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Lee
01-07-2013, 07:23 PM
An intriguing image was posted at the Examiner website on the 5th january, depicting what is alleged to be a "grounded UFO". Apparently this is a single frame from security camera footage. According to the article the case is currently being investigated by MUFON.

"Texas witness claims security camera captured landed disc UFO
January 5, 2013
By: Roger Marsh

http://i48.tinypic.com/1z23vph.jpg

A Texas witness at Cotulla included one frame from an oil company security camera depicting a "disc-like" UFO on or near the ground in a January 5, 2013, report, claiming the image has already made the rounds among employees, according to testimony from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) witness reporting database.

Readers should be cautious of any photography before MUFON investigates this case. There are a small percentage of reports that are hoaxes; and some photography can further be explained as something man-made or from Mother Nature.

The reporting witness explained the circumstances behind the photograph in the report.

"My father works in an oil company here in Texas, and they had noticed that some people were taking the crude oil in the night," the witness stated. "So they started putting cameras up around the areas. One night one camera caught a UFO."

Read more: http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-witness-claims-security-camera-captured-landed-disc-ufo

Lee
01-07-2013, 07:46 PM
A quick Google search suggests that the company in question would be:

"Buffalo Oil Corp. has a location in Cotulla, TX. Active officers include Jennifer T. Tenery and Mary Emma Tenery."
Source: http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Cotulla/buffalo-oil-corp/32680536.aspx

Anybody want to try and help pin down the exact image location via Google Earth/Maps...?

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=cotulla+texas+oil+and+gas&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=oil+and+gas&hnear=0x865e00df06b3549d:0xfb19d84cf62e97d7,Cotull a,+TX,+USA&ei=hiHrUL-wDYuY1AXk4oCoAw&ved=0CKcBELYD&iwloc=cids:15547673507852717861,162038532093398873 28

Lee
01-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Other points of interest:

"SELWAY CORPORATION was formed on 1989-02-21 in Texas by LEM TENERY located at 163 COTTONWOOD LN, WYLIE, TX 75098-6300."

Universal ID
TX-0110525700

Name
SELWAY CORPORATION

Registration Number
0110525700

Taxpayer ID
30113302753

Type
CORP

Status
NOT IN GOOD STANDING

Formation Date
1989-02-21"

Source: http://businessprofiles.com/details/selway-corporation/TX-0110525700
(http://businessprofiles.com/details/selway-corporation/TX-0110525700)
Their offices are listed as: 163 COTTONWOOD LN, WYLIE, TX 75098-6300. Which appears to be a residential area.

http://i45.tinypic.com/1o3mzq.jpg


This information is presented for research/reference purposes and may or may not be relevant to the image in question.

CasperParks
01-07-2013, 09:32 PM
Grainy black and white security camera falls into suspect category. Are there additional images from that night? Security cameras record for hours at a time.

Lee
01-07-2013, 09:38 PM
Grainy black and white security camera falls into suspect category. Are there additional images from that night? Security cameras record for hours at a time.
That's what I'd like to find out too. If there are more images from the security cam, I'd like to see them. Anybody got the connections with MUFON to make this happen..?

Lee
01-07-2013, 09:48 PM
I also notice that the image carries a date of the 5th July 2012, not 5th Jan 2013. A mistake by the article's author...? (Haven't tried JPEGsnoop yet, has anybody else..?)

Lee
01-07-2013, 10:29 PM
Just found a UFO video from Cotulla, Tx, September 2012. Witnesses describe strange sightings the previous night too. The video description says they were working on a "Frac job", which refers to (Oil?) pipe repairs. Same location...? Possibly!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky4vF8BbCtk

ProblemChild
01-08-2013, 09:16 AM
Found this: (Not the same date but close)

National UFO Reporting Center Sighting Report
Occurred : 6/29/2012 22:20 (Entered as : 6/29/12 22:20)
Reported: 6/29/2012 9:17:46 PM 21:17
Posted: 7/4/2012
Location: Cotulla, TX
Shape: Other
Duration:5 seconds
Large low flying UFO 18 miles outside of Cotulla, TX

I saw strange lights bundled together...some blinking. Instantly I could tell it was out of the ordinary so II pulled over and jumped out to take a phone pic but as soon as i was going to the lights turned off. The moon was very bright with clear skies but I still could not see anything there anymore. The object was low flying....about 3 or 4 hundred feet. It's lights were amazing. It was very large...about 200 feet long and the bundle of lights were going from one end to the other. With the horizon it was at a 40 degree angle. Maybe moving about 50 mph. The background was brush and the UFO was about 1 mile from an oil rig. I was observing the rig and UFO in the same view.

Source:http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/090/S90228.html

Sunset on 5th July 2012 was c.20.30.

ProblemChild
01-08-2013, 11:10 AM
Think this is the first postibg on the net:
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/pictures-videos-64/ufo-caught-surveillance-camera-282404/

OP says later in the thread that it lifted off. Still looks like a trailer of some sort with the wheels/xles obscured by the middle light.

majicbar
01-08-2013, 11:57 AM
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZfptP81esCM/UOn1N_5-FgI/AAAAAAAAOJk/L3fL439LQN0/s640/ufo%2Btexas%2B3.JPG&imgrefurl=http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/01/ufo-lands-in-texas-unknown-saucer-craft-captured-on-cctv-2440498.html&h=261&w=458&sz=25&tbnid=Js6PKcld-jqbgM:&tbnh=68&tbnw=120&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcotulla%2Btexas%2Bufo%26tbm%3Disch%26 tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=cotulla+texas+ufo&usg=__m1WqKnodfzO5TugmrOC26HICCZQ=&docid=35_6vP9EqANzZM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5AjsUI-CEsSQqgGXzYCwDQ&ved=0CD0Q9QEwAzgK&dur=1

The original was in color, I'm surprised that there are not more, supposedly the poster said that a video was also available but it looks like he decided not to post it.

majicbar
01-08-2013, 12:39 PM
http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/01/ufo-lands-in-texas-unknown-saucer-craft-captured-on-cctv-2440498.html

Apparently more has come along so perhaps there will be more yet to come. The above link must have had contact with the original poster.

Marvin
01-08-2013, 01:21 PM
I also notice that the image carries a date of the 5th July 2012, not 5th Jan 2013. A mistake by the article's author...? (Haven't tried JPEGsnoop yet, has anybody else..?)


Correct me if I am wrong... this was a single frame from a video?

If so, JPEGsnoop will not be of any value. We really need to see the video (if this is the case). My concern is we are being shown what the author wants us to see. A single frame from a video at night (in relative darkness) will tend to blur any moving object (depending on shutter speed) into something that appears very strange.



For example:

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8306/220807251235214ab3a0o.jpg

A passing helicopter with a spot light (and blinking lights).

newyorklily
01-08-2013, 01:45 PM
I also notice that the image carries a date of the 5th July 2012, not 5th Jan 2013. A mistake by the article's author...? (Haven't tried JPEGsnoop yet, has anybody else..?)

The event happened on July 5, 2012. The owners of the camera filed a report with MUFON on January 5, 2013. They waited 6 months before filing the report.

majicbar
01-08-2013, 02:04 PM
"Correct me if I am wrong... this was a single frame from a video?"

Exactly, this was from a video camera set up to catch those who were thought to be "stealing" oil from the location. In the link provided in an earlier post, discussion of what had been seen indicated that the "UFO" rose before disappearing from view, but the video was never posted.

(See posting by ProblemChild, #9, "Think this is the first postibg on the net:"
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/pictu...camera-282404/)


Given that the poster's image was black and white and that now a color version has been posted that should indicate that there has been additional contact made with someone by the poster, but that contact is not being shared, nor are any additional frames, nor the complete video been posted to date.

Perhaps there was no stealing of oil but perhaps the "UFO" caused the equipment to shut down and the "loss' of oil was only presumptive as there was no record of oil being pumped. If "UFO"s can stop automobile engines, they might also stop oil pumps too.

ProblemChild
01-08-2013, 02:26 PM
Think this is the first postibg on the net:
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/pictures-videos-64/ufo-caught-surveillance-camera-282404/

OP says later in the thread that it lifted off. Still looks like a trailer of some sort with the wheels/xles obscured by the middle light.

The thread above was started by user rever3nce on 10th of July 2012. Five days after it alledgedly happened.

"So my co-workers father has an oil rig out in Cotulla, TX; and has surveillance cameras set up throughout the perimeter and are also motion sensitive and will capture a photo if anything sets it off. Well this is what it snapped a picture of and I still can't find an explanation of what it is. What do ya'll think? "

He only ever posts the one video frame in black and white. He says that he will try to get more info and says that his co-worker has video and that the object moves vertically (no evidence of this is posted)

Further on in the thread he says that the co-workers father's company deletes the video to avoid any publicity. No names no packdrill.

I think the colour version comes from ATS where someone attempted to enhance the image.

I don't know who filed with MUFON.

Hope that clears thing up.

Lee
01-08-2013, 07:32 PM
Correct me if I am wrong... this was a single frame from a video?

If so, JPEGsnoop will not be of any value. We really need to see the video (if this is the case). My concern is we are being shown what the author wants us to see. A single frame from a video at night (in relative darkness) will tend to blur any moving object (depending on shutter speed) into something that appears very strange.
Of course, you're right. Thanks for pointing that out.


The event happened on July 5, 2012. The owners of the camera filed a report with MUFON on January 5, 2013. They waited 6 months before filing the report.
Thanks to you too, Lily! I misread the article... :p

Lee
01-08-2013, 07:35 PM
The thread above was started by user rever3nce on 10th of July 2012. Five days after it alledgedly happened.

"So my co-workers father has an oil rig out in Cotulla, TX; and has surveillance cameras set up throughout the perimeter and are also motion sensitive and will capture a photo if anything sets it off. Well this is what it snapped a picture of and I still can't find an explanation of what it is. What do ya'll think? "

He only ever posts the one video frame in black and white. He says that he will try to get more info and says that his co-worker has video and that the object moves vertically (no evidence of this is posted)

Further on in the thread he says that the co-workers father's company deletes the video to avoid any publicity. No names no packdrill.

I think the colour version comes from ATS where someone attempted to enhance the image.

I don't know who filed with MUFON.

Hope that clears thing up.
Nice job tracking down the original report, PC!

It's interesting to note that there were other UFO reports (and video) from the same area and timeframe. In my mind this slightly increases the possiblity that the security camera image shows something unusual.

Unfortuantely, given that the original thread died and no further images were forthcoming, and unless the person who recently reported to MUFON has anything extra, I doubt we will get any clear resolution to this case.

Still, those other reports make you wonder... Thanks for the feedback everybody! :cool:

Elevenaugust
01-08-2013, 11:42 PM
Marvin got it right, IMO

Since we know nothing about the camera model, it could very well be a classic case of long exposure effect.

I'm fairly confident that everyone remember the infamous "Popocatépetl Volcano" case that happened few month ago:

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8247/ufoenteringpopocatpetlv.jpg

No, it wasn't a "giant cigar shaped UFO that flied into a volcano", but just a meteor shoot with a special surveillance camcorder that took 1s. shoots at a high light sensitivity.

Here's the comparative view of the volcano with the two pictures taken at the same time with two different cameras:

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/8793/fireball1.png

This effect is particularly spectacular with still photos:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/580/longexposure8550x366.jpg

Source (http://www.fubiz.net/2011/05/26/long-exposure/)

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9573/ufoy.png

Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ben5000/298290206/)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9953/longexpo2.jpg

Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gtmeyers/2208072512/#sizes/o/)

The last one is just an helicopter flying over the coast with its searchlight on, taken with a 10s. exposure.

Elevenaugust
01-08-2013, 11:43 PM
Here's how it works:

What our eyes see:
http://imageshack.us/a/img594/9629/longaexposicao3english.jpg

What the camera sees, with a long exposure:
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/8089/longaexposicao2english.jpg

So, for OP's photo, it could also be the case, with one or several trucks or car that slightly moved during the whole shoot exposure.
Some will said: "What we see don't match at all the shape of a truck"...

My answer then is quite simple:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1279/longexpo7.png

Does this looks like a helicopter?

No, and yet it is one! :)

Worth a look: Long Exposure Photography: 15 Stunning Examples (http://digital-photography-school.com/long-exposure-photography)

Lee
01-09-2013, 09:59 PM
Thanks to both 11a and marvin for your expertise and input, it's always appreciated! :cool:

I understand what you are both saying and wouldn't rule out a conventional explanation, such as a moving trailer, for this image under any circumstances. I was really hoping to see video footage or at least a series of image to help get a better understanding of what we are seeing here. Doesn't look like that is going to happen now, but I live in hope.

One thing I do notice is that the examples posted by both of you are extreme example of long exposure image distortion, what we see here obviously involves much less movement (if that's what we are looking at) as the three points of light are only slightly elongated. I was hoping to pin down the location via Google maps to see if there was any evidence of conventional object near the camera, but haven't had any look so far.

Telhuine
01-09-2013, 11:03 PM
Hi all. First post here...

I agree that it is definitely unidentified! Not sure if it is flying or not. Almost looks like it is hovering, but could be ground-based as well. Perhaps it is an effect of the lens, but it seems that even with a relatively short exposure, there is a bend to the light. The right side of the illuminations seem to be higher. Perhaps due to it rolling across a high point. The shadow underneath seems to match up with the other elements. It seems likely that the object is a part of the original image and not 'shopped in.

If it continues to be determined as both an unidentified and a flying object piloted by an extraterrestrial, I must commend them on their courtesy in obeying our FAA flight regs by having bright lights affixed to their craft.

Lee
01-09-2013, 11:25 PM
Welcome to the forum, Telhuine!

Interesting observations. Many people comment on the apparent irony of UFOs carrying lights, it is possible that what we see are not lights as such, but instead a by product of the propulsion system in the form of plasma.

majicbar
01-10-2013, 12:25 AM
I've been using Google Earth to explore the area. It has a complex economic development with ranching, well development and areas of sand pits, probably a source for fracking sands. The well areas are to the west over a wide range. The area was photographed crudely with the most current from 1995, so it won't be of much help if the well area in the image area in question is newer that that. The well areas seem to have clearings for hydrophones to locate other drilling areas but there do not seem to be other well heads, so overall oil in this areas is somewhat spotty.

newyorklily
01-13-2013, 08:07 PM
Here is a new article on the sighting. http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Observers-think-UFOs-hovered-above-the-Eagle-Ford-4189853.php#photo-4023876

CasperParks
01-13-2013, 09:37 PM
There is a lack of size regarding the UFO as compared to surrounding things.

majicbar
01-13-2013, 10:37 PM
Here is a new article on the sighting. http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Observers-think-UFOs-hovered-above-the-Eagle-Ford-4189853.php#photo-4023876

In the article:

"That photo, with a July 5 time stamp, already has passed two authenticity tests, says Charles Stansburge, a veteran MUFON investigator.

“If it's a prank,” Stansburge said, “someone spent a lot of money to stage it. It's not a doctored photo. It's a 60-foot-diameter saucer that's hovering.”


Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Of-black-gold-and-little-green-men-4189853.php#ixzz2HtixyLN8

CasperParks
01-13-2013, 10:51 PM
In the article:

"That photo, with a July 5 time stamp, already has passed two authenticity tests, says Charles Stansburge, a veteran MUFON investigator.

“If it's a prank,” Stansburge said, “someone spent a lot of money to stage it. It's not a doctored photo. It's a 60-foot-diameter saucer that's hovering.”


Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Of-black-gold-and-little-green-men-4189853.php#ixzz2HtixyLN8

Any idea as to its height?

norenrad
01-14-2013, 12:36 AM
I think it's a platform or trailer. The glow is either lights or reflective tape. This object is too thin to carry anything inside of it.

newyorklily
01-14-2013, 01:42 AM
I think it's a platform or trailer. The glow is either lights or reflective tape. This object is too thin to carry anything inside of it.

I'm still undecided about this case but, I wouldn't rule something out because an object seems too thin. We don't know what they are using it for or how the beings can manipulate time and space. Many of the reports of Grays say that their necks and bodies are too thin to hold up their big heads.

majicbar
01-14-2013, 03:48 AM
I think it's a platform or trailer. The glow is either lights or reflective tape. This object is too thin to carry anything inside of it.

And how thin is your phone? We don't know the purpose of this UFO, so it's dimensions are meaningless, it is only saying that it is not that it is not thick enough to be one we would expect that might be carrying aliens. Judging by the pipe next to the tanks, I'd expect the thing to be 18 to 24 inches thick, or so. That is thin in my book.

CasperParks
01-14-2013, 05:08 AM
And how thin is your phone? We don't know the purpose of this UFO, so it's dimensions are meaningless, it is only saying that it is not that it is not thick enough to be one we would expect that might be carrying aliens. Judging by the pipe next to the tanks, I'd expect the thing to be 18 to 24 inches thick, or so. That is thin in my book.

Unless miss understanding a second photo, per the link to images at the website, they show a pair of alledged grey type aliens on top of a semi-trailer. Photo of the UFO appears to lack enough height for passangers, perhaps if laying flat they could fit inside of it. It could be a drone or something else of that nature.

majicbar
01-14-2013, 07:07 AM
"Unless miss understanding a second photo, per the link to images at the website, they show a pair of alleged grey type aliens on top of a semi-trailer."

I searched all the links posted in this thread and I can find no such photo, do you have the link to such a photo or can you identify the site? Sounds like a disinformation effort by either hoaxer, or agent of the Government, with, or without, the additional photograph.

Dragonfire
01-14-2013, 12:44 PM
Here is the link with the two photo's. http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/...#photo-4023876

To me. those do not look like aliens on top of the trailer. I don't know what the trailers are for, but the two objects on the roof are not aliens. They look like some kind of equipment.

ProblemChild
01-14-2013, 01:08 PM
900

I think this is the picture you mean. It is not froom the same person as the "grounded UFO". It is a still from the video Lee posted on page 1 of this thread.

The light in the sky above the trailer is the focus of interest.

majicbar
01-14-2013, 04:26 PM
900

I think this is the picture you mean. It is not froom the same person as the "grounded UFO". It is a still from the video Lee posted on page 1 of this thread.

The light in the sky above the trailer is the focus of interest.

The objects above the trailer which are taken to be "aliens" would seem to be microwave reflectors on towers beyond the ends of the trailers. Follow these objects for the first 25 seconds of the video clip and you can see the trailers moving relative to these objects. The perspective says they are indeed beyond the trailers and stationary to all the other items involved as the camera is moved to the right and then back to the left.

majicbar
01-14-2013, 07:17 PM
There are lots of possible well that the ground video could have been shot at. It would help if MUFON would give some better description of the site, or at least include more pictures of the event. The clues in the articles, I-35, Eagle Ford Shale and La Salle County have lead me to these links and possible drill/well operators:

SEARCH TERM: EAGLE FORD SHALE TEXAS



http://eaglefordshale.com/maps/attachment/eagle-ford-shale-map-800x614-2/

http://eaglefordshale.com/maps/

http://eaglefordshale.com/companies/

The following is a list of active companies and lease operators in the Eagle Ford shale play:

Abraxas Petroleum
Alta Mesa Holdings
Anadarko
Apache Corp.
Aruba Petroleum
Aurora Resources
Austin Exploration (Aus-Tex Expl.)
BHP Billiton
BP
Cabot Oil & Gas
Carrizo Oil & Gas
Chaparral Energy
Chesapeake Energy
Cinco Resources
Clayton Williams Energy
Comstock Resources
ConocoPhillips – (Burlington Resources)
CNOOC (China National Offshore Oil Corporation)
Crimson Exploration
Devon Energy
Eagle Ford Oil & Gas Corp.
El Paso
Enduring Resources
Enerjex Resources
EOG Resources
Escondido Resources
Espada Operating
Exxon-XTO
Forest Oil
GAIL (Gas Authority of India Limited)
GeoResources Inc.
Goodrich Petroleum
Global Petroleum
Hess Corporation
Hilcorp Resources (Acquired by Marathon)
Hunt Oil
Jadela Oil
KNOC (Korea National Oil Corporation)
Laredo Energy
Lewis Energy Group (BP Partner)
Lonestar Resources
Lucas Energy
Magnum Hunter Resources
Marathon Oil
Marubeni Corporation (Hunt Oil Partner)
Matador Resources
Mitsui
Murphy Oil
Newfield Exploration
NFR Energy
Penn Virginia Corp
Peregrine Petroleum
PetroHawk
PetroQuest
Pioneer Natural Resources
Plains Exploration & Production
Redemption Oil & Gas
Reliance Industries
Riley Exploration
Rock Oil Company
Rosetta Resources
San Isidro Development (Acquired by Chesapeake)
Sanchez Energy
Sandstone Energy, LLC
Saxon Oil Company
Shell
SM Energy (St. Mary Land & Exploration)
Statoil
Strand Energy
Strike Energy
Swift Energy
Talisman Energy
Texon Petroleum
Tidal Petroleum
TXCO Resources (Now, Newfield & Anadarko)
Unit Corporation
U.S. Energy Corp.
Weber Energy
WEJCO E&P
ZaZa Energy
More Eagle Ford Operators
There are over 200 active operators in the 30 county area that is prospective for the Eagle Ford Shale. We have only detailed the positions of the top companies in the Eagle Ford. We also compiled a list of the largest Eagle Ford Pipeline and Midstream Companies.



SEARCH TERM: LA SALLE COUNTY TEXAS+EAGLE FORD SHALE TEXAS


http://eaglefordshale.com/counties/la-salle-county-tx/'


E&P Companies with Operations in La Salle

Cabot Oil & Gas
Carrizo Oil & Gas
Chesapeake Energy
Cheyenne Petroleum
Common Resources (Acquired by Talisman)
El Paso Corporation
EOG Resources
First Rock
Goodrich Petroleum
Lewis Petroleum (BP Partner)
Matador Resources
Murphy Oil
Petrohawk
Riley Exploration
Rosetta Resources
St Mary Land & Exploration (SM Energy)
Swift Energy
Talisman Energy
Texas American Resources
Texas International Operating
Tidal Petroleum
ZaZa Energy

Marvin
01-15-2013, 04:31 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/bakosawa/1z23vphlevel_darkL_zps2c3e8f6b.jpg


This is as much detail as I can get....

You can see the tire tracks in the foreground for size comparison.

M

lavarat
01-29-2013, 12:16 PM
The explanation that this is a car or vehicle moving by in time lapse is a completely flawed argument. I am going to prepare a massive counter argument to this super fast conclusion by Marc Antonio

lavarat
01-29-2013, 12:25 PM
http://youtu.be/ln-iU30ROfw

lavarat
01-29-2013, 09:11 PM
907

Also if this is a passing vehicle were are the tires that would also screen a blur across the screen?

Marvin
01-30-2013, 01:14 PM
The explanation that this is a car or vehicle moving by in time lapse is a completely flawed argument. I am going to prepare a massive counter argument to this super fast conclusion by Marc Antonio


Referring to:


Think this is the first postibg on the net:
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/pictures-videos-64/ufo-caught-surveillance-camera-282404/

OP says later in the thread that it lifted off. Still looks like a trailer of some sort with the wheels/xles obscured by the middle light.


From my perspective… I am not convinced (yet) what is being shown in this “photo” is not mundane (or possibly a hoax). “rever3nce” (the original poster of the photo… who got it from a buddy) said they would post more photos (supposedly, showing the object moving vertically). According to “rever3mce,” they “got rid of” all photos/video. If the owner of the original photos/video truly wanted to know what the object is, then one would think they would have released the material they have.

It appears there are no original materials to analyze… therefore there's no real way to confirm any authenticity. Without the originals… we are only left with speculation. Unfortunately, the “whole story” is typical of past hoaxes.


M