. He often expresses how much he loves you by talking about how many people he would kill if anything happened to you. But the similarity is there. Fore also reminds me of him in the way that he can effortlessly expand on a subject. Their brains are going a lot faster than the average person. When they speak you think 'why didn't I think of that, it makes sense, I know that' but the difference is just a level of consciousness you could say.

He had psychic sensitivities such as seeing and talking to spirits and guessing the baby's gender of a pregnant womb. He was oddly skilled on picking up people's vibes and sensing who they were and what they were all about. I think it was more of an intellectual understanding of others and less of a natural sense of empathy. But he had a good side. He was caring of his family and I, even if he treated us like crap at times. He wanted to change his ways from being a criminal. I thought it was funny how such a tough gangster guy would make chocolate cream deserts and interesting dishes. We grew a garden, went camping and he did a lot of good things for me and others. But he was in conflict with keeping his more crazy self under control. Th 'sociopathic-narcissist' came out way too often. He would tell me in his smooth detached way, that although I saw him as a good guy, that he was certainly not and repeatedly told me about many bad things he's done many times, though some things he only hints about. I think unconscious guilt forces him to confess certain things unconsciously through half-serious jokes.

He liked to talk about how corrupt the human government is. He would get excited and go on about deep conspiracies in an attempt to wake people up. That was a part of his sense of dignity. He like to talk about how screwed up people were, a favourite subject. Every time I tried to talk about aliens (though he believes in them) or spirituality he'd dismiss the subject quickly and talk about material things like government conspiracies. He was keen on bringing me down and keeping me dependent on him. Though he is surprisingly well-read. His book shelf has quite a few books on war strategy.

His main concern was building a bunker and having a gang with a bunch of guns for the cataclysms brought by Nibiru. His mom told him about aliens and Nibiru when he was a kid and told him to prepare for it. He said that the 'ghosts and stuff' he talks to told him that he's supposed to take a select bunch of people to the bunker to survive the upheavals. In a dream he said that tall humanoid greys from zeta-reticuli also told him to take me and some other people to survive. The one thing that sucks about me leaving him and his family is that if there was someone that could get you through a chaotic city in a doomsday scenario, it was him. He is a trained fighter and too cunning. I know I'd have the best chance surviving anything if I were still with him, but I don't want to have to kill a bunch of people to live and he was a bad influence anyways. He said that he never wanted to lose touch with me, but after I walked out he might have got offended. So I've only talked to him a couple times since then, and not once in the past year.

His kids are really cool. The 6 year old girl is amazingly mature for her age. I could picture her as being a princess or leader in a past life. She is very kind and fun though she has a slight lack of natural empathy for others thanks to her father's genes. She is a very old and dignified soul. The 4 year old boy is just like the father. Same big head and eyes, same anger and rage problems and unlike the girl, is more crippled empathywise, but is still a good kid. He stabbed his dad with a fork at the age of 2. He has the same knack for manipulating people into giving him what he wants. Even if they don't need it, like sex or toast and jam, they just like to be served. He also goes nuts over little things and gets into rages like his dad. The young boy was just born when I moved in and at the age of 2 he has a big innocent smile and big eyes. When I asked Trent what the girl would do when she's older he said 'probably a doctor, lawyer or teacher' and the boy, 'serial killer' lol. (It was funny when he said that.)

Trent bonded with me instantly and didn't like most anyone else. He would keep me up late at night talking about his stories on and on. His wife said I was a good influence on him. He had a lot of crazy stories that you'd think came out of a movie. He wouldn't let you talk most of the time and would be a flat-out dickhead to you, as if he was perpetually rolling his eyes at everyone, dismissing everyone and putting the focus on how special and great he was. If someone new came over it's a matter of seconds before they're being flooded with stories like 'this one time I stabbed a guy with a broken beer bottle about 19 times hahaha'. He had a lot of interesting bits of knowledge about all kinds of things, but mostly it was all about how awesome he was.

He had a very smart wit and was extremely clever. He could make a lot of money as a comedian if he wanted to. He knew how to hook people, keep them entertained while intimidating them with scary stories so your only defense is to just smile and laugh. Some people, he would tap on the shoulder, look at them, then look away while saying in a calm, sarcastic, joking tone 'I'm a serial killer' and then grin a big forced smile just to mess with them. He was big on being the top-dog everywhere he went. Everyone thought he's the greatest guy, but crazy at the same time. I would see him talk down to huge, tough gangsters. He was the one in control and they all respected him.

There are some quotes from Susan Reed's case that strongly reminded me of Trent. I don't think he's a reptilian like in her case, but he might have an etheric attachment to them. I'm leaning more on the idea of him having more of a nazi nordic soul and genes, though I'm not sure. He is definitely human and has good human qualities like emotions, but they come off as a bit artificial or cold a lot of the time. The point is to illustrate his less human qualities, although he has good human qualities. He will cheer you up if he likes you and you're feeling down, as well as go out of his way to help someone. These quotes mostly describe more of the evil side of Trent. (From The Body Snatchers)

"He has a hidden strength and wisdom that didn't fit with his persona."

"He has extraordinary mental abilities"

" His thoughts are stronger and clearer than other peoples"

"He is extremely knowledgeable on all subjects"
(Trent read all the encyclopaedias as a kid, in jail would read a book a day, so he had a decent knowledge base.)

" I had my suspicions that he was more than human"

"I actually felt honoured that I was in his company."

"you see why I remained attracted to him despite the abusive things he did. Confusing to the "T" I can assure you. I have always admired him."

"He seems to be a combination of the reptilian qualities of cruelty, evilness, extra ordinary mental abilities and human qualities of an undebilitated soul of kindness, helpfulness and joyfulness. So there is a jackal and Hyde scenario."

"is extremely cruel"

"He has amazing success with women. Remarkable considering he is not a good looking man, or powerful, nor rich — He admires female beauty very much and his expectations in this area go far beyond his own attractiveness and yet all his girlfriends are very attractive."
(He used to be better looking with long blond hair. Could have made money as a model. Now he is skin-bald and has a bit of a belly. Looks older, but can still easily pick up young strippers and models.)

"I was always tense around him."

"wasn't actually very nice but put on an act."

"He would constantly pull me down with phrases such as "you're hopeless"; I was never any good at anything. He became a bully, unpleasant and critical and yet my attraction persisted."

"characteristics that are compatible with humans; these are helpfulness, intelligence and rational thinking, a high vibration, wisdom. "

There's a lot you could say bout him.

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 01:41 PM

Why do i think he's a hybrid?

Lots of reasons. Mostly his strange fondness for Odinism, his liking of Hitler and being a skin-head gang leader as a teen, how he is a leader who wants to take over the world in his own way and the peculiarities in his thinking or just the strange person he is. He's not just an everyday sociopath. He has excellent human qualities as well but there's something more to it.

Here is a very interesting yet insubstantial piece of evidence. Before this experience, I gave little thought to the suspicion that I may be living with some sort of aliens or hybrids...:

Trent, the wife and kids were sitting in the living room eating dinner and watching TV. I was in the kitchen fixing my plate. I walked into the living room and as the family came into view, it looked a bit dreamy, like if you were on psychedelics, though I was sober here. I sensed a strange glow in the air and around Trent and the kids, but not the wife. I looked at them, gawking as their tight little jaws munched on, staring at the television with this calm awareness. I had this instant knowing, this information just came in that I was living with aliens!

If I was Castaneda I would say that I saw them. In that instant for some strange reason I knew it, and I was freaked out. It creeped me out and I did not want to go in the room, but couldn't just turn around and look suspicious or weird, so I just ate with them. That was a strange thing and for some reason it just stuck into my memory bank. It lasted for a few seconds but seemed a lot longer, and after that the 'instant knowledge' or sensitive perception you could say just faded into memory. I've only told that to 1 other person because most people would just laugh at me.

He's got the typical nordic genes. Nordic, blue eyes, blond hair, good physique, small accentuated jaw. He has big eyes too that can be hypnotizing when he's staring right at you (or through you. Like I said, he sees others as objects a lot of the time, but not all the time). His family line links directly with the Ireland in the north, where the aryan line started.

He also has this multiple personalities thing going on, like there's a more caring human side in conflict with an unemotional psychopath. He confided in me that he knows he is crazy but the fact is that he controls it well. At least he is aware of his dysfunction. He said that he starts arguing back and forth with himself in his head or talks to his hand as a joke, but it quickly becomes serious and he is having a one-person dialogue arguing passionately with himself. That might clue us in to something about him having a spirit attachment or, maybe it is representative of his alien genes (if he has them) and human genes in conflict? Most pure-bred humans aren't so comfortable making jokes about rape and murder and think it's okay.

I've heard alien researchers talk about how hybrids are meant to act as more physical minions as opposed to the aliens who are oftentimes stuck in their realm, density or dimension. Hybrids would make it easier for alien souls to either attach themselves or incarnate into their bodies. This would allow them to do more physical things like breed with people and be violent. Trent was always extremely violent, moreso in the past and he had a lot of sex with a lot of women. When asked how many kids he had, he'd say he lost count after about 8 or 12.

Something he liked to say many times to me was "You have no idea who you're living with buddy." I think he is referring to his violent and criminal history he hasn't told me about and just trying to strengthen his image. I don't think he is conscious that he is a hybrid, but you never know. You could never get an honest connection in a dialogue with him because he looked down on everyone and would only talk about what he wanted to.

And then there is this funny thing mentioned by John Robie, a UFO researcher who died of a brain tumor shortly after revealing some things to project Camelot (http://projectcamelot.org/john_robie.html). Check it out.

He says:

"The aliens are highly intelligent and have possibly obtained positions at a very high level and this is of great concern to senior authorities. My information is that the only way they can be recognized is by a deformed finger on one of their hands. To hide this they usually wear gloves or a bandage on the finger as if they have had an injury.

The fact that they look like us and mingle amongst us..."

When reading that I got a shiver down my spine. Trent has a deformed, strange looking pinky on one hand. When asked about it, he would quickly say he smashed someone in a fight and change the topic. But he would also glance at it in a confused way. Maybe he was born with it and felt a bit insecure. It doesn't look like a pinky that was broken in a fight. It looks like an unnaturally small, deformed, 'retarded' pinky.

So I don't know if all of this description about Trent means anything. My suspicions are there but I have an open-mind. Some say that hybrids are supposed to be the new leaders and enforcers. If there are thousands of Trent's out there in positions of power then we are in for some trouble. It's been bugging me to write this out for a while now and I'm glad I put it out there. There's probably more I could add but I think that's enough for the time being.

Neuru

03-31-2013, 02:42 PM

Hi

First I'd like to say I personally very much appreciate your posting of this case and all the courage it must have taken to talk about a sensitive topic like this.

Second, while you'll find much more knowledgeable people on this board than yours truly (lol that's an understatement really), it really stood out from the description of Trent that he

(1) is cunning, sly, materialistic (i.e. loves the finite world and not God, the infinite creator)
(2) mistreats and abuses women (always a severe red flag)
(3) is rather emotional and violent, and that's very much unlike how, say, Fore described nordics: the nordics he knew are "stoic" and "inert" because what I'd call their "locus of awareness" is in the higher mind so they know they're the hand (or they have a hand, i.e. the higher mind complex) and that they're not the sock puppet (lower biological mind).

So my (obviously opinionated, non-professional) guesses are that in addition to being a Nordic, this guy might be

(1) an old, smart demon wearing a human body
(2) some elaborate demonic thoughtform created by ETs as some sort of experiment, implanted into a human body (maybe you could call that a form of hybrid)
(3) a smart, gifted person who acquired a strong demonic attachment, maybe very early in their life, with the demon having a preference for people who resemble Nordics

Why do I say demon? The most telling sign is that he's a psychic vampire. To me that signals that he does not have a spirit connection to God -- otherwise he wouldn't need to siphon away psychic (etheric/astral) energy solely from others for his own selfish needs. Now who are those who don't have a Spirit?

But these are just things that came to my mind after reading your recent posts and you should give more weight to the statemens of someone with much more wisdom and especially knowledge about ufology than me. :o Really.

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Also, you mentioned he has multiple personalities. So, the intertubes are not a reliable source of information in general but there's a recurring pattern I've seen with some gifted people (both online and offline):

- quick thinkers, can absorb and process lots of information very fast (I've seen one contemporary case where that person can casually read something like 3 books a day, there are probably even more striking examples if you look hard),
- may have "raw" artistic talent, i.e. have a great motivation and ability to create but the end result need not be "high art" (lol)
- have a (quasi-)photographic memory,
- have a seemingly much greater capacity for emotions than the average person (maybe that's a sign of bipolarity (i.e. BPD)?)
- have some traits of fantasy-prone personality (FPP) (maybe they have an internal paracosm they seldom talk about to anyone)
- maybe some traits of Asperger's syndrome
- and they show signs of multiple personality. Not the kind of multiple personality created in victims of some sick, twisted, demonic mind-control ritual but it's like when they grew up they naturally developed into this or created this condition by themselves in their childhood

It's like all these traits can be loosely grouped together into one "continuum". I dunno, maybe these are alien souls that are not fully compatible with the human brain and maybe a human mind can only run multiple trains of thought in parallel when each train of thought is assigned to a separate personality? :confused: All wild guesses, you see...

Neuru

03-31-2013, 04:51 PM

Whoops, my bad, some of what I brought up in the first part was actually mentioned in your narrative, sorry. :o

lycaeus

03-31-2013, 05:42 PM

First I'd like to say I personally very much appreciate your posting of this case and all the courage it must have taken to talk about a sensitive topic like this.
Thanks. I figure what the hell why not? I've been thinking about this for a long time and I think about this guy every single day. He's a strong presence and hard to forget. And there is no one to talk to about this except for you crazy alien conspiracy theorists :p

loves the finite world and not God, the infinite creator

Materialistic to the extreme! He is all about parting and having a good time in this life. He flaunts his wealth and is a complete narcissist. Whenever I would bring up the idea of karma he would rebuke that by mentioning how well-off he is now, beautiful wife and kids, money, popularity... He thinks that if earth is hell, then someone who kills someone is like an angel because they send them to heaven or god. That is his reasoning and when you're in his presence, no matter how smart you are, it is difficult not to just be polite to him and indulge his bs. He is not someone you want to challenge. Reason doesn't work though he'll think he's completely rational.

(2) mistreats and abuses women (always a severe red flag)

Emotional and verbal abuse, yets, a near endless supply. I never saw him hit a woman once, though he did laugh about how he smacked his wife in the face to show off to some Jamaican guys at a party. He thought it was hilarious. He tells his wife that she's the boss and she can bitch at him at home but if she ever tries to do it in front of his gangster friends then he has no choice but to hit her to keep his reputation up.

(3) is rather emotional and violent, and that's very much unlike how, say, Fore described nordics: the nordics he knew are "stoic" and "inert" because what I'd call their "locus of awareness" is in the higher mind so they know they're the hand (or they have a hand, i.e. the higher mind complex) and that they're not the sock puppet (lower biological mind).

He is quite emotional, but is ruthless in his attempts to control his emotions with his intellect. He's good at that. That's why I don't think he's a full-blown Nordic, but a hybrid. He has human and alien characteristics. But he may just happen to have more alien genes in his DNA than most. And there's a good chance he has a demon or alien soul attached to him. He does suffer and has a conscience to a certain extent and tries to change his ways and do the right thing but sometimes he loses control with his anger and contempt for everyone.

(2) some elaborate demonic thoughtform created by ETs as some sort of experiment, implanted into a human body (maybe you could call that a form of hybrid)

That's possible. He can be robotic and narrow-minded, often contradictory. He does get nervous and suffer fear like most people though it is like the good human is dying in him or 'not there' a lot of the time. As a teenager he had a natural affinity for Hitler's philosophy as well as an attachment to the Norse gods and Odinism.

a smart, gifted person who acquired a strong demonic attachment, maybe very early in their life, with the demon having a preference for people who resemble Nordics

How many 18 year olds are skin-head gang leaders? He did some pretty bad, violent and complicated schemes when he was very young. I forgot to mention that his mom was crazy too and they were always on the run from the cops when he was a kid.

Why do I say demon? The most telling sign is that he's a psychic vampire. To me that signals that he does not have a spirit connection to God -- otherwise he wouldn't need to siphon away psychic (etheric/astral) energy solely from others for his own selfish needs.

Spirited people can be psychic vampires sometimes to a degree. Especially spirited people with an attachment. But in this case I really don't know who's behind his mask. His occult gods are probably from the infernal dimensions.

Now who are those who don't have a Spirit?

Oftentimes human parasites oblivious to the pain they inflict. They're also easily accessed and controlled by entities who exist primarily outside our dimension or realm of existence.

may have "raw" artistic talent, i.e. have a great motivation and ability to create but the end result need not be "high art" (lol)

He's a good visual artist. He used to write comics for his schools about how stupid some of the teachers were, right in their faces. Though everyone loved it even the teachers. That reminds me of his story when he was a kid. He was in trouble for something sitting in the office and he blackmailed the teacher by putting on a convincing act of what he would say to the cops if they reported him. He was 12 years old. He started bawling his eyes out, whining and complaining that the teachers touched him and molested him. The teachers were freaked out by this and called him Lucifer. He is a good, natural actor when he wants to be.

He grew up around natives too, and the name he got meant 'little devil' which he was proud of, even though they told him it was not good.

have some traits of fantasy-prone personality (FPP) (maybe they have an internal paracosm they seldom talk about to anyone)

He did A LOT of drugs and drinking his whole life, was a seemingly endless party. He did say some things to me he wouldn't talk about to others. Like he would confess things to me like how he was worried and concerned (in other words, he implied it) about his sanity. But then he still be his normal intimidating self with the most confidence and attitude. He was clearly very proud of himself. I think he felt a little bit of healthy shame when he was around me and he would try to be a better person.

lycaeus

04-01-2013, 11:21 PM

some more thoughts on Tiamat...

In Secret of the Saucers by Orfeo Angelucci his contacts mention the fallen planet Tiamat also known as Lucifer.

The prince of the planet was also called Lucifer. Many people grew darkness in their hearts and aligned themselves with the selfish Luciferians who took advantage of their less selfish brothers. Some people strongly resisted the Luciferian ways. The planet was great and beautiful and was in a higher vibration of being along with the inhabitants there.

Some of them avoided the coming destruction by going into a higher vibratory realm, I guess by something like out-of-body astral travel. But a lot of them fell to earth, some physically and some just their souls after the great destruction.

Orfeo's contacts met him on a fragment of Tiamat (the asteroid belt). They had a nice little world there 100 miles across upon a big space rock. They interacted with him because they were his long lost family. Maybe this has to do with their interest in us?

Here are some quotes:

“The name of the prince of this shining planet was
also Lucifer, a beloved Son of God.” Orion paused and
the sadness deepened in his eyes. Then he continued:
“Earth’s legends about Lucifer and his hosts are true.
Pride and arrogance grew in the heart of Lucifer and in
the hearts of many Luciferians. They discovered all of
the secrets of matter and also the great secret of the
Creative Word. Eventually they sought to turn this
omnipotent force against their brothers who were less
selfish. Also against the etheric beings and the Father, or
Source, for it became their desire to rule the universe.
You know the rest of the legend: how Lucifer and his
followers were cast down from their high estate. In
simpler words, the Luciferians who were embodied then
in the most attenuated manifestation of matter “fell”
into embodiments in one of the most dense material
evolutions, which is the animalistic evolution of Earth.”

“Orion shook his head. “No, not all, Neptune, but
vast numbers of Earthlings are former Lucifer-ians.
About the others we will explain to you later. The
revelation when it comes will explain many of the
enigmas of your planet.”

“Lucifer is
presently incarnated upon Earth, but we may
not disclose to you his present identity. He has incarnated many times upon Earth and every name is
familiar even to grade school children. But some of
those names would surprise you, for they are not what
you might expect.”

(reminds me of the Hidden Hand who appeared on the ATS forum)

“But if we destroyed your great
planet, why are your disks visiting Earth now? Why did
Astra contact me? Why don’t you leave us to the fate
we deserve, each one of us buried in his individual grave
of living death.”
Lyra’s hand gripped mine and Orion’s arm tightened
around my shoulders. “Love is stronger than life and
deeper than the boundless depths of time and space,” he
said softly. “While our brothers are lost in the hell of
unreality and turn their blinded, imploring eyes to the
mute heavens, we can never forget them. We intercede
unceasingly for your peoples’ liberation. Thus today
every bondsman upon Earth has within himself the
power through the mystery of the Etheric Christ Spirit
to cancel his captivity.
“Eventually all of mankind deep-drowned in Time
and Matter, will surface to reality when they recognize
their basic unity of being. When man is for
man honestly and sincerely and not selfishly arrayed
against himself, the hour of deliverance from
the underworld will be close at hand. We wait now
beyond the great, sad river of Time and Sorrows with open arms and hearts to receive among us our lost
and prodigal brothers in that great day when they
rejoin us as liberated Sons of God.

“Our disks, or saucers as Eardimen term them, are in
your space-time frame as harbingers of mankind’s
coming resurrection from the living death. Although
our disks are essentially etheric; that is, non-material,
they are controlled in such a way that they can almost
instantaneously attract substance to take on any degree
of material density necessary. Various other types of
space craft are now permitted to visit Earth for certain
purposes. These are from other worlds and also space
islands of various densities of matter. Some are on the
borderline between materiality and non-materiality.
But all are operated by intelligences highly spiritual in
nature. All are on a mission of love to their brothers of
the Dark World, but mankind’s understanding of their
ultimate intent and purpose will only become fully
apparent further along in Earth’s Time Dimension. We
do not say that there are no negatives in the universe
who have not attained primitive modes of space travel,
but at present Earth is fully protected from these by
both cosmic law and the etheric hosts.”

The part about the more negative beings in spacecraft being shielded from earth makes me think that the negative beings and abductions are done by people of earth. Though they could be giving white-lies idk.

montalk

04-02-2013, 12:50 AM

The part about the more negative beings in spacecraft being shielded from earth makes me think that the negative beings and abductions are done by people of earth. Though they could be giving white-lies idk.

Then here's something from the Law of One channeling that expands on the quarantine idea:

The Law of One, Book I, Session 16

Questioner: I would like to ask, considering the free will distortion of the Law of One, how can the Guardians quarantine the Earth? Is this quarantine within free will?

Ra: I am Ra. The Guardians guard the free will distortion of the mind/body/spirit complexes [humans] of third density on this planetary sphere. The events which required activation of quarantine were interfering with the free will distortion of mind/body/spirit complexes.

Questioner: I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it would be the free will of, say the Orion group [negative aliens], to interfere. How is this balanced with the information which you just gave?

Ra: I am Ra. The balancing is from dimension to dimension. The attempts of the so-called Crusaders [negative aliens] to interfere with free will are acceptable upon the dimension of their understanding. However, the mind/body/spirit complexes of this dimension you call third form a dimension of free will which is not able to, shall we say, recognize in full, the distortions towards manipulation. Thus, in order to balance the dimensional variances in vibration, a quarantine, this being a balancing situation whereby the free will of the Orion group is not stopped but given a challenge. Meanwhile, the third group is not hindered from free choice.

Questioner: Could these “windows” that occur to let the Orion group come through once in a while have anything to do with this free will balancing?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Could you tell me how that works?

Ra: I am Ra. The closest analogy would be a random number generator within certain limits.

Questioner: What is the source of this random number generator? Is it created by the Guardians to balance their guarding? Or is it a source other than the Guardians?

Ra: I am Ra. All sources are one. However, we understand your query. The window phenomenon is an other-self phenomenon from the Guardians. It operates from the dimensions beyond space/time in what you may call the area of intelligent energy. Like your cycles, such balancing, such rhythms are as a clock striking. In the case of the windows, no entities have the clock. Therefore, it seems random. It is not random in the dimension which produces this balance. That is why we stated the analogy was within certain limits.

Questioner: Then this window balancing prevents the Guardians from reducing their positive polarization by totally eliminating the Orion contact through shielding. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. In effect, the balancing allows an equal amount of positive and negative influx, this balanced by the mind/body/spirit distortions of the social complex. Thus in your particular planetary sphere, less negative, as you would call it, information or stimulus is necessary than positive due to the somewhat negative orientation of your social complex distortion.

Questioner: In this way, total free will is balanced so that individuals may have an equal opportunity to choose service to others or service to self. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

That's a complicated way of saying that yes there is a quarantine, but it's only there to slow down (rather than totally prevent) the influx of negative manipulations so that our collective freewill is relatively preserved. Without the quarantine, negative forces would have so much freedom to do as they please, that humans would be sausage by now. And that this controlled trickling (titration) is accomplished via the generation of pseudo-random portals that allow such forces to get in, or pull off certain attempts, when they can.

If that's true, then I'll make a wild guess and say that HAARP type technology may be trying to stabilize or control such portals. But it also implies that there are a set number of negative forces within the quarantine zone, either here before the quarantine was put in place, or who came here via the portals.

As for what Angelucci was told, I think it was more a white lie than malicious disinformation. I say that because 1) it was the 50s and the government hadn't yet cemented those deals with the negative aliens that created the runaway alien-military-industrial complex of the 60s onward, 2) Angelucci was a fragile guy and the thrust of the message told to him was of an uplifting positive nature, so maybe they didn't want to rain on his parade, and 3) That bit about the negative aliens seemed like a brief tangent, rather than the main point of the book. Modern disinfo books try to drive that point home again and again. If Angelucci existed today and wrote that, I'd call him out on it, considering all the other research out there now proving there are malevolent aliens. But a naive 50s guy, well that's understandable.

montalk

04-02-2013, 01:08 AM

I don't know who Trent really is, but from your description he sounds like a souled/spirited sociopath to me. That is, someone who has sociopathic traits but not due to lack of spirit or total absence of empathy, just misplaced empathy and a negative spiritual orientation. Such people would have many advantages over totally empty sociopaths and psychopaths, in that they could have psychic powers, an occult magnetic charm about them, creativity, the ability to mentally read people, and relations with paranormal entities and aliens. In other words, you can only make a deal with the devil if you have a soul to sell.

If he's a hybrid, there's no telling how far back in time the alien factor was introduced. Is he simply part of a bloodline going way back and eventually off-world in ancient times? Was he born on a ship and plopped down into human society as a baby? Did his mom consort with an alien? Were both his parents human, but aliens introduced a third-party alien genetic tweak in the womb? Or is he totally human, but his soul/spirit has had some colorful roles in other lives perhaps as some alien warlord on that Tiamat/Kantek planet? I'm just speculating here.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's a MILAB either. They tend to go for those types, or create them. What you said about his post-apocalyptic survival ambitions, that has some big implications. Such as, if aliens are seeding hybrids in human society, and if a big cataclysm is coming up, then what of those hybrids who don't have super amazing psychic powers to knock people out psychically ... how would they survive and prosper in a time of chaos? Well, maybe they would need training and abilities just like Trent has, and hence they'd be seeded here from birth and given the appropriate conditioning through harsh human experiences.

lycaeus

04-02-2013, 07:03 AM

Then here's something from the Law of One channeling that expands on the quarantine idea:
That explains things. The idea of a quarantine brought up by Tsarion and others always puzzled me because of the alien interaction that goes on. It explains why it is so sparse and limited.

Regarding Trent, those are some good questions I don't have answers to. I definitely think there is a soul spark there, just negatively oriented. He is trying to be loving and positive in some ways but it seems so forced and unnatural. His crippled ability to naturally love quickly turns into cold contempt. Actually a lot of what I interpret of him as genuine kindness was probably my naive projections. He was good at tricking others into giving him a lot of attention or energy.

From what I understand, his mother was very intelligent and violent. She taught him about Nibiru and told him to prepare for disasters. She was the hardest on him because she said he was the smartest, fastest and best basically out of his siblings. He said he was trained his whole life for excellence and he excels at everything he puts his mind to. His life was extremely hard. He worked a full-time night shift while getting honors in school as well as having an active social life and making a lot of money.

His daughter (whose name means queen or princess) told him that she had a dream. She said that she saw daddy sitting on a big chair like a king and there were all these people, so many around him.

He would also mention strange things as a joke repeatedly, like waking up in a forest covered in blood with a weapon not knowing what happened. Just a joke though. Some things though, I was amazed he would get away with in public, it was strange, like he had this special protection.

The thing that makes me think genetic is the little pinky. But who knows.

........Anyone have any good sources for stories and information about hybrids?
I hate wading through so much insubstantial stuff on the 'net. Maybe I'll make some connections regarding this or at least closer to the truth.

montalk

04-05-2013, 07:12 AM

The thing that makes me think genetic is the little pinky. But who knows.

There was a show from the 60s called The Invaders. It was about humanoid aliens secretly taking over the world. One of their distinguishing features was a mutated pinky finger.

Neither the Invaders nor their planet were ever named. Their human appearance was a disguise; they were never shown in their true form except in one episode, "Genesis", in which an ill alien researcher loses his human form and is briefly seen immersed in a tank of water. Unless they receive periodic treatments in what Vincent called "regeneration chambers", which consume a great deal of electrical power, they revert to their alien form. One scene in the series showed an alien beginning to revert, filmed in soft focus and with pulsating red light.

They had certain characteristics by which they could be detected, such as the absence of a pulse and the inability to bleed. Nearly all were emotionless and had "mutated" little fingers which could not move and were bent at an unnatural angle, although there were "deluxe models" who could manipulate this finger. There were also a number of mutant aliens, who experienced emotions similar to those of humans, and who even opposed the alien takeover. The existence of the Invaders could not be documented by killing one and examining the body: When they died, their bodies would glow red and disintegrate — along with their clothes and anything else they were touching — leaving little more than traces of black ash. On several occasions, a dying alien would deliberately touch a piece of their technology to prevent it from falling into the hands of humans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invaders

Art imitating life? The overall plot and details of the show are a bit uncanny. Sounds like some classified info concerning humanoid aliens filtered down into entertainment, like with Gene Roddenberry and Star Trek.

........Anyone have any good sources for stories and information about hybrids?
I hate wading through so much insubstantial stuff on the 'net. Maybe I'll make some connections regarding this or at least closer to the truth.

I can't think of any definitive sources like "read this book, it's everything you need to know about hybrids" that I can recommend. There are lots of circumstantial evidence fragments that have to be put together and weighed for their probability. Insubstantial stuff like you said. But that's how it goes in this research field.

An overlooked source might be the historical/mythical examples of people who were said to be half-human, half-god. Also known as demigods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demigod) or changelings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling). These were people with supernatural power, superhuman strength or intelligence, often hero types. Some say Alexander the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great) and Apollonius of Tyana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius_of_Tyana) are examples. I suspect these weren't Gray alien hybrids; those seem to be a more recent phenomenon (1900s onward?).

Modern sources on hybrids can be sketchy. David Jacobs has been the go-to guy for info on hybrids, but there's big controversy over how unbiased his info is. I don't think his research is totally invalidated by his debacle over Emma Woods. Rather I suspect he fell for a setup and got chumped by aliens, in order to discredit him and discredit hybrid research in general.

Abduction literature from the 80s and 90s might be outdated, considering how the awkward sickly looking hybrids back then may have been superseded by highly functioning ones by now. On the latest with hybrids, I find Fore's posts on the hybrids and psychic children to be pretty plausible.

There are anecdotes scattered across the internet of people who have seen/met/know others in everyday life who they suspect might be hybrids. I've met some people who seemed like they could be hybrids. But since hybrids look mostly human, we can't be sure they are really hybrids -- or just unusual looking and behaving people. Even if they admit to being hybrids, some could be fantasy prone people or abductees who have been given a fantasy story about themselves by their abductors.

The way I approach the hybrid subject, is to think of what's known about aliens and how they act, what their abilities and limitations are, and then think of what a human would be like if some of that were bred into them. As you can see, it would depend on the type of alien.

lycaeus

04-05-2013, 09:35 AM

I'm going to research this more. Already I've noticed some intriguing similarities to Trent with Alexander the Great and Chu Chulainn.

My guess is his relation is to a very humanlike alien with the philosophy of a nazi. There's a good chance that aliens are time travellers. Maybe there's a future where the nazi's won? Maybe they are going back to the past to meddle and manipulate as they are famous for.

Philip K Dick had some profound gnostic revelations that lead to him writing thousands of pages of profound speculation and instant knowledge about god and the nature of reality. One revelation included the knowledge that some of the stories in his books were actually taken from real worlds, possibly in another timeline or dimension. The Man In The High Castle was a story about our society had the nazi's publicly won world war 2.

With fringe truths coming out through mainstream media, I think this has several reasons. It could be unconscious knowledge coming out as inspiration and put to art form. It could be used to discredit as in 'you watch too much Star Trek'. Could be someone knowingly trying to get the truth out there. Or there might be some sort of political or occult rule that indicates it is necessary to reveal information to people in at least a limited fashion, maybe to not impose freewill and get in trouble with higher powers like HOEs.

whoknows

04-05-2013, 05:30 PM

The fascist did win, it was just that another group of fascist wanted control and gained it through artifice of subterfuge.

You put a frog in a pot of cold water and turn the flam on to let the water heat to boiling the frog will sit blissfully ignorant!

lycaeus

04-06-2013, 04:22 PM

The fascist did win, it was just that another group of fascist wanted control and gained it through artifice of subterfuge.

Yes the fascists did win in our world although there is a difference to The Man In The High Castle. In that story, and possibly other real time-line, the takeover was more overt. It was public and less undercover where jews were openly scapegoated.

whoknows

04-06-2013, 05:27 PM

That's the thing about infinite multiverse, the possibilities are... I hope most of them are without intolerance! Ha wish I lived in one!!

lycaeus

04-22-2013, 12:17 AM

A thought on Trent.

I've been listening and reading Michael Tsarion and I can't ignore the similarities between Trent and Tsarion. There are huge differences on the surface, as one is an ethical, well-dressed speaker and preacher of morals, history and philosophy, while the other is a rough, 'no pain no gain', sophisticated wrong-doer.

I can't help but think that they could easily swap places. If Michael was born into the crime life of Trent and all the crazy things from his childhood, I could see him taking his place. And if Trent was born into an intellectual, rich, academic family, I could see Trent like a Michael Tsarion. Maybe their soul's have biases, it's more than a nurture question, and I'm oversimplifying though.

The one person that realistically compares to Trent that I know of is Tsarion. When you observe their 'beingness', just the type of personality or 'vibe' it is pretty interesting.

When I listen to Tsarion, I have this great respect for his disciplined, rational, intellect, (same as for Trent). But Michael is uncomfortably, almost inhumanly on the cold, dry side, and some readers of his forum proclaim that he doesn't believe in love and that it is a sign of weakness. Something unnerves me about him.

I almost want to say that they both have more of the alien DNA in them but I don't want to jump to conclusions. They're both Irish too.

lycaeus

06-05-2013, 10:53 PM

Found these scratches on me. http://chronus97.imgur.com/all/ One might be a couple days old, the other only a day. Both on the left hip area. 2nd one there should have been protected by my pants, I'm either wearing jeans or thick cargos and even sleep in pants. No other scratches on me anywhere, nothing from my cat, and I never do get scratched by him. haven't been to work in a week and honestly have no idea where they came from. Might be abduction related, might not.

lycaeus

06-06-2013, 12:42 PM

Oh, wait I think they're from my braclet. Got another scratch this morning and there's a pointy part on my left bracelet I didn't notice before, so yeah, it was my bracelet. :o

lycaeus

06-14-2013, 04:46 PM

I want to keep this thread as concise and relevant as possible. I don't want it to be my personal diary.

But I just remembered some of the dreams I used to have when I was younger. It was just triggered by a little fear I just had of people breaking into my house to assault, mangle or take me away. That's kind of paranoid, not a rational fear. I've had those fears for most of my life pop up fairly often, unfortunately. So i remembered some of the dreams I used to have. They involved men in black militia gear with guns like special tactics super shadow squad or something. They would break in, surround the house and try to capture me. I would be jumping out of windows and over fences only to be cornered and captured. Scary as hell dreams that were completely real in my mind until I woke up.

Those dreams and irrational fears might be a clue from the subconscious that abductions have been going on in my life. Or maybe my family just made me watch too much America's Most Wanted..

Also for the record, I don't think I mentioned this one memory. Could be a dream, but it is reminiscent of some abduction stories:

I was sitting in my bedroom and the lights started flickering. Everything was shaking, lamps falling off desks, then things started floating upwards as if there was no gravity. There was rumbling. The door kept slamming open and shut. I went to it and it was locked. I was terrified and thought 'No, not again.' That's all i remember. This memory was years before I had even heard of a crop circle. I was too busy with video-games then.

lycaeus

06-16-2013, 09:29 PM

I was reading about the contactee Anthony Kane (http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t567-anthony-kane-contactee-describes-the-council-of-twelve-describes-dimensional-shift-in-2012) and he reminded me of a dream i had 6 years ago. He talked to a group of 12 humanoid, 8-9' tall aliens from a spaceship. They told him that the earth is going to split into 2 earths, similar to Dolores Cannon's belief, a good, higher, positive one, and a lesser, mundane earth.

So I wonder if the dream I had was some sort of message from similar beings, maybe partly channeled. It was an odd, vivid and memorable dream:

"I was on a base on what I thought was the earth's moon. It was like a professional, drab, office-lab area with intelligent people doing intelligent work with computers and paper. I looked out the window upon the grey dusty land below a black sky and saw a silverish sea of liquid, thicker than water (might have been a pool or reservoir). I think there were wave tides and a sandy shore and the sea might have been multicoloured, or kept changing colours, memories a bit hazy. I then looked down on the earth. I saw 2 things: 1) giant robotic, mechanical snakes and 2) the earth splitting into 2 earths.

Giant silvery, metallic snakes came out from the earth as if it were Medusa's head They were shaped like cobras. They grew quickly and multiplied. Then the earth turned into a venn-diagram of sorts and then there were 2 earths. Ok cool...

Then, looking around the building I was in, there appeared to be a bunch of those same snakes, except WAY smaller like the size of normal snakes. They just appeared out of nowhere, multiplied and invaded. So we all began chasing them around trying to stop them by whacking them with sticks. That's all I remember."

Reminded me of The Simpsons Whacking Day episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQI3TTNR6AM

lycaeus

06-26-2013, 08:25 AM

Ok I want to document a couple things tonight before I forget or lose the motivation to do it tomorrow. I really think something weird or wrong just happened, maybe an abduction...probably. I've been sleeping well the past months, openly talking about aliens, conspiracies and reading scary stuff in a dark basement by myself in an empty house at night, and still managing to sleep fine. But I'm here with my room mate, lights on, we had a good day, and there is this strong, bodily, emotional, visceral intuitive feeling of bad vibes. I'm probably going to sleep in his couch in his bedroom. I feel sorry for my cat alone downstairs, but there's lights on and music for him.

We're upstairs and we looked outside and a black SUV was just sitting right out front of our house, which we never see. He had his 4-ways on. We looked at him through the window for a few minutes and he probably saw us with the lights. Then he turned his interior lights on, stared at our window, then drove off after shutting his lights off. He was a white guy, blue T-shirt, normal-looking. (Could have been a drug deal, could have been a MILAB guy). There were also 3 barefoot, attractive girls randomly walking in his direction down the sidewalk, so probably a party or deal, but I'll note it anyway.

We did a couple psychic tests after we noticed we feel like we're on drugs. We both are completely sober though, nothing intoxicating. It feels like I'm on mushrooms and ecstasy right now, same as my room mate. We did a couple tests of guessing the numbers, letters, shapes and farm animals and we we're getting them right, instantly. I remember this feeling like when I lived with JC who I wrote about regarding the signs of possible manipulation, aliens, and abductions, even demonic attachment stuff where it seems like forces wanted to break us apart; and it worked. We had nights where we felt psychic, and went for walks and it felt like a natural, sober psychedelic trip. That's how we feel right now. Our nerves are shot and we're hyper-aware of everything, including the plumbing, tiny sounds, everything is vivid. My room mate is shivering to death and our eyes are peeled.

We feel genuinely creeped out and fearful, though we are usually fine. I'm even nervous going into another room.

What seemed to trigger these feelings was how we noticed we just seemed to be missing at least a couple hours of time tonight. Some guy asked us for the time as we were sitting outside and we checked and it was 2 12am! At THE MOST, it could have been midnight, but no later. lol we are nervous wrecks right now, feels like a random, natural, free high. (room mate says he really don't like the feeling and either do I)

So this is what happened these past few hours. We got home from a nice meal around 9 30 pm. I know this exact time because I checked my calls. I called back someone about a job interview in a couple days. Call was max. 5 minutes. Then we went in the kitchen and talked for a bit. We each had several glasses of water, drinking constantly, then I made 2 cups of dandelion tea (wicked stuff). The dogs had to go out, so we went out there so they could do their business and then let them inside. We sat outside for a while to sip and smoke and 'vape' (I just got my e-cig which is AMAZING!). We reviewed our conversations and agree that we did not talk for almost 5 hours, honestly, something is really wrong right now. My heart sank when we checked the time. The conversation was just a few mundane things. We both think that the conversation in the kitchen and outside should have been only about an hour really. It's confusing as hell.

Room mate (Freyr) says he initially felt weird as soon as we walked outside with the dogs. Exactly what happened was he went outside with the dogs, I came outside, then he went in with the dogs while I stayed outside. A minute later he came outside with smokes and tea and we chatted. At one point I started talking about Fore's thread and how cool it is and Freyr wants to look into it more. I looked at him in mid-sentence and sai9d 'What was I just talking about?' He didn't know, and went back a few minutes ago, and I said "No, not that long ago, I mean like 10 seconds ago, what was I just saying?". So we couldn't figure it out and just kept talking. Then this weird wigger guy came up to the fence and asked for the time.

We came in and made jokes about being abducted, then the fear and heightened sensitivity took over. I'm usually fine in a dark empty house reading scary books alone, but upstairs with animals, lights and company we are freaked out. So this is a real weird feeling going on.

There are some wird circumstances going on lately that makes it look like some forces are trying to turn us against each other and break up our friendship, even though things are going extremely well, pretty much better than ever for both of us.

lycaeus

06-26-2013, 09:21 AM

lol Freyr is running to the window to look at nothing. Just want to stress again that there is no way in hell it should have been 2 12 when it was.

I hope nothing happened and we're just having random psychological malfunctions, but IDK. Maybe an abductee can relate to the feelings I'm talking about.

This reminds me so much of what happened with my old room mate JC. We were best friends, brothers really, and then we got into petty arguments, he attacked me, I attacked him back and we never talked again. He wrote me and Freyr out of his life for no reason really. And we had a good band and were amazing friends...

(We are both expecting an alien almost to walk up the stairs any second now, this is how paranoid we are right now. We also feel dirty and stoned too, grungy. Our hands are white and it feels like we're on something, but we're not- err hope not..)

So the past couple days, I was hating him for no reason. It was really bad, I was not myself. He sensed immense silent anger from me, and that I amguilty of and openly explained. He was nervous being around the house with me because of the really bad vibes just emanating through the floors. I feel bad about it. I cut off his internet because he owed me some money, and I genuinely hated him for a couple days. But it was eating me up and something in my gut was telling me something was wrong. It's all I could think about. I had no reason to be so hateful and cold toward s him, so I analyzed things in my mind and thought a lot about it the past few days and came to the conclusion that nothing is solved by harboring grudges. And I logically have no reason to accuse him or be suspicious of stealing and lying. There were some small lies we both clarified honestly, but a lot of money went missing. I thought it was him lying, but the truth is there is no real evidence to accuse him and my emotions are telling me to let go of the hate. So I did, and we talked all day today and had a really good day, everything's great.

Then we realized we're missing time and feel really weird. Normally I am exhausted by midninght, and we're both WIDE AWAKE at 3 45am. Strange indeed.

So Freyr will write his weird dream he had last night and then I will mention a few weird coiincidences that made it look like he was stealing and lying from me (though that's really not true and definitely not proven by any means. I doubt it...)

The Dream:
(Just before the dream I want to say that after we left the buffet, when we got back to our house Lycaeus said "I don't really feel like going inside, I kind of want to just keep walking, do you want to go take the dogs for a walk?" And I replied "Yeah we can do that". And to be honest, I'm not usually very motivated to walk the dogs or even go for a walk, and tend to neglect walking them which I feel really bad about. Mind you that is about to change. And Lycaeus agree's with me that something doesn't feel right about him, not he wasn't himself. He feels the NEO Cube may have opened him up to something. He recalls seeing demonic faces and a vivid shadowy figure, that came right past him and he began to sweat a lot. He's done a whole lot of meditations since then and hasn't seen no where as nearly as many faces or vivid imagery. He also mentioned that he masterbated the past two dayss in a row, which is actually not normal for him as he onloy does it every 3-4 weeks honestly. And just last december I woke up with a bloody lip and heard voices coming from the downstairs living room. About a week later Lycaeus recalled the same night I woke up with that experience he said he woke up in the middle of the night and jerked off, for no reason, and was semi-conscious, and didn't even enjoy it. Again, very unlikely for Lycaeus to do this. Yet he has had this happen to him before. I think something may have connected between the drinking and different change in lifestyle, which would be meditating with the NEO Cube, and the sudden urge to start drinking. I also think the reason I mention this is I think there is a connection between demonic possession and sexual impulses.)

And back to the dream:
Lycaeus, his brother and some girl that I cannot pinpoint who it was and I, were standing in front of what appeared to be an abandoned house, which gave off a haunted kind of vibe. And we all decided to check the inside out. When we got in it was pretty bare and again, gave off a very odd haunted feeling. We then decided to go up the stairs and enter the master bedroom, which seemed to be very over sized for a normal size master. We stood in the room for what seemed no longer then ten seconds when we looked up at the top of the wall and saw Lycaeus nailed to the wall with only one hand nailed, and had his head tilted to the side and looked completely lifeless. Lycaeus then started to freak out and had to leave the house immediately. We ran down the stairs and I decided I wanted to stay but the left the house without question. Lyc and his brother and the girl got out way faster than me, then the door was closed and it was locked. I then tried to get out of the house as well but the door wouldn't open and was locked, so I started yelling and pounding on the door. I heard the other banging on the other side and yelling to and asking why I can't get out. By this point I was freaking out and didn't know what to do. I then turned around and looked at the top of the stairs and saw Lycaeus (#2) standing at the top of the stairs, looking straight at me. I woke up shortly after. (Mind you I was happy to be out of that). This was about two days ago and was during the time when I felt an all out hatred towards me from Lycaeus. But that's the dream.
Reflecting on the dream, it was almost made to make it look that Ly was dead to me, like a negative message.

There's a few more points we want to touch up on, but we need some sleep so we will write more about this tomorrow.

montalk

06-26-2013, 09:31 AM

Check yourself with a blacklight before you take a shower.

Make note of any irrational fears, reactions, or uneasiness you have in certain parts of your home that weren't there earlier today. Tomorrow night, make note of similar impressions around the time when you had your missing time the night before. Subconscious memory impressions may be leaking through.

Pay attention to your dreams tonight and the next few days, try to remember / write them down. Sometimes fragments come through dreams (although your fear may generate dreams that reflect your expectations. Still, worth catching any memory crumbs that show up in dreams).

Watch your cat for unusual behavior towards you or just in general. If he's hostile towards you, a bit more nervous than usual, etc. then that's a little more confirmation.

Check that none of the clocks/watches is unusually out of synch with the rest. I don't think abductions are sloppy enough to leave clocks messed up, but it doesn't hurt to check.

And try not to get too freaked out for too long, as that can sometimes start a feedback loop and create even more weirdness.

montalk

06-26-2013, 09:39 AM

By the way, I haven't talked about this before, but one phenomenon I noticed is that if I invest myself in something that is unreal, false, made up, a hoax, a delusion, etc. while believing it to be legitimate, then I become more vulnerable to being messed with by neg entities. And if I really push it hard and stubbornly, my life starts falling apart slowly at the seams.

In other words, directing my energy into untruth seems to feed/energize/attract certain forces. Maybe in betraying my spiritual integrity by believing in baloney despite knowing better deep down, I forfeit some protection or stability.

Anyway, if the NEO Cube turns out to be a hoax, then it could also act as a portal of negative influences via the mechanism I just mentioned. But not having used it myself, I remain neutral. Thanks for being the brave guinea pig and going first, ha.

lycaeus

06-26-2013, 05:50 PM

Ok I'll outline the little bit of what Freyr remembers from his dream last night. And then mention a few of the weird things that have been going on this week.

We woke up and feel hungover, like there was definitely drugs in our systems, even though we had such a good, sober day. Both of our pupils were still huge when we woke up.

BTW, I think the NEO cube is doing something, because it definitely puts you in trance. Don't think it is inherently negative. I think my calling out to talk to someone might have invited something in. That coupled with a little bit of alcohol the past week, which is rare. I think the falsity I was indulging in the past couple of days that might be making things worse was me believng Freyr was lying and stealing from me. I was emanating a lot of hate which is abnormal for me. It took a couple days to talk myself out of it. Freyr said for the 10 years he's known me I've never been like that, even though way worse things have happened. So something weird was going on we think. Idk if I recommend the cube really. All I can say is that it puts you into trance very easily.

We forgot to take some melatonin, but this is what Freyr remembers from his dream. It was triggered when I mentioned the name of an old friend, "Tara":
He remembered sitting on the couch in the living room, holding my cell phone almost expecting a call (for w/e reason). It said "Tara" was calling and he called out to tell me, but then thought '****, he's not even here'. So he nervously looked at the phone. Vaguely remembers talking to someone before the phone call. That's all he remembers.

When Freyr mentioned "Tara" I remembered, that yeah, I have a vague memory of her in my dream for some strange reason, but it's no more than a vague perception. I think drugs block or prevent your awareness of dreams...

Ok, so I looked at my phone an hour ago, and it says I missed a call from an 'Unknown Caller" around 11 30am. I just looked at my cell to check last nights calls, and noticed that 'unknown caller' history has just disappeared. wtf... and I never get many phone calls and can't remember the last unknown I got since I have call display... We also seen a weird white van with a weird guy drive around the house this morning, then drive away in the direction he was already going. Didn't turn around, or stop to knock on a door or anything, so that was weird. (We are a little paranoid now and taking note of things).

lycaeus

06-26-2013, 06:15 PM

9Oh yeah, I do not even have Tara saved on my new cell phone anymore. <shrug>...)

We're definitely focusing and relaxing ourselves, just have some fun today, go out in the sun...

I think the weird phone call last night (from the dream memory) might have been a programming cue, like a trigger word.

So here's a few little things about last week that might be connected:

:-I started drinking a little bit a week ago, just a random urge. Just a few beers and that is rare nowaddays. I also started meditating with the Neo Cube nearly every day. Freyr also got into some booze and drugs, randomly.

:-A couple of Freyr's old party friends came over to party with free drugs and alcohol, which is also uncommon for us. Honestly, nowadays...

:-My brother, who I haven't seen or talked to in a year, randomly calls, says he's crying out for help, needs a place to stay, because he had to quit his job. So he comes over, and brings free alcohol and stuff and stays for a few days. I drink a bit, and other people do some harder stuff. My bro is a partier so of course he invites a few random party girls over. One of which probably stole 50 bucks and started these accusations and paranoia in me against Freyr, my best friend.

:-Strangely, Freyr's money goes missing, a few hudred bucks. We also checked the internet bill and there is a few hundred dollars of payments unaccounted for, which makes no sense because we both went in to pay twice a month, and the office guy even said he saw some payments but there's some sort of error. So, it looks to me like Freyr is sneaking money away and lying, but we've had a lot of sober talks, and I've verified with other witnesses that he's telling the truth of his innocence. It's just weird coincidences.

:-It's weird my bro came over because he quit his job for some strange reason, almost lost his nice apartment from not paying, then after he influenced me to be against Freyr, his boss called crying that they wanted him back, and his landlord said don't worry about money, we miss you bud... Now who the hell gets away with not paying rent, randomly quitting their awesome job, then getting begged to come back. He visits me for a few days out of a year of not talking to me. He invites a girl he hasn't seen in 6 years, and everyone encourages me to accuse Freyr, spinning accusations and stories against him. And I actually hated him for no reason, until I came to my senses yesterday, now we're fine like we always have been. Except for the weird night last night.

Oh yeah, I've introduced him to a lot of cool fringe, wake up/conspiracy ideas that he's interested in, now he's reading books, we talk about things and it's a positive friendsship. I think forces are trying to break up a potentially very constructive relationship, intellectually, emotionally, financially, musically, we help each other out a lot.

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I noticed last night that I was extremely afraid of my own bedroom and was no way in hell sleeping in the basement alone, which is abnormal. We felt scared in our own house. (And I've been sleeping great the past month or so). Our bodies felt completely drugged, though we should have been stone cold sober. We proved our psychic senses we're activated to a degree, maybe from drugs or presence of psychic alien? We see a weird guy approach us last night, as well as a random unmarked parked van. Similar dream memories, strange disapppearing phone call today. Missing time, and a KNOWINGNESS that something wrong has happened, genuine bodily fear or PTSD symptoms.

We'd both love to just get on with our lives, but we have to write our thoughts down and sort some things through. I think we were abducted, possibly to maybe program us to break away from each other, which has happened in my past which I wrote about. Different lifestyle changes the past week involving random partyers, drugs, alcohol and meditation with neo cube, missing money were also other strange notables.

If anyone has any insights or thinks we're missing something, opinions or verifications, by all means let us know. My opinion is we were drugged and abducted.

I'm also going to take a break from tranced out meditations, in case that is an avenue for a dark spiritual to attach.

lycaeus

06-26-2013, 06:22 PM

I also wanted to mention that I got a reading from the Psychic Focus website. I still have to give her some feedback and go over some things. I will probably post her audio or transcribe the reading to text if she's cool with that and post it.

I gave her a test question to describe my cat, and lo and behold, she got an accurate description which verified she is definitely a REAL psychic, though not crystal clear.

One interesting thing though.

I asked her if I was a starseed. She said that not in this life, I don't have ET blood, but in a past life I was a mix of ET and human. She got the number 8 or 88, so maybe 88 past lives ago I did have a mix of ET/human DNA according to her. She said that I have carried this information or energy in my soul and that is why some people are interested in me, and that I DEFINITELY FEEL something watching me. I think that makes some sense.

lycaeus

06-26-2013, 07:37 PM

Another thing I remembered and forgot to mention:

When I lived with JC, one night we randomly felt high and psychic. That night JC thought someone open and closed the front door, even though it was locked. He also heard footsteps and was paranoid someone was in the house. We stayed up that whole night and just stared at paintings as if we were stoned, laughing, philosophizing. Also went for a walk around time that felt like a psychedelic trip, like last night. . .

Ok so we checked every square inch of our bodies in white and black light. No fluorescent marks, but Freyr found a triangle mark on his leg. It is raised, red, a little scabby and hurts when it's touched. Some pics:

http://chronus97.imgur.com/all/

lycaeus

06-29-2013, 04:37 PM

I added some newer pictures of Freys's triangular mark. (http://chronus97.imgur.com/all/)It's gotten more distinct in the past 2 days. You can see the 3 prong marks which resemble a mark I found on myself before. He says it hurts to touch, that the bruising is deeper than it looks, like it's a scab under the skin. I wonder why I didn't find any marks. I thought maybe I already have easier programming cues, like trigger-words maybe? That's an unsettling thought.

Anyways I just wanted to do a little update on how we're feeling these couple days after the abduction.

The day right after we were hungover and still fairly drugged up, but burnt out and exhausted. We felt like zombies all day and had no energy to really enjoy ourselves. Our minds were pretty dull and we weren't ourselves. I also noticed I didn't want to be home at all. So I was out for most of the 2 days after the event. But I didn't feel that overwhelming fear like I did the first night, I can sleep in my room fine now, like usual. The night it happened is when we were really fearful.

My cat Ginge is the same old Ginge, wide-eyed, talkative, relaxed and nonchalant. The dogs are normal, no peculiarities with the animals I've noticed.

The day of the abduction I quit smoking! :) I was a pack-a-day chain-smoker, and the past 4 days I haven't had a single cigarette, they're gross now. I got my e-cig in the morning before the abduction, and I have no desire to smoke those disgusting things, no craving, I just puff that constantly and feel amazing about it. Never thought quitting would be so easy, it doesn't take much willpower. I love the e-cig and liquid nicotine vapour.

Emotionally, mentally, Freyr and I are a little bit changed. I can only speak for myself, but Freyr agrees with me when I describe my mindset that he feels very similar. I notice I have a lot of cold rage, like anger I don't know where to properly express. My awareness level is more awake now, probably from trauma of some sort.(if it was military, they say they're worse than ET). We are both strangely assertive, straightforward and confident. We don't have that nervous quiver in our voices that would happen now and then. Basically, we are not taking any crap from anyone or anything right now. I have zero patience lately for any trivialities it seems, we're just speaking our minds without hesitation. We've had some casual beers but it's not a fun party kind of drinking. More of a quiet, sit-around and talk openly and honestly at night, like we're trying to relax and process things. I don't feel guilty like I normally would, I think the alcohol helped a little with our nerves and anger. Don't plan on being an alcoholic though...

The day after I got a call from my mom about my brother having a depressive insanity attack. He just got his job back and his problems (repressed emotions from too much partying) just exploded this past waning full moon. There was broken glass, furniture and blood everywhere. (He's fine though, no major injuries). He was caught hanging out his apartment window doing pull-ups, which is nuts because there is practically no grip to hold onto there. We went and picked him up, now he's back in the family's area where he has multiple homes to stay at where he can relax and heal and forget the job because other things are more important. He's welcome at my house so long as he controls the partying, which I hope he does, but if he doesn't, then sorry bro... I told him that we'd been having strange paranormal problems. He believes and listens, doesn't laugh, but he puts his head down and changes the subject, easily distracted, like he's not really interested. He did read a bit of Mac Tonnies though and is interested, he's just too busy/distracted with social life.

What else... um, I got an offer for college for web design which I accepted. Applying for loans now. My job interview also went well, so I might have some easy part-time work at American Eagle at the mall. Freyr also synchronistically ran into his old boss (before the abduction) and has a good job lined up in a week or so. Financial problems are solved now, everything seems good lately, positive changes all 'round. Except we are both pretty lazy lately just lacking motivation, quite apathetic it seems.

And no clocks in the house were/are messed up or off. There was really a couple hours at least of missing time. Just glad my interview wasn't the day after because she would have wrote me off as a druggie, it was very noticeable, the drug effects.

Another interesting coincidence is my Psychic Focus Request Report. The first thing the psychic got about me was the random word 'psychedelic'. Turns out she did the reading around the same time as our missing time episode. So she was probably tuning into my energy in real-time and picking up the drugging effects on my body. That's what I think it was, though it could have meant something else.

lycaeus

07-02-2013, 12:07 AM

The last posts I just wanted to note some changes and document them with dates. That way I can go back and see if there are any patterns with these events.

The psychic went over some things about my reading:

Fluorescence: This is used to measure the level of a person's energy level, where they're at. She said the energy level fluctuates throughout the day. She saw the aura around my body immediately light up when thinking about this, like a glowing burst of light. (Reminds me of when the Cassiopaeans talked about 'Frequency Resonance Vibration'. I wonder if they're testing spiritual integrity to see if higher metaphysical laws permit them or not to interfere.)
Triangle Marks: First thing she got was something like 'a point of entry and point of exit.' Like an electrical shockwave went through the body used as some sort of testing as to how the shock went through. Similar to the recoil of a gun traveling back through the shooter's arm and through the body. Something went in and something went out. A burn or static charge. A jolt of static went through the body as either an exit or entry point.
Who's abducting me?: She kept getting Greys for that answer and seemed pretty sure about it. She sees us as an experiment to them and they won't interfere with us unless it's extremely important or dangerous, and that they're very curious about us as an experiment. (Little different from my own beliefs).
Why are they abducting me?: Apparently my energy is like a beacon to them for several reasons: I have an old, well-learned soul. I was the descendant of an ET and human interaction 88 past lives ago and have kept that energy in my soul through my lives up until this one. I also have very diluted alien DNA in me and they are attracted to that, apparently.

She also said that I do a lot of spiritual learning by astral traveling out of my body and a lot of these interactions are astral. She got a clear message to tell me to look in a mirror when I am out of my body and that will help in some way. She said I create another body for myself when out of the physical body and it is a truer reflection of my soul.

So that helped a bit and was good to know. Leaves me thirsting for more knowledge and understanding though.

lycaeus

07-03-2013, 03:49 PM

About the 'scoop marks'. I'm pretty sure they were from my zapper and not a monsterish alien. I noticed they appeared when I put in a new strong battery, and I get little scabs the more I wear it on my ankle. So I put it on the sole of my foot now and no marks. I just got a little paranoid and proposed they were abduction marks, but I doubt it. However, I think I deserve a little leeway for being a little paranoid because I have experienced 'paranormal' things and strange synchronicities. But for the future I told my brain to be more logical next time :)

Also, Freyr and I are having trouble sleeping lately since the latest incident. It's that paranoid 'roll-over and look-over-your-shoulder' impulse that's near impossible to shake without distracting yourself. It's funny, now he knows what I meant in the past when I said I had trouble sleeping so he apologized for his simplistic advice he used to give me lol. A couple nights ago Freyr was tossing and turning all night and slept through most of the day.

Reading and melatonin helps. There's definitely some knowledge in our bodies that is provoking these fears. A couple weeks ago I posted on here saying I was doing fine, sleeping great and things calmed down. Then the incident and these symptoms.

lycaeus

07-06-2013, 04:36 PM

I should have mentioned this the day after the abduction. I had a spot in the middle of my forehead that felt sore when I rubbed it. Freyr noticed a red mark and it became more apparent the more I touched it. It felt like there was a little swollen bruise under the skin. We took some pictures but it wouldn't show up well enough to look like anything.

This paragraph from Fore's old forum thread reminded me of it:

She said typically the tools would cause tears in human tissues such as bone found on the forehead just above the nose (literal expression, yes.) but she said that surface tissues would not be affected. She then went on to say that typically the arms that she is describing puts the tissues back together with a high accuracy(microscopic precision). She said that when done, the person might have some tissue that is bruised just below the surface for a few days while it heals.

lycaeus

07-09-2013, 06:35 AM

I wanted to make a note of this.

(turned out longer than I thought it would. Amazing how your mind gets going once you turn i t on)

When I first learned of aliens 6 years ago I wondered if I was part Grey, with my weird shaped head and all. I emailed Montalk and he suggested I beware of the tricks the Grey's use. I think that thought could have been a simple implanted thought by the greys to lead me astray or keep me confused.

I've also thought a lot about the idea of Wanderers and ET souls. So I thought that might be part of who I am. I have impulses to feel special or 'alienated' more than I'd like to admit so I have to watch the ego and potential delusions there.

I just read this quote from an article about Jim Sparks' abductions with bad and evil grey aliens:

Eventually the lights came on and “the supervisor led me to
a full length mirror. He stood me in front of the mirror and said,
LOOK. The ﬁgure in the mirror was me, only altered. My hair is
dark brown, full and thick. The image showed me with thin dark
brown hair mixed with blond. My chin seemed pointier. My image had no eyebrows and my moustache was gone. My eyes were
slightly larger and my body more frail.”
Jim says Budd Hopkins suggested the purpose of the mirror
exercise “was to make me believe I was one of them.” Quite so. I
take it as a mild version of the identity replacement used with most abductees. They are told their mother is an alien, or their father is
an alien, or they are secretly married to an alien, or they were an
alien in a previous life, or they carry alien genes, and several other
variations. In this manner the abductee is provided with a new
identity which bonds him to the alien civilization and detaches his
identity to the human race. Perhaps in Jim’s case as time goes on
he will be given a more fully
blown version of the story,
whose purpose is to persuade
the abductee that “you are really one of us.”

That reminded me of the dream when I saw myself in a slightly older, better body (with nice long hair). IDK what that was really about though.

The psychic said that a lot of my strange experiences are in the astral where I have a different body. Fore's Adviser said this happens when ETs interact with humans, it can be in a psychic state of awareness out of the body. So maybe that was my astral body or maybe it was some sort of manipulation to get my mind thinking in the wrong direction, though I think it was actually astral.

James Rink also says he has reptilian and Pleiadean DNA in him, though that's hard to believe. Maybe a little bit of genetic modification is more likely in his case (it's a possibility)...or maybe it's a lie? Fore stresses that an actual human/et hybrid would be way beyond normal expectations, and with his lengthy encounter experiences his opinion is worth something on that subject.

James mentioned a few times to me that my genes were probably messed with as part of the reptilian genetic experiments. Though that's hard to believe because I am no advancement of human evolution by any means and am quite clumsy, forgetful and unmotivated a lot of the time.

Though there are statements that some MILABS and SuperSoldiers have genetic alterations. Like in James Rink's interview with a MILAB named Krista, she apparently has some dolphin genes in her. And her voice does sound a bit dolphinesque if you ask me. Aaron McCollum's an alleged S.Soldier who claims to have dolphin genes. Also White Wolf Von Atzigen was a mind-controlled super-assassin who makes a decent case for proposing he was mixed with wolf DNA in this life and a past life in other genetic experiments (esp. with his abnormal physical strength and speed). [Also, I noticed Duncan O'Finian has a pic. of a wolf on his wall in an interview..]

Animal programming is used in mind control experiments as well. I asked the psychic if my obsession and identification with wolves had to do with any possible programming on me and she said that she got nothing regarding that. Just that I really resonated with the energy of the wolf. That makes sense to me, I guess.

She as an accurate psychic but who knows if something was blocking her or interfering with the info. she was receiving. She couldn't get much more than my own vague memory of 'the white light' andd said nothing of my mysterious memory of being electrocuted from the head down on a metal table with beings around me. The flashback made my body physically shake up out of sleep. But she said I was a hybrid many lives ago...

[[ I also had a couple synchronicities and subtle confirmations that I was Queen Anne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain) in a past life. That sounds crazy so I won't make too much of it but it would make sense that a hybrid soul would reincarnate into a hybrid bloodline such as British Royalty. The psychic said they are interested in me because of my past life(/lives?). Also, Queen Anne had 12 pregnancies that didn't make it to birth so I thought immediately that might indicate alien baby harvesting like in abduction cases today. There are also facial and personlity parallels of her and my life but I'll leave it at that and keep it on the back burner as an amusing possibility ]]

I think that's possible but it could have been some sort of misinformation to get me to identify with my abductors who likely could be Greys. That might explain the odd head-shape though if I carried that memory in my soul, since Nordics are said to have bigger heads, as well as Greys.

But I am for some reason obsessed with information on aliens for whatever reason. In kindergarten I wanted to study ancient, mysterious civilizations and dinosaurs and suddenly started reading about Atlantis, then conspiracies and alien-stuff. Always been obsessed with the mysteries and aliens especially since then. This might be related to past life memories.

But I don't think I'm obsessed because it boosts my ego like it might for some researchers who feel proud knowing special information thinking they are so smart. I occasionally catch myself questioning my sanity about this. This research doesn't make me friends or help me move up socially or in normal life at all. It actually makes it more of a challenge o organize my time for my personal goals.

Though I can't seem to shake the attraction and I feel the time spent researching is meaningful and worthwhile to me. Actually the psychic said that when I think about aliens or 'Them' that my energy or body lights up and it raises my vibration in some way. (I do feel a bit more aware and less weighted down by normal or fashionable ways of thinking/being/lifestyles when I think about aliens and ponder the possible ramifications of living in 'The Matrix').

I think in my case what explains it is that I have probably been abducted multiple times throughout my life. My guess is by aliens and human military. The memories are stored in my subconscious and it biases my conscious mind as to what my interests are and what I am attracted to. Hence why I'm at this forum and related sites all the time.

These experiences would also be unconscious trauma sitting in my psyche. Now THAT would really explain some things in my life. Especially my psychological and emotional difficulties I went through that were not experienced at all by my twin brother. (Having a twin brother to compare yourself to is interesting because you grow up in the same environment- though maybe my environment was different with the abductions part). Especially my eccentricity, anxiety and that kind of thing. Maybe that's a big reason why I'm so open to metaphysics, esotericism and aliens because deep down I know there is a huge piece of reality that we are being lied to about. It really does bug me when abductees get ridiculed and feel isolated, I take it personally.

I have no proof really, but there's enough there for a knowledgeable and open-minded researcher to put the puzzle pieces together somewhat.

montalk

07-09-2013, 09:56 AM

If you did have an alien soul (theoretically speaking) then since you'd only have a vague impression of it, such a thing would be very easy for alien enemies to make you think: yes indeed you are an alien...you're one of them!!! What I mean is that they'd have an easier time hijacking a half-remembered truth than to present a total lie. Would be more readily accepted than if they said you were a unicorn. Although going by what some abductees are made to believe, that wouldn't be too hard either.

No doubt aliens use that trick, but I wouldn't totally rule out the idea of alien souls in human bodies either. Babies aren't born as blank slates. Some seem to be born with inclinations and talents that genetics and environment alone can't account for. They brought it with them from somewhere/somewhen. And it's one thing when traits suggest former fighter pilot or fireman or broadway dancer ... another when they're acting like little aliens or time travelers from the future, ha.

Garuda

07-09-2013, 12:47 PM

FWIW: plenty of 'past life regression' sessions have revealed previous lifetimes that people have had on other worlds.

lycaeus

07-09-2013, 05:34 PM

FWIW: plenty of 'past life regression' sessions have revealed previous lifetimes that people have had on other worlds.
That's true. Dolores Cannon has a lot of writings to back that one up. Oh yeah that reminds me of a little thing I was going to add:

In one of her books, she is hypnotically regressing someone. Apparently she is talking to 'The Soul' or 'The Subconscious' but sometimes something/someone else interferes for whatever reason. This happens a lot in channeling, though I think most of her work is good and informative.

It was funny though because in the middle of this one session you can hear the hypnotized person speaking, saying 'Ok, so uh, what should we tell her?'.. It was so obvious that some other personality was interfering there. I don't think an 'AllKnowing Spirit' or subconscious would say something like that... I bring that up because of my references to the information I obtained from the psychic, to not just believe them firsthand.

But past life regression is something I would love to do, so long as I know the hypnotist knows what they're doing.

Hypnotherapy to recover abductions is another thing. A part of me says I want to know it all, get to the truth, release the memory into the conscious mind, process and get over it. But another part of me really questions if I would be able to handle it. Would it really explain everything to me, answer all my questions? Or would it just leave me with more questions along with some scary memories? The fear I felt after the abduction with Freyr really made me reconsider wanting to know the real truth.

Maybe uncovering the (possibly) horrible memories would give me confidence, understanding and righteous anger to channel into constructive activities. Then again it might haunt my mind making me feel scared and powerless. Finding weird marks on you and reading abduction stories is more than enough to keep you on your toes. Though I can see myself doing hypnotherapy in the future at some point.

btw i definitely do not think i'm an alien hybrid by any means.

Eve Lorgen suggested that Military Abductors look for what is called (I think) an 'Active Alien Mind Implant' that is in certain abductees who have been in contact with ETs. Reminds me of what Fore said about spirituals putting a piece of their Influence in your body/influence field/etheric/astral-body.

lycaeus

07-22-2013, 03:42 PM

A couple things from last night.

I wrote an article to myself called 'Putting The Matrix Puzzle Pieces Together'. It talked about aliens, conspiracy, demons, cloning, ancient history, wars and darkness versus the light. At the end in the last paragraph I was writing about spiritual warfare and the need to strengthen our hearts and minds. Then I got a throbbing sensation in the centre of the forehead for a few seconds (steady), it stopped for a second, then again for a few seconds, then stopped. It was strange because I pretty much never get steady headaches but in retrospect I get a lot of random pulses like that, especially in the third eye area. I don't know if it's a being connecting to me or if my third eye is activating in some way?

When dozing off to sleep I heard a voice. I'd bet a million dollars that this was another entity and definitely not my own random internal dialogue. It was an older female with a slight British Accent (very inviting). She said "Would you like to know exactly what is going on with you?"

I got startled, opened my eyes, rolled over and looked around. I was just about to fall asleep but now was very excited. I closed my eyes and tried to calm my thoughts to communicate. A few words were exchanged but they weren't as definitive as the first message so the following could have been my own mind <shrug>. Maybe because I was no longer in a sleepy, sensitive trance I couldn't bridge the communication.

Me: Who are you?
It: I'm here to answer your questions.
Me: Was I abducted?
It: Yes.
Me: By who?
It: The Greys of course.
Me: Waaaaait a second, you didn't tell me who you were. Are you a demon? I want nothing to do with that kind, so if you are you're not welcome. {pause} I ask my guides to please remove any demonic entity from my surroundings, thank you. I want nothing to do with them, however, if there is a positive, benevolent alien with my best interests at heart, an angel or a guide that can help me then I'm more than happy to communicate. {I was getting anxious to talk to someone, I really wanted to. I tried to keep my eyes closed and calm my thoughts.}

I asked if someone was there and who they were. They said 'Leyahna' and I got the impression of a good-looking Nordic female. That name is curious because it's similar to the being I thought I was communicating with when I meditated with the Neo Cube. My impression was of an Insectoid/Grey named 'Lyonz'.

I then asked how do I know this is an actual being and not just my thoughts. I then got the perception of a Grey alien's face clear into my mind, and that startled me. I opened my eyes and it took me a while to get some sleep. I don't remember my dreams unfortunately, but I had a wet dream last night. Sorry for the crude thought (again). I don't want to leave things out though because I think there's a connection to sexual urges with things like demonic activity and mind control programming. Like my memory last year of waking up with someone beside my bed holding a device that stimulated me sexually while I heard the words "All my millions of friends..." whatever that means, but it could be some form of mind programming.

lycaeus

07-23-2013, 03:35 AM

It seems possible that a being in the house affected my room mate last night as well. He had a wet dream as well followed by an explosive experience on the toilet at 2 am (apologies :biggrin2:). We both rarely if ever have those kinds of dreams. Last one I remember I thought a demon perverted my deamscape and felt a negative presence in the room. Only other one I remember was a few years ago where my current room mate lived down the street from me also had one for whatever reason. I think maybe a demon can connect and influence people who are close to each other energetically such as friends, even though they're physically distanced.

Reflecting on last night I thought that an attractive Nordic female like I visualized who is willing to explain my questions would be the perfect costume for a negative force to gain my trust and influence my life, or feed on me. Maybe I'm attracting these experiences by focusing on them and reading similar stories, I don't know. Or maybe I'm just becoming aware of some subtle things in my life I never paid much attention to in the past. I don't know for sure what beings are interfering in my life. But I am suspecting various demons, human military abductors and greys for whatever reason. It does bug me not knowing so I am seriously considering going for hypnotic regression to try and remember what's happened at certain times.

lycaeus

07-24-2013, 01:30 AM

Have a little bump on left of bottom lip. Been there for over a week. Couple days ago someone said it looked like a pinhole. Doesn't seem to be a pimple, never had one right on the lip there before. Hasn't gotten bigger or smaller. Reminds me of James Rink's needle marks on his lips. 1mm diameter. Could be anything.

lycaeus

07-26-2013, 06:49 AM

Another little thing... about Trent the Canadian Irish Nazi crazy guy... maybe another puzzle piece who knows.

In a video of the MILABs supersoldier James Casbolt, he kept raising his right hand up, it looked like an unconscious habit. Trent used to do that all the time in the car.

Whenever there was a close call with a yellow light, or someone cutting us off, or any close call on the road. He would kiss his right hand and then raise it as far as he could to tap the roof of the car. Pretty much every drive he'd do it, like every day. It always seemed weird and he wouldn't explain it, 'just a thing [he'd do].' Makes me wonder if it's some kind of unconscious Nazi programming running through him as if he was a MILAB. Yeah I could easily picture him being some sort of abductor, good with weapons, martial arts, intelligence, some psychicness and urban military tactics. He was way too street smart and knew all kinds of tricks like a military Macgyver or something. Sometimes there'd be uc's in dark cars around the whole block when we went out, but that could be due to his past not necessarily milab related. Don't know if I mentioned it but some of his jokes entailed stuff like '...when you wake up in the middle of a forest covered in blood and you have no idea what happened'. Strange guy indeed.

lycaeus

07-28-2013, 07:16 PM

Mind Control.

I think I may have undergone some programming. I've always been obsessed with alice in wonderland and had a fondness for the wizard of oz which is a little hint if you're familiar with any of Frits Springmeier's work or other similar authors. I mean when I was 18 I'd even be trying to convince gangsters and bikers to sit down and watch alice in wonderland, the kiddy version with me.

Another thing is my fascination with wolves, since as long as I can remember, they've been my favourite animal. Lone Wolf programming has to do with self-destruction, I think when a victim starts waking up. It also might indicate vigilante programming which also has to do with self-destruction. My username 'lycaeus' was chosen because I wanted a cool name related to wolves, but then later learned Mount Lycaeus was a place of cannibalism, ritual sacrifice and shapeshifting into wolves in Greek Mythology. Reminds me of White Wolf Von Atzigen and his talks about his mind control programming and genetic manipulation related to wolves as well as him being involved in satanic rituals against his conscious will. Also reminds me of Project Lycan that James Casbolt/Michaels Prince talked about as a milabs program (i think). Lycan is also a code word for shape-shifter, and maybe that has something to do with shifting alter personalities? IDK, just brainstorming here.

Another hint is clothing. Wearing black might indicate mind control. If you knew me, you'd see that 90% of what I wear is black t-shirt, black hat, blue jeans, black shoes and black bracelet (Lakhovsky-Cable-Style :cool: ) black ring and black choker necklace. IDK why, it's just me but I'm going to try some other colours as much as I hate it. Choker necklaces might symbolize slave-ownership, or slave mentality. So I ripped the damn thing off my neck and through it in the trash. I loved the style a lot and will miss it, but it feels really good to throw it away :cool: .

Then there's my doodlings. I am not a visual artist I am a musician, so I rarely doodle or draw anymore. When I was in school around paper and pens all the time, the only thing I'd really draw were 5-Pointed stars. Probably did a million of them. The past 4/5 years I'm more into 7-Pointed Stars. That's just about the only thing I'd ever doodle, 90% of it. And it's a compulsive habit. Though I'd sometimes doodle random, flowing, curvy spiralling lines that twist, wrap and intersect...spirals can bring you close to higher dimensions. Also checkerboards, geometric abstractions, triangles and yin yangs if it's not a compulsive star, but it usually it is whenever i draw.

And I have that OCD thing with visualizing pentagrams and toning specific vowel sounds by flexing muscle joints, moving my tongue, tapping utensils around dishes and stuff like that. Chanting or toning vowel sounds and pentagrams are used in occult ritual, like the satanic kind. I practice wiping the damn stars away and throwing the imaginary mess into a fire consciously and with a clear intent.

I'm also into looking at mirrors A LOT. It's partly vanity unfortunately, but it's weird, i just have to look in a mirror whenever there is one and sometimes wonder who's on the other side. That's talked about in Monarch Programming, for example Marilyn Monroe's apartment was full of not much else but a crapload of mirrors everywhere. And that reminds me, ever heard of that new age stuff about determining whether or not you're a starchild/indigo/lightworker. One of the 'supposed indicators' is that you look into the mirror and wonder who you are. That MAY be a programming to get mind-control victims to reinforce 'special chosen-one' programs put into them. <shrug>

So I wonder if these dreams with demons at alters underground, with candles and skulls have anything to do with anything. I've heard a lot of programming is actually done astrally. Some dreams even might be programming dreams via the Beast Supercomputers, such as the first dream I posted in this thread that I thought was an abduction.

I also view myself, sometimes, as competing identities which might indicate alters programming, though everyone has that to some extent due to our different brain hemispheres including the reptilian brain, division of emotional/intellectual/physical components of our being, and different ego personalities we use in different situations. With me though it can seem a bit unintegrated or traumatically fractured. Working on that though.

So my room mate and I both received triangle burns. That is like how handlers use shock-wands to 'zap' you into different alter personalities. Even words can trigger different alters, such as a milab answering a phone call then hearing a trigger word maybe spliced with hypnotic ELF waves (or something like that) to get them to walk like a stupefied zombie out into the hands of an abductor. This is why constantly reinforcing, and emphasizing conscious awareness and alertness at all times is so important for abductees.

My last abduction with my room mate I didn't find any burn marks on myself, just him but I've found them before. Maybe that's because they're already installed trigger words and don't need the shocking. Plus, the mysterious disappearing phone call, and another call with a specific name that would be sure to get me to pick up.

Also terrified of dolls and don't like clowns or those theatrical porceleinesque style face masks. Put a porcelain doll in my room and I will smash it I don't care how much someone paid for it.

Some other clues that have been suggested someone might be involved in one of 'their' programs: having a twin...and feeling like a complete unrelated stranger in your own entire family unlike everyone else there. my grandfather was also a mason, unsure what degree though i never talked to him. some military in the family, but not much, at least one war veteran.

lycaeus

07-28-2013, 07:18 PM

So I've decided to start investigating 13 Cubed which is a book by S. Swerdlow about mind-control victim's experiences. He's a weird guy and I don't know about him.... but the experiences should be interesting. I found this writing about it. Also talks about aliens too!:

I was recently reading 13 cubed by Stewart Swerdlow. It was like going into the twlight zone. 13 cases stories of mind control. After reading it he analyse these individuals afther they tell their stories some horiffic. But out of these stories I get the complete agenda of the Illuminati of total and complete control of humanity and disenters will be eliminated without mercy. They are attempting to create a new human race genetically that will be compliant and active slaves in the Future New World Religion. Many will be triggered or one of their alters or sub personalites will take charge and activate and fullfill their part in the New World Religion.

Example: Stalker programing are where alter acts like spys that can record exacting details of their environment and this info can be retreived by the handler to identify enemies of the Illuminati.

Vigilante programing are alters that seek out their target and terminate them and then kill themselves due to another layer of programing that kicks in called the termination program where they kill themselves so the secrets of the Illuminati are protected. In this programing they imprinted this poor individual with feeling like a victim and every damn bully in town was attracted to this persons specifiic mind pattern and these bullies beat him up constantly. Latter in life he was planning on taking them out by Sniper. He even beatup kids who were weaker then himself. This continually reinforece this mind pattern of always feeling like a victim, everybody hates me it reinforced so that he was no longer the victim but became the oppressor that is what his alter was programed for to kill the Illuminatis enemies without emotion or mercy then terminate himself. The basis of mind control is after they broken you into alters is that they can specifically hook a particular program function into your base mind pattern that exist from other life streams. This method was done for specifically programed individuals who were watched and studied. The general population is done by satellites that ring the earth that do this at night around 2am to 4am via ELF energy bombardment which is increase day by day. Programing is downloaded just about everynight when you sleep. So deprogramming is constant work. You really have take control of your mind by knowing how to connect and talk to your OverSoul and GodMind is your only salvation from within yourself. The Illuminati would have you chase the outerworld for your answers all your life and never find them. Also genetics plays an important role typically the Blood Hair, blue eyed group due to a chemical in their body that makes them easy to program.

Usually when these Monarch Slaves try to deprogram a sabotage (like becomming ill or very sick) or suicide program kicks in to make them stop trying to get control of their life. Stewart say's deprograming such individuals is something you don't play around with carelessly otherwise the death of the person life will haunt you. He has had a least one such case of individual who he was helping to deprogram but this individual termination program activated and he killed themselves but Stewart doesn't want to experiance that again. He says people that are good candiates to help deprogram people are the ones themselves that have truely made the effort to deprogram themselves because they will know what to expect and how to see the signs of trigger and controling these and shutting down their own programing and reintegrating oneself when they are helping the other person. Stewart say's you have to be very alert because anything can happen since he has been doing this for 25 years helping himself and others and knows the do and don't in deprograming individuals. Some are successfull and many just give up since they can't fight their internal programers one programing alter that is monitoring things keeping deprogramers from tampering with the orignal programers work. It works in the background and the programed individal doesn't know of it existance and his life to him seems normal but if he attempts to deprogram himself then his internal god come online to force him away from anyone that is tampering with his program.

13 cubed is mathematical term for say 13x13x13 = 2,197 alters or virtual cube matrix that can be created when the original Soul Personality that entered this physical realm is fractured by trauma, pain, abuse such as Sexual and any thing will be used to break these indivduals into sub personalities of their original true self that entered this world which are the basic makeup of their total selfs and durring deprograming have to be slowly and with caution put back together as the orginal. That recovering all their orignal faculties like memory and reintegrate them so they are fully in control of their life and make their own decision without interference from an external controller or handler.

Usually a person that has an issue before he came here to be a human such as myself like abandonment issues, low self worth and other simlar mind patterns which I am alone am responsible for in creating this mind pattern from other life streams that draws me to my parents at birth such as my mom who left me around six due to emotional problems went into the hospital for nervous problems. My mom was merely the catalyst or means for me to feel abandoned more so in this life as a Soul personality that had this in my mind pattern of me feeling like I was abandoned by God-Mind and OverSoul when I was sent out you could image what I was thinking why do I have to leave I feel abandoned which attracted me to those who would fullfill my new mind pattern of abandonment no fault of my mom even though she has issue of victimization herself that attracted me to her as my mom in this life stream. Basically continue the cycle of being a victim which needs to be broken and begin to correct not only in this life stream but the next and throughtout entenity and merge with my other selves and reintegrate back into OverSoul via Life streams since in the end we will merge into God-Mind who in true reality is the only true Soul that exist and we are its Soul Personalties extensions of itself wanting know more about itself and we are on a mission. The mission may be God-Mind wants to know what is it like to feel abandoned and what is the solution to this abandonment. He had to compartmentalize himself in me to know what is it truely like to be abandoned since in essence he is the only true soul who is alone with his infinite thought creations to explore within himself since their is no external world to himself but within since it is nothing but mind of pure energy and pure thought. He wants to know at all times these and many things in away know completely who and what it is and infinitely more so. This is one of the reasons Stewart insist on people doing release work to forgive people in order to release that person and keep another layer from being added to our base mind pattern of feeling abandoned so now I working on increasing my awarness to God-Mind within and talking to my OverSoul about issues and solutions to change my mind pattern from one of feeling like God abandoned me to one of feeling secure and connects to my source knowing that I am always throughout entenity will be connected and can never be disconnected. Which is God-Minds solution to now begin my journey of reintegrating myself into my other selves or personalities and have greater and greater awarness of my connection to God-Mind being to experiance greater things in each life stream as I move back to OverSoul and it back to God-mind as all OverSouls will do and all its Soul Personalities. In essence all of God Minds Soul Personalities are multiple personalities of itself exploring itself.

Mind Control is a vast and complicated subject that can not be covered in one book alone but it is enough to give you the basic understanding of what is going on especially with Monarch Slaves in all walks of life including your favorite movie, country and rock icons. Many of them probably walk amongst you not knowing what they will do next when triggered with the right word, frequency of sound , color since anything can trigger you like movies and cartoons.

Currently the Illuminati Families are at War Such as the Windsors that control the USA, The Romonovs control Russia and Iran, and the Rothchilds that control the Asian regions. Under them are a council of 300 families that are sevants to the bloods lines and do their bidding.

I can tell you this it will be comming to a climax pretty soon and time is short since they are ritualistic creatures 2012 appears to be their time to rule. Their is still the other group of beings in the Kuipers belt along with the 4th Reich at Antartica in their continuation to rebuild the Lyraen Empire that once flourished in the center of our Galaxy but was viciously attacked by the Reptillians since what was in the Lyraen mind pattern that attracted these reptillians otherwise they would not of attacked the Lyraen star system. It is the same problem we have today one of feeling like victim is the problem that attracts them since they feed on this.

lycaeus

07-28-2013, 07:18 PM

the rest of it:

At one time the Lyraens were a unified people but latter split into 12 races and thought one was better then the other. This story is told with half truths in BattleStar Galactica of the all seeing red eye of the Cylons viciously attacked the 12 worlds. The cylons being in reality the Reptilians attacking but in reality the 12 races scattered throught our galaxy one group probably came to Maldek that use to be between Mars and Juptier now an asteroid belt. The other group went to Mars. A renegade group of one of the 12 the brown skined Atlanteans colonized Earth when it was already first colonized by the Pure strain of the Reptilian race. The first group of Atlanteans that arived thought maybe they got here first but to their suprise and horror discovered the arch enemy the reptillians were here and we the Atlanteans race will not forgive the Reptillans who attacked our star empire so they delcared war on them first and wanted to wipe them off the face of the earth and erradicate them. This is what fuels the 4th Reich and their Allies but in the proccess of not fixing their mind patterns victimization they have become just as bad as the Reptillian oppressors and their ridding the planet earth of these present day Reptillian controllers and bring in a worst foe of humanity that also has used mind control in the past to control people and wish to rebuild the old Lyraen empire using Eugenics of the original Genetics of Blood Hair , Blue Eyed Aryan race of super beings. The other lyran genetics was Red Hair, Green Eyes who were higly Psychic this was associated with the cherokee and phonecian people. The Plans of the Illuminati is a staged alien invasion while a savior alien race would come in and chase the bad aliens away of course they will be Reptillian. They will bring in a clone christ originaly taken from the genetics of the original Immanuel who was actually an alien visitor from a far who came to work with a select group of people the story is much similar to the present day distorted new testament version but is told in way that is fresh and provocative and no where near like the story of the fabricated story of Jesus Christ is told. After they usher in the New World Religion all will be forced to participate in the very perverse SexMagic Ritual mainly so the Illuminati can alter reality and change time and space for their benifit and deal a heavy blow to all their enemies. Although Sex Magic in reality nothing bad about it it is about the creative energy of God-Mind that is being used not in a postive manner as was used by ancient cultures such as the Atlanteans. The Reptillians use Humans Sexuality as stepup tranformers to bring in nonphysical reality into physical reality. Their mode is the Astral into the Physical. The ultimate way is via Hyperspace into the physical.The New World Religions will incorporate most of the religions into one.

Doug
http://www.psywarriormatrix.com/about6522.html&sid=36886113a98a8e331e01e4517e8d1152

lycaeus

07-28-2013, 07:31 PM

Here's something else I felt like sharing. A writing and poem about mind control I wrote a while ago with a good video on the subject. Thinking about incorporating it into a metal song. (I also do happier music :biggrin2: ):::

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I was reading Fritz Springmeier's work and was shocked to know what goes on with mind-controlled slaves. A lot of children are used for sadistic sex and have no control of their brains. Fritz says that Toronto is actually a popular meeting place for the underground child, sex and slave trade.

This kind of material is shocking and disarming, but it's very sobering and allows you to appreciate good things more easily. It also helps to kill any evil desires you might have, at least that's what I noticed with me. When you see so much evil you refuse to indulge in it and let it spread anymore.

So, disgusted with this knowledge, I wrote a poem about a mind-controlled sex-slave with 'Sex-Kitten' programming. This is where she is triggered by scratching her under the chin and thinks she is a cat, under complete and total subservience to the perverted handler.

(BTW ever notice pop stars dress up like slutty cats in their videos, complete with black Satanic imagery?)

Born by blood raped by father
Spirit gone her mind is slaughtered
Sick sick men pay for her body
Demons drink Archontic torture
Fractured mind controlled poor feline
Blinded from her source of horror
Sex control of black snake Demons
Starved for God with twisted pleasures

.../He scratches her chin
She bows down and does it again
He withdraws his blade
Strokes her hair and digs into her face\...

Mind controlled controllers program
Chosen ones exchanged for status
Summoning Lepaca Klippoth
Drinking blood of tortured children
Ripping out internal organs
Paralyzed while bones are broken

Falsely called Illuminated
Spiritless pawns will burn and die in hell

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This videos called CatWalk and SexKitten Programming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcR-G8pLrgM&list=PL5C009CF1CB4258E2

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((about the mirrors... marilyn monroe's apartment was a reflection of her soul inside her which was full of mirrors, or alters))

lycaeus

07-28-2013, 07:45 PM

With all these stories of abductees doing all kinds of things and them leading their normal lives without the faintest idea I'm wondering how this works. Some guys say that you can be taken into another dimension, or maybe a zone where time is phased out or something like that with advanced technology so you could be gone for hours, maybe days, weeks i've heard and returned back to the same time you were taken. Though you might get a single muscle or full-body spasm, like a jolt. Jame Rink finds needle marks on him that seem to just appear throughout his normal day, as if he was taken somewhere maybe and returned back to the same 'time marker'. Also some guys say the montauk project went on in other dimensions...

Does anyone know of any sources or good evidence for this? It's pretty far out but I'm really curious about it.

lycaeus

07-29-2013, 04:37 AM

I have yet another couple abuction-related anomalous things to add.

They say abductees have low blood-pressure and tend to be colder. That's like me, whereas as I'm usually cold or shivering when people around me are sweating hot in the hot sun. I'm healthy and fit though... It takes a lot to get me to sweat and I like the heat. I jog on the hottest, sunniest days of summer. Usually have cold hands as well. I eat a lot of cayenne, ginger, insane amounts of garlic, hot peppers and vinegar so the circulation should be good. I don't know, I'm just generally colder than everyone...

And there's the location I live at. We were happy to get this townhouse my buddy and I and we each changed towns to move in here. There's an airport about a half kiometre away. And a stone's throw in the other direction is the 5 Points Mall. So that reminds me of my ocd habit, pentagrams, satanic ritual/occult architectural layout, milabs and underground bases. There's said to be underground bases in lake ontario which is a couple km down the street. This area is popular for helicopters everywhere, every day pretty much and airplanes, chemtrails constantly. This city has the worst vibe compared to all the neighbouring cities that are connected to it and the mall is the dreariest, most depressing little pathetic mall i've ever been to. You can hardly call it a mall it's so sad. Just a terrible vibe you can't help but notice. I have urges to go there every day even when i don't need anything just to browse stuff. Again, maybe a clue, maybe I read too much :)

lycaeus

07-29-2013, 10:07 PM

Another method of control is that they send in special people in your lives, handlers and controllers who pose as friends, teachers, "deprogrammers", roommates, lovers, etc. who are actually operatives for the mind control projects. Some are sleeper operatives who don't even know they are being used to a certain extent. It makes it hard to trust anyone at this point."-----Andy Pero

(source (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1579528/pg1))
that reminded me of Trent maybe.

lycaeus

07-30-2013, 12:33 AM

Was going over Springmeier's book (http://www.emhdf.com/Monarch-mind-control.pdf) and a few things stood out. Some things that are popular in mind-control that 'strike a chord within me'.

The phrase 'follow the white rabbit' always stirred me (wonderland programming).

The tree of life is used in the victim's mind 'system'. That symbol resonated with me the first time i saw it, i even put it up as a profile pic.

I once changed my email name to 'Ding Dong' which is reminiscent of 'Ding dong the witch is dead, which old withch? The wicked witch. Ding dong the wicked witch is deeeaad...' -wizard of oz programming is often used.

I was always fascinated with 'The Jungle Book Story' and talked about it a lot throughout the years. The cartoon movie was always special for me and that story is commonly read to the victim of mind-control.

As well as 'The Raven' by Edgar Allen Poe which I printed out and read all the time. I've read it many times and always loved it, sharing it with everyone. That's commonly read to victims. Always loved Poe's writings. Since I first read them in school.

And the pentagram and pentagon thing. Here's some excerpts:

One pentagram system has pentagrams within pentagrams. The
geometric lines grow from pentagram to pentagram by lines
running in opposite directions. This has the same effect as circles
within circles.
...
Dr. Star’s Programming which places Pentagrams into people uses Sigils as
codes--the occult symbols for the various demons, along with a color, a gate, and a
number form a complete code.

Maybe it's a program by demons? aliens? milabs or illuminat satanists? idk... would a kid randomly make something like this up?

It feels like it's been programmed into me since around the age of 7ish. For example: While typing I may flex my right shoulder muscle, then the left, then my right knee, then the left, then bring my toes to touch as the fifth point ever-so-subtly. Then I'll see my nose with my peripheral vision and notice it is making pentagrams with the movement of my head. Then I might bend my neck because it's stiff from yesterday and make a pentagram with that. Then I'll try to ignore it by breathing and count 5 breaths as I visualize a pentagram in my face. I'll try to forget about it and put my hand on the mouse and catch myself slightly shifting my right ring finger, then index, pinky, thumb and middle. Then I'll bite my teeth focusing on 5 points in my mouth. Then I'll sit back at how ridiculous it is that I keep doing this and visualize me swiping the pentagrams away. I scratch my head in thought and notice I make 5 points on my head. Or look around to 5 directions with my eyes. I don't make the vowel sound 'Oh-A-Oh-Aw-I' as much anymore, but catch myself doing it sometimes. I started this before I ever read a book, so it couldn't have come from that, or the internet. I couldn't find anyone else with an ocd like that.

I don't know if my postings come across as delusional, or me trying to invent a crazy-interesting story for myself, excited with reading far-out things, but if I was really egotistical I'd probably be out performing music, dating, partying, socializing, making videos of myself and doing things to make money. But I'm not, I keep to myself, practice music at home and read stuff about mind-control and spirituality. Plus it's not a cool, egotistical thing to research these things in this society, you're actually made to feel like a weirdo...although the ego can be a cunning creature.:angel_not:

Of course who knows really. Maybe we're all subjected to mind-control and only some notice it more than others. Through things like the mass media which is loaded with mind-control triggers and hypnosis programs. Or maybe Psychotronic mind-control weapons are being used on a mass scale <shrug>.
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By the way I just heard of this book which looks really cool:

Project: Soul Catcher: Secrets of Cyber and Cybernetic Warfare Revealed
by Robert Duncan (http://www.amazon.ca/books/dp/1452804087)

Neuru

08-04-2013, 10:29 PM

They say abductees have low blood-pressure and tend to be colder. That's like me, whereas as I'm usually cold or shivering when people around me are sweating hot in the hot sun. I'm healthy and fit though... It takes a lot to get me to sweat and I like the heat. I jog on the hottest, sunniest days of summer. Usually have cold hands as well. I eat a lot of cayenne, ginger, insane amounts of garlic, hot peppers and vinegar so the circulation should be good. I don't know, I'm just generally colder than everyone...
By any chance, do you also have gluten intolerance, lactose intolerance, or any sort of food allergy? Someone I used to know had those and was also weirded out about how her body can be so cold sometimes even though her blood circulation was supposedly okay.

Note: don't know about a causal link between the two, just speculating.

lycaeus

08-07-2013, 03:24 AM

By any chance, do you also have gluten intolerance, lactose intolerance, or any sort of food allergy?
There may be a connection there. I'm not allergic to anything like animals, grass, flowers or stuff like that. But I am sensitive to food. Funny you just asked because I hadn't had wheat or dairy in a long time but this weekend I figured I'd live on the edge a little bit and have a slice of cheesy pizza. That didn't go to well. I always have a bad reaction to gluten and dairy, 2 of the main things I never eat in my diet. It's weird I can't enjoy normal food it seems, one slice and it's indigestion, congestion and if it's a lot, then my face and eyes get puffy. And the day I ate the pizza as well as some bread, I was really cold while everyone around was pretty warm wearing less. I wonder if abduction experiences change your body's chemistry, or if it's certain people with a certain body-type that tend to be abducted.

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Also, my room mate had a weird 'dream' while I was away this weekend. He said that in his dream, he was lying down in his bed, in his room, and there was a big praying mantis beside him. It was really tall, almost touching the roof, had arms that went straight up then straight down with claws, big round eyes (i asked if they're odd-shaped). It touched his body with the claws, I think he said it leaned towards him. That's all he said he remembers. He definitely DID NOT want to look any pictures to maybe identify it.

The next day he said he felt really weird, like something strange happened. I asked if it was just normal once-in-a-while-anxiety but he said no it was very unusual.

I also asked him if he was reading any stories about praying mantis aliens but he said the only time he thought of those kinds of aliens was last year when I put on a Simon Parkes AMMACH video. So nothing recent obviously stimulated his imagination though he's been reading some alien books the past month, who knows... I remember a few years ago he said he had a vivid dream where he was at a park near his house with a girl in their pyjamas or w/e they went to bed with and there was a grey alien and a ufo. He's told me about a few flashback dreams as well that sound like abduction memories trickling through from the unconscious mind. I said that these beings tend to target people who are waking up to the big conspiracy and people attract them by thinking about them, esp' emotionally, a lot.

My old room mate got a lot of paranormal activity when I started telling him about aliens and conspiracies. It seemed he got a demonic attachment and became really self-destructive. He even seen and heard my bedroom wall shake loudly while I didn't notice though I was right beside him, so if he wasn't just schizophrenic and a demon or alien was manipulating his perceptions, then these beings are pretty damn tricky.

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I had a funny dream this weekend about alien technology. Probably just my imagination but it was kind of cool. It sounds like just a reflection of my own beliefs from the things I read about. I'll summarize:

I asked God what the truth of my life in this reality was about, what is being kept hidden from me.

I remember a little bit. Someting about how this guy from the Navy got dismissed for some reason his name was Russel/Stephen K/Pain Pine or something like that. He stole some alien technology. I saw him with weird tentacles, robotic ones coming off his head as he interfaced with this thing that had the ability to manipulate people's realities completely. He was apparently my personal handler. He would put out temptations into my life as a trap., this was symbolized as cakes coming out on a conveyor belt, but the idea conveyed to me was that pretty much all of reality could be manipulated. The more I gave in to these false-reality-trappings aka: Cakes, the more this guy could feed on my lifeforce. It was all about tricking people into giving up their lifeforce energy. So that's a random dream, maybe devoid of anything but my own mind, but it surprised me, it was pretty cool, like a story was being presented to me. I had another interesting one but I forget. I wonder how many amazing symbolic dreams we've had but can't remember?? Gotta keep writing them down if not for anything but a cool conversation piece!

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And I was talking to a contactee about some things. They've had A LOT of contact and communication with 'milabs guys' and aliens. So I recommended Fore's writings about psychic techniques and things like that. They were born with a big head too but grew into it just like me, so I thought that was interesting, maybe there's a connection.

And they said they've had a lot of telepathic communication with milabs 'humans' but is finding out that a lot of them are turning out to be reptilians and aliens in disguise, that it is more of an alien conspiracy than a human one, even in certain black op's projects. <shrug> Maybe they should turn around that conspiracy theory about human abductors pretending to be aliens, to more like aliens pretending to be humans.

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Also found something interesting about the mall i mentioned earlier in this thread. Couldn't find any good pic's, i might take some tho. Some weird geometric glass architecture going on. It's huge. Two sun-roofs have big octagon panels with other complicated shapes that turn into perfect pyramids, except the capstones are elevated a little bit.

lycaeus

08-07-2013, 05:29 AM

I was really wondering how in the world someone could go through mind-control 'training' or better-called 'programming' unless they were physically at a place where they do those things. Some evidence might show that MILABS guys can perform mind-control remotely. Like what this one person experienced:

General Patton has the hugest office you would ever see. It has red carpet,

Well, tell them it is like a tomato. - an MKULTRA man says now

I was just about to describe the shade of red on the carpet. That it is not a crimson or a dark red, it is more like "the red carpet" kind of red. A little bit bright, and not dark. General Patton sits by his desk at his large office and would do mind control on me. Meanwhile I would be here in my room, so it was done over a remote connection. I have described this on my website before. His body and mind overlaps with my body and mind. It is a tremendously intimate experience. It is more intimate than having sex with someone because you are even closer to someone than that. He then makes a fist with his left hand and focuses and that makes my left hand make a fist just like his does. He then moves his arm and my arm moves the same. This way he would tackle me, he would flip my body around and bend my arms behind my back. Twice he was so rough doing it that it bumped my head against the wall, not that he meant that. General Patton was "training me", he said. And "Welcome to the MKULTRA!".

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MKULTRA was supposedly shut down because it is highly illegal. But why would they close down the project if they could continue doing it, covertly? Maybe they could just get better at keeping it a secret. And, if my story is true, which it seems to be, the MKULTRA project has reached very sophisticated levels indeed.

http://www.orionmindproject.com/scaredycat.html

lycaeus

08-13-2013, 07:01 AM

Ha this guy looks identical to a guy I used to live with. Especially the deep, blank, crazy look in his eyes. Weird.

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lycaeus

08-13-2013, 07:41 AM

I also wanted to mention that Trent could apparently speak Chinese. He was talking to me in it one time, though I can't confirm if it was real or not, he seemed sincere about it though. It sounded fluent and comprehensive and very convincing at least. He said he picked it up from hanging out with some Chinese gangsters or mafia type guys at some point. So that's another odd thing about him. Also the fact that he would argue with himself, like two personalities in him suggests he has alters and that could be related to milab mind-control. Could definitely see him as a type to go on missions for sure...If there is such a thing as milabs brainwashing people, messing with their memories and sending them on assassin missions or things like that, then Trent would fit the bill for that type of person. And if they do genetic enhancements, or any enhancements to the milab's body and mind to make the person multi-talented, he'd fit the bill. He's a short guy but can take a gang of muscleheads if need be. Used to be very skinny but still deadly with the hands from what I've been told..actually enjoys it but is changing his ways so good for him...and with the picture...what do they just breed these guys from the same gene stock? Am I getting ahead of myself? I dunno.

lycaeus

08-16-2013, 10:01 PM

Just watched this video with James Casbolt before he turned into Michael Prince. You'd probably think him and Trent are long lost brothers. I compared him to Tsarion before, but he's more of a Casbolt. Tsarion is more 'academic' than Trent, though there are still some similarities.

It was really strange for me watching this. I paid more attention to his gestures, tone of voice and vibe I got from him than what he was talking about though it's all very interesting. I could be projecting... You'll notice the way he tilts his head to the side. I used to do that a lot in the same way mimicking Trent. The hand gestures and manner of conveying things with his body language, especially the hand was near identical. You can see that he is very charismatic and has a cool, low-key, calm and aware voice.

He also gives off a calm-awake, straight-up, tough-guy military vibe, very masculine and straightforward. It almost seems like there's a lot of psychic energy running through him making it seem like he is sensitive in some ways. The eyes and eyebrows as well. Mouth too. Cut from the same cloth. And the casualness, the calmness, never fumbling on words, smooth and can talk for extended periods without getting boring. When the interview was interrupted, he stops to look up with a serious expression, that is also identical.

Casbolt would be a younger, sober and innocent Trent on his best behavior. Extended drug use and alcohol makes a person more psychopathic. At this point I'm convinced that there are milabs with special training and enhancements seeded throughout different countries.

Casbolt also expresses concern over missing kids. This is something Trent was really concerned about. He'd get angry and righteous about it always telling me to look up all the missing children, the real number, not what's on television. Maybe that concern was based on subconscious memories, or maybe even conscious flashbacks. IDK how much he really knew. I saw pic's of him in all-black stealth clothing and 'gear'. He also has a lot of the traits expressed in 13 Cubed with different forms of mind-control including seeding, vigilante and green star programming.

Whatever made Trent the way he is, it's probably similar to what made Casbolt he is...or 'was'...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CJ1YIb0HWQ

lycaeus

08-17-2013, 02:13 AM

"Green Star Programming (http://personalitycafe.com/blogs/sily/greenstar-programming-7894/) is an umbrella program that covers a lot of territory.

Within this genre of programming are those who have alien
abduction scenarios, alien contactees, Star Wars Programming, Star Trek Programming, Alien Ambassador Programming, and most importantly, Staged Alien Invasion Programming.

Each of these subheadings contain even further delineations and breakdowns that pervade every walk of life and every possible function that can be conceived in relation to the idea of alien beings and the interaction between them and humans on Earth.

The New World Order hides behind masked memories imposed on people who think that they were abducted by alien beings. In fact , they were really taken by government programmers to have their minds altered and subliminal routines entered into the virtual world of their programming matrix."
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According to Swerdlow, the reason they use the term 'Star' in this for of programming is because of the significance of the term Ashtar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astaroth). Ashtar is said to be (http://12160.info/video/aliens-are-demons-ashtar-satan-the-great-deception) "a DEMON OF THE FIRST HIERARCHY, who seduces by means of laziness, vanity, and RATIONALIZED PHILOSOPHIES."....or is he a Humanesque, 'Nazi'-Nordic Alien?
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Ash: stuff left over after a big fire, a destruction

Tar: the stuff you pave over things with

Probably represents breaking down a mind and paving it over with mind-control programming.

Green: according to the well-researched Fritz Springmeier, is the most highly regarded color in Satanism.
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"The Green Star programming has to do with the staged alien agenda, and off world contacts. Any type of alien agenda. The Green Star program is a multi- faceted one, where one facet promotes saviors from another star, another facet where all aliens are bad, or no aliens exist, everything about abduction. Good cop bad cop scenarios and has sublayers with New Age concepts." (http://evelorgen.com/wp/tag/mind-control-2/)
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"Operation Greenstar was the Mind-control project to create UFO abductions scenarios. Much of the high level programming in the 1980s and 1990s is no longer done with human programmers, but is done via programmed machines using drugs, electricity and harmonics.
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Operation Greenstar is a mind-control program in which the victim is given a screen memory to create the impression of being abducted by extraterrestrials. This is accomplished by placing on the victim's head a helmet containing electromagnetic solenoids tuned to a 4 Hz. frequency. The solenoids are connected to a computer which projects into the percipient's mind a graphics program depicting an alien abduction scenario. Such victims are subjected to Janus 'end times' programming, and will be activated to create civil unrest shortly prior to declaration of a state of national emergency. Hypnotic regression as practiced by UFO support groups, only serves to reinforce the mind-control programs." (http://www.whale.to/b/greenstar.html)
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"Swerdlow refers to the whole ascensionism/channelling/lightworkers/contactees/abductees/reptilians psy-ops internet campaign as part of something called Green Star Programming, through which we’ve been and are being prepared for a staged fake alien invasion at some point during the Olympic Games, or perhaps later on in the year." (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?3299-Green-Star-Programming-and-the-ET-Invasion-of-Olympic-Games)
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"Greenstar Programming: Is the programming of Staged alien invasion scenarios. You will find that most abductees are programmed with this. This is government based programming, not alien. From a reliable source, there have been 'little' alien abductions since 1969, however everything since is all government based, with masked memories to make the abductees believe they have been abducted. Some abductees are told to give 'secret codes' to the people of earth (I have come across one such person). This is purely to activate OTHER greenstar programming victims.

There is supposed to be a staged invasion in the next few years, one other source says its to be in 2005 - that I don't know, all I know its supposed to be soon. People with Greenstar programming will rise, some programmed to prevent chaotic experiences amongst the population, others to become fascilitators during this scenario. The most important part to acknowledge is that this invasion is FAKE. UFO's 'attacking' that people will see, will actually be technology called the 'Blue Beam Project' which was developed at the Montauk Project, Long Island. It is a holographic projection of space craft which have density, and look real 3D..." (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread143324/pg1)
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"Holographic ---- What is a Blue Beam Project ----- (Greenstar programming)"
(part 4 of 1st post talks about the use of electronic and supernatural actions/events. [relates to 'the dead rising from their graves recently talked about on this forum.] the agenda involves facilitating and inducing the appearance of demons, ghosts and related phenomena to make everyone nuts and violent. then the 'saviors' can step in.)
(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message185438/pg1)
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According to Stewart Swerdlow in 13 Cubed: "Globally, about 2% of the population, or about 130 million people, are specifically programmed. This means that they were physically taken for programming sessions that involved the use of technology, sexual abuse, torture, drugs, and a host of other methodologies."

I'm cautious of trusting everything he says because of the controversy around him, especially with the rumors of his deprogramming techniques being used to further mind control victims, as in catching the ones climbing out of the cage. But one thing's for sure and that is that he knows a lot about how to mind-control people, how it all works and how to identify it. I'd have to cross-reference his material with other stuff to weed out any potential disinformation. He seems more anti-human than anti-demon or anti-alien but he has a lot of experience with mind-control victims.

A mind-control researcher and victim said that I have Green Star programming indicated by my obsessive doodling of 5 and 7 pointed stars, as well as my ocd visualizing pentagrams. And I remember being electroshocked one time so maybe something happened.

lycaeus

08-17-2013, 02:16 AM

Some symptoms from 13 Cubed from the sections on Green Star programming I have exhibited:

"All of them have a multitude of vices..." Smoking, sex, alcohol, drugs, overeating.

"...all of the people in this category have several demonic/astral attachments to their programming matrices and can easily be triggered into hosting or bringing forward such entities." Well, a couple psychics have suggested paranormal entities around me. And I've had symptoms of demon-problems throughout life as well as demonic dreams and I saw a demon in my room one time.

"They appear to be much younger than their chronological ages...Tinkerbelle Programming." I'm 22 and ask strangers how old they think I am and I usually get 16-18.

"These people are walking laboratories and contain a plethora of functions. They are valuable...are intended to be used for an extended period of time" Maybe that's why 'Trent' and 'Eeyore' appeared in my life set on helping me prepare for end-times scenarios? I've also 'accidentally' missed instant death a couple of instances.

"Another interesting commonalityfor this type is that their genitals all have some sort of marking or abnormality of different kinds...The males report lumps or bumps on the scrotum or shaft of the ***** which may indicate implants or some other type of surgical alteration." Birth mark on left nut but more interestingly there was a cyst on the shaft for 7-8 years that came and subsided with passing erections. Never thought much of it because it didn't hurt or cause problems and it's gone now.

"All appear to be completely heterosexual." Yup and that's 'an abberation for ritualistic purposes' so probably a good thing. (I'm against what appears to be an agenda to turn us all into androgynous robots.)

"Have extreme relationship issues and difficult to stay with one person." This as well relates.

"Another commonality is that almost none of them can hold a job or even make their own businesses. They constantly fail financially and become dependant on others." Working on that. (anyone can rise above programming).

"They rarely take responsibility for anything, tend to overreact to all information, and exaggerate facts and experiences." In the past yes, but the past few years been doing very well. Friends say I'm really smart and disciplined though those tendencies are in my character and have been expressed.

"I suppose that all of this is part of their programming designed to make people stay away from them and be wary of whatever they say. In this way, such programming types remain isolated and unexamined by conventional society." Isolation and avoiding social things are a strong pattern in me throughout my life.

Another thing that fits in with the agenda of this particular programming I've noticed with myself has to do with my past reading material. I used to read a lot of newage channeling stuff. Gobbled it all down thinking I was getting the truth. I always felt resistance to read more of the negative alien abduction literature yet would read so many newage so-called positive alien writings. That's a sign of programming in my eyes to encourage ideas of ascension and space-alien-saviors in the future.

I'm not sure exactly what's going on. Swerdlow says that real alien abductions are rare and it's mostly human agents doing this stuff. I remain open-minded about things. There are many things going on in our world and it's an impediment to learning if you only look at one aspect of reality and dogmatize your beliefs. Though mind-control's an important topic to learn about because we're all subjected to it. Especially those of us into aliens, spirtuality, conspiracy and end-times scenarios. It's not just individually programmed and 'targeted' people.

lycaeus

08-17-2013, 02:18 AM

"Mind Control means a world where every human thought, every emotion, every observation and every need can be controlled by electrical stimulation of the brain." (CIA Research Director 1972)

Mind Control & Programming have always existed on this planet - from the very beginning we have been manipulated physically, genetically, psychologically & spiritually.

As 'victims' of the current oppressors we have to learn how to empower ourselves and take back our Sovereignty in order to change the zeitgeist. His-story repeats itself until we have collectively learned our lessons & said enough is enough.

If you dont control your mind, someone else will control it for you. One day people will eventually realize that not every thought that enters their head is their own.

That satellites are initiating and monitoring thought patterns, subtley implanting directives and programming and controlling thoughts & actions globally.

We are in the midst of a frequency war involving high tech scalar weaponry, a war for mind, body and soul of which the majority have no idea.

By having awareness of the process & methods of electronic & psychotronic warfare, you can better protect your mind and body from such control.

By realising the effects of Haarp - ELF, Wi-fi, Weaponised weather, chemtrails etc you have more chance of negating their effects and learning how to empower yourself in the process.

The first step is to reclaim your body by detox and eliminating all that does not promote wellness, the second is by reclaiming your mind and recognising basic cultural programming and deprogramming from the things that are either lies, triggers or blatantly unhealthy belief systems..

Releasing the influences of the past that are holding you back and creating fear and blockages within.

The main-stream global methods of programming are found in all aspects of society within:- Education, Media (Journalism ,TV, Movies, Music, Art etc). Social Culture (Fashion, Trends, Pop culture, Memes) Politics, Religion ( all religions inc Buddhism is mind-contrl),
Past experiences, such as Childhood experiences, traumas, abandonment issues, Genetics, Past Relationships, Past life influences, etc...
U can consciously work to counter-act triggers and then work on deprogramming. Starting with re-learning the truth about who and what you are and what you are not..

Your mind is a super computer that runs your body & actions, it creates all aspects of your reality.

Access, maintenance, cleaning and clearing of your hard drive is vital to optimum performance of your system.

It should be done by the operator only & old programs cleared regularly.

Deprogramming life-times of mind control & programming certainly takes commitment, dedication and determination to be free of the matrix of enslavement that exists here.

The sense of freedom, empowerment and balance is something rarely seen or achieved in this world today. Where most are victims of the whims of the elite, who play the public like marionettes, creating anger, fear and
depression at the flick of a switch on their frequency machines. The triggers to our internal programs are increasing day by day, so unless you want a tumultuous life on a roller coaster of emotional strife, then it is imperative to learn the methods that are used to subliminally program & influence people.
In order to lessen the impact of what is occurring in the world today. When we are prepared to heal ourselves as a species & do the work necessary to change things, we will create a more positive & supportive reality for all...

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5C009CF1CB4258E2

(LOTS of good videos here!)

lycaeus

08-17-2013, 06:49 AM

This is another good video of James Casbolt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOqiOQqFwQ0&feature=player_embedded

A couple more similarities with Trent: Casbolt says the base he was indoctrinated in was the Nelson facility in B.C. Canada. That's where Trent grew up as a kid. Then Casbolt went to Toronto which is where I met Trent in the Suburb's. The biggest difference is the eye/hair color and the sobriety.

lycaeus

08-18-2013, 03:14 AM

Trent used to brag about how he worked in the movies and bad mouth famous actors. He said that he dated Christina Applegate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Applegate)as well. He said they had a really good thing going on but she moved or something. Anyways I found this interesting video about her...I wonder what she liked about him and who they really are...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpx4qHYVqg&feature=player_embedded

http://xdisciple.blogspot.ca/2012/04/jodie-foster-is-julia-gillard-christina.html
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This guy has a lot of interesting information. I think some of the people he's trying to expose in the mainstream media AND the truther-alternative-media could be clones and not necessarily one person playing different parts.
http://www.wellaware1.com/index.html

lycaeus

08-22-2013, 05:35 PM

Looks like my old musician friend JC is really going for the pop star job. Just watched a video with him playing a song. Nothing like what we used to do... He had signs of programming for some sort of agenda. His bedroom is pretty much all clean black and swhite, everything which is common with monarchs. Not much on walls except for a couple demon pictures, a big knife and the interesting bit... two big butterflies framed under glass beside his bed. Strange how he changed when he broke up the band. Then started idolising people like marilyn monroe, russell brand, madonna, lady gaga, jack white, freddie mercury, gwen stefani and others like that. I hope I don't se him on TV doing a hand sign in the future. He's got a good heart though it should get the better of him. Though it's strange with all the patterns there.

lycaeus

08-23-2013, 09:33 PM

This might explain some of my experiences. Might as well make a note of it. With the 5 point visualization habit and the guy I saw in my room doing and saying weird things.

Reichs work has been of interest to the National security Agency for some time, and it involves the fact that when a person is electronically maintained in a pre-orgastic state in their nervous system, gateways unto the mind open up for mind control to take hold.
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Well, there are these devices. Every psychiatric facility has them. For a male, they attach electrodes to five points on the body (you can guess what one of those points are) and turn the device on. It makes programming an individual really easy. It is devious, but a lot more humane than the old electroshock therapy. The thing is, the device is being used for control instead of in a way that might benefit the individual.
http://www.freezone.org/mc/e_conv04.htm

lycaeus

12-11-2013, 06:03 AM

Just had something weird happen. My room mate and I were talking in the kitchen and we both got a sudden throbbing/squeezing sensation. He looked up and said his nose hurt and at that exact second my nose hurt too. We both felt it in our right nostril. Not in the nose but behind it, like inside the face. We both described the same thing, squeezing, throbbing almost like a 'headache feeling' behind the right nostril. It actually hurt a bit. We're both not having any sinus problems, colds or anything like that but my room mate said his right nostril was killing him when he woke up the other day.

It was just strange that we both suddenly got that feeling at the exact same time. We were talking about the benefits of quitting smoking and supporting the fruit industry. Maybe this was someone sending a signal to implants in us or monitoring us? If it was just me I wouldn't make a note of it but with 2 people it's kind of odd. I also never get headaches, but I don't know if you can get headaches up in your nose like that.

lycaeus

03-06-2014, 03:52 AM

Okay there are 3 little things I wanted to add here. 2 stories I've heard from people I've met and some little phenomenon I just experienced...

First story has no real evidence or proof except for the apparent sincerity of the person who told it to me. They talked to their friend, who told them about their grandmother's experience (and then told me...). Basically, Grandma went to the Doctor's office and the Doctor found something extremely unusual. Grandma was complaining about bad pains in the arm. So the doctor did some sort of scan to see what was going on. He found some weird staple things and signs of surgery. He told Grandma that the arm had been taken off and put back on! He was amazed by the finesse apparently. They couldn't explain it and everyone was shocked, awed, and confused.

That's all I have on that. I could probably get a first-hand account of it fairly easy if someone wanted me to.

Second story, is about my guitar teacher. (Sorry if I wrote this here before but I don't believe I did). Okay, this guy is a great person. If everyone were like him we'd be living in a paradise. Anyways, he's an old school guitar, martial arts, athletic, friends-with-everyone guy who's never read a book on aliens. He's very stringent, wise, careful, sober, and compassionate with his words and how he lives his life. More than anyone I've met in real life. New Agers would call him the Indigo type... Well for about 8 years he experienced excruciating pain. He could hardly walk without screaming. And this was a guy who'd kick a metal pole with his shin for fun training! He'd break boards with his hands, fingertip chin-ups, tough stuff. The pain was so bad he was on the verge of taking his life with a rope. He said that was a message to him <he'd point upwards> that enough was enough. I guess he passed the test as the pain became bearable enough to live with some pain medication, though it was still pretty bad.

He said the pain problems started overnight. He had a dream where guys were carrying him and he heard one of them say "Oh, we dropped him". So it could've maybe been an abduction. That next morning was also when he said he was suddenly able to play a bunch of Guns N Roses songs without sitting down and learning them. He just picked up the guitar and could just play them note for note. So maybe an abduction amp'd up his psychic abilities or skills in some ways? I don't know, but the main thing is that the pain started after that dream of being carried and being dropped. Which is just odd.

Last thing I wanted to mention was that a little while ago today I noticed a strange pain at the side of my neck. It was the same pain my room mate and I felt behind our noses at the same time, that I mentioned in the last post ^^^. I think this pain has happened many times before but I just never took notice of it, just kind of ignored it. Which I was about to do, but then I stopped for a second and thought "waaaaiiit a second, why the hell is my neck throbbing and pulsing?" It was like if you had a bad bruise and pressure was being heavily applied again and again, in waves of a few seconds each, and also with a squeezing feeling. It was unlike a swollen neck with tonsilitis, or a general Canadian sore throat with a cold, where the pumping of blood might perhaps create a pulsing / throbbing sensation. But nope, it wasn't blood. It was very specific to it's location. The sensation didn't spread more than 2 centimetres from the cyst/bump under the skin. The pulses stopped after about 45 seconds.

And the funny thing is, that the pain was EXACTLY where that little bump under the skin is (below and behind the left ear about 2 inches). It could be a cyst that is just causing throbbing sensations. It could be a 'neckache' similar to a headache (I doubt that, and if they exist). Though I've had headaches all day today which is pretty new to me, as I never used to get them. Though I changed my diet drastically from veganism, to very primal that's very high in protein, so it could be headaches caused by an over acid condition I'm not used to. The headaches may not be related though, and they gave off a different sensation than the neck pulses. The sensation didn't spread more than 2 centimetres from the cyst/bump under the skin. The pulses stopped after about 45 seconds.

Who knows, who knows. A couple days ago I awoke around 3 30 am in my bed terrified thinking someone was in there. And I usually sleep well now, just the falling asleep is a little difficult on occasion, depending on my current reading material. I don't remember seeing anything though, just that I fell back asleep. It was a strong, negative, overpowering fear that just seemed to come in out of nowhere into my life in the middle of the night with no real explanation - except maybe a dream. but personally, things like that make me wonder if an abduction happened or if some beam is programming my mind or if some astral being is in the room. Because a few times, I've awoken at the time seeing people in the room. As well as the feeling of being thrown into bed gasping for air. So I really wonder. I'm not scared and paranoid of abductions now like I used to be, fortunately. Just more curious about it, and also angry and frustrated not knowing. So if all goes well, I'll have some hypnotic regression done either by a trained pro or by myself when I can afford it or take the time to learn and do it. Because I would really like to know.

lycaeus

03-08-2014, 05:47 PM

I saw a tall, purple, hazy, blob thing in my room in the middle of the night. It was where I saw the demon last year, at the end of my bed at the doorway to the laundry room, which is the only area with a little window down here in the basement. I wonder if these are both astral beings that come through the window? Because the demon did wisp up towards the window--which was similar to a big golden spark I saw in my room years ago, that collected it's illuminations into a little ball, then flew out the window. Though this purple thing didn't change size. It was just this ominous 'thing' 'standing'(?) there.

I was having a random dream (I think) but can't remember it. I woke up in my bed with paralysis. It seemed to creep a little closer, but it may have been for the most part stationary. Like Barney the children's dinosaur was there, except he was all one-colour and misty and undefined. It was like 8 feet tall. I thought it was a being, but maybe a portal; unless it's my imagination, which is very likely I suppose (seemed real though IDK). But I could make out all of the features of my bedroom clearly, except for the big blob and I had "sleep" paralysis but I was awake. I so badly wanted to get up and punch that blob in it's...blob(?) I don't know, but I didn't like it. It angered and frightened me. I remembered that people have success combatting paralysis with righteous anger so I got really angry and demanded it to go away and let me move.

Then all I remember is a bit of this dream I had. I walked through this entrance and I remember whitish, blue light all over the entrance. We were going through a long, hallway, corridor. Stone roof, stone walls, stone floor with some dirt I think, all square- everything glowed. I was with an agent guy in a suit. Eventually we got to a stairway. The stairs were all metal grating. The weird part is that we were now in a hurry and we had to run. So we were running up stairways like in a building underground, through hallways and then, I don't remember anything else.

I personally think that last bit was just a dream because abductions and aliens have been on my mind. I almost don't want to share the dream because it seems like I'm reaching for evidence, but just in case I guess, it's there for future reference if there becomes a pattern. The purplish blob thing seemed real though because it was in my bedroom and didn't seem like a dream.

Pandora'sParadox

03-10-2014, 06:09 PM

http://www.ufostalker.com/ufostalker/UFO+Sighting+in+Lorton+Virginia+United+States+on+M arch+8th+2014/54555?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ufostalker+%28UFO+Stalker%29

lycaeus

03-10-2014, 06:22 PM

http://www.ufostalker.com/ufostalker/UFO+Sighting+in+Lorton+Virginia+United+States+on+M arch+8th+2014/54555?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ufostalker+%28UFO+Stalker%29

Ahh I see there has been another weather balloon sighting, indeed. :das

Pandora'sParadox

03-10-2014, 06:37 PM

All these weather balloons, and we still can't get it right.

:lmao:

Pandora'sParadox

03-11-2014, 05:04 AM

Well...my good friend just informed me that he has seen something...odd?

Long story short, tear drop shape-with curve at the end of the tail...and a green trail.

This guy has no interest in the matter what so ever, then pulls this out of no where... does anyone have good info on green spectral trail?

Thanks.

\ \/ /

lycaeus

03-11-2014, 12:53 PM

I talked to my guitar teacher last night about his dream of guys dropping him. I asked if he ever thought about it much and he said "Every day." They were a bunch of white guys who were REALLY tall he said. That's the first thing he noticed. He also said they were lean and muscular. One of them whispered to another guy and said "We dropped him". And the next day the pain started in his back that would last for years and get to the point where he couldn't even get out of bed.

Pandora'sParadox

03-11-2014, 04:22 PM

The thing that got me was, he was shaken, but still able to give me a good description of events. With his hands, he estimated the size of the craft in relation to his hand and how big it was in comparison to his windshield.

"It was a little less than half of my s-10 windshield." So lets say roughly six inches is the approximate size from where he was...just imagine how big it must have been.
"It was like my house floating around in the sky with a green trail behind it."

He's coming over tonight and we are finding the exact spot and general direction of his experience. The hunt is on...:biggrin2:

lycaeus

03-20-2014, 10:05 PM

I came across this page about chakras (http://www.chakrubs.com/chakras/) and found that each chakra has a vowel tone associated with it. That reminded me of the obsessive-compulsive, visualization habit I've had that I mentioned earlier in this thread. It's weird I would specifically visualize pentagrams while certain vowel sounds to represent each point. Maybe it has to do with some mind-control program related to abductions or something to do with occultism? So I matched up the vowel tones I'd say (oh ay oh ah I) with the chakras, and you get an "up-down-up-up" pattern. I wonder if this movement is ever used in occultism or anything or if it means anything. It's a damn mystery to me! But anyways here's a picture because it might be difficult to explain or understand by words:

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lycaeus

03-31-2014, 04:56 AM

I saw a tall, purple, hazy, blob thing in my room in the middle of the night.

I found a couple things that involve a weird purplish light. I have no idea if they're connected at all, though maybe it is some form of alien, hologram, or other weird technology.

The first is this excerpt from a Karla Turner book:

She was taken to a group of other abductees or "Chosen Ones" and was handed a
small black box and told to open it. When she pulled open the lid, Angie said, "a mist of
brilliant violet light" came out, covering the group of abductees and causing "a powerful
electric sensation" after which she blacked out

http://www.whale.to/b/turner.pdf

And then I just stumbled upon this youtube video about chemtrails. The plane spraying that stuff looks fake and there's a pink/purple triangle on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvfDTz6cgx0#t=104

*****I must mention that the video here ^^^^ might be complete disinfo. The user who uploaded it thinks most people have a slit pupil, and he sounds exactly like, and says the same weird things as another youtube user called Superluminous1. He's also deleted what I consider to be decent, thought-provoking comments on his videos too. So this video might be complete bull. But Karla Turner is still solid in my opinion.

lycaeus

03-31-2014, 05:32 AM

I was meaning to mention this as well...On another note, I'd like to say for the record that I think the site wellaware1.com and its creator, who I posted some videos from in this thread and others, is disinfo.:angel_not: That's just my opinion, but since I can't delete my past posts the least I can do is say I don't agree with that content. I think that guy might have found a couple clones, but his theory how everyone's an actor and there are no aliens is clearly disinfo.

lycaeus

03-31-2014, 05:39 AM

lycaeus

03-31-2014, 01:01 PM

Yeah, that Superluminous1 guy is pretty weird. In this video he says we should all cut ourselves, and spill blood on a piece of paper with our writing that states our intent to 'worship all and exclude none' and direct it at the new world order......oohhhkay then... I couldn't get through any more of his stuff. Sounds Satanic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsK6ixAyZI

Okay so that video I posted here is not from the Superluminous guy, so I don't see a reason to suspect it. The user just mirrored some of his videos so it looked like the same person. You just never know who to trust in internet land...

lycaeus

06-10-2014, 02:21 AM

I've been meaning to mention this memory here for a couple months now.

I remember seeing a holographic presentation of our solar system in a planetarium hosted by an alien being. You could see our own solar system but off to the side was a second solar system just off on a bit of an angle to ours, but pretty much intertwining with us. The second solar system was a bit slanted, about 75 degrees. For the past 13 years I thought this memory was from the movie Mission to Mars, but the movie scene is different than my memory. Here is the scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRWNlITudhM

I've watched this youtube clip many times and I'm really baffled because I've had this clear memory with me for years since around 2000. Up until around 2007 I'd never heard of Nibiru or a Dark Sa=tar or a Second Sun, but when I first heard of it, I figured this is what was shown in my memory which I thought was the movie Mission to Mars (2000).

I remember watching this scene around 2000 as a kid. I was at my dad's house with my brother and 3 wicked step-sisters sitting on the green fabric couch watching the movie in the afternoon. When I first saw the alien on Mars my heart GLOWED and I was in profound awe for whatever reason. For over a decade I've thought this memory was from this movie but it looks like that's not what was in the movie as illustrated by the above clip.

So there are a few possible explanations. The most mundane is that I just have a random, faulty memory. Another is that they showed a second solar system in one version of the movie that we saw, but this was edited out in later versions of the movie. Another possibility is that this planetarium scene is an implanted memory of some sort. Or maybe I was shown this in some sort of abduction scenario as a kid maybe? Apparently abductees are shown stuff like that and I have my reasons to believe that's a possibility.

This is very strange to me because the memory is still clear in my mind but there is no explanation for it. It's not a recent flashback, but a normal memory I've had for over a decade. Anyways... who knows... I wonder if there is anyone else out there with a similar memory.

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On a second random note, I was reading a book written by Katharina Wilson from Alien Jigsaw. She mentioned a human military abduction experience she had. Her abductor told her that she was going to be injected with what he called ~"Liquid Memories"~ That's a strange term for me. The first post in this thread I mention a dream where I was injected with a needle of memories. I've also written in several dreams from years ago about being in strange places where mind control experiments are going on, where horrible things happen to people but they have no idea because they're "injected with memories". So it was odd and eerily affirming to read recently that someone else used a similar term. "Injected with Liquid Memories"... what a freakish world we live in.

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One last thing I want to mention is about the recent James Casbolt / Michael Prince video on youtube. I watched it last night and I was again shocked just watching the guy. I've talked to others who have had experiences in British Columbia that verify the existence of a military abduction mind-control-experimentation base there in Nelson. I talked about a guy I knew who was likely in the same base as Casbolt above in this thread. Their similarities are as clear as day. Watching Casbolt is like watching the twin brother of the guy I wrote about (Trent) in this thread. Their genetics are nearly identical and I can intuitively perceive an energetic congruence in their "vibe" (or something like that). For what it's worth, observing their likeness is proof to me that there are genetic projects going on to create programmed supersoldier killers.

There is also some evidence I've found that someone with a ridiculously famous and powerful family name might have the same genetics as myself, like a possible clone or something, analagous to Casbolt and the guy I wrote about. It actually freaks me out a lot so I try not to think about it too much. Some of this fringe stuff is shocking to the core. Thankfully we have professional groups and hard-working people in the UFO field making sense of everything.

Pandora'sParadox

06-10-2014, 05:29 AM

Interesting...

I've come to terms with these sort of things. Did some digging into old WW2 weird experiments and the stuff "we" were doing on Plum island. Doesn't surprise me about mind control and super soldiers. Had an old doc that laid out basic mind manipulations...think I deleted it. Its not outside the realm of possibility to "grow a baby, enhance how it works, and get it to do your bidding" But anyway...
I have these sort of insta-flash weird memories, the one I can trigger on my own is running a push lawnmower a certain way...not to get specific, but I'll get these images of a family. Dark hair, old timey shirts... weird stuff. Can't explain it for the life of me. The mind is a complex "thing"...I do believe that we have mapped relatively all of the "mind" and how to manipulate it.
But for what advantages?

Edward

06-11-2014, 12:30 AM

weird stuff. Can't explain it for the life of me. The mind is a complex "thing"...I do believe that we have mapped relatively all of the "mind" and how to manipulate it.
But for what advantages?

Control and manipulation of all kinds, for research, for nefarious means, for exploration of the mind and body. Take your pick. It's a tool and its all how you use it. Some can be used for good means and some can be used for ......well not so good means.

Edward

Pandora'sParadox

06-11-2014, 01:14 AM

Take hypnotism for instance.

Does it really work? How can you test it? or remote viewing...

My mind set is that our "Powers at Be" use mind manipulation to safegaurd its own well being. Selfish, yes. Tactical, yes...How does one protect from "mind invasion"?

"Hey Hun...WHERES MY FOIL HAT?!?" j/k

:bleh:

Edward

06-11-2014, 01:40 AM

My mind set is that our "Powers at Be" use mind manipulation to safegaurd its own well being. Selfish, yes. Tactical, yes...How does one protect from "mind invasion"?

"Hey Hun...WHERES MY FOIL HAT?!?" j/k

:bleh:

I agree. I would surmise that one could ward of said mind invasions if they were aware they were happening. That's the first step. Knowing, and Knowing is half the battle(hmmmm where did I hear that before :P) Anyways. Yeah. So once you know its going on or either that's its possible. You can then research and search out how one can start to protect one's self from said means. One way is start being mindful of your thoughts and what's not yours. Start to meditate more. Also work on opening up your psychic abilities of which for the most part lay's dormant and unused. But it could be said most people use their intuition and that partly calling upon your psychic senses in a crude way but not fully utilizing it.

Edward

Pandora'sParadox

06-11-2014, 05:06 PM

Edward

06-11-2014, 09:37 PM

Very deep...makes me ponder.
Your right...knowing is half the battle. LoL but...how can you know...without your thinker knowing. "Envision dog chasing tail"

Maybe to exercise ones thinker to prepare like you had mentioned...My order of thinking is so logic based, I don't think I'll be able to "do it right".
Would you happen to have any suggestions for meditation or tapping into the psyche?

Well to start you have to let go of your analytical mind. Only real thing you have to "do right" is to breathe. Yes as simple as it sounds, you can employ various breathing techniques to oxygenate your body and mind. Or you can keep it simple and make sure you just have a constant breath flow. It can help you as well get into that "zone" when meditating. What is this "zone" I speak of. It's the state of when your at when your totally relaxed. You are allowing your inner thoughts to subside and your awareness goes up with your surrounding and even mental state. I do not meditate as much as I should or would like to. I'm still developing my higher states of awareness and mental acuity. I'm sure for those who have been trained and have had various experiences. Perhaps Someone Like Fore could possible help elaborate on some of the finer Psychic qualities ect....

Edward

lycaeus

06-16-2014, 03:32 AM

Hey guys, here is another little anecdote for the record.

I read a snippet of a post here recently about how paranormal phenomena slows down in your life when you're not thinking much about it or communicating about these things online. There's some truth to that.

The past month I've had no obvious 'weirdness'. I posted though a couple days ago. And then 2 nights later I saw a ghost or something... what happened was I woke up in bed at 4am and felt something in the bedroom. Then I saw a black ball float across the room. It did a "u" arc across the bed floating and then hit me on the right side of my torso. It she me a bit and it seemed to wiggle and shake as it hit me as if to hit me or something. I was exhausted and scared but I went back to sleep. IT wasn't a dream as far as I can deduce. Oh and it wasn't a bug I'm 100 percent certain of that. I think it was maybe an astral spirit attacking me.

lycaeus

08-19-2014, 04:31 PM

I had a weird ream 2 nights ago. Before I went to bed I wrote a letter to God. I don't do that often, only rarely. I asked God to show me what's been going on in these suspected abductions because I want to know how my mind's been messed with, what kind of programming and what have they done. It's annoying not knowing. I said I want full conscious memories because I am in a very good place at the moment and I am ready to learn what's been hidden from me. I said I don't want any vague, faint, subconscious whisperings, or subtle hints, I want clear memories, the truth and no funny business.

I haven't written down more than a couple dreams in the past year or so because I've just been waking up and running to work. But I remembered a bit from this last one. Just a little piece.

I saw a woman walking down a hallway, like in a building of some sort. I think I was walking beside her. There were people around and it was lit. She pressed a button on a gun or control device of some sort and there was a flash of energy, like a bubble bursting. Almost like a cocoon of light formed around us quickly, or she was flashing the area with light or something. It seemed like a normal, casual thing to do, although it seems completely sci-fi. She was wearing a black skin-tight suit. It wasn't thin like spandex though. About half an inch thick, with curving lines going with the flow of the body, down the chest and around the torso. I think I was wearing the same thing. We were both in good physical shape. The suits were almost exactly like the suits they wear in the movie X-Men, except these seemed more advanced. The main difference is that I don't remember those dorky x-men belts, and the suits weren't like a turtleneck, they fit comfortably around the collar letting your neck be nicely exposed.

http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/X-Men1.jpg

Not just clothing, but some advanced technology you wear.

And that's about it...

The only little significance I see in this dream is that I asked God to show me something, and I remembered a piece from a dream which I hadn't done in a long time. I'm just as ready to accept this is my own fantasy, or an implanted memory just as much as a real abduction flashback.

lycaeus

09-14-2014, 03:21 AM

I felt I should add this little reference about a triangle mark from an abduction.

On my belly I had a red triangle and I remember that this human scientist female put something on my belly that looked like a long cable with red and white cables inside of it and the end of it was shaped like a triangle and this triangle had sharp little things that had voltage power.

She was pushing this technology at my belly and I screamed at this female alien scientist or whatever she was, that its hurting and she should stop, so she stopped, went away, came back and gave me a injection of some liquid.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270748
The person who wrote it on the David forum wrote of an encounter with hammerhead shapeshifting aliens. Like the being I saw. And I've had a triangle mark. So maybe we have had similar / the same abductors? The oddest thing is that this poster shows interest in some of the same unusual lines of thought that I do, like artificial reality, empty people, the matrix, energy harvesting, and alien manipulation. His writing kind of reminds me of my more crazy lines of thinking in the past (glad that's over). The only point is that there might be similar effects on people who are abducted by the same beings.

lycaeus

09-22-2014, 03:51 PM

I found the cartoon video I saw as a kid that reminded me of this dream:

One dream I had when I was 5ish was weird. Memory is a little hazy but I remember this: It was dark everywhere and it seemed like I was underground, in a dark blue/black canyon with lots of caves and cliffs. There was a dirt pathway I was walking on lined with candles and skulls. I walked up to some sort of alter and a being with a dark cloak was standing there. I asked him about his face and he said in a deep demonic voice "I have no faaaacccceeee!" He took his hood off and I was sucked into the blackness where his head was supposed to be into a downward whirlpool where other souls were spinning.I thought I was trapt, but I woke up and crawled into my mom's bed.

[from this post (http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1052-Suspicious-Experiences-Possibly-Related-To-Alien-Abduction-Phenomenon&p=17325&viewfull=1#post17325)]

It was just like at the 49 second mark. A black whirlpool with souls spinning around. They were actually yellow / green like in the cartoon, weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts_WDlgNMoo

WildMage

09-22-2014, 07:12 PM

lycaeus

09-22-2014, 11:09 PM

I have not read the whole thread yet, but it caught my attention enough for me to go back and read the beginning of it. The Marcy interview was very close to what I taught as a kid in other realms if it can be called this (alternate realities). know yourself and act accordingly.

it is an interesting set of dreams and experiences you have here, looking forward to reading thru what you have already documented, and future additions.

*WM*

I'm glad I could be of some entertainment value. Enjoy it and let me know what you think. There's a bunch of random crap, but a fair bit of some good, relevant points of experiences. Some things I don't share publicly, like photos including showing my face and others. For example I took a picture of my arm about a month ago. There was an odd bruise on the inside of my bicep. I found it one morning and thought "damn, looks like someone grabbed me..but I wasn't in a fight..." I was 99% sure I didn't hit my arm recently, so just took a picture and forgot about it. The thing that grabbed my attention was a guy at work said 'It looks like someone grabbed you by the arm'.

lycaeus

09-27-2014, 02:23 PM

My mentor had 24 minutes of *missing time* yesterday morning. He feels it was a positive encounter. They 'fixed his courage' and now he is more confident. They said sorry about that (his interpretation) He seems refreshed, calmer, happier, and more motivated. He said the implant has to go (if they can fix that) but he doesn't remember it really.

So yeah, positive encounters do occur as well. And it happens all the time.

He's an advanced guy, a 'first wave indigo' in new age speak. In his early twenties his psychic abilities were heightened too much and he told me stories that are similar to Fore's stories. He said knowing what everyone is thinking, who's around, and what's going to happen next can drive you crazy. He had to dumb down his abilities and shut them off. He said to God he's not ready for that as it's too much.

lycaeus

10-06-2014, 07:01 PM

Here is a little insight insight based, at the core, solely my own obscure experiences:

**Aliens use illusions to manipulate you using the contents of your own mind.**

Brainwashing is custom-tailored to your own uniqueness.

Rather than hitting you up with strange unfamiliar concepts, people, environments, and scenarios, aliens will intertwine their screen memories they give you with familiar things of your own mind. That keeps things very on-the-ground, comfortable, explainable, non suspicious, explanatory, and probably acceptable to you.

By the way, I was going to mention this weeks ago, but didn’t. I got all excited, then flopped out. Now I’m saying ‘screw it’ I’m just speaking my mind when I feel like it for the sake of it. As weird and random as ideas sometimes are, who cares...

This insight is based on 2 screen memories as far as I can consciously remember at this moment.

I can’t prove these are screen memories, but I believe they are based on my reasoning, research, and intuition / gut-feeling.

1 - where 2 glowing figures -- mother + father figures -- patted me as I lay in bed saying they love me, and

2 - the time I was laying on the couch and then this being in a dark robe with a “Scream” mask glided / floated towards me swiftly across the living room.

Coincidentally, both events took place in the same house, my sister’s dad’s, around the same year or month probably.

The 2 glowing figures were basically humans or Nordic figures. But… there was a distinct impression that a symbol of an archetypal construct within my own psyche was being oddly overlaid / mixed / imprinted onto this paternal and maternal child interaction. Hard to explain… but I watched the Simpsons a lot growing up, and so I guess a familiar core symbol of the archetypal father and mother in my psyche was Homer and Marge Simpson as funny as that is :) My presumption here is that since I watched a lot of the Simpsons, if someone were to analyze my psyche, they might see a lot of Homer and Marge linked with “mother + father” in there. Pretty lame, but that’s what happens when you grow up flooded by the television in this world unfortunately.

So when I saw the Nordic beings pat me lovingly, I also perceived the ‘signature’ or idea of homer and marge being impressed upon these 2 figures. Again, hard to explain, and it might not make any sense, but it’s like trying to explain a psychedelic trip in a non-psychedelic way. To be clear, I did not visually see H and M in my mind’s eye (dream vision). It was more like a sensation or perception of coded information, like abstract, instinctive knowledge. Perhaps trying to make the experience more familiar to me and acceptable? I don’t know. Our minds are complex, and full of intricate, varied, complicated associations and connections of all kinds of things. So I don’t think this is too ridiculous of a theory. I could be reading more into this than is relevant or useful. It was odd though. Almost like the Nordics or Angels were overlaid with some patterns that are supposed to represent mother + father to me.

Then there’s no.2

Basically, I think that “Scream” figure that glided towards me quickly was too real to be a dream and must’ve been an alien or demon, but probably an alien. I could see the living room and couch, and everything was in place and I was wide awake. I don’t remember an alien, but the Scream figure. That past day, I watched What If by Creed probably 25 times at least and the video featured that Scream figure. So again, probably manipulating me by reflecting back to me familiar concepts embedded within my own psyche.

I clearly remember my attempt at screaming as loud as I could in attempt to wake the whole house up, but all I managed was a faint, muffled choke the instant the paralysis hit and then I blacked out.

The fear that hit me was based on a the very clear, instinctive knowledge of past traumatic memories. It was an “Oh God no, not again” kind of fear, rather than a “holy ****, what is that?” bemused / cautious kinda fear.

I wonder what happened and is blocked form memory. Would you / I really want to know? Could be too much to handle. Though I’m sure anyone could deal with the knowledge in time.

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I wrote the above last night. This morning I continued reading Fore’s old OMF thread. The first big post of the morning he had 2 sentences strung together highlighted as yellow. The first sentence stood out as a little synchronicity. Now the reference is more aimed at a different idea, and the synch might be a little loose and ‘forced’, but there’s enough ‘coincidence’ there along with that little subtle spark of acknowledgement you get when you get a synch. Enough to note anyways.

“I had the epiphany on "what if" using the minds own associative complex is far easier for an ET communicate information that is already pre-existing." (source (http://www.exopoliticssouthafrica.org/resources/fore/))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzpo8r6VgA&index=3&list=PL1E46C66629B288A5

lycaeus

10-11-2014, 12:11 AM

This is from The Programming of Planet by Truman Cash. I've felt this way before. These are the words of an abductee reliving an abduction through regressive hypnotherapy:

"And I suspect there are certain key words and phrases
that are implanted in me that when I say these things to other
people, it like triggers them into what they ' ve been programmed.
It 's like ... not a secret identification code as much as it 's the
reinforcement of the programming. Mutual reinforcement. I also
sense that something implanted wasn 't ... it 's like it agitates
me , it aggravates me, and it predisposes me for being more angry
than I normally am. I t 's like it encourages my anger or fosters
anger , fosters agitation. Kind of like they put a thorn
somewhere in me that is like a continued irritant. Only this is
not a thorn; it 's something ... it 's like a continual irritant.
Only I feel that they' re sprinkled throughout me, several of
these thorns, that agitate and pulls and hurt and incline me
toward expressing anger . That 's the entire theory of this
abduction is just a mental re-education or re-programming. "

lycaeus

10-13-2014, 11:42 PM

I saw something in the sky last night. It was a green light about 5-10 stars in in brightness and width. I just saw it go straight down to the ground. The speed was like if you did a slow wave of your hand and I watched it from about 5-10 miles away it seemed. Right above this big mountain. I don't know if it was a comet or a meteorite. Do they ever look green? It's suspicious because it was where a mountain is and UFO bases are often around mountains. I actually move right at the base of that mountain tomorrow. I got a deal on a near million dollar property, furnished, for cheaper than my tiny 1 bedroom apartment. Lucky eh ;) I don't want to brag, I'm just happy about it. I prayed for it and made a deal with God and it happened. Though it is suspicious that the landlord is a mason. He's an engineer who worked for the Slovak and US armies. Flew a war plane and designed parts for submarines. Had a top secret clearance though I don't think that's very high. I asked him about aliens and d.u.m.bs but he said next to nothing about that or the masons. He was a very friendly, smiling, energetic Leo. Very smart guy with a big smile, nice, respectable, authoritative, happy old man. He had his story wrong though. He said his son or daughter was in California, then later in the conversation he said they were in Florida. I questioned him and he seemed a little flustered. <shrug> Maybe that's just old age though (seventies). Makes me wonder (a tiny bit) if something is set-up with these indicators: mountain, possible ufo activity, mason guy involved with armies, luck with expensive house at base of mountain. He also said he was 'at the lab' last week though I don't know of any laboratory in this small town. As far as I know, this is just his weekend vacation house to go skiing, not a place where he works. So what he meant by lab' I have no idea. It's a couple odd signs, but nothing to worry about. I continue to be very nonchalant. And I don't have a bad feeling about anything to be honest. I actually surprised myself with how calm and nonchalant I've been when I get a weird sign or an event happens that would've made me paranoid in the past. I'm much more relaxed with things now.

CasperParks

10-14-2014, 03:00 AM

lycaeus

10-14-2014, 05:21 AM

Heard that green glows are greys...

I could be wrong, it was long time ago.
good to know thanks. they say grey's are more gentler than the human ones ha.

lycaeus

10-22-2014, 02:09 AM

lycaeus

10-26-2014, 04:25 PM

was visited by something last night. woke up heard something moving away and heard a weird groaning. was terrified but just slipped back asleep like usual when he the sane thing to do would be to get up and look around. feel fine and normal now. It is surreal how terrified u can be at night then sleep and wake up as if nothing happened. just writing as it feels good to tell someone instead of keeping it to yourself.

I will do apost soon about some odd dreams from years ago that may relate to milabs experiences but never shared before. then I'll take a break from sharing here.

lycaeus

11-01-2014, 02:10 AM

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Okay here are some dream fragments. Basically, this doesn’t mean much of anything and it all could have nothing to do with abductions. I only want the truth so I plot this here in my little space for consideration. It helps me to feel a little organized I guess. some of these dreams seem like nonsense but who knows how rational and sane your own dreams would be if you were injected with needles, brainwashed, and traumatized by humans and not-so-human beings. I think there are some hints of abduction experiences maybe in some of them.

…

In high school I remember a vivid dream in a classroom. But it could have been just a dream because the scenario turned into such nonsense fantasy:

(Actually change rooms and shower rooms come to mind now, co-ed…) Sometimes when I see people in public I wonder if they've been there with me…

Going through my old dream book, I have a lot of dreams of being on buses, transporting us places. One dream on a train involved a beam of red light zig-zagging around the passengers. At the end of the car it would stop, spin and vibrate. Very strange.

I found this in my dream journal one time and was a little surprised it was written in there —> "The injections of memories felt familiar, like usual procedure."

"Wake up in bed exhausted. Loud left-ear tone when I wake up…people in the store were sticking their fingers in my face. I grabbed them, they wouldn't stop. I broke one tough guy's finger all the way back. He got mad, I got scared…I awoke in a room in a house in the country upstairs. Someone yelled at me to get up. The roof was torn apart. Something happened."

"I'm at a tropical beach with several other guys. We're making a wild-life mouse (?) I call the beach Port au Prince. We swim out to the island being pulled by an alligator who brings us there. One guy holds the alligator, I hold him and we pull each other there. I traded for a crappy scuba/sea suit or something that was "bitter". We got to the island and set hidden cameras all over and stuck bait so we could watch monkeys and animals. We saw palm trees planted in a straight single row a long bend. I remember watching the cool bird and black monkey with skinny face. Very cool." -strange because i live in canada and couldn’t recall any TV show or recent talk about a beach or tropical place at the time…

"I woke up when the dream cop came. He had a big helmet, face shield, all black body-armour and said "Do you have a card?" I said nothing but thought "A simple hello or how are you would be nice…"

This dream occurred while I was living with the guy who's like Casbolt. There is obviously some mind nonsense in this one:

" I was inside a big hollow tree, painting on a tree. Then some people came. It was fun; until I had to go…
Bad dream. Was taking the new 2 person suspended transportation to Toronto, about 1/2 kilometre. Then stopped. I climbed up into a chamber and played guitar with hot girls and a guy who couldn't sing well but did anyways. I met a modest girl with round cheeks and brown hair. She was more awake than others. She said she talked to 2 angels. They told her the truth: She was a 'brooker-bawkem' (something like that) meaning 'ironic occurrence'.
I awoke in an ugly world, like in a school. Everyone was brainwashed. They would make us do horrible things, dirty work, experiments and play games like we were puppets. Then they'd inject us with needles to change our memories so we'd think our work day was good. I realized this and noticed everyone in the class, some kids from real school, they were all asleep, unaware. So I repeated 'Wake up! Wake Up! Wake Up!" I cried with all my heart again and again. What was happening was so horrible. Even the brown-haired girl was still asleep. I had to go.
One of the leaders was coming. He was skinny, like Bob Saget/Mr.Aiken. He tried to reason with me then came back with an injection needle so I ran out the door to the school roof. I saw the setting sun, nice weather, green field and a little party for brainwashed slaves with treats and a fire in the rear field. I saw giant moose and geese, they were no danger. I ran through the field away from the evil school. Some geese hissed at me but most flew away.
A voice explained to me the weakness of the geese is they often stay to defend themselves when they shouldn't. They think one goose is enough for defence while 50 may be unnecessary. They have poor judgement.
I ran, jumped and spun to freedom as the birds flew off like an army of geese. It was beautiful. I escaped to a crazy guy's house. I thought he was sane. He had lots of junk, I saw a checkerboard. He was round with a big floppy face. He kept rambling like an auctioneer so I left. He too, was aware of the brainwashing and I felt uncomfortable so I left fast.
This seemed to be my old school neighbourhood in the dream now. I ran around the corner and the leader/enforcer found me. But it wasn't actually him down the street. It was a flat, two-dimensional holographic projection of him floating towards me. He shot electrolysis balls of blue electric energy. Some hit and stuck to me. This was scary. He was trying to 'cure me'. I refuse to be controlled. I woke up when I got hit again."

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another dream fragment: doing a training exercise involving chase and evade. moving through urban warehouse facilities. pursued by white (caucasian) black ops men. they jump on me, then begin to shape shift and rip me bloody apart.

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also

tons of childhood dreams of black ops guys in tactical black clothing breaking into house. then going after me and me desperately trying to get away. they’d chase around the house. sometimes I’d make it out a window into the neighbours backyard. but they’d eventually always get me. they had guns. they’d surround the friggin’ house. no matter how quick I thought I was. every time they would get me then I’d black out the next memories. Tons of dreams like that that plagued my childhood. I’d go to school so anxious, angry and depressed it ruined many a morning . it was very frequent. so when I had a positive dream, it was such an uplifting and powerful experience.

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There is another dream I can’t find written down or typed anywhere. The gist of it is a very vivid and traumatic experience. Everything is normal. Normal houses, normal humans, normal air…basically, no messed up psychedelic dream imagery. Man I wish I remembered the details, but basically there was a sort of meeting. We were instructed to strategically kill this guy. And we did. We had the body in a trunk. Then I think there was some sort of skirmish or argument and I had to stay quiet as my superiors argued over something. An axe was used and it got bloody and messy. It was very miserable but I had to stay composed using all my mental strength.

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“Nother dream where a controller guy tapped me on the neck / back area to trigger an implant in me.

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“Nother dream where I was downtown in the big city. We walked to an underground area down a stairwell under the streets. There were men in business suits. I was forced to engage animals physically like a life or death match. I had a knife. I remember using a chair for my defence at some points. these were before I’d heard about the military aspect of abductions or training on the astral level and super soldier stuff.

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Then a very recent dream:

We were a bunch of abductees in a stadium type building. We all shapeshifted into alters. A lot of us were reptilians and greys. I had some grey and reptilian and human in me. We were supposed to fight and we did. Blood and body parts slaughtered left right and centre up and down and all around. I could taste blood which freaked me out and smelt the wounds. We somehow knew that it wasn’t ‘real death’ so I think it may have been a virtual reality scenario. Maybe implanted into my mind by a reptilian? Because I had that strong smell. It smelt like someone described as “rotten chicken excrement”. So maybe it was a memory of being in the presence of one of those vile beings. My coffee was not so enjoyable that morning.

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oh yeah another one...

was with a group of people in a mall or warehouse. I stopped to look around. I started freaking out saying "WHat is going on? Where ARE we? What is this place?" I then started crying recklessly. Like a traumatizing confusion about reality. Then I think a handler guy came up but I can't remember atm. I'm pretty sure that was an abduction memory of me breaking out of the abduction trance getting confused.

lycaeus

11-03-2014, 01:48 AM

I have 2 little experiences I want to share here. They both happened recently. The interference was last week, and the synchronistic guidance occurred this morning.

Fair Warning: This post is rather boring and contains only mundane life experiences. There is no 'hard' evidence of anything. Just theories and ideas and opinions based on concepts considered mentally ill in modern society. There's no candy for you hardcore ufo researchers ;)

The interference bit:

First off, I don't subscribe to the idea that there are always groups of humans consciously organizing agents to stalk you in life. Rather, the truth is that interference into a target's life is orchestrated at a higher level of reality not constrained to our 3D limits. Therefore, humans are used without knowing it, manipulated and controlled like chess pieces by entities like aliens, psychic beings, maybe A.I. psychotronic technology, or some more exotic thing like an etheric overlay of our reality that interacts with everything controlled by some entities, aliens, hybrids, or computer maybe. That is, unless people are connected to the love of God and Spirit which can not be controlled by this stuff. Often the intent [of 'interference'] is to incapacitate a target, prevent them from evolving spiritually or from helping others grow spiritually. That's so we can continue to be farmed for our energies.

So this is a little example which says little in and of itself without this greater context of knowledge including the hyperdimensional control system we live through. All it was, was someone was influenced (I only suspect and nothing more than that) to cause a little interference in my life. That's it. I DO NOT think this is a conscious conspiratorial intent by the person who did the deed. And I don't think an alien is necessarily sitting in a chair plotting miniscule tactics regarding my daily life. It could be more like an automated program that uses people but I don't know exactly. Or like black magic energy, like we have 'good code' and bad code bringing bad and good luck in our realities. WHo knows... What I do know for certain is that humans are manipulated in co-ordinated ways that leave clues and hints as to what the overall objective agenda probably is.

So the electrical safety inspector professional guy comes by to inspect and report. I do the maintenance there. He walks through with my manager through the household. He says 'all these plugs are ******' (very professional civilized culture we live in eh? ;) . I inquire, and he says I need to spend a lot of time today reversing the polarity in every outlet. I ask if it's probably just the breaker. He is certain it isn't. Then they keep moving on, inspecting, in a hurried manner (busy important men you know, far too busy for friendly human exchange of course). I ask about the breaker and he looks at the breaker and says it's fine and moves on. So I check the box and find the polarity is reversed. I tell him and he says no it is perfect. I tell him no. He ignores me and my manager tells me to stop asking questions. So I go and take another look. I am now 100% sure the inspector is wrong. So I had to chase him to his car as he tried to leave suddenly. I tell him to come look, and he doesn't want to. He is clearly annoyed and says I owe him a coffee if I'm wrong as he laughs. He then shines his flashlight on the breaker. He says it's good. I'm like :nono: I say 'this is gold this is silver'... He says no still! I tell him to look closer now. He is 2 inches from the screws. he could NOT see that it was a gold screw and silver screw! He said he was certain they were 2 silver ones. The gold one wasn't faded or anything, it was clear. He looked confused and shocked he was so wrong. I mean this is the SAFETY inspector and I have next to no electrical knowledge... The guy was practically blind!

I believe this is a small example of interference that is often never noticed by most unsuspecting people. I mean the inspector couldn't see what was right in front of his face, repeatedly, several times. This would have made my day a lot more difficult for wasting time on reversing all those plugs when I just had to switch 2 breaker wires.... Little interferences like that add up. Call me crazy if you want, but chances are if you're reading this you're open-minded.

Besides...eventually if you look deep enough into the research on ufos and aliens, you're going to run into things connected to other dimensions and densities and a sort of '4D' control network you can't file away in the 3D box.

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Now here is the synchronicity.

Pretext: My family lives and works next to this rich guy. I work there too sometimes at his house. He just got another woman to clean and do housework for him. She is 21 from Hungary and ends up moving here and working for him for whatever reason. I haven't met her, but my uncle wants to set me up :das I'm fairly neutral about it all neither in desire or resistant. Though I will be cautious after this synch I will later explain... But I did find myself picturing myself last week with this mysterious woman and I imagined her name was specifically Anna. I would say to myself 'why do you keep fantasizing for no reason and why do you call her Anna?' It made no sense. I think her name is actually something different and I've not met her yet. But I kept getting the thought of 'me and Anna' not 'me and whatever her name is'. I dunno why. My ex girlfriend's middle name was Anna and my aunt (who was like a mother)'s middle name is Anne. (Perhaps triggering emotional resonance?) The ex gf experience was a reptilian love bite orchestration imo.

The Signs...

I wake up and walk to the store to get eggs. I remember that the living spirit communicates to us symbolically. But I wasn't consciously looking for signs or synchs. What struck me at first was I was suddenly compelled to look to my left. And I did and saw the number "66" on a white van. Like my eyes were pulled straight to that number. I thought "Okay, there may be some 666/demonic energy about, so be a little careful today". Then I walk a few more steps...

I am gazing at the nice trees and enjoying the clean fresh air. Life is surprisingly good... Then I am pulled to look to the right. I see the specific word "Danger" on a sign. It was that word that stood out above all the others. Like an etheric magnifying and focusing lens was put on it...with a magnet too.

So Okay, we have "66" and "Danger"... Something scaley is surely afoot...

I walk past a few more houses... Then I look at a sign I never bothered to look at before. My eyes were specifically drawn to the name "Anne ..." on the street sign. Interesting. So I am thinking there is a demonic woman named Anne? Who knows. Odd I fantasized about being with a woman named Anne randomly last week.

Continuing on... I turn the corner of a bush and straight ahead is a hot blonde in less-than modest clothing. So I start to associate the ideas of 'sexual attraction, seduction, and female" with "66" "Anne" and "Danger".

Moving on...

lycaeus

11-03-2014, 01:48 AM

I buy my eggs, and the way the products highlighted the scratch tickets on the counter was noticeable. The bag exactly outlined a woman in a bikini on a scratch ticket. So again, I associate this seductive energy with the previous clues... only because it was my gut feeling. It could be a coincidence, but something seemed to make that scratch ticket 'shine' like how you are unconsciously aware of the significance.

So I am now associating these symbols trying to see if there is a pattern and wonder if I'm correct in suspecting something. And so I walk home and am pulled to yet another word as I have that current question in mind. I see a sign with many words, but I am drawn to the word "truth". That confirmed my suspicion that these symbols are a synchronistic message of some sort.

So my take home message is: Be cautious and careful about jumping into any romance. There could be very Dangerous and Demonic energy associated with a seductive female you might associate as Anne.

That's not the kicker. There seems to be a double meaning for me here. These signs may be significant to another thing in my life...

There is an online facebook group about some Archangel Michael, connected to some groups I participate in, many of the members there who like this Michael figure much. As of late, I am suspecting it to be manipulated by "Archons" of some demonic sort. For several reasons. One of which was that I started questioning the credibility of this Michael who I suspect might be a wolf in sheep's clothing. I merely questioned rationally, calmly, and with friendliness, casually too... Next day we get a post by some random dude with a long drawn out explanation of why the group should kick out and ban anyone who has 'subliminal negativity' in them. Even erase their comments. So the post I questioned this Michael on is now "pinned" to the side in facebook land. And I've gotten no response to the questions. Which is very odd as the guy I asked who is in contact talks excessively and is always happy to conduct a dialogue... 'cept for now he's suddenly and inexplicably all quiet and shy? Anyways the guy who suggested people get deleted 'who are negative' is totally freaking demonic. Well, at least, all his pictures on his profile are. About a hundred inverted pentagrams, memes of "6 6 6 " and "God hates us all" and "Nothing is Sacred" along with close-up shots of demonic beings... not much else on there. Oh yeah, the word "F - - -" A lot too in big letters. He also has a Satanic Pentagram tattooed on him as well. I questioned him openly about the symbols... I'll spare you the details. Basically, the guy makes no rational sense and I hope the other people in the group can learn from our dialogue...

Someone recently posted a link to an Archangel Michael page. So I click. The top post is a picture glorifying Michael (A sexy, dark, tall, muscular, fit, white man with wings, and a pretty aura). It is signed with a heart by... you guessed it ------> "ANNE" (might've been Anna. one or the other)...

So it is in my opinion confirmed that there is demonic energy behind this Archon-Angel. And I should also be cautious of jumping into any romance. We should all be careful about things anyways. ;)

lycaeus

11-03-2014, 02:37 AM

On Halloween I had a funny synchronicity...

I went to the store to get a key copied. I needed 2 copies. The template keys he pulled out were numbered "66" so I had "66" + "66". Funny... Then the cashier was dressed as a devil, horns, pitch fork and all. He actually interrogated me for having a backpack in the store but I smoothed it over quick. Then as I leave the parking lot, the license plate in front of me reads: "ELT MGMT" which means "Elite Management" obviously.

Interesting how this reality works.

lycaeus

11-06-2014, 12:58 AM

In response to my own synchronicity post ^^^^^^^......met her. Her name ends with"-an"...<toll bell of doom?>

whoknows

11-06-2014, 06:23 PM

On the other hand it could have something to do with the band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG2Pgd6Tm7Q&index=82&list=FLnbwInVpEKkXFC3UuEsCZHA

lycaeus

11-06-2014, 06:54 PM

Hmmm perhaps the plate is named after the band. And the Sync had a double meaning in my case.

lycaeus

11-06-2014, 07:07 PM

The song has interesting lyrics. Maybe the sync is hinting that some aliens are devilish?

I wonder what he means by "Blue Curtain" possibly the blue light abductees experience maybe.

"

"Alien Days"

Sometimes the windows combine with the seams in a way
That twitches on a peak at the place where the spirit was slain
One foot leads to another
Night's for sleep, blue curtains, covers
Sequins in the eyes
That's a fine time to dine
Divine who's circling, feeding the cards to the midwives
Who love those alien days
The nonstop alien days
Mmm the alien days

Must've skipped the ship and joined the team
For a ride
A couple hours to learn the controls
And commandeer both my eyes
Hey!
Be quick dear, times are uncertain
One month crawling, next year blurring
Decades in the drain
Monograms on the brain
Decide what's working and what's moved on
To the last phase
The floodgate alien days
I love those alien days
Mmm the alien days

When the peels are down it feels like traveling in style
You don't need wings to hover forty ton stones for a mile
And in the summer, virgin visions
Mindless humming
Numbers can't decide if the day's supposed to smile

Today find infinite ways it could be
Plenty worse
It's a blessing but it's also a curse

Those days taught me everything I know
How to catch a feeling
And when to let it go
How all the scheming, soulless creatures
Can't find dreamer's honey in the hive
If it's right beneath the nose

And when the light is new
The sky shows trembling cartoons
You don't need smoke to cover
Most of the world in a gloom
But here comes racer number 7
Watch my fingers ripping out the lines
If it looks like we could lose
If it looks like we could lose
If it looks like we could lose
If it looks like we could lose

"

lycaeus

11-07-2014, 04:58 AM

In response to my response to the synchronicity post above. her middle name also has "anna" in it and her mom's name is 'Anna'. This is getting freaking ridiculous. Enough synchronicity for me! Back to chopping wood and carrying water, and playing metal. Too much thinking about this stuff just keeps feeding it. And I wonder if I'm energizing these synchronistic things to manifest?...edit: just noticed in a pic she has a slit pupil and weird abnormality under one eye. could be probably hosting something for sure. I will observe how animals respond to her presence. They tend to flee when demons are around which is a warning sign....

Some things are weird in life though. Like the past month, we had 3 different contractors do small jobs with us. They were each 3 different British guys with the same first name. And my last 2 jobs, the 2 guys who had my position before me each had my same name before they quit and left me an open seat...

Now I wonder if I should just shut up and stop sharing my personal life on this forum. No one's really interested anyways. And thinking about 'phenomena' and writing about it, getting in to it too much, might attract more stuff from happening. Time to go daydream about puppies and ice cream for a bit...

whoknows

11-07-2014, 06:52 PM

Not sure what he meant by "blue curtains." I had some cool purple curtains when I was young and the way I had my bed positioned I could look up and watch the stars, on occasion the full moon would pass right through the middle. At least I think it was the moon!

I to think we precipitate much that happens to us. But then, there are I think things that are mischievous to the point of real hostility, though I have also found that we really do have the power when it comes to what effects us and to what extent.

So is it true that what does not kill us (or maybe even if it does), does it makes us stronger?

Yeah, day dreaming can separate us from the dull and mundane for a while, give us a fresh perspective, but we still need feedback even if that take the form of hearing our selves say something out loud, well, or in writing as it were.

I very seldom know what to say to others. Each of our experiences is so very subjective, occasionally I can relate, mostly not. Even at that, I often feel most of all that I should try to do no harm! As I have said, with a simple word, we can cast a dangerous spell or heal. There is more to our nature than our nurture will allow us to see!

Mmmm love that Cherry Garcia!!!

lycaeus

11-17-2014, 02:37 PM

I just noticed this in the shower. On the left hip in almost the exact same spot my previous triangular 'dotted' bruise / burn mark was. http://i.imgur.com/5zEY3k2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QriZr4y.jpg

CasperParks

11-17-2014, 06:03 PM

I just noticed this in the shower. On the left hip in almost the exact same spot my previous triangular 'dotted' bruise / burn mark was. http://i.imgur.com/5zEY3k2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QriZr4y.jpg

Anyone know what internal organs are located near those spots?

whoknows

11-17-2014, 06:48 PM

Lymph nodes maybe? Kindda low to be associated with any major organs. But then, the lymph system is a rather large and important organ. Come to think, Immune system is like one of the most important...

lycaeus

11-18-2014, 08:02 PM

I looked up lymphatic system diagrams and their are lymph nodes closer to the groin area, but not on the outside hip area. And the idea that the bruise is just an innocuous bump on that bone of the hip bumping into something fails in plausibility as the bruise is behind the bone, on soft flesh, making it nigh impossible to be from the bone, like the bone kind of guards that flesh area. It would be difficult to cause such a bruise unless you had a 3 pronged rod that sent electricity into you to burn you or something. The pictures don't do justice but it is actually 3 dots. But the breaking blood vessels created a blurry bruise FWIW. I think it's from a rod that electrocutes you to control you, or more likely I believe, it is to do a scan or reading of your body by measuring a signal going in and out of you... that's considering what the psychic perceived, which makes some possible sense.

lycaeus

11-18-2014, 08:06 PM

BTW I'm getting a bunch of interesting interference in my life. Like I'm in a tug of war. I get synchronistic hints warning me of danger and to stay positive and focused, and I'm getting some rather obvious interference to screw up my life, I guess that is the Matrix working it's magic and our divine guardians who got our backs ;)

lycaeus

11-28-2014, 04:54 AM

I thought this video was interesting and maybe true. Because not only do the personality traits match me (to a "Tee"), the thing about how these types of people see blue when they close their eyes or meditate matches me as well. And that is a somewhat peculiar thing to throw into a mix of personality traits. I wrote and documented that trait of mine somewhere on this forum in the past, probably on this thread -- I said that when my soul feels more pure and I am calm, at night when I close my eyes, I see blue, and sometimes the blueness is bigger.

I'd read of starseed traits, and of specifically Sirians from a new age source connected to "Ashtar" so I didn't trust it even though I matched the Sirian traits. But his woman describes seeing blue, and it struck me as odd, so i think she might be getting somewhat accurate information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atOkMELbllE&list=LLjBxUpcbAR0oPQmrt-mR_tg

lycaeus

12-10-2014, 10:25 AM

I suppose I may add my piece to the current pile of odd happenings.

Two nights ago I got a reeeeaaallly long ear ring. One of the longest ever, and I've had a lot. I had been stirring up a lot of stuff online, more than usual, so maybe some being or technology decided to monitor me. It was left ear, rang for at least 30 seconds straight, then faded down, but did NOT disappear, just remained very quiet and low-key. It was more or less a constant semi-conscious ringtone in the left ear. I eventually forgot about it.

lycaeus

01-04-2015, 03:33 AM

Here's the thing under my skin I wrote about before that sometimes pulses and hurts at odd times. Like a few days ago when I had deja vu talking to this abductee I just met and explaining some things to them. They also had deja vu with me as well. Another time, I felt the pulsing pain at th same time my friend felt the pain in his nasal cavity as I did in my nasal cavity standing in the same room, hinting that we were beamed by the same signal at the same time. I guess this is somewhat appreciable being hard and physical evidence of something. http://i.imgur.com/fLxIl4c.jpg

lycaeus

01-07-2015, 09:26 PM

WildMage

01-10-2015, 02:08 AM

I found this info on a certain kind of military abductee type person. The guy I talked about in this thread with the weird pinky fits this bill in a striking way.

bold my own emphasis

"Many of the MILABS were groomed from an early age to later be "Drafted" into various "Black Ops" programs within the Secret Earth Governments, Various Alien Federations as "Delegation Support", "Colony and Exchange Programs" and the various multiple "Secret Space Programs(s)" (Solar Warden, The Dark Fleet etc...) which fall under the often used description of “Break Away Civilizations”, of which there are 5-7 (Ancient Earth Breakaway Civilizations).

Among the "Secret Earth Governments" (One of the most powerful being the "Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerates"), Secret Space Programs and their Various "Off World Allies" (All with their own separate agenda's) there is currently a "Shadow Civil War" going on.

One of the hardest to control of these groups is a young group of sociopaths that were identified and trained with "Brutal Efficiency" to be able to infiltrate and manipulate people from of any type within minutes of meeting them. There has never been a more efficient and dangerous asset ever created. They can literally morph to blend into any environment, situation and infiltrate any organization and manipulate their way into a position of influence and their "Mark" or Victim will be convinced everything was their own idea. They are literally the best spies and asset handlers ever produced."

http://goodetxsg-secretspaceprogram.blogspot.ca/2014/12/scopalomine-drug-used-by-intelligence.html

thanx for putting this here... while the article makes it sound nefarious or unethical at best, I believe there are other aspects to this which can and have been used for good. It is much bigger than simply morphing and blending into an environment. This is where many get lost in what is actually meant by creating your reality. They have the ability to create and destroy, but ultimately they dream the future and bring it forward. It is tenacity and perseverance of holding onto the small details which allows for the navigation of events. The outcome is flexible in the moment, but it is a path to an objective. The morph is about adaptability to the the given environment, and the maintenance of maneuverability as this changes. It is knowing when to be rigid or when to be flexible, and when to give and take. If you are lucky enough to have one working for you, I would say, do not be afraid of them, but give them the leeway they need. Watch and make sure they understand the direction you want to go in, if it aligns with theirs you are in for the ride of your life. You may never figure out how it is they do what it is they do, but one thing is certain they will strive for your success if they feel you believe in them.

*WM*

lycaeus

01-13-2015, 04:40 AM

lycaeus

01-13-2015, 04:46 AM

Lycaeus's update on personal aliens stuff as of current: couple days ago, the living quarters was dimly lit, more darkened than not. I traversed the living room and turned to the kitchen. As I traversed through the kitchen entryway, I distinctly perceive a shadow figure standing in the kitchen. :yikes: With incredulous absent-mindedness I gawk stupidly as the thing dissappeared itself in the wee time of a young quarter second after first seeing it... I stepped back, and walked in again, and did this at least 5 times to see if I could recreate a shadow effect, or if it was traffic moving by. So I checked the traffic to see if it would make such an effect. Nope. So either I was hallucinating, or there was a shadow being in the kitchen that then phased out a mere quarter second after I first saw it after I traversed through the kitchen entryway.

lycaeus

01-13-2015, 04:51 AM

I wrote a couple times on this forum that I thought I was talking to an alien or entity person. Once, was a meditation I thought I was conencting to a grey / insectoid being named something like "Lyonz" and another time was when I heard a British woman's voice speak to me in bed: 'Would you like to know what is really going on with you?' then saw the face of a female Nordic, but then saw a grey face. The name I got from that was "Leyana".

Now...

I come across this marvellous website and see that some other people have had contact with an alien called "Lyano" ! Interesting eh? Perhaps there is a connection and perhaps there is not.

http://www.starseedawakening.org/et-gallery/

WildMage

01-13-2015, 08:54 AM

WildMage thanks for sharing. You seem to know much about this kind of person, were you trained like this as well or do/ did you know someone like this? The person I knew who was a milab and fits this description has a very dark aspect, and dark history, so i think he was programmed for dark things. His program seemed Nazi oriented and associated with malevolent groups doing harsh things to innocent people. So I don't think the way these people were created is good at all, but perhaps these kinds of people are extremely valuable and special people. On the other hand, maybe there are milabs created like this in a more loving environment used for more loving purposes, but I doubt it.

The guy I knew is amazing like you imply. If there's anyone that can survive and adapt well as a human in trying circumstances it's him. He can use sheer will for anything, and manifests what he wants, the good luck just floats in the air and lots of synchronicities occur. That's what I miss about our association. But he was so damn manipulative, powerful and influential, that he made me into a person I am not proud of [that beebee under my skin by my ear started throbbing a bit now...stopped.]...very special person indeed, it's amazing how he could network so well with anyone and get anyone to like him and openly express immense gratefulness, respect and compliment him...though, he was at the core a slave to his own monstrous narcissism. Still, what an amazing person.

it is cloudy at best, I do feel like I was trained, by whom I do not know, likewise for purpose. I have had an affect on those around me which can either be helpful or detrimental, depending on how I feel about their actions toward me. It is hard to say how much of it is just coincidence, but it is eerily consistent at best, like something is in the background making it happen as needed. Similarly I can attest there is a major dark side to this, for years I called it a mind war of sorts being fought in hell. In more recent times however I seem to have a much broader leeway, and not as much of the nightmarish aspects popping up. It is more of a choice these days then an immersion over which there was little choice or just a part of daily life. My own choice is to use it to help those I can, and to give an edge to those who help me or are nice to me. I also try not to pull the trigger as quickly as I used to in the past on those I feel have done me wrong.

i have played with the possibility of my experience being a part of millabs, with memories erased or rearranged, or possibly implanted. I honestly do not think I will ever have the answers to the questions I have, and come to accept this. There is also another part of me, which feels like I worked with more than one group, the underlying agenda was the same, but each had their own objectives. For the most part my mind rejects the idea of it having been a millab.

*WM*

will continue this later...

lycaeus

01-14-2015, 12:21 AM

WildMage

01-14-2015, 08:24 AM

I remembered what I was going to post last time but forgot... I was gonna say that after reading your advice on benefiting from such a person, I thought of contacting him. Reason I don't is I'm scared to death. Not of being physically hurt, but of having my mind manipulated, and being pulled into that world. I had a nightmare of him threatening me because I had anxiety about contacting him again, which I probably won't.

My problem is I'm hard to satisfy with the knowledge I'm given, I always want to understand things, and from all different angles, with more than enough reassurances to solidify my knowingness and confidence. But in this life we need a certain amount of faith, and courage to act on the little knowledge we do have. I'm jealous you can accept not getting all the answers. Good for you. Seems like the way my life has gone, I've been given just a little sampling of a bunch of odd experiences. I don't have full-blown, immersive, big huge experiences and overwhelming interdimensional strangeness all the time. It's like I was given just enough clues to show me things are real. I see a couple flashes of some beings, ghosts, demons, aliens, get some weird dreams, some marks, some corroboration from others, some prayers answered synchronistically, some flashbacks, heard a couple disembodies voices, and other things.. But nothing too intense or conclusive. Like I've been given just enough to know that mainstream accepted reality is false. But it's somewhat of a curse knowing things... and that's what I asked for, I always said to God "I just want to know the truth of what's going on here" I didn't ask for money, love, fame, or good health, just the truth. IDK why, but that was what I always asked in my mind. Now, it bothers me a lot knowing my memories have been manipulated, and groups can take you, use you, and mind control you while most of the world is oblivious. But I'm sure I'll get better and better at accepting things.

It is a bit weird that you would have a nightmare over something like this. One of the strange aspects of this is although it can be used for a temporary period of time on a selfish purpose it tends to backfire and things do get rebalanced to their original state. It can however be used for others in a stable manner. If it is the same then I would say your receipt of good will was something this person genuinely wanted for you. They would not manipulate your mind, not in the sense you seem to be afraid of them doing. The environment around you is however manipulated, for example people may feel an attraction, and find they want to help you. Time may be manipulated slightly to put you in the right place at the right time where an opportunity becomes available. So the chain of events is manipulated slightly so they synchronize toward a goal which this person feels would make you happy. There is a rebound effect which is then managed to smooth out any of the potential drawbacks of the action. The flip side of this where opportunities are removed is a darker side of this, and usually leads to the destruction of another person's life.

Something I have never really shared with anyone is there is a price for doing this and it is embedded in past and future events. Changing the future has an impact on the past, the two are intertwined. So looking at my own awareness of the past, I feel like something huge is going to get adjusted down the line, what exactly I do not know. Whatever it is got distributed, or paid for across large segments of the past.

The truth is hard to come by in this world, if this what you ask for and genuinely pursue this path I am certain the good lord above will help you in your endeavor. Based on what you are relaying it looks like you have had a few doors opened for you along your path. You may end up with a much clearer picture then most, because of the width of first hand events you have had the opportunity to experience. The question out of curiosity is what does it say to you when you look back on these from a big picture perspective?

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If ever I could truly prove my own experience it would probably freak me out more than have me feel like there was some form of closure. Actually it would most likely be the beginning of a much longer process of discovery and acceptance. As long as it remains fuzzy it does not need to be taken as an undeniable fact, like death and taxes. It can be played with and backed away from when it gets uncomfortable. The mind is not racing to grasp at what it would know is not possible, or trying to reconcile something it does not want to accept as a fact.

*WM*

lycaeus

01-20-2015, 04:15 AM

They would not manipulate your mind, not in the sense you seem to be afraid of them doing. The environment around you is however manipulated, for example people may feel an attraction, and find they want to help you. Time may be manipulated slightly to put you in the right place at the right time where an opportunity becomes available. So the chain of events is manipulated slightly so they synchronize toward a goal which this person feels would make you happy.
Exactly, coincidental, important meetings and relationships are orchestrated behind the scenes. He told me a tall Zeta told him to build a survival base for us.... he had a need to exercise generosity, goodwill, kindness, and burn some negative karma. I needed a role model and guidance. He tried to help me in his own way, and I learned a lot about a lot of things thanks to this experience. ...Plenty of mixed feelings about that past. An orthodox psychologist would've had a field day studying our household LOL.

[side note: tall zeta-grey is fitting. my room mate observed and drew a tall grey he saw in my room staring at me. and according to a seasoned abductee and well-read researcher, those triangle marks I get are from tall "Rigellian Greys" who look 'hawk-faced' and are some of the more advanced and mean of greys.]

http://i.imgur.com/gl3WJ5x.jpg

So looking at my own awareness of the past, I feel like something huge is going to get adjusted down the line, what exactly I do not know. Whatever it is got distributed, or paid for across large segments of the past.
Interesting thought. I hope the future is better to balance out the past of suffering on earth.

The question out of curiosity is what does it say to you when you look back on these from a big picture perspective?

My life has some sort of plan and I'm given interesting experiences. I've been sucked into the realm of fringe conspiracy, aliens, and spirituality for whatever reason. I have few close relationships, but they are with highly unique and exceptional people, almost planned / placed into my life at key moments. I think part of my interest [in aliens, etc..] is subconscious experiences from abductions and past lives leading me on. The bigger picture of my life is the same for all souls, to grow through catalytic experiences and express their unique creativity. I feel I have something important to do, and like I do with all things in life, I do very well mostly, then slack, get overwhelmed and helplessly frustrated, but then somehow manage to pull everything together and finish well. I am a Capricorn, they say we can be very extreme, either the brightest, or darkest. I think alien or milabs groups may be interested due to what a psychic said, that I was a hybrid in a past life. I feel a pronounced sense of mission for whatever theoretical reasons may be true.

If ever I could truly prove my own experience it would probably freak me out more than have me feel like there was some form of closure. Actually it would most likely be the beginning of a much longer process of discovery and acceptance. As long as it remains fuzzy it does not need to be taken as an undeniable fact, like death and taxes. It can be played with and backed away from when it gets uncomfortable. The mind is not racing to grasp at what it would know is not possible, or trying to reconcile something it does not want to accept as a fact.
What kind of experiences have you had? Please be as vague, short, or descriptive, or wordless as you like. Have you talked telepathically to aliens, or seen some, or had abductions? I think you mentioned experiences in parallel realities or something like that.

I appreciate you writing here. For most of this thread it felt like I was shouting into empty space, though I know that's not the case. The lack of response kinda sucked, but it allowed me to write and learn about these things without expecting ego gratification or dialectical contentions I may have gotten in other forums.

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I also want to do a quick comment on my electroshock memory, which felt like a flashback when I woke up shaking at age 16. I just remembered being on a table surrounded by people / possible-aliens or other... and I was hit on the head with something, it was procedural, not aggressive or chaotic, frivolous acticity, more like a m scientific or medical procedure. I don't think it was to fracture my psyche for mind-control btut maybe. I've heard they use trip-chairs and drugs to torture and split the mind...and I remember being in a chair during an abduction where they stick a needle of memories into the top of your head... anyways... Electricity coursed through my body violently and I shook a lot! I woke up in my bedroom shaking... maybe that was after a 'milab' or a dream-flashback IDK. But the recent whistleblower online called "GoodETxSG" wrote that in secret space program procedures, of which 'milabs' are a part of, they use electricity to cleanse someone infected with a contaminating energy signal of A.I. They're paranoid that someone infected with the A.I. signal will destroy their biological/consciousness-interactive secret-advanced 'black-ops' technologies so they have to make sure no one has that energy in them. I think my electrocution may've been to cleanse in such a way, as the whistleblower says electricity is used to cleanse someone.

Many thanks in advance and feel free not to answer if it seems too risky. 6. How do we know if we are AI mind control and if we are, how to get cleared?

I do not know the full sequence. I know the first step was a moderate electrical shock to the nervous system that was not at all pleasant. The other steps were done with frequencies and other devices that were doing things that I could not describe.
Sorry it took me a while to get to your questions.

http://goodetxsg-secretspaceprogram.blogspot.ca/search?updated-min=2015-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=3

WildMage

01-22-2015, 03:45 AM

Interesting, BTW the image of the alien you posted was the closest I have ever seen to what I would say is part of a recollection I have. Strange though is I have no recollection of aliens persay and yet I recognize it as a deep fringe type memory.

As much as the environment can be manipulated, what I can say for myself is that their is still a very high level of superstition. Where everything has to be aligned and in an almost introverted manner when working with this an almost monk like atmosphere maintained. Interruption are frowned on or things out of place are literally considered semi disastrous. It is a feel for what needs to unfold from a known point in space and time. I wonder if your friend had similar type quirks...

I have always been fascinated by triangles, it is like they are a key to something. to what exactly however I do not know.

It is interesting you mention hybrid, because I have had this feeling for a really long time that those of us who experience these events are hybrids. Further I would say that the differences in the experience or capabilities has to do with generations. Kind of like a marker, that when someone starts talking about their experiences the terminology used is a way to classify which generation, and then who or what they are associated with. possibly even used to determine health, and risk factor, in case some type of adjustment needs to be made. Destiny is a strange bird, part of me feels like it is already done, and yet another part of me thinks there is still some work ahead. For the longest time I had that sensation of mission, but now it is not quite as pronounced. At least for me it is more of a post mission feel to it now. I sure would love to see the debriefing documents if they even exist.

Also the link you provided to goodETvSG has way too many correlation points, it is either a very well crafted piece to bring certain people forward, or this person was actually there. I have not decided which yet, but it had me a bit nervous to read thru it. the good part though is he has this information out before the Jupiter Ascending movie hits, which will just flood these sites with people claiming connections to this. A major muddying of the waters in the upcoming months. But in my original thread on OMF I used to speak of the experience having been initiated by a signal and how it was used to exploit the masses. The black goo ( i called it a black liquid pond/lake) is not new and actually saw the drone being created out of it. I was in the room in a parallel realm when they were working on creating the A.I. that was to be used in energy to matter conversion technology. The drone was the culmination of this effort as the black goo represented a type of condensed energy and it was literally converted into a plane one atom at a time. The non-sentient gel type technology that could be communicated with is also familiar in my case it was used to move energy fields around. just a few of the matching points, there were a lot more.

I do have a strong recollection and attraction to blue, literally the blue used to light up Bluetooth and mobile technologies. But this blue was first seen at least 10-15 years before Motorola introduced their brick sized mobile phones. on four separate occasions once as a healing energy that was a pool that looked like a galaxy, another time in a cavern which was fully lit in this blue glow, another as a set of eyes on a black shadow type creature, and the last at the bottom of a well as floating stones, which I was tasked to retrieve for some reason. Just strange stuff, that makes sense on one level and at another level is nonsense. Like the galaxy pool was after being pulled off the battlefield of this war being fought in alternate realms and this was their way of fixing me. The cavern was a source portal to another realm, it was very different, and for some reason very important in the effort. Like it would provide a major edge to those fighting, either specific materials or technology acquisition or perhaps both is what I can remember.

*WM*

btw your mention of liquid memories brings up mental blocks and procrastinating tendencies in me... I want to respond but this is probably the best I can do at the moment. But from the sounds of it something or someone is protecting you i.e. I would say you are a protected asset to some group.

Edward

02-06-2015, 04:37 AM

How do I start this. I've been wanting to talk to someone about this all day. I hope I can remember everything. Of what happened earlier this morning/last night while I was sleeping. I'm in my dream state and I am in a neighborhood with my mother. Ships as in Saucers of the like and what not fly over head and I point them out to my mother and tell her see. This is what I've been seeing and that they are real. She finally see's them and we both watch them fly in the sky. This was day time and as we come to opening in the field. We see military helicopters like apache type helicoptier and Huey's. One of them land. I say to the man dressed in military clothes that said I know where they went(as in the saucers/ships ect...) He says in a matter of fact type response. We know where they went. I need you to come with me. We are going to help you to remember and get your memory back. So I go with them I get on the chopper and I remember remarking to him about a patch on the side of his uniform and saying. I don't recall ever seeing that patch before what does it mean. It signifies something about a school or training he went through he said but I also noticed it wasn't sewn on. It was put held on by a safety pin. I thought latter that, that was odd. Anyways we were flying away and he said I'm going to meet these beings. I was asked if I was ready and I said yes. I might be a little nervous at first but I should have no problem meeting them I said. So next thing I know I am in this place, I am not sure what place it is I assume I went to the ship. I am walking across the floorway its is slightly dark but I see in front of me some 50 feet or so an "alien" or another being. One that has a fish like or dolphin like skin color grey but also has different color blues mix'd in with it. The being looks humanoid but is not human at all. It has a face two arms and two legs. They have a face with two eye's a visible nose and mouth. there is no hair as we would call it but more like thick tenical looking things that come down like hair but squid like. My impression of the being was a squid-humanoid. This may be grossly inaccurate but the creature looked and had a feel of being aquatic to me with the skin color and tones and the shape of the face with the small black eyes and the thick tenical looking hairs. So I go closer to this being and as I was being accompanied up. They were asking how psychic I was and I heard back thats what we are going to find out. I come up to this being. They ask me to put my id down before them. I am at a cear glass like window and counter. As my id touches the clear glass. I yellow/golden light scans it and then I see my Id which is in english get's translated and a weird language comes up on the glass as its being scanned. Then an image comes to me shortly after that encompasses my entire third eye vision of sight but its all around me and in front of me. This only flashes briefly but what I see reminds me of various Illuminati type symbols and that's the first thing that comes to my consciousness as my mind try's to correlate the symbols to something I've seen before. After that happens nothing else is said, no other images or telepathy is convey'd and I have after thoughts while still dreaming in the dream and thinking, am I being cataloged for some reason? Why is this happening? I thought I was supposed to get my memories back. Perhaps the 3d all in compassing image with various triangles and symbols was to help trigger it. But if that was the case then why take my ID and ask if I was psychic. ( this is what I asked to myself just shortly after I was done with the bluish/greyish fish/squid like being).

Now as I was having other dreams and as I woke up this morning I was still thinking about what happened and trying to figure out the meaning. One of which perhaps the military person I met was not who they looked like but perhaps another entity posing as an authority figure of something I would recognize and respect. Perhaps even the same type beings I had met shortly ago. I also asked if that might be the case then something is going on in the spirit realm perhaps a sort of herding or cataloging of different beings for what purpose I do not know but I did think of the possibility of being used some how for a purpose of which I had a multitude of thoughts ranging from being enslaved or an imprisioned spirit to not knowing the full purpose or reason to why what is happening on this side/this realm is indeed happening for.

Anyone ever heard of or seen beings as I have described or close to it?

Edward

newyorklily

02-07-2015, 12:49 AM

Edward

02-07-2015, 04:28 AM

Wow, that's a very interesting dream. The blue being sounds almost like the one I remembered from my childhood. There are some differences though.

Edward, do you remember what the patch on the military man looked like? Or any of the symbols you saw?

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No I do not. I recall not noticing the direct details of the patch but how it was affix'd on the shoulder. As for the Psychic impression of symbols first thing that crossed my thought/mind was illuminati/masonary symbol at first but what else comes to mind is a mandala with various inverted triangles. It was similar to this actually..
http://archure.net/p/2000px-SriYantra_construct_svg_CCwiki_SharkD_Michael_Horv ath_rev_ArchureNet_wt2.gif

Like this But like I said it was was super imposed in my third eye site but it encompassed my whole field of vision plus it felt like it was all around me.

To clarify the being I saw. It had a Iridescent allure to it. with the grey and bluish colors with also pink in it. The head had thick .......OMFG!!!!! I just found it almost to a "T" The shape of the face is very very very close in this picture which happens to be a cartoon from Starwars. The head and hair are nearly spot on too. add the greyisy blue skin with iridescent properties to its skin and there ya go. Eyes were much smaller and black then depicted here but its very close representation of what I saw. http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs9/i/2006/059/0/a/Kit_Fisto_Aquatic_Jedi_by_Superchica.jpg

Edward

Garuda

02-07-2015, 11:38 AM

Which, of course, reminds us of... http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1766-Hammerhead-Aliens&p=35683&viewfull=1#post35683

Edward

02-08-2015, 04:01 AM

That is interesting indeed. I'm going to re-read that thread there and see if anything seems to trigger or jive with what I was feeling/sensing/thinking during the episode of my experience.

Edward

lycaeus

02-12-2015, 03:20 AM

Thanks for sharing Edward, that's very interesting. I think some humans use certain abductees to interact with non-humans, maybe see if they can communicate telepathically with them to get information if they themselves can't. There are so many possibilities as to what could be going on. Your alien reminds me of the guys form the movie Alien. And I wonder if the big headdresses of the ancient Egyption Pharaoh's was a nod to this kind of alien?

So I go with them I get on the chopper and I remember remarking to him about a patch on the side of his uniform and saying. I don't recall ever seeing that patch before what does it mean. It signifies something about a school or training he went through he said but I also noticed it wasn't sewn on. It was put held on by a safety pin. I thought latter that, that was odd.

Maybe they just pin on different symbols on their uniform to trigger different mind-control programming in various abductees..."oh, Frank, it's 2 o'clock, time for the pink-feather-serpent symbol, we'll be picking up a batch of Class-4-9-sigma abductees this afternoon. Must keep them in their pacified slave-monkey alter"... I don't know, maybe not, just a thought.

lycaeus

02-12-2015, 04:50 AM

btw your mention of liquid memories brings up mental blocks and procrastinating tendencies in me... I want to respond but this is probably the best I can do at the moment. But from the sounds of it something or someone is protecting you i.e. I would say you are a protected asset to some group.

Wildmage, I have some very persuasive words: Come on!

I've had so many dreams with these needles. It is almost a self-evident fact for me that there are secret facilities where humans are taken to, to do things which they are programmed to forget after being injected with liquid memories. The fact that Katharina Wilson described these needles and mind-control the way I have done before I even read her is something intriguing.

The whistleblower GoodETxSG from the Avalon forum mentioned "Pirate ships coming to get him" as screen memories, and as soon as I heard that, I knew there was some commonality with my own pirate ship dreams, which I don't think I've shared here, but they included non-humans and visits to buildings full of lots of interesting people.

I've even talked to someone who says they've remote viewed the rumoured 'trip chairs' which are sometimes, or often, not the extravagant things like were used by Duncan Cameron in the Montauk Projects, but simply a mind-control chair, where they drug you and play you movies, sometimes virtual realities to screw with your mind. A milab friend of mine said he remote viewed me there with another guy I lived with, and said I was screaming my head off about not knowing who these people were sticking needles into me...also other abductees, several have said they recognized me which is also interesting...

So I know 'something' is going on, something hard and physical, as well as some things not so hard and physical, like in other states, astral or dream states or other dimensions maybe.

I feel like I am trying to uncover parts of me that are blackened out but still haunting me. Of course, no need to rush things, God will reveal things to you in your life as you are ready. But of course I'd like to hear what you think of 'liquid memories'.

lycaeus

02-20-2015, 01:27 AM

lycaeus

02-21-2015, 02:02 AM

Last night I noticed someone standing outside my house through the window, pretty sure it was the backyard, but may've been the side or front. I don't know if this was a dream or what. This morning during my coffee session the memory 'came' to me, and I thought 'wow, I forgot I saw someone in my backyard last night'. The memory is very awkward, but I'm 100% sure it's a memory though. Almost like my mind wants to convince myself that it was someone from work.. funny thing is, there is lots of snow around, soft, untouched snow around the whole house. No snow fell all night, so if someone was around I'd see footprints, but there was none this morning. So this is extremely strange. I wonder if it was a freaking alien in my backyard. But it was a 'person' I saw. I was in the kitchen, and saw someone through the window, then backed out into another room hoping they wouldn't catch me. Who knows, maybe it was an alien, and they interacted with me and programmed my memory in a weird way. Why else would I remember seeing someone in my backyard with no footprints? It was not a dream. I was wide awake. But I remembered when I was drinking coffee that it happened last night. Very weird indeed. And the strangest part is, when I saw this person in the backyard, I thought I was certain I knew who they were and wanted to hide from them... yet now I can't remember who it was.

Turns out this probably was nothing alien at all, and most probably an OBE event. I just talked to my mentor who said he was worried about me the other day because I was ignoring his calls all depressed. So not only was he thinking of looking through my windows, he said he was specifically standing in the middle of my backyard. On second thought, the memory of him or his wife makes more sense, that's why I'm so sure... And then climbed up the porch to look in. So it was him, I'm 99% sure. He has a very powerful spiritual energy about him and is connected to the higher spirit...as well as has demonstrated psychic abilities in the past, and probably used in some milab bloodliner program, so it's possible he could do this....and another thing...the Toltec shamans say you need to not release too much sexual energy in order to strengthen the double dreaming / etheric body to use in OBE travel. Well the guy who OBEd to my backyard the other night can not have sex due to pain from medical malpractice (balls cut off and sewn back on, felt like a kick in the nuts every day for 25 years now...). So perhaps he had a high level of this unreleased sexual energy in his system which made it easier to project? Perhaps.

whoknows

02-21-2015, 07:58 PM

Hehe I don't think I would have ever made it as a Toltec shaman!

lycaeus

07-19-2015, 04:39 AM

I've had a few odd experiences since I've last posted here. Off the top of my head are a few things I'd like t share...

Researchers want physical evidence. Okay, I have that. And it corroborates with another 'milab' friend I've met online. We get along great, and are like brothers from different mothers. Had very similar dreams and life struggles. Anyways, we discovered that we both have scoop marks in our face. Yeah, I have one on my right temple which appeared I believe in my teens. He has a couple on both temples. He gets random needle marks sometimes too, and I've noticed a few on my vein on the inside of my elbow joint. I don't worry or speculate about those marks too much now. Though something probably goes on... I can share pictures if anyone cares to see. There is also information from The Cassiopaeans channeling people can search up about scoop marks if they want to. Its pretty interesting. The Cassiopaeans say that scoops of skin are used for cloning. My friend I mentioned had dreams of being put into social situations of cloned people. He also had similar dreams as me of doing like military training exercises in warehouses, sometimes with reptilian hybrids who shapeshift in some dreams. I think the warehouse scenarios are to see who has good teamwork, leadership, and other skills to exploit by the handlers. I also had a couple dreams of being in what seem like cloned bodies too. So yeah, I think they put you into cloned bodies as well as virtual realities in abductions. I also got a recent synchronicity when talking about this exact same thing where I repeatedly heard [in a movie on TV] "parallel reality, parallel reality". Maybe that is a hint... Also, my friend also had experience with a yellow-green fluorescent liquid. We think this liquid is used to shake you out of your body and be put into another body, similar to the Ted Rice experience written of by Karla Turner.

Another thing I experienced that I would like to share is that I saw some aliens I've never seen online or any movies...

A couple months ago I lied down to sleep on the couch. As soon as I closed my eyes I was in another reality! I was on a table and these strange aline beings were around me. I opened my eyes, looked around the room, and everything was normal. I was fairly tired though too. I closed my eyes again and was back in the other reality. I did this multiple times, opening and closing my eyes, checking out my room. It wasn't like a dream, it was like I could suddenly be in another dimension as soon as I closed my eyes. Very weird! In this other reality, I was lying on a table and the "alien"-looking beings were around me. I think they were robotic cyborgs, biological, cloned flesh machines. They looked similar to greys. Very cold and mean. They had human-sized all black eyes. They were short too. They were all whitish translucent with a tiny hint of blue-green in them. There were lines going all around them, like scratch-indents along their bodies and face. Something akin to meridian lines of the human body, or computer-chip circuitry I think, not much, just some sporadic lines along their body. They didn't have big almond heads (or eyes like I said). They had normal human sized heads. And another crazy thing about this experience was that as these beings were around me on the table, this big spider crawled over my chest up to my face. It was the same translucent colour with the same hints of blue and green. Dunno what the heck that was all about...

Here are some pictures of similar beings. I've heard this picture is of a Rigellian Grey, said to be some of the most advanced and cruel alien beings. Although, the beings I saw seemed more robotic and soulless, like synthetic mass-produced worker-clones than sentient beings like these hawk-faced aliens:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dn4s1c12rp8cefs/rigellian.jpg?dl=0

There was a picture of a cloned synthetic alien I found online from some movie but it's hard to find. The line-marks I mentioned are portrayed much like what I saw. If I can find it on google I'll share it here :)

Another thing I'd like to mention...

I talked of a man I lived with as a father figure for a few years... I said he was like James Casbolt. Well to keep it short, Casbolt looks like the Chris Raynes / Supriem Rockefeller guy written about online. Interesting, because there is a picture I found online of a Sergej Rockefeller who looks exactly as I did at the same age of about 19, especially when I had the same haircut. My family was weirded out by the picture. He is 2 years older than me. I also met another milab friend online. He found a professional guitarist who looks exactly like him. So I think there may be some genetic projects going on... I've heard there is a little-known black ops project called M.A.L.D.A. that might have to do with this, as well as Project Surrogate. But I really don't know what's going on. I Personally know that SOMETHING is going on though. I have my own little personal experiences that don't give me the option to assume its possible aliens and abductions and black ops technologies don't exist and affect people illegally and such.

lycaeus

07-19-2015, 04:53 AM

Okay another thing...

I mentioned in the past I had a dream where I was on a trolley train underground to Toronto. In the dream, I called it the " new 2-way suspended transportation network". A while ago, I saw a picture that triggered that dream memory. A researcher told me that is exactly what these things are called! Odd that I came up with that strange specific term in my dream.... I remember, the weirdest part of that, I'll write here again, is that on that train there was this red light that floated past us passengers up and down the aisles, as if affecting or reading our auras or something, scanning maybe IDK... then it went to another train-car into some big computer tower technology thing...

Here's the picture:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jwhii3yyikruttq/suspended_transportation.jpg?dl=0

...

I also probably have some demon/s or phantoms or ghosts hanging around me too as much as I'd hate to admit it. My girlfriend woke me up in the morning to tell me she had a dream where a demon was walking around my bedroom. It looked like an old, very mean man, with a really wrinkly forehead and very dark. It looked out the window. She forgot even telling me about it, probably because of clicking into wakeful consciousness disconnected from the dreamy state of mind. But she surely described it to me. I feel demonic type beings attack me in unseen ways and that is part of my struggles and challenges in life. But overall I am winning the fight and getting less negative manifestations and much more happiness :)

lycaeus

07-19-2015, 04:56 AM

A few days ago, I had a dream there were 3 suns in the sky. FWIW :)

majicbar

07-19-2015, 05:19 AM

A few days ago, I had a dream there were 3 suns in the sky. FWIW :)

It sounds like a past life memory, any other evidence you might be a "walk-in"?

lycaeus

07-19-2015, 07:43 AM

It sounds like a past life memory, any other evidence you might be a "walk-in"?

Hmm interesting question, thanks. I think it could have been a past life memory...but although my memory is foggy, I'm pretty sure this was a dream of the world I'm living in now. I do not think I'm a walk-in because I don't feel I sudden;y entered this body after another soul left, or I entered a vacant body. What I strongly feel I am is what the Cassiopaeans material and Ra Material calls a "Wanderer" type of soul. And indigo as well since I have a purple/blue/indigo aura which has been observed by at least 3 people who told me. Reason I doubt the walk-in theory is I remember my whole life basically, like even getting my diaper changed, being in the 'jolly-jumper'...even my first birthday where people put a stupid ribbon on my head which I disliked so I slammed my plastic toy house shut on them LOL. Granted, these memories could be purely biological so IDK for sure.

Earlier on in this thread though, I wrote of a vision I had where I saw a second solar system intersecting our own on a sharp angle. It was about 2001 I saw the movie Mission to Mars. The scene with the alien showing the humans the earth solar system in the alien holographic planetarium. That scene might have triggered an alien memory...or it was a holographic overlay, or visual thought insemination for me to see. I even was astounded to see that in the movie there is not a second solar system in that scene. Was the past reality edited so that our current timeline has a version of that movie without a second solar system? Or maybe this was something I was taught before I incarnated here and the memory was triggered by that movie? IDK...maybe it was a random hallucination, but interesting enough nonetheless.

And I think I should add that I think this dream may have been a vision of two suns, and the third cosmic body might simply have been our normal moon I think.

Well, there are cosmic energies affecting earth now, and could very well be some large planets affecting the earth's magnetic field. Maybe it will cause very cataclysmic events. If you read the Nexus Seven document called 33 Arks, it talks about how the incoming cosmic energies can manifest differently dependent upon human consciousness. Consciousness is what apparently collapses the quantum waves into manifestation. Without it, things are in a state of flux and infinite potential. The coming cosmic bombardment of energies might manifest as harsh, cataclysmic destructions, causing pain and suffering for the necessary sake of growth and evolution and healing. But they could also manifest as catalytic spiritual evolutionary energies. The Nexus Seven (who may be hybrids) say it really depends on what humans need to evolve. Evolution must happen one way or another. If we need pain and suffering t grow spiritually, then we'll end up in a timeline with that. If we are spiritual enough to evolve with love, self-direction, creativity, and wisdom, we'll end up in a timeline that accommodates that. The overwhelming preponderence of empty people makes me think that most of their soul energy is invested in a different timeline more resonant with their vibratory signature. So I think we are at a point where different timelines are branching and intersecting. Lots of time travellers that people simplify as aliens are tweaking things by giving people visions, subconscious influences, and outright interference into human affairs.

lycaeus

07-23-2015, 03:12 AM

Last night around midnight we saw a big light shoot right across us while driving on the road. Two of us saw it. We live right on a mountain ski resort. There is a giant "S" marking around the mountain which I heard is a marking for a base but I can't say for sure. It was interesting because it was definitely too low to be a plane and way too fast to be any kind of bird, not even a peregrine falcon because it was lit up, and there were no lights to light up a bird... if that's possible anyways. We just saw it shoot really quick right towards the mountain. So I think it was some sort of advanced drone or aircraft of some sort maybe going into a possible base.

lycaeus

07-30-2015, 04:07 AM

lycaeus

08-11-2015, 11:35 PM

Noticed 2 odd things today that I felt I may as well make a note of. Not to be paranoid or obsess and give some beings more energy to manifest in my realm more...just to make a quick note...

My girlfriend noticed a red dot behind my ear, and its not a pimple, more like a cut, a poke of some sort, about 3mm wide, all red. Could be a bug bite I suppose. Apparently that's a common site for implants, maybe it was a needle or something. And last night my girlfriend was scratching my back before we fell asleep, and was well aware that she had all her fingernails nice and long, no broken ones. But she woke up with 2 broken nails and has no idea how she broke them. Maybe she grabbed something in a panic during a check-up? I also can't for the life of me remember banging my head behind my ear on anything recently.

lycaeus

08-13-2015, 03:39 AM

But she woke up with 2 broken nails and has no idea how she broke them.
And the odd part is, that it was only the top layer of fingernails that were missing, not the second layer. Just the top layer of 2 fingernail tips. If the tips of the toenails were taken off, just the top layer, it would have been noticeable due to the full coverage of her toenail polish. But the fingers were not completely covered. So maybe it was a sample taken for DNA. I suppose that is a possibility, maybe not.

lycaeus

09-17-2015, 02:22 PM

A couple interesting dreams the past few weeks.

1 -

Some divine, godly being talked to me in the form or a young human boy. I was awestruck, thinking it was God talking to me, or some advanced, glorious angel. I was sad to forget most of what he told me in the morning, but I do remember him saying that the serpent has me bad, it is manipulating me. He said many other things. I woke up with this strong knowing that something beyond this world loves and cares about me. The energy of this experience was amazing, and it was very encouraging.

2 -

My girlfriend woke up with a small dot bruise on the inside of her wrist having no clue how it got there, about 5mm across, like a jab or something. She was in a building, and there was a room of glass walls in the middle. She wore a ski mask thing to dull her vision. Her and a bunch of others in there were told there was a killer in there they were supposed to kill. The lights went out and the hunting began. She saw this guy staring at her weird and attacked him. She woke up really tired.... I think this could have been a testing scenario. The death instinct could be used to try to trigger latent psychic abilities in individuals. Apparently some abilities manifest for people in life or death situations. The blindfold or dulling of vision might also be for that aim as well. She can read auras and is somewhat psychic so who knows. She has no experience with aliens or abductions as far as she can recall.

lycaeus

05-01-2016, 07:00 PM

I (guess somewhat serendipitously) just found something that is like the purple/violet light/mist phenomena I experienced, referenced way back in this thread here (http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1052-Suspicious-Experiences-Possibly-Related-To-Alien-Abduction-Phenomenon&p=30697&viewfull=1#post30697) and here (http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1052-Suspicious-Experiences-Possibly-Related-To-Alien-Abduction-Phenomenon&p=31309&viewfull=1#post31309).

An old newspaper article from 1936 had a story about a plane being being engulfed in so-called 'purple flames' amongst a halo of purple, followed by a flash of white light and electrical failures and darkness on the plane.

PICTURES OF ARTICLE (http://truthseeker444.blogspot.ca/2016_02_01_archive.html)

Air Pilots Nightmare

PURPLE FLAMES CENTRE ROUND PLANE

MYSTERY HALO IN STORM

MACHINE FORCED DOWN

The weird experiences of Flying-Officer L. T. Jackson, who with two wireless operators was forced down in the sea near Le Treport, suggest that meteorological disturbances may explain the mystery of a number of air crashes in France.

Flying-Officer Jackson arrived at Croydon Airport yesterday, having travelled by boat and train from France.

"We were returning from Paris after delivering bullion there", he said.

"About midnight the weather was calm, with a clear starlit sky, suddenly there was a severe hail-storm at 2,000 feet and what appeared to be a halo of purple centred around the air screws."

PURPLE FLAME

"There was also a small purple flame on each wing top, and in front of the wind screen.

In about two minutes this was followed by a blinding flash which put the wireless out of order, and rendered the compass and other instruments useless. Our Lights also failed and we were in complete darkness.

I calculated that we were about six miles from the French coast . It was too dark to see, and I manoeuvred round for some moments.

Suddenly I recognised a light in the distance and concluded that it was Le Treport.

I made for there, but the engines began to flag, and knowing the coastline and the danger of running into the high cliffs, I decided it was better to land in the sea.

SWAM TO SHORE
_______________

I did so. We clambered onto the top of the plane and I decided to jump for it .
I found we were in about 10 foot of water. I swam ashore and called for my colleagues to follow."

Flying-Officer Jackson added that he had never previously experienced such remarkable meteorological conditions. He thought it was very possible that similar disturbances had been the cause of a number of hitherto unexplained disasters.

SOURCE : http://truthseeker444.blogspot.ca/2016_02_01_archive.html

I'm not sure if I mentioned this other bit I heard about purple lights, but for the record... a couple years ago I chatted online with a guy who said he was a high-ranking freemason. He seemed to know a lot, and said he met some advanced interdimensional being hosted in a synthetic human body, apparently it was like a leader of some sort... anyways, he said that purple light is used in 'gate tech' meaning portal technology. God knows...

A99

05-01-2016, 07:33 PM

lycaeus

05-02-2016, 02:06 AM

I've spoken about the phenomenon I'm describing below at OM....

The "others" DO show up sometimes looking like a changing amorphous shaped pool of water that's floating in mid-air with gentle bluish and purplish (and pinkish) colors swirling in it as well as subtle electrical effects in it too. It's very hard to describe but I've seen the same thing on a few occasions. As always, various kinds of atmospheric noises will occur in my environment as well as in my head... simultaneously just before and during its appearance. Sometimes I've seen things within the phenomenon. One time it was a baby and another time I saw two hands with rays coming out of it.

I've put my hand through it when it has showed up just to see what would happen and doing that seemed to elicit a response from it in the form of my hand tingling and the noise getting louder. There would be more movement within it too when I would do that.

At any rate, I would never know if whatever it was, was an alien intelligence or something like the Holy Spirit. I nevertheless would feel a sense of joy and calmness when it would appear. It seemed to me to be a living being.

My God that's freakish. Very cool experience! My feeling is that something like that probably isn't the purist, or most noble/divine manifestation of God. Sounds like some interdimensionals are interested in you. Or maybe you are just psychic and can see these things more often that other people can't see? Your experience of hands with rays sounds really flashy, and I think divine guidance and inspiration would be more elegant, eloquent, subtle, and natural. Judging from my experiences of synchronistic experiences, it seems the more divine manifestations are more subtle and intuitively resonant (plus graceful), and the more evil manipulation is really flashy, exciting, in-your-face stimulation designed to get you riled up... This also reminds me of the infamous 'blue light' that engulfs abductees during abductions. ...my conclusion is... that we are like flatlanders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4) trying to interpret the 3D world beyond us. We might give names and descriptions to manifestations of these weird things, yet we might barely be scratching the surface of understanding the complexities of this other-dimensional or "density" of reality that we catch intersecting our own sometimes.

A99

05-02-2016, 02:50 AM

Thanks for commenting on that and much food for thought. Need time to process what you're saying here and will comment later on it. :)

Edward

05-02-2016, 03:10 AM

Fore

05-02-2016, 05:14 AM

Interesting, I am wondering if color means anything at all? I've seen the green mists a lot when I was younger. Maybe that's indicative of this too but perhaps it signifies something different? Perhaps location or type of portal or could be a product of that dimension of where its coming from or breaching into the one who see's it? I don't know. It's a mystery but if this does signify some sort of portaling technology or happenings then the colors I would imagine have to mean something??? Perhaps the means of opening said portal?

EdwardThe following is a matter of observation/opinion:

There are two main separate points I'd like to mention.

-->The first main point being that different kinds of observers with different traits can see the same thing in different ways.
There are more than one missing element(s) from the most recent posts that aren't being addressed.
People describe the event but don't describe with which "level of observation" they saw different elements of the event happening before them.

What do I mean by that?

I mean the following, that if I see or witness something. I need to actually describe which elements are seen physically, which are observed through psychic methods and which are experienced "internally" throughout the experience. All these different observations made at different levels of the person can be combined and retold and give the wrong impression to someone else who is unfamiliar with the event.

Why?

Because the pudding and the gold is in the details.

Even though your average person is not accustomed in describing events they experienced with phenomenal detail. You should coax a person into revealing and nailing down the nature of the observed elements through a series of simple questions. So that you (anyone reading this) has a better grasp as to what the person actually experienced.

For example, someone might mention a gaseous form with color. But they do not describe if this is seen during a waking state or through which level of observation. (paranormal, intuitive, internally generated (mental), psychic, physical experience through body level phenomena, etc)

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Without these, specific details, we would end up assuming things which may not be materially true. Or we may begin to attach meaning to an event which is completely different than we assume it to be.

So nailing down and focusing on each element and having the person walk through different details about a specific element is helpful in "grounding" an understanding of what the other person says they experienced. In some cases, (IMO) it may be necessary to ask question which do not let the person relating the event know what you are trying to pin down.

Because if they sometimes do know, they may be inclined to confabulate to make it appear to be something which it was not.

It is a method of teasing the details out of someone without them knowing what your question pertains to.
From that point on, you can then take their story, with all elements pinned down into categories and types of observations and try to figure out what relevance it has to another event which fits that particular finger print.

Failing to do this can lead to people who then associate different kinds of events from different people that have nothing in common but which are similar sounding. Which create confusion and rabid malformed assumptions rather than helpful analysis that enlightens everyone participating in the discovery process.

So I would suggest that people break down the account/story into its elements and actually ask the witness what kinds of observation they used.
================

--->The second main point is the following:

The idea that your brain plays a large role in interpreting an event. Even more so, when it is about extra-sensory information.
When you have two (untrained/uncalibrated) psychics observing someone. They can conclude with very different and contradictory details.

For example, if you had two psychics that are trying to read someones aura, and determine their state of mind, they can both conclude accurately that the person whom they are observing is in a good mood. But the psychic on the left may state that red colors equate to a good mood, while the psychic on the right may say a blue aura equates to a good mood.

The colors and particularities of a psychics observation are rendered through the mind but with help of their neurology.
Meaning that the internal palettes and canvas between the two psychics can be completely different in how they are rendered but both recognize the equivalence of the observation.

In the same way, the sensation of "color" is perhaps not the most accurate rendition of an event when it is observed psychically. The mind tends to fill in details arbitrarily and there are numerous other factors which I won't delve into right now.

As long as you are aware that this mental rendering is how the mind fill in the blanks, and that untrained psychics do not have a standardized format on what means what. You'll soon realize that color is one of the least reliable factors in a psychic observation unless it is done in a defined calibrated format and with rigor.

Inter-cranial stimulation of psychic information is a deep topic. All we should keep in mind is that every person is a slightly different biology and there are many factors which cause their internal rendering to be somewhat arbitrary from individual to individual.

Everyone can psychically observe a gaseous entity, but the colors observed internally can be more about the individuals internal setup than actual objective reality.

A99

05-02-2016, 06:04 AM

My God that's freakish. Very cool experience! My feeling is that something like that probably isn't the purist, or most noble/divine manifestation of God. Sounds like some interdimensionals are interested in you. Or maybe you are just psychic and can see these things more often that other people can't see? Your experience of hands with rays sounds really flashy, and I think divine guidance and inspiration would be more elegant, eloquent, subtle, and natural. Judging from my experiences of synchronistic experiences, it seems the more divine manifestations are more subtle and intuitively resonant (plus graceful), and the more evil manipulation is really flashy, exciting, in-your-face stimulation designed to get you riled up... This also reminds me of the infamous 'blue light' that engulfs abductees during abductions. ...my conclusion is... that we are like flatlanders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4) trying to interpret the 3D world beyond us. We might give names and descriptions to manifestations of these weird things, yet we might barely be scratching the surface of understanding the complexities of this other-dimensional or "density" of reality that we catch intersecting our own sometimes.

You sound like you're familiar with what Padre Pio said about how satan would pose as, for example, a "flashy" angel when he would appear to him and that such pretentiousness like that in terms of ostentatious/over-the-top beauty and manner were indicators to Pio that the being was not of God but of Satan.

Nothing was flashy about those visitations I had of that plasma-like being and those things that showed up in the phenomenon were only defined enough for me to make out what they were but they were at the same level of prominence as those swirling colors and electrical effects of the being. Just thought I would mention that and, to me, what I was seeing was indeed exceptionally elegant in every way. Whatever that being was, like I said, I felt joy and a sense of calm when it would show up. I was never afraid of it and quite the contrary, I experienced a sense of enchantment.

The best we can do is describe what we see. Then our observations on what the being looks like is put in categories based on that criteria.

I agree with you that we are like flatlanders but if the being we see is blue... for example, that's the category it goes into. All we can do now is take whatever we know about it that's based on our observations and place them into the categories that are consistent with those observations. That's the best we can do at the present time.

A99

05-02-2016, 06:55 AM

I agree with Dr. David Jacobs that telepathic information received by experiencers/contactee's/abductees's from ET's, is not reliable enough to be used as criteria in any scientific studies on those demographics. He said that telepathic information is too tainted by the receiver's own thoughts to be a reliable component of any research study.

"An example of the perils of confabulation is telepathy. Communication among beings onboard UFOs is consistently said to be telepathic. Abductees describe it as the sensing of thoughts. Thus, little prevents them from sensing their own thoughts and thinking that they are communications from aliens. This occurs most frequently in abductees' conscious memories."
Quote from "Walking Among Us" by David Jacobs, chapt 1, Confabulation and Error

Edward

05-02-2016, 03:30 PM

The following is a matter of observation/opinion:

There are two main separate points I'd like to mention.

-->The first main point being that different kinds of observers with different traits can see the same thing in different ways.
There are more than one missing element(s) from the most recent posts that aren't being addressed.
People describe the event but don't describe with which "level of observation" they saw different elements of the event happening before them.

What do I mean by that?

I mean the following, that if I see or witness something. I need to actually describe which elements are seen physically, which are observed through psychic methods and which are experienced "internally" throughout the experience. All these different observations made at different levels of the person can be combined and retold and give the wrong impression to someone else who is unfamiliar with the event.

Why?

Because the pudding and the gold is in the details.

Even though your average person is not accustomed in describing events they experienced with phenomenal detail. You should coax a person into revealing and nailing down the nature of the observed elements through a series of simple questions. So that you (anyone reading this) has a better grasp as to what the person actually experienced.

For example, someone might mention a gaseous form with color. But they do not describe if this is seen during a waking state or through which level of observation. (paranormal, intuitive, internally generated (mental), psychic, physical experience through body level phenomena, etc)

================

Without these, specific details, we would end up assuming things which may not be materially true. Or we may begin to attach meaning to an event which is completely different than we assume it to be.

So nailing down and focusing on each element and having the person walk through different details about a specific element is helpful in "grounding" an understanding of what the other person says they experienced. In some cases, (IMO) it may be necessary to ask question which do not let the person relating the event know what you are trying to pin down.

Because if they sometimes do know, they may be inclined to confabulate to make it appear to be something which it was not.

It is a method of teasing the details out of someone without them knowing what your question pertains to.
From that point on, you can then take their story, with all elements pinned down into categories and types of observations and try to figure out what relevance it has to another event which fits that particular finger print.

Failing to do this can lead to people who then associate different kinds of events from different people that have nothing in common but which are similar sounding. Which create confusion and rabid malformed assumptions rather than helpful analysis that enlightens everyone participating in the discovery process.

So I would suggest that people break down the account/story into its elements and actually ask the witness what kinds of observation they used.
================

--->The second main point is the following:

The idea that your brain plays a large role in interpreting an event. Even more so, when it is about extra-sensory information.
When you have two (untrained/uncalibrated) psychics observing someone. They can conclude with very different and contradictory details.

For example, if you had two psychics that are trying to read someones aura, and determine their state of mind, they can both conclude accurately that the person whom they are observing is in a good mood. But the psychic on the left may state that red colors equate to a good mood, while the psychic on the right may say a blue aura equates to a good mood.

The colors and particularities of a psychics observation are rendered through the mind but with help of their neurology.
Meaning that the internal palettes and canvas between the two psychics can be completely different in how they are rendered but both recognize the equivalence of the observation.

In the same way, the sensation of "color" is perhaps not the most accurate rendition of an event when it is observed psychically. The mind tends to fill in details arbitrarily and there are numerous other factors which I won't delve into right now.

As long as you are aware that this mental rendering is how the mind fill in the blanks, and that untrained psychics do not have a standardized format on what means what. You'll soon realize that color is one of the least reliable factors in a psychic observation unless it is done in a defined calibrated format and with rigor.

Inter-cranial stimulation of psychic information is a deep topic. All we should keep in mind is that every person is a slightly different biology and there are many factors which cause their internal rendering to be somewhat arbitrary from individual to individual.

Everyone can psychically observe a gaseous entity, but the colors observed internally can be more about the individuals internal setup than actual objective reality.

I have described it in the past. I'm apologize for not giving further details as I was merely just referencing the very idea that correlates to the other postings since there was a history of it given before. With that said I have no issue about restating the when and where and the how I came to seeing the green light/mists and what conditions I thought I saw them under or took for how I saw it.

For me, the green mist always came for me when I was child in my dream state. I was always scared when I was a child. Especially going to bed and of the dark. I would have have many repeating dream of a similar nature. Though the one that I was most sacred of was the green Mist coming for me in my dream and in my house while I slept. I don't remember anything else about the green mist. Just that it was after me and I do not want the green mist to touch me. It even came for me when I was sleeping with my parents. When I was too big to sleep in the bed and my parents wouldnt let me sleep with them. I slept on the floor next to the bed. It would still come for me, In my dream that is. I have always stated in my other perhaps related posts about abductions is that I really don't remember any physical abductions but I say with the happening in the last 10 years I can pretty surely say with a pretty high accuracy that I have been taken/abducted whatever you want to call it, via my spirit body. I am very certain of this aspect. Now could have this been more of the same when I was little? Perhaps but the green mist has been a mystery for me my whole life. With other people coming forward about other mists annd lights of a different color I start to wonder even more perhaps there might be something to it and it might be a "real" thing. Instead of just a scared child random thoughts.

Edward

Fore

05-03-2016, 03:28 AM

I have described it in the past. I'm apologize for not giving further details as I was merely just referencing the very idea that correlates to the other postings since there was a history of it given before. With that said I have no issue about restating the when and where and the how I came to seeing the green light/mists and what conditions I thought I saw them under or took for how I saw it.

For me, the green mist always came for me when I was child in my dream state. I was always scared when I was a child. Especially going to bed and of the dark. I would have have many repeating dream of a similar nature. Though the one that I was most sacred of was the green Mist coming for me in my dream and in my house while I slept. I don't remember anything else about the green mist. Just that it was after me and I do not want the green mist to touch me. It even came for me when I was sleeping with my parents. When I was too big to sleep in the bed and my parents wouldnt let me sleep with them. I slept on the floor next to the bed. It would still come for me, In my dream that is. I have always stated in my other perhaps related posts about abductions is that I really don't remember any physical abductions but I say with the happening in the last 10 years I can pretty surely say with a pretty high accuracy that I have been taken/abducted whatever you want to call it, via my spirit body. I am very certain of this aspect. Now could have this been more of the same when I was little? Perhaps but the green mist has been a mystery for me my whole life. With other people coming forward about other mists annd lights of a different color I start to wonder even more perhaps there might be something to it and it might be a "real" thing. Instead of just a scared child random thoughts.

EdwardHow do you know when you are taken via your spirit body?

What does it mean to be taken via your spirit body? How do you recognize or differentiate?

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What happens to you when the green mist approaches you?
What happens after it has reached you?
How long do you experience the green mist after it reaches you inside your dream?

Edward

05-03-2016, 06:13 AM

How do you know when you are taken via your spirit body?

What does it mean to be taken via your spirit body? How do you recognize or differentiate?

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What happens to you when the green mist approaches you?
What happens after it has reached you?
How long do you experience the green mist after it reaches you inside your dream?

As to the how do I differentiate the two, I have no conscious memory of being taken physically. I do have memories from the spirit realm/astral realm/dream realm. The one time it was a positive experience and I felt my physical body starting to wake up and I was losing my ability to be where I was and seemingly got pulled back into my body and I woke up fully aware of what happened and saying noooooooooo as I came back into my body. When that happened my conscious state from waking up was like I had already been up. My body, and my mind was not tired or droggy at all. It's an experience I've never really have duplicated in that respect of going from a conscious state in what I called at the time my dream state to feeling being pulled back to my body and waking up all with the same awareness and alertness I had just moments my body waking up.

The other time I was taking via the spirit body didn't start via the dream/astral state. I just found myself in a place and there were lights and colors all around me and that's all I could see. There was seemingly some invisible stuff hold me down and I could feel being restrained. This was all by some what I call electrical energy or energy of some sort. It was affecting my whole body and this same energy was targeting various parts of my body in concentrations. As I was worked on because that's what happened, it happened to me twice in this episode and when I came back to my body I can feel myself and my point of view go through the walls of the house I was in and I could see the place I was at start to disappear. I had laid down at the time and when I woke up it was like only an hr and a half passed by.

There was a third incident that comes to my but that starts in the dream state as well but I had no idea what was going on but in the last few years I chalked it to being abducted on the astral realm and it was one of the first times I can remember feeling something from a "dream". In this instance I was seemingly in a familiar place, my old neighborhood of Tinley Park of which I have had multiple UFO dreams and alien dreams. Anyways the remarkable point in this particular one is that I felt and heard sound when the beam of light from above hit me from above in this "dream".

I will try to find the postings of this again if you want my full account of these. Just let me know.

The green mist was only in my early childhood. It would come after me and I was so scared as a child I felt this paralyzing fear and sometimes it felt like everything was in slow motion and I couldn't get away. When it finally come to me I don't remember anything. All I know is I was very terrified. When it finally reaches me I would just blackout in the dream, wake up, or another dream sequence would start.

Edward

Edward

05-03-2016, 07:19 AM

Well I found the three I was actually referencing. Here they are just for context.

Dec 5, 2004 at 12:57pm

I was back at my old High school in TinleyPark,IL. I was suited up playing Football. I have had many dreams being back playing football at my old school. But this time I had resolution with it. Everything was ok and I felt at peace. After the game was over I was headed toward the school. I was in the building. Then outside coming out of the clouds I saw a space ship fly through it out of it. It was moving very slowly for everyone to see and I mean everyone in the area saw it. Even all the people at the game and the people watching it. There were just a lot of people around. I hurried out of the building, there was some sort of slide poll (fireman’s slide poll) I took that down and ran outside. I went out to take a look. Went back to the field where I just came from and it landed!!! When I looked on board it looked like a ferry or bus like /on the ship it was a transport vehicle. I think perhaps this was altered to give a better sense for us and make it more appealing and comfortable setting. But I definitely had a feeling it was a transport vehicle. When I got on this, there were few people that ventured on it, perhaps 1 other than me. But there were quite a few of others that were on it. Like 3-4 in this area I want to say again that the shuttle was made to look appealing or perhaps that’s what it was in its natural state. It looked like a ferry/bus with the seats and some polls to hang on. Now these 3-4 other persons/people/entities they were short, I'd say about 3-4 feet tall and some shorter. But one was in the back but much bigger than the rest. He was perhaps 5 feet tall. They were shape shifters because they shape shifted in front of me. It was really fast too. But I see it. It was like they/he were changing the radio dial to find the right station. That's how fast it was and that is the feeling I got as they/he were shape shifting. But I saw 4 images of what they/he looked like but while he did this he kept the same size in stature. First one was he had some hair like nose hair over him but it was sporadic. He's a little pudgy and looked he was from underground or a cave dweller. That’s the type of creature I thought he was. He had short stub snot for a nose, it was pushed in. He was all wrinkly and pudgy. Hard to describe that first image he was when I arrived. Next image was an image I saw in a previous dream. Had long arms, tan/peach skin, and had like a double forehead, black eyes. No hair anywhere. Then his next image was a blueish/grey skinned with a pointy chin and what would commonly be described as what we some might call a "grey" looking ET. The next image was and his final image was that of a rock creature. You know like from the Fantastic Four. The Guy that was rock looking. He looked just like that but much smaller and he was more of a clayish color of brown-red. Ok just as that happened I noticed we were taking off. As in moving. But we weren't in side moving that much. But I did feel and initial jerk as we first moved. Now while moving while we were underway the only way I could describe it is that it had the feeling of the Willywonka boat scene. And the walls of the ship tightened up, because I felt myself almost get pinched in them as we picked up speed. And the walls then seemed to bend space and time and light. It was something else. I really got this warped feeling. I felt the ship/transport literally bend it was weird. I knew we were going somewhere. I started talking to the one who was shape shifting in front of me. He was telling me were we were headed. I want to say Alpha Centuri, but it was definitely Alpha something. No I was thinking of Alpha Centuri in my dream but my mind was racing I drowned out what he said and I didn't catch it all. Then the side I was standing on became more translucent. He stepped next to me and said you are going to have to hold on and trust me. And I did. We jumped into the moving and bending light all around us while we were moving. It was like we jumped out of the ship and I think we did into this bending light. The feeling was quite something else definitely felt being twisted and pulled and warped it was something I've never felt before. He just said, to keep holding on, we are almost there. I wasn't too afraid, but I did have some concern but I was confident enough I was in good hands and everything would be ok. After all this twisting/bending and warped feeling of getting pulled apart and having stuff go through me, we finally materialized Or just appeared on his home planet I believe. Now this had a very, very, very........old feel to this place. There were stone objects everywhere. We were walking on a stone walkway. Felt like it was at night time. There were some plants and trees that I could feel that were around me. Everything was lit by flame/torches but more of an underworld feel to it. I want to say that there was a mountain in the background and it was glowing in the distance with red lava or some sort of red light. It all felt templish, like there were temples all around or and that we were in one. Also we walked for a brief while around and we arrived to a place where I stood and he sat in this stone seat. It was raised and came up to my chest this seat. I'll remind you that he only stood 3-4 feet from the ground and this seat was about 4-5 feet off the ground. He hopped up into the chair there and sat down and I was allowed to ask him questions. First question I asked. "People of my world have always asked and wondered, where do we come from and who made us"? He then said almost immediately that you must go with-in and reflect and I pretty much knew that is what he was going to say just as I was finishing up the question. I was getting articulate with my hands and they move a lot when I talk. I inadvertently lightly touched/bumped him on his pinky finger, because his hands where out. I apologized and said, “I was sorry for inadvertently touching him". He seemed to not mind and understood. Then I was asking my second question and I was starting to ask it and then I was formulating it the wrong way and in mid process I was like, what I mean is...........and then I felt myself waking up. I felt myself loose cognitive ability in my dream. I was like **** no not now. I just couldn't get the words to reformulate. And I was like, nooooooooooooooooo. Then I woke up and It was I went from this world to waking up and it was like I was just there two seconds ago and I was like ****, I woke up. Fully aware of what just happened and transpired and I quickly thought about it and I was like I definitely have to get write this down. Also I woke up and I was totally refreshed in waking up too. It was seamless. It was like I was already up but just went from dream state to waking state. Now while in the dream I was trying to remain calm and centered to keep my focus so I could reformulate the question and I was able to hang on for a bit longer but like I said then I woke up. I was like man, when I woke up. I wanted it to continue and I wanted to finish asking my second question. So after I was just sitting on the side of my bed astonished of what transpired. I then went straight to the computer and typed this whole thing. OK, now I need to save.

It's saved.

*******After thought as I now re-read this. When I jumped out of the space craft into the bending light and warped everything, I can recall him feeling a bit thin and fragile. Now weather that means anything I don't know but I just want to get this written down.

That's what from what typed earlier today as I woke up and was remembering what happened in my dream.
I can't tell you how excited I was in this dream and when I woke up I still had that same excitement because like I said it was seamless as I went from dream state to waking up it was like Darn, " I was there and I was that close" I hope this event happens again in some fashion where I can have the opportunity to do and see more in these dreams.
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Everything above is taken from my dream post at the time it happened when I posted it on Earth Council’s forum on Dec. 5th 2004. At the time I immediately attributed it to a dream and it’s how I took it to be but I do believe what happened was due to an astral realm or spirit realm experience and the level of consciousness was different than a regular dream where sometimes things don’t make sense or seems to jump a lot and not really flow. This was very different and I felt my consciousness go from one state to another state and it was seamless just as if I were to be talking on a cell phone to someone then when I was finished and turn to a person next to me and start talking. There was no delineation between my sleep consciousness to when I found myself back in my body sitting up as I was coming back into it and screaming nooooooooooo like I was doing on the planet I was on realizing my body was starting to pull my consciousness back to it. I’ve never had an experience like that since 2004.

to be cont....

Edward

05-03-2016, 07:20 AM

Hey, something happened to me on the Night of April 8th of 2013. I was all a buzz with energy and feeling very good. Actually for the past several days. Anyways, the energy was still with me and I've been hoping for contact of some sorts, either it be physically or in spirit body. I meditated before I went to bed. I still had lots of energy. I meditated for nearly an hour. It was then about 10:00pm I laid in bed just couldn't get to sleep because of the energy I was feeling, I was just laying there and then I roll over look at the clock and its about 11:05 now. Then I lay on my back and Im just getting lost in my thoughts and on the brink of getting sleepy and then the next thing I know I am not physically awake but Im awake some where else. I am feeling this very sharp and agonizing pain. It feels like I'm being restrained. I am laying flat on my back like I was or had been in bed. my upper body and my head, plus my arms, and hands are all feeling this powerful pain. It hurts really bad, but the thing is I'm not scared but it is taxing on my spirit. It feels like Im being drilled into or something with pinpoint accuracy is inserting itself or that what it feels and I feel in my chest cavity on the outer edges perhaps like into the ribs. My knuckles on my hands are hurting too, to this sharp pain. All the while I am being restrained by some force and I can't really see whats going on but there are some varying colors going on all above me and I can't see who or what is around me. I can only feel and sense. Then what seems like a black out I come to. I am in this like what I would call a "recovery room". I see a light from what seems to be attached to a desk like area of to my lower left off in the distance and there is a cabinet area or something over there. I am still laying down on some sort of table/bed still. What looks to be my mother from this lifetime is to my left. And my dad is leaning over my head. I know it's my dad because that's what I feel and it feels like a much younger version of my Dad too. Same goes with my mom. I'm am like how did you get here, and I am thinking these are not my parents. Anyways While all this is happening I am not scared at all and trying to ask questions of what is going on. Before I know it after waking up from what ever happened. I'm tossed right back into another episode of being worked on in the same fashion as before and the pain is so great, and painful and Im wondering what is going on but I am not scared at all. I'm in great pain. Then something is inserted into my mouth, like a rod or Needle of some sort I begin to throw-up then I black out and very soon after that Im waking up again in either the same "recovery room" or a very similar one. This time there is what looks like to be a Nurse at the foot of my bed she is holding something and looking at it and I take it she was there to look after me. She was a black looking human but I knew she wasn't quite human. Here head/skull was very different from any human we know of and plus it seems to be disfigured. I asked here telepathically let me see who you are, and whats going on me with me. Then I asked out loud did you hear what I said. She looked at me and nodded but did not answer my questions. So she did hear me telepathically. While this was going on I was hearing my roomates phone ringing downstairs so I know this wasn't physical, or shall I say something was going on. On a different plane of existence. Then I started to wake up and as I got back in my body, my eyes are closed I was seeing this light that was in the "recovery room" and I was to my right and there was a desk it was coming from. It started to fade away and as that happen I was seeing the wall next to my bed merge with that of that light and then I opened my eyes. As I opened my eyes I was still having lots of energy still and I went downstairs to the bathroom and I looked at my body and my hands to see if I can see any marks and nothing, nothing at all. I wondered what the Hell just happened to me. Was I remembering something that happened to me, that was repressed? That was the first thing that crossed my mind the second thing was, I think I was just tinkered with on the spirit realm. This is what I'm really thinking.

At this moment I am curious to ask my parents what the room was like when I was born because that has also crossed my mind. Perhaps I was reliving my "birth" or something that might of been going on after I was just was born. But as I was thinking about this thing lots of ideas came flooding in but then I just went back to sleep. Oh yeah when I woke up it was like 11:50 pm.

This is one of the most powerful experiences I have had and Im wondering the pain I felt last night if it was possible to feel that even though it may have been repressed after all these years if it indeed was a physical happening. I'm wondering if that might be possible that my body go through that pain again kinda like a flash back. If not some sort of memory I would have to say this was a "live" experience on the astral/spirit realm.

Note: I had since talked to my parents and from what they told me about my birth no information correlates what so ever.

Something to add. When I was speaking of the energy and the buzzing feeling I had it was coming from my heart center/chakra and it was activated and when I came back or out of what ever happened to me. I had a noticable drop in being able to "feel" that. Then energy was still there but I felt different. Perhaps what ever was done to me was to turn down that access to one of my energy centers or perhaps my spirit was so taxed do to the excruciating pain that I was still reeling but that doesn't make sense as I type this now because I have never really fully recovered to being able to have those feelings again. You know when you have good energy vs blockages. The blockages is a heavier denser feel to it and it just felt like instead of me getting tunned up that I got tunned down.

Edward

Re: My Experiences (Grey, Pleiadeans and Oddities)
« Reply #2906 on Aug 22, 2010, 8:09pm »
Thanks fore.

One thing that still lingers in my head and I guess I just have to share it, is this. The time I got abducted in my dream/astral state. Now this felt very real in the dream for I was able to hear and feel what was happening then the scene just ended. I will recount it here for you now. In my dream I was seemingly walking down the sidewalk in a familar place that looked like where I grew up. TinleyPark,IL. About 90 pecent of my ufo and alien dreams stem from this familar place from my dreams. Anyways it was night time and as I was walking down the sidewalk in this subdivision, I was then hit with this whitish light/beam from directly over head. It came with a sound and frequency with it. Of various modulations. There were two distinct sounds, one of a humming sound and one of a much higher pitch and it felt like my head/brain was segmented by this sound were as to half of my body was like paralize , when infact all of it was but I was able to make a slight distinction with being able to feel a little bit part of half of my body where the other half was just totally numb/imbolized. Anyways, I get upended and turned upside down, Im haning just mere feet in the air off the ground say like two-4feet and as this happens my glasses fall off of me. I am then thinking in my head/saying. You better not hurt me something along those lines and then after that , that dream sequence was over.

Edward

Fore

05-04-2016, 06:30 AM

A99

05-04-2016, 12:33 PM

Fore stated:
The first post you made when we started talking sounds like (in my opinion, I may be wrong) like a typical encounter with a paranormal entity. The gaseous type without a fixed form.
And your own encounters with a cute blond girl and greys were not paranormal entities also? Yet you are claiming they are ET's? Why, because they told you so? Just because they showed up looking like physical beings to you, does not mean that they too were not "PARANORMAL" entities too as such intelligences can show up at any level of density.

Just because the shape and personality of an entity shows up in a defined shape and form does not mean that it's not a "PARANORMAL" entity because they can show up in any shape or form including an amorphous gaseous type phenomenon amongst others, too many to post here.

So your opinion on this is, in my humble opinion, incorrect.

Fore asked:
What is your background in the ET phenomena side of things?
So, until now, you've never read any of Edwards posts regardless that he's been around since at least 2004 (when you include his years at OM too)? He was a prolific poster there too as he is here, btw. Good that you're finally venturing out of your own ongoing Fore blog/thread and reading about those experience's of others at this forum and the last one.
Doing so might should indicate to you that your own opinions on things needs to be re-evaluated in light of those experiences of others outside of your own and you might learn a few things.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here... I'm just stating the obvious. At least you're trying now so in that respect, I'm proud of you and by all means, keep up the good work! :)

Fore

05-04-2016, 05:39 PM

A99

05-04-2016, 07:03 PM

Btw Edward, ET's are paranormal too... we already know that and they have their own technology on their end to assist them in manifesting into our dimension at various densities... including full density.

They may be physical beings on their own planet though but they are able to transform into another "state" when traveling across the universe to visit other worlds. Doe's this qualify them as physical beings even if that's not the state that they are in as space travelers? Yes and no. ;)

Also, ET's can be in amorphous gaseous states too but the paranormal component is inherent is all factor's of ufology. That's a major characteristic of the UFO/ET phenomenon.

The above info is only my humble opinion and nothing more.

Edward

05-05-2016, 03:56 AM

These last descriptions are strange. They sure are like what abductees might describe in an experience. Have you read up on abductions by the time you wrote about these events?

What I found strangest is that you felt you woke up without the average wakefulness people describe going through as they wake up. Though you did also mention that you memories of the events started to fade like usually happens when you mind switches to a wakeful state. So that seems a bit weird.

The other point I found weird was that you felt your chest ("the energy") noticeably different. Wonder if something is projecting things or if like you said they are memories of some event?

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The first post you made when we started talking sounds like (in my opinion, I may be wrong) like a typical encounter with a paranormal entity. The gaseous type without a fixed form. What you also described in your sleep state in that one, you mentioned what is typical of being suppressed while in a sleep state. You also answered certain questions in a way that indicates you had something paranormal nearby during that period of time.

The buzzing sensation in limbs and seemingly paranormal communication that another member mentioned and the electrical discharges surrounding the entity also seem typical for a paranormal event. (well the electrical discharges probably being less common unless it was a very dense phenomena)

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Your dreams of what you described as an alien encounter seem very detailed and (perhaps I am wrong about this) don't seem like the typical dream notions a person would normally think up. The light bending and compression and the various transformations seem a-typical for regular dream content and the chest sensations makes me wonder if you have had something going on with ET?

What is your background in the ET phenomena side of things?

I didn't read up on abductions I've seen them on tv before like Unsolved mysteries with Robert Stack and other show's like that, but not in my early childhood though.

Yeah My Heart chakra was open and spinning, I had initially thought that maybe they were doing me a service since perhaps other parts were not in balance? It did cross my mind. Maybe they had to turn it down?

As for something going on with ET, what do you mean?

I really don't have any background. All my ET like experiences stem from my dreams and that of which really started happening when in 2003/2004 when I started to "wake-up" in terms of my consciousness and spiritual journey. TinleyPark,IL had its UFO Flap in back to back years of 2005-2006. I had since moved away and wasn't living there at the time and during this time a lot of dreams involving ETs was going on but I didn't know about the flap until like a year or two later like 2007-2008 when I found about it online.

Edward

Edward

05-05-2016, 04:00 AM

Fore

05-05-2016, 07:08 AM

I really don't have any background. All my ET like experiences stem from my dreams and that of which really started happening when in 2003/2004 when I started to "wake-up" in terms of my consciousness and spiritual journey. TinleyPark,IL had its UFO Flap in back to back years of 2005-2006. I had since moved away and wasn't living there at the time and during this time a lot of dreams involving ETs was going on but I didn't know about the flap until like a year or two later like 2007-2008 when I found about it online.

EdwardIn my opinion then, you probably had something watching you. Unless it is a coincidence you describe a very rich abduction scenario. (Even if inside a dream state....)

It makes me wonder.

I recall there was a Grey (If I recall correctly) who mentioned the various (variations of) process of how people ~"wake up"~ or ~"become alert"~ after an abduction in a place where sleeping is inappropriate state to be left in.

To cut the story short, and without giving away something sensitive to anyones draw out anyones ire.

The ~mean center~ of the variations discussed is that the ET mentioned that people walk away quite (functional) in the body driven sense until they are ready to "re-awake". (become functionally conscious)

It was said that when the individual walks away and the ET are no longer able to maintain a directed control remotely, the individual cycles through discrete stages until they "wake" up even though their eyes are "already open". It's like the brain is re-sequenced in it's activity back into it's original state.

The main point is that the ET are supposed to be out of sight by the time that happens.

One variation of the protocol before or after the wakeful state is that the individual carries out a....what the appropriate word....~a guided task~, before they fully return to their fully alert and waking self.

A guided task ~=~ Something like a post-hypnotic command carried to it's conclusion. Only it isn't what is defined as hypnotic...at least not by human standards.

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Point being, they can drive functionally for miles until they reach an appropriate trigger (destination) and then the rest of their conscious mind flips on and the normal memory and cognition routines begin to take hold. Which from their point of view can be confused for missing time.

In other words, the victim, from their point of view assumes they were "just there" and there isn't any perceived continuity of events.

That is supposedly a less used variant since the ET's used to say they prefer the optimal method of restoring full operating conscious awareness from a sleep state or from a state of loss of memory with prior wakefulness. (complicated nuanced topic)

The point was that some ET's prefer less noticeable out of place scenarios unless circumstances make it problematic.

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Anyway, you comment that you didn't seem to come out of sleep state or perceived any sleep state caught my attention. I noticed that raised flag in your story in at least one of the described situations. Thought I should point it out.

A99

05-05-2016, 04:37 PM

Thanks A99. I appreciate and respect everyone's insight. I really do, thanks.

Edward

I like to read different insights on people's experiences too but when it comes to Grey aliens, there's much more information (than not) out there to support the view that they ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS. In fact, due to the major role they have played in the abduction phenomenon, I think it would be fair to say that they are hostiles.

Because of this, I would be very hesitant to accept any channeled/telepathic, or whatever one chooses to call it, information from a Grey alien on well... anything. How should anyone expect that a hostile, like a Grey alien, would be telling the truth about anything to us? But this is only if it is, in fact, a Grey alien in the first place that's relaying the message as there's absolutely NO WAY to tell if that's true or not. Information like that could be coming from any number of different kinds of sources... one being from the mind of the human receiver himself/herself.

Having said this though, it's entertaining to read stuff like that especially if the receiver of such messages just so happens to also be proficient in the art of writing. But it would seem that it's best to remain cautious wrt its veracity in terms of source and content.

Fore

05-05-2016, 05:19 PM

@ Edwards

I humbly apologize for the out-bursts of my colleague above. Greys probably made her do it. (Just kidding!)

Indeed, you should go and verify the veracity of that information. ;)
It is common (shared) knowledge across more than one type of ET.
Sort of like opening a refrigerator is common knowledge between your average human being.

@ Those Watching (puts on acting cap)

Also, I would advise the invisible "fourth wall" (of whoever might be watching or reporting on the following text to another supervisor to forward this statement) that my colleague above is my handy assistant and pressures me into proving things which I have in my knowledge-base. I would love it if you would welcome her personally into the fold and perhaps try out some of the descriptive elements on her in person. As for me, I will decidedly abstain.

She's recently prodded many individuals to "go and see" if the stated material is true or false. I am so happy to see her do that. Elated even!
Imagine this, they are going to go check and see. What will they find?
I am really thinking of saying ever more. It's all because she edges me to do so.

At the same time, I wonder, will this be "a problem" for you or your agenda? Hmm.

I dunno. But she keeps edging me on to say more, I wonder what factor(s) would stop me from doing so.

I recommend the following, you should send someone (says I, to the "fourth wall") and meet and greet with my assistant. Please do be kind in sharing your thoughts on this matter. Whats that, you intend to stay silent, that fine. I'll just have to say more until she is satisfied. It will be a win-win scenario.

Very fun indeed. But remember, if she stops, I stop. I'll do my best until then. :)

(ET trolling at it's best)

Fore

05-05-2016, 05:39 PM

I would also like to point out something which is a healthy observation.

First, it makes little sense to call out someone for restating information.
Second, stating a speciest (racist) sentiment.
Finally stating that the individual doesn't have any legitimate contact experience.

Because if the third point is true, then the second doesn't have a place, nor does the
first need to be stated as if you were referring to a real event.

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Internal consistency is a sign of a healthy mind.

Decide once and for all which is your ultimate stance, at least do that much.
(And then all previous episodes of yours in your history are probably a clear sign of an unsound mind? oops)

If you conclude there is no truth to it.
Then there is no need to bring up the topic of "Greys are liars".
No need to critique any point about psychic phenomena related information. (Because there wouldn't be any right?)

One initial conclusion trumps all the others.
So be of a healthy and sound mind and decide which stance you'll take.

And for God's sake, stop waffling. ;p

Fore

05-05-2016, 05:52 PM

Garuda

05-05-2016, 07:22 PM

Fore stated:
And your own encounters with a cute blond girl and greys were not paranormal entities also? Yet you are claiming they are ET's? Why, because they told you so? Just because they showed up looking like physical beings to you, does not mean that they too were not "PARANORMAL" entities too as such intelligences can show up at any level of density.

Just because the shape and personality of an entity shows up in a defined shape and form does not mean that it's not a "PARANORMAL" entity because they can show up in any shape or form including an amorphous gaseous type phenomenon amongst others, too many to post here.

So your opinion on this is, in my humble opinion, incorrect.

Fore asked:
So, until now, you've never read any of Edwards posts regardless that he's been around since at least 2004 (when you include his years at OM too)? He was a prolific poster there too as he is here, btw. Good that you're finally venturing out of your own ongoing Fore blog/thread and reading about those experience's of others at this forum and the last one.
Doing so might should indicate to you that your own opinions on things needs to be re-evaluated in light of those experiences of others outside of your own and you might learn a few things.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here... I'm just stating the obvious. At least you're trying now so in that respect, I'm proud of you and by all means, keep up the good work! :)

Fore stated:
And your own encounters with a cute blond girl and greys were not paranormal entities also? Yet you are claiming they are ET's? Why, because they told you so? Just because they showed up looking like physical beings to you, does not mean that they too were not "PARANORMAL" entities too as such intelligences can show up at any level of density.

Just because the shape and personality of an entity shows up in a defined shape and form does not mean that it's not a "PARANORMAL" entity because they can show up in any shape or form including an amorphous gaseous type phenomenon amongst others, too many to post here.

So your opinion on this is, in my humble opinion, incorrect.

Fore asked:
So, until now, you've never read any of Edwards posts regardless that he's been around since at least 2004 (when you include his years at OM too)? He was a prolific poster there too as he is here, btw. Good that you're finally venturing out of your own ongoing Fore blog/thread and reading about those experience's of others at this forum and the last one.
Doing so might should indicate to you that your own opinions on things needs to be re-evaluated in light of those experiences of others outside of your own and you might learn a few things.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here... I'm just stating the obvious. At least you're trying now so in that respect, I'm proud of you and by all means, keep up the good work! :)

I would also like to point out something which is a healthy observation.

First, it makes little sense to call out someone for restating information.
Second, stating a speciest (racist) sentiment.
Finally stating that the individual doesn't have any legitimate contact experience.

Because if the third point is true, then the second doesn't have a place, nor does the
first need to be stated as if you were referring to a real event.

-------------------------

Internal consistency is a sign of a healthy mind.

Decide once and for all which is your ultimate stance, at least do that much.
(And then all previous episodes of yours in your history are probably a clear sign of an unsound mind? oops)

If you conclude there is no truth to it.
Then there is no need to bring up the topic of "Greys are liars".
No need to critique any point about psychic phenomena related information. (Because there wouldn't be any right?)

One initial conclusion trumps all the others.
So be of a healthy and sound mind and decide which stance you'll take.

And for God's sake, stop waffling. ;p

Admin notice:

@A99 and Fore: the two of you are AGAIN in full mutual trolling mode and my patience with it has worn out completely.

Next one to make any condescending remark about the other is out of here. Understood?

Edward

05-06-2016, 03:57 AM

In my opinion then, you probably had something watching you. Unless it is a coincidence you describe a very rich abduction scenario. (Even if inside a dream state....)

It makes me wonder.

I recall there was a Grey (If I recall correctly) who mentioned the various (variations of) process of how people ~"wake up"~ or ~"become alert"~ after an abduction in a place where sleeping is inappropriate state to be left in.

To cut the story short, and without giving away something sensitive to anyones draw out anyones ire.

The ~mean center~ of the variations discussed is that the ET mentioned that people walk away quite (functional) in the body driven sense until they are ready to "re-awake". (become functionally conscious)

It was said that when the individual walks away and the ET are no longer able to maintain a directed control remotely, the individual cycles through discrete stages until they "wake" up even though their eyes are "already open". It's like the brain is re-sequenced in it's activity back into it's original state.

The main point is that the ET are supposed to be out of sight by the time that happens.

One variation of the protocol before or after the wakeful state is that the individual carries out a....what the appropriate word....~a guided task~, before they fully return to their fully alert and waking self.

A guided task ~=~ Something like a post-hypnotic command carried to it's conclusion. Only it isn't what is defined as hypnotic...at least not by human standards.

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Point being, they can drive functionally for miles until they reach an appropriate trigger (destination) and then the rest of their conscious mind flips on and the normal memory and cognition routines begin to take hold. Which from their point of view can be confused for missing time.

In other words, the victim, from their point of view assumes they were "just there" and there isn't any perceived continuity of events.

That is supposedly a less used variant since the ET's used to say they prefer the optimal method of restoring full operating conscious awareness from a sleep state or from a state of loss of memory with prior wakefulness. (complicated nuanced topic)

The point was that some ET's prefer less noticeable out of place scenarios unless circumstances make it problematic.

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Anyway, you comment that you didn't seem to come out of sleep state or perceived any sleep state caught my attention. I noticed that raised flag in your story in at least one of the described situations. Thought I should point it out.

I never really recalled having any missing time.
Yeah one of only a couple times that happened where I woke up totally refreshed and when I opened my eyes I was back in my body and it felt seamless to go from that planet, back to my body. There was definitely a pulling feeling and I was trying hard to stay where I was but I just couldn't hold it there.

Edward

05-06-2016, 04:00 AM

@ Edwards

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=missing+time+documentary

See if any of those are any good. I haven't seen any (yet) so I don't know whats in them. But if it pleases, then there is a good place to start looking.

Let me know if you find anything interesting. (Or verifying/discounting anything stated)

I'll check them out. Thanks, see if anything correlates or not. From the title alone, missing time I don't ever recall having before.

Edward

Edward

05-06-2016, 04:05 AM

I like to read different insights on people's experiences too but when it comes to Grey aliens, there's much more information (than not) out there to support the view that they ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS. In fact, due to the major role they have played in the abduction phenomenon, I think it would be fair to say that they are hostiles.

Because of this, I would be very hesitant to accept any channeled/telepathic, or whatever one chooses to call it, information from a Grey alien on well... anything. How should anyone expect that a hostile, like a Grey alien, would be telling the truth about anything to us? But this is only if it is, in fact, a Grey alien in the first place that's relaying the message as there's absolutely NO WAY to tell if that's true or not. Information like that could be coming from any number of different kinds of sources... one being from the mind of the human receiver himself/herself.

Having said this though, it's entertaining to read stuff like that especially if the receiver of such messages just so happens to also be proficient in the art of writing. But it would seem that it's best to remain cautious wrt its veracity in terms of source and content.

Well what ever is going on, I have had times where I was conscious enough to ask questions and most of the time I didn't really get answers. Sometimes I did. Those who don't answer I usually take it as those who don't have my best interest. Or they would at least give me the time of day. Who knows. Maybe they are silent for other reasons?

Edward

A99

05-06-2016, 04:54 AM

I'm no spring chicken and I'm not one of those people who have a panoramic view of my life that go way back to my early childhood and earlier. I know that some people claim to be like that but I'm not one of them. But the memories I do have, are like isolated tree's on a barren landscape... the kind of tree's that want to reach out and eat you. Yes, I do have those memories that do not require any keywords or triggers to all of the sudden remember them out of the blue. And some of them are, oddly enough, recurring dreams that were UFO/ET related and others not much so... only for me to recognize many years later that they were embedded with characters and other things too that were screen memories for ETs and UFOs. I had a revelation concerning one of my earliest memories that was a screen for a Grey when I watched that tv series called "Taken". The trailer of that series triggered that revelation and my life has never been the same since. Once that happened, I began to understand those recurring lucid childhood dreams more clearly than ever before.

Those recurring lucid dreams I had occurred in the prehistoric era when the term "alien abduction" was unheard of. In fact, the whole mythology surrounding the UFO/ET phenomenon was not yet a part of our popular culture like it is now.

Well, anyway, the reason why I'm bringing this up, and this is stuff I've posted at OM back years ago in much more detail, but whenever they spoke to me in those lucid dreams... it was usually a directive like "pick up the baby" or an explanation of what I was looking at like "It's your baby and it's dying". So "they" would tell me things but only in short sentences. I never received any long verbal messages... at least in my conscious memories of what occurred in those dreams. But the visuals were very compelling.

lycaeus

05-06-2016, 11:08 PM

I'm catching up now on the recent posts... I stopped getting email notifications for posts on this thread since A99's second post on May 1, even though it still says I'm subscribed to this thread. And I get notifications for other threads from this forum. Just thought I'd do a random check today and there we go...

calikid

05-07-2016, 01:44 AM

lycaeus

05-07-2016, 04:23 PM

Yeah My Heart chakra was open and spinning, I had initially thought that maybe they were doing me a service since perhaps other parts were not in balance? It did cross my mind. Maybe they had to turn it down?

Thanks for sharing Edward. Hearing you describe the green mist is intriguing to me, especially the fear, anxiety, and dislike you had towards it. Just like me! I wanted to punch the violet/purple mist I saw! But I couldn't move...then I blacked out, similar to your experiences, but I was suddenly in an underground tunnel after passing through a whitish blue light. I wonder if it is an astral entity. I was awake in my bedroom when I saw it, (it wasn't a dreamscape) and so, I guess parts of 'my dreaming mind' were activated. People get hypnopompic and hypnagogic visions because their brains are more attuned to that dreaming state, where we are more immersed in our subconscious, where astral experiences can occur.

The part about your heart 'open and spinning' reminded me of when I awoke in bed to feel a strong pulling sensation in my heart. As I was gradually drifting from sleep to wakefulness, I sensed some evil presences around my bed. Then I heard a woman's voice assertively proclaim "WAKE UP." (my guide or helpful being?) So with all my might I did, and the feeling of evil presences went away, and I was left with this tugging on my heart. My best guess was that demons were siphoning the energy from my heart chakra I guess, or maybe some aliens were messing with me, but I think it's the former.

And, after seeing the gaseous coloured mist, since I had a dream I was in an underground tunnel with a guy in a suit, it leads me to theorize that it could have been an entity implanting my dreaming mind with cues and scenarios that would persuade me to think I was abducted to an underground base. For me personally, that is a shocking and frightening thing to contemplate and so, that could likely generate a lot of nightly fears, potential paranoia, obsession, and anxiety surrounding that idea (of being abducted) which equates to more emotional output (or loosh, etheric energies, or 'influence') demonically-resonant with dark vibrations like fear for the demon to feed on.

Fore, thanks for sharing, you're always a pleasure to read. I didn't know colours could be so subjective as a psychic phenomena. In daily normal waking life people perceive the same things differently. I assume that this perceptual filter of subjectivity is greatly enhanced with psychic phenomena where the laws of physicality are more loose, nonlinear, and dynamic.

A99, thanks for sharing too. It's nice to talk to people about this stuff who don't think you're crazy. Thank God for the internet!

lycaeus

08-20-2016, 02:58 AM

I had a psychic attack kind of dream Wednesday night. I'll explain why I'm pretty sure that's what it is in this post.

I think a demon connected to me while I slept, just over 3 hours into sleep (which I believe is deep REM sleep, I think...) It reminded me of what James Bartley wrote about in his Astral Dreamscape Manipulation article online. It's nothing that rare at all. And I think it's the sort of nightly experience that plagues billions of people all the time, affecting their daily lives. How many people have demonic influences festering in their soul at the subconscious level, biasing their thoughts and feelings completely unaware of that influence? How does it affect people in their personal lives, and on and up to worldly events? People just assume it's human nature to be evil and that, without ever questioning human nature and why we are the way we are. And how we got here... What we aren't aware of does end up hurting us, especially when it comes to demonic influences in our lives. Anyways...

I was feeling pretty good on Wednesday. Better than usual and things were going great. At night time, just before bed, I started feeling a little miserable. I don't know why but I laid down and fell asleep peacefully enough. Nothing bad was happening and I was comfortable.

I remember the last bit of the dream. I was watching something perverted involving people in my life. As if it was designed to garner the most negative emotional reaction from me. I was so angry at watching, that I went to fight someone. I grabbed their arms and was immediately surprised at how strong they were! They then hit me in the nose so hard I was sure it was broken, and started rubbing their hand in my nose to give the most pain possible. I struggled, and then woke up sitting up in bed. The crazy part was, that I could still feel the pain in my nose sitting their awake in bed! I touched my nose, looked around the room and told my girlfriend about the dream. For a good 15 minutes my damn nose still hurt! Weird.

But this is the kind of thing experienced by many people in sleep paralysis episodes. They sometimes report feeling effects from the dream after they wake up. I'm guessing it is an energetic imprint upon the astral and/or etheric bodies from the dream, which we still feel when we're awake. (And if we can still feel pain like that after we wake up, it really makes me suspicious of how much the experiences in our dreams can affect us and shape who we are in our waking lives.)

Here's a good documentary on sleep paralysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPsjWqvwT4&feature=share

And the most interesting part of this is... after I woke up, within a few seconds, the power bar to my alarm clock and diffuser surged and shut both of those electronics off. We had to flick the switch back on and reset the alarm clock. (BTW this was around 3am, the infamous 'witching hour' mwuahaha). There was no power outage in town, and nothing else in the house was affected. It was just the power bar sitting right near the end of the bed. Coincidence? It hasn't done this many times before...

My guess is that after I woke up, the demon's energy affected the power bar. It probably fed on me during that dream and gained energy, enough to have more tangible effects on the physical level. Such as, affecting electronics like happens in so many haunted places that people report.

The next day I felt very tired. With everything else in my life taken into account, I was more drained than I logically should be...unless you factor some sort of psychic vampirism into the picture. Getting through the day was exhausting and miserable. Though today I felt much better.

I wonder how people can live like this if it happens all the time. I also wonder how many times this has happened to me in the past without me knowing it. The funny thing is, I remember many times sleeping in and finding that my alarm clock has been reset. A number of times in my life (lets say 5-10 maybe) I've woken up to that. Has it happened before, where a vampiric demon fed on me during my sleep and tripped up the electronics near my bed just for a second? And if this was a psychic attack, then how much energy was taken from me that would make the electronics trip?

Thankfully this isn't a frequent occurrence for me now. Years ago, I would see demonic faces every night when I closed my eyes. But now I don't get that which is great.

I also wonder if the house I'm living in plays a role. I am living with room mates above me on the second floor of the house we share. We're like family and everyone is decent enough. Although one guy has something weird going on. His bed is directly above my own on the floor above. He has a strong entity attachment named George. IDK if it's demonic, or reptilian, both, or a ghost or something else, but some days when he is angry he says he's 'feeling a little George'. He talks to it/him. He is also aware of the alien hybridization agenda, and talks about reptilians living underground. Another interesting thing with him is his skin! It goes flaky pretty often which is common for some black people, but his gets really bad and is especially pronounced when he drinks, which is about once every 2 months. (I wonder if alcohol connects him to a reptilian entity which maybe triggers some latent reptilian genetics in the human DNA, causing the shedding skin, but I don't know, it's just weird, and interesting considering the fact he has a close relationship with some dark entity that sometimes influences him o.O )

And I've felt the house I'm living at has a bad vibe. My girlfriend's 'witch mother' who is a psychic said that the basement we're renting is a very bad place and we should move. So we will, soon enough. In the meantime, I'll just try and keep up a positive attitude and lifestyle so I don't resonate with demonic energy. And incense, lots of incense :)

P.S.
At first I was kind of embarrassed to admit having bad dreams, or problems with demons. Does it mean I'm not as spiritually advanced? Does it mean I'm an evil person who resonates with and attracts demons? Does it mean I'm an ultra-spiritual warrior facing targeted adversity to counteract my supposed godliness? Well it's not black and white with me or with anyone else. I'm a spirited person with real emotions, and real wounds, and real energy. Demons tap into those wounds and weaknesses and magnify them, emphasizing them for you to feel and see in hopes they can sink into you and keep feeding. Or they'll try to instil a potential fear in you. The good part of it is that they bring up shadow material which forces you to look at it within yourself, then heal it by understanding there's nothing to fear. And another important part about being aware of demonic influence is for people to see that a lot of what goes on in their mind might not be coming from themselves. Unfortunately many people identify with whatever implanted thoughts and feelings are coerced through them and so are played like fiddles by occult forces, to be fed upon again and again.