UFO in the Radar Readings of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

[Doc]

Via Robert Morningstar:

Date: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Subject: UFO in the Radar Readings of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

By now, everybody has heard about
how two passengers using European
passports, stolen from tourists in
Thailand suggest that the greatest
likelihood for the disappearance of
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 from
the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur
to Beijing, China and that these two
people using these stolen passports
were suicide bombers.

Family and friends awaiting their loved
ones at Beijing International Airport
complain that they were "treated like
dogs" by Malaysia Airlines, when they
were not informed of any problems
with the flight until several hours after
it was supposed to have landed.

Seeing the radar playback of the
moments leading up to the plane's
disappearance, one may forgive
Malaysia Airlines for not being more
forthcoming, in this case - because the
radar playback is not only baffling, it
shows two distinct anomalies, as pointed
out by intrepid citizen-reporter and
YouTube popstar, DAHBOO7.

The radar playback depicts dozens of
planes in flight over the region at the
time. The first peculiarity is seen in the
lower left of the screen. A round object
appears in the vicinity of Flight 370 (and
amid several others), which the radar
does not automatically "read" as airplane.

Suddenly, this round object takes the
form of a "plane" on the radar screen
and it accelerates at a rate of speed that
must be at least five times the speed of
the surrounding planes, heading eastward,
over the South China Sea. Then, just as
suddenly - the object stops and appears
to hover in place.

During this same time, there is some
evidence that shortly after crossing the
Malaysian Peninsula, Flight 370 was in
trouble. The radar shows that the plane
took three sharp turns: right, left, right
at an altitude of 35,000 feet and at a
speed of 473 knots - just before the
radar readings instantly go from 35,000
feet to 0, with the plane still traveling at
that speed for a few moments more, at
0 feet altitude before it vanishes from
the screen. As of this writing, this plane
remains missing, even though the sea is
relatively shallow where it disappeared.

As for the other object described here, it
disappears, as well. There have been no
reports about this object - or plane, or what
have you; whether it was a commercial
airliner, like the many others in flight over
the region during the final moments preceding
the disappearance of Flight 370 - but the
object in question certainly didn't behave like
a commercial airliner.

Regardless of whether this mystery object had
anything to do with the demise of of Flight 370
- what IS evident is that the radar readings
shown in this clip captured signals from what
for now, can only be termed a UFO.


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[majicbar]

http://youtu.be/5JpbZZKqxy0 While interesting, the dude oversells what this really is. This is a program service to sell to users "radar" information from various areas of the World. This is not real radar. This is an interpolated map service from radar data. What the guy does not point out to the viewer is that the plane is approaching the limits of what is possible from a land based radar. The plane eventually will exceed the radar's event horizon and drop off, which is what it does. Some of the anomalies which are shown are software induced artifacts due to limited information from the original source. Others are drawn in by default given the limitations of the software. What is pointed out as a "UFO" might be an object of interest, or not. These map programs if they are any good require the plane's IFF from the transponder to be a real data point to be mapped. If this mapping program does not use IFF data, which is hard to imagine, I do not know how the "fast walker, UFO" would have been mapped. If it did have IFF data, perhaps the "UFOs" have learned to mimic our radio data to avoid being tracked so easily by radar. I am sure that a more complete analysis will be forthcoming from official sources. If the "fast walker, UFO" is real though they might well reconstruct the data set to first delete it from the record.

[Doc]

Via Victor's List tonight:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html

Why Are The Cellphones of Missing Malaysian Airlines Passengers Still Ringing?! Family Members Claim That Loved Ones Smartphones Are Still Active!

Cellphones and smartphones of the missing aboard
Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 are still ringing
according to reports
The unsettling news has raised the frustration of
relatives who have received no information on their
missing friends and relatives
This comes as reports from the BBC claim that the
two men who used stolen passports were Iranian
in origin
Investigators in Malaysia are voicing skepticism that
the airliner that disappeared early Saturday with 239
people on board was the target of an attack
The fate of the Malaysian airliner that vanished about
an hour into a flight to Beijing remained a mystery, as
a massive air and sea search, now in its third day,
failed to turn up any trace of the Boeing 777

[Doc]

The missing plane drama continues:

http://www.fastcompany.com/3027462/fast-feed/with-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-still-missing-conspiracy-theories-flood-the-inte (http://www.fastcompany.com/3027462/fast-feed/with-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-still-missing-conspiracy-theories-flood-the-inte)

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WHERE IN THE WORLD IS MALAYSIA AIRLINES FLIGHT 370? CONSPIRACY THEORISTS TAKE TO THE INTERNET

ON SATURDAY A BOEING 777 DISAPPEARED OVER THE SOUTH CHINA SEA WITHOUT A TRACE. WE STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT IS. CONSPIRACY THEORISTS, START YOUR BROWSERS.


BY CHRIS GAYOMALI (http://www.fastcompany.com/user/chris-gayomali)

66 COMMENTS (http://www.fastcompany.com/3027462/fast-feed/with-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-still-missing-conspiracy-theories-flood-the-inte#comments)
EMAIL (http://www.fastcompany.com/3027462/fast-feed/with-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-still-missing-conspiracy-theories-flood-the-inte#)

Details concerning the sudden, Saturday disappearance of Malaysian
Airlines flight 370 continue to trickle in. Azharuddin Abdul Rahman (http://www.fastcompany.com/person/abdul-rahman),
the head of Malaysia's Civil Aviation Authority, said the missing Boeing (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Boeing%20777&tag=fastcomp08-20)
777 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Boeing%20777&tag=fastcomp08-20) carrying 227 passengers presents (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10687223/Malaysia-Airlines-live-Unprecedented-mystery-of-disappearing-jet-says-civil-aviation-chief.html) an "unprecedented mystery."

Here's what we do KNOW: The flight disappeared on Friday night/Saturday morning en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304732804579427991198487418). The plane was at cruising
altitude (35,000 feet) and weather was more or less clear. Air traffic controllers
in Vietnam say contact with the crew disappeared about 120 nautical miles
east of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu, and radar signals suggest the plane may have turned around before losing contact.
(More at the link above)

[Redbone]

[QUOTE=Doc;30801]Via Victor's List tonight:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html

Why Are The Cellphones of Missing Malaysian Airlines Passengers Still Ringing?! Family Members Claim That Loved Ones Smartphones Are Still Active!
[LIST]
Cellphones and smartphones of the missing aboard
Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 are still ringing


Makes me think about the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." All the ships and aircraft that went mssing in the Bermuda Triangle turn up in the desert, in perfect working order. Then later when contact is made, all the missing persons are accounted for and none had aged a day.:cool:

Could this have something to do with the "Big annoucement" on March 15th? :confused:

Can't help but wonder. :biggrin2:

[Pandora'sParadox]

[QUOTE=Doc;30801]Via Victor's List tonight:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html

Why Are The Cellphones of Missing Malaysian Airlines Passengers Still Ringing?! Family Members Claim That Loved Ones Smartphones Are Still Active!
[LIST]
Cellphones and smartphones of the missing aboard
Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 are still ringing


Makes me think about the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." All the ships and aircraft that went mssing in the Bermuda Triangle turn up in the desert, in perfect working order. Then later when contact is made, all the missing persons are accounted for and none had aged a day.:cool:

Could this have something to do with the "Big annoucement" on March 15th? :confused:

Can't help but wonder. :biggrin2:

You took the thought, right out of my head. :bleh:

[majicbar]

If cellphones are ringing then one should be able to track the cell tower that is connecting to that phone. If true the location of the plane's wreakage should be easy to find.

[epo333]

If cellphones are ringing then one should be able to track the cell tower that is connecting to that phone. If true the location of the plane's wreakage should be easy to find.

"If true" is the key words there...

Of course they'll ring if they default to voice mail...?

[newyorklily]

This gets more and more mysterious.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-timeline/

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[Longeyes]

If cellphones are ringing then one should be able to track the cell tower that is connecting to that phone. If true the location of the plane's wreakage should be easy to find.

Agreed I very much doubt everybody's phones were turned off. If they have the mobile numbers of passengers...

[Marvin]

For what it’s worth and its only speculation on my part... but based on the limited data, I think the flight was hijacked and the flight vector was changed after takeoff (as seen on military radar). The flight was ordered to fly low (under the radar) to avoid detection….


M

[Redbone]

For what it’s worth and its only speculation on my part... but based on the limited data, I think the flight was hijacked and the flight vector was changed after takeoff (as seen on military radar). The flight was ordered to fly low (under the radar) to avoid detection….


M


I too, have been thinking that maybe this Airliner was highjacked for some yet unknown purpose. The fact that it changed course suddenly, dropped in altitude and then disappeared makes me think it could be sitting on some little used airstrip. Apparently the transponder was turned off and the Black Boxes emergencey beckon has not been activated. The question then has to be asked, for what purpose? Most of the passengers where Chinese, so what is the end game? This keeps getting stranger and stranger.

[Pandora'sParadox]

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-defends-search-missing-jet-120636051.html?vp=1

Yahoo news today.

[majicbar]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/12/missing-malaysia-airlines-satellite-images_n_4951966.html

Wreckage may have been spotted in Chinese satellite imagery from near where the plane first dropped off the radar. This could be a misleading sighting but then again the plane might be 600 feet below this location. It took a long time to find the Air France plane in the Atlantic, this might be an easier look when we get out there and use sophisticated sonar to listen for the pinging from the black boxes.

[majicbar]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/12/missing-malaysia-airlines-satellite-images_n_4951966.html

Wreckage may have been spotted in Chinese satellite imagery from near where the plane first dropped off the radar. This could be a misleading sighting but then again the plane might be 600 feet below this location. It took a long time to find the Air France plane in the Atlantic, this might be an easier look when we get out there and use sophisticated sonar to listen for the pinging from the black boxes.Now it is being reported that Rolls Royce was the manufacture of the plane's engines and it had an automated system to report engine performance. In this case it reported engine operations for around four hours past when the plane was last heard from or seen on radar. So where did the plane fly? The story becomes stranger still.

[newyorklily]

This is a good update.

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1718633


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[Redbone]

If you were an Alien race that wanted to make itself known to the people of Earth, how would you go about it?

Maybe I would make a large aircraft full of earthlings dissappear for days without a trace. Do this in the most populated part of the planet and involve all the worlds major powers so you get maximum exposure. Keep them quessing for days and then bring the whole episode to such a dramatic and undeniable conclusion, even the most controlled media outlets cannot avoid the truth!

Humm, you know that just might work. :cool:

[CasperParks]

Now it is being reported that Rolls Royce was the manufacture of the plane's engines and it had an automated system to report engine performance. In this case it reported engine operations for around four hours past when the plane was last heard from or seen on radar. So where did the plane fly? The story becomes stranger still.

It was reported people's cell phones continued working in that time frame, ring but no answers.

[Pandora'sParadox]

I'm sorry, but this stinks of slight "cover-up". o_0

This doesn't happen anymore...so, either something mega is going on...or we as a unified group of nations can't find 200+ people with (most likely) iphones (tracking equipment built inside) and are not trying at all. Someone pulled a straight out of Ocean's Eleven thievery.

If so, Bravo. :confused:

[newyorklily]

LOL! I just saw a cool picture on Facebook
It was a picture of a flying saucer depositing the Malaysia Airlines plane on the White House lawn. The caption said, "They're going to have to tell them about us now."

I thought it was amusing. :)

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[Pandora'sParadox]

LOL! I just saw a cool picture on Facebook
It was a picture of a flying saucer depositing the Malaysia Airlines plane on the White House lawn. The caption said, "They're going to have to tell them about us now."

I thought it was amusing. :)

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~White House Press Release.~

"The plane got tangled...in a....ahhh...weather balloon/training accident with swamp gasses reflecting the light from Venus. We are just glad they are back." :nono:

[Pandora'sParadox]

Interesting points, this website makes.

http://nyufo.bravesites.com/

[Doc]

~White House Press Release.~

"The plane got tangled...in a....ahhh...weather balloon/training accident with swamp gasses reflecting the light from Venus. We are just glad they are back." :nono:

They'd have some jackass out there in front of the White House saying that with a straight face and every media outlet would repeat until the end of recorded time. :rolleyes:

[ProblemChild]

FAA warned of cracking and corrosion problem on Boeing 777.

"RIN
2120
-
AA64
Airworthiness Directives; The Boeing Company Airplanes
AGENCY:
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), DOT.
ACTION:
Final rule.
––––––––––––––––†“––––––––––––––––⠀“
SUMMARY:
We are adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) for certain
The Boeing Company
Model 777 airplanes. This AD was prompted by a
report of cracking in the fuselage skin underneath
the satellite
communication (SATCOM) antenna a
dapter. This AD requires repetitive
inspections of
the visible fuselage skin and doubler if installed, for
cracking, corrosion, and any indication of
contact of a certain
fastener to a bonding jumper, and repair if necessary. We are issuing
this AD
to
detect and correct cracking and corrosion in the fuselage
skin, which could lead to rapid
decompression and
loss of structural integrity of the airplane.
DATES:
This AD is effective April 9, 2014.
The Director of the Fede
ral Register approved the incorporation by
reference of a certain
publication listed in this AD as of April 9,
2014"

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgad.nsf/0/d91639a24674ca8f86257c920050edf7/$FILE/2014-05-03.pdfhttp://

[Longeyes]

~White House Press Release.~

"The plane got tangled...in a....ahhh...weather balloon/training accident with swamp gasses reflecting the light from Venus. We are just glad they are back." :nono:

Very funny pandora's paradox :)

Seems the plane may have been hijacked after all

Reuters just got an exclusive with 3 unidentified people working on case

Exclusive - Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane flown deliberately toward Andamans - sources

Sorry no link but a quick search will find it. Appears someone knew that if they turned off the transponder they would drop off civilian radar. Malaysian military shows a possible return heading towards Andaman Islands a standard waypoint for planes flying to Europe.

[Dragonfire]

KUALA LUMPUR, March 14 (Reuters) - An investigation into the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jetliner is focusing more on a suspicion of foul play, as evidence suggests it was diverted hundreds of miles off course, sources familiar with the Malaysian probe said.

Full Story Here: http://news.msn.com/world/exclusive-radar-data-suggests-missing-malaysia-plane-deliberately-flown-way-off-course-sources

[Doc]

Via Victor's List:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579955/US-officials-convinced-two-separate-communications-systems-Malaysian-jet-DELIBERATELY-shut-14-minutes-apart-emerges-aircraft-pinging-FIVE-hours-vanished-flying.html

>:o
Officials 'Convinced' 2 Communications Systems on Missing Jet Were DELIBERATELY Shut Off 14-Minutes Apart as it Emerges Aircraft DID Keep 'Pinging' For HOURS After Vanishing at 35,000 ft! Enduring Mystery: Has Flight MH370 Landed on a Remote Deserted Island in The Indian Ocean?!

Malaysian Airways flight MH370 went missing on Saturday morning
The plane, carrying 239 people, was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing
Its last known position was above the South China Sea an hour into flying
U.S. official said 2 separate communication systems were shut down
"DELIBERATELY"
They reveals that signals were sent to a satellite from it later on
Comes amid huge international search effort involving 10 countries
The oceans to the east and west of Malaysia are being searched
Today a picture emerged of the plane flying over Poland in February


By James Rush (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=James+Rush) and James Nye (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=James+Nye) and Richard Shears (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Richard+Shears) and Kieran Corcoran (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Kieran+Corcoran), Daily Mail Online,
PUBLISHED: UPDATED: 22:08 EST, Friday 14 March 2014
U.S. officials believe that two communications systems aboard Malaysian Airlines flight
370 were shut down separately, 14 minutes apart -- which indicates the plane did not come
down because of a sudden catastrophic failure.
The data reporting system was shut down at 1.07 am and the transponder was turned off at
1.21 a.m. just after the the pilot signed off to Malaysian air traffic controllers with "All right,
good night," and before the Boeing 777 apparently changed course and turned west. According
to investigators this indicated that the switch-off could have been a deliberate act and officials
told ABC News that the two communications devices were "systematically shut down."

[Pandora'sParadox]

Via Victor's List:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579955/US-officials-convinced-two-separate-communications-systems-Malaysian-jet-DELIBERATELY-shut-14-minutes-apart-emerges-aircraft-pinging-FIVE-hours-vanished-flying.html

>:o
Officials 'Convinced' 2 Communications Systems on Missing Jet Were DELIBERATELY Shut Off 14-Minutes Apart as it Emerges Aircraft DID Keep 'Pinging' For HOURS After Vanishing at 35,000 ft! Enduring Mystery: Has Flight MH370 Landed on a Remote Deserted Island in The Indian Ocean?!

Malaysian Airways flight MH370 went missing on Saturday morning
The plane, carrying 239 people, was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing
Its last known position was above the South China Sea an hour into flying
U.S. official said 2 separate communication systems were shut down
"DELIBERATELY"
They reveals that signals were sent to a satellite from it later on
Comes amid huge international search effort involving 10 countries
The oceans to the east and west of Malaysia are being searched
Today a picture emerged of the plane flying over Poland in February


By James Rush (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=James+Rush) and James Nye (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=James+Nye) and Richard Shears (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Richard+Shears) and Kieran Corcoran (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Kieran+Corcoran), Daily Mail Online,
PUBLISHED: UPDATED: 22:08 EST, Friday 14 March 2014
U.S. officials believe that two communications systems aboard Malaysian Airlines flight
370 were shut down separately, 14 minutes apart -- which indicates the plane did not come
down because of a sudden catastrophic failure.
The data reporting system was shut down at 1.07 am and the transponder was turned off at
1.21 a.m. just after the the pilot signed off to Malaysian air traffic controllers with "All right,
good night," and before the Boeing 777 apparently changed course and turned west. According
to investigators this indicated that the switch-off could have been a deliberate act and officials
told ABC News that the two communications devices were "systematically shut down."

Thanks for all the great links.


The aroma...is pungent! Like I said before, this stinks to high heaven with "cover-up". When I looked up the chain of events, and actions, I honestly thought "we" did it...
For someone with the knowledge and skill, to switch off the transponders in that manner, know where/how to disable the black-box on board, and instruct (or kidnap) the pilot to fly "under radar".

My biggest question, how do you keep all those people from communicating with their family?
1. Crashed/Dead
2. Underground bunker preventing phone signal
3. They are no longer within this dimensional-plane.
4. One hellova hoax.

Doc's link has a little flight map towards the bottom, outright saying that there military tracked unidentified crafts. WTF?
Then goes down to give the estimated radius of the plane, given its fuel. (or that's how it appears to me) so...
Why haven't we heard ANYTHING....anything at all?
We were able to dive down into the ocean and recover TWA 800's blackbox...

It smells of secrecy and shenanigans all up in here. :lmao:


:confused:

[majicbar]

Thanks for all the great links.


The aroma...is pungent! Like I said before, this stinks to high heaven with "cover-up". When I looked up the chain of events, and actions, I honestly thought "we" did it...
For someone with the knowledge and skill, to switch off the transponders in that manner, know where/how to disable the black-box on board, and instruct (or kidnap) the pilot to fly "under radar".

My biggest question, how do you keep all those people from communicating with their family?
1. Crashed/Dead
2. Underground bunker preventing phone signal
3. They are no longer within this dimensional-plane.
4. One hellova hoax.

Doc's link has a little flight map towards the bottom, outright saying that there military tracked unidentified crafts. WTF?
Then goes down to give the estimated radius of the plane, given its fuel. (or that's how it appears to me) so...
Why haven't we heard ANYTHING....anything at all?
We were able to dive down into the ocean and recover TWA 800's blackbox...

It smells of secrecy and shenanigans all up in here. :lmao:


:confused:
The range is low because the plane would need to fly low some for some time to minimize it's return signiture when close to land radars, later it could fly higher when out to sea. Flying low increases aerodynamic drag which causes increased fuel consumption. The military radars do a better job seeing through ground clutter and can thus see low flying targets, which is where the later radar returns were seen.

[newyorklily]

I don't think it is in the water. I think the plane is on an island somewhere within its range. For some reason, the flashback scenes from the TV show "Arrow" keeps coming to mind. :(

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[Pandora'sParadox]

Terrible thing is...we have satellites...and I know the NSA can use them whenever they hell they want...

Maybe it'll have something to do with the "Farsight" announcement tomorrow. o_O

I feel like a kid on the night before x-mas. LoL

[majicbar]

Terrible thing is...we have satellites...and I know the NSA can use them whenever they hell they want...

Maybe it'll have something to do with the "Farsight" announcement tomorrow. o_O

I feel like a kid on the night before x-mas. LoL
Not only we have satellites but the NSA can tap into communications from foreign and commercial communications when possible. It can be the capabilities of the NSA are overstated at times, we should not overestimate what they can really do in particular incidents. It is like photo reconnisance where an asset can photograph a licence plate, it can only do so by focusing in on a small portion at a time, it cannot at the same time take a synoptic picture of an entire city much less a state or country.There is a direct tradeoff between scale and detail.

[Doc]

With the passage of a few days the Conspiracy Theories of Tuesday and Wednesday don't seem so crazy anymore. This latest from the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/missing-malaysian-plane-may-have-flown-up-to-four-hours-us-officials-say/2014/03/14/62c9f05c-ab64-11e3-af5f-4c56b834c4bf_story.html?wpisrc=nl_eve

By Chico Harlan (http://www.washingtonpost.com/chico-harlan/2011/02/28/ABQsisM_page.html), Ashley Halsey III (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ashley-halsey-iii/2011/05/26/AGriQzBH_page.html) and Scott Wilson (http://www.washingtonpost.com/scott-wilson/2011/03/02/ABt5vmP_page.html), Updated: Friday, March 14, 12:24 PM
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — A search for a missing Malaysian airliner (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/malaysian-air-scale/?hpid=z2)with 239 people on board is getting a potential boost from a satellite communications company, which announced Friday that it had registered signals from the plane (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/03/14/heres-how-we-know-mh-370-kept-flying-for-hours/?hpid=z1) after it took off from the Malaysian capital six days ago. With the mystery of the plane’s disappearance (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/an-unprecedented-missing-aircraft-mystery/2014/03/10/6075a4ee-a8c2-11e3-8599-ce7295b6851c_graphic.html) continuing to baffle and frustrate (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/lost-the-mysterious-baffling-disappearance-of-malaysia-flight-370/2014/03/11/1b7e390e-a94f-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html?tid=ts_carousel) a growing corps of search teams, investigators and outside aviation experts, inquiries increasingly are focusing on the prospect of foul play.
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New twist in the hunt for missing plane

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The search for the missing Malaysian jetliner expanded after U.S. officials said it emitted signals to satellites for hours after its last contact with air traffic control nearly a week ago.








“The facts are all over the place,” a U.S. official told The Washington Post. “It’s looking less and less like an accident. It’s looking more like a criminal event.” The official asked not to be identified because he is not authorized to speak publicly.

(Much more at the link to read and discuss here)

[Doc]

Robert Morningstar chips in:

I think we should be looking for it on Hainan Island...The Chinese version of Langley & Area 51
The mountain on Hainan has been hollowed out
like in James Bond movie "Moonraker".
Secret submarine base and runways/hangers inside the mountain.

M*

[Pandora'sParadox]

I'm sorry, but this stinks of slight "cover-up". o_0

This doesn't happen anymore...so, either something mega is going on...or we as a unified group of nations can't find 200+ people with (most likely) iphones (tracking equipment built inside) and are not trying at all. Someone pulled a straight out of Ocean's Eleven thievery.

If so, Bravo. :confused:



:das "Come Watson, the game is a-foot."

[epo333]

...and then there is this...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUgWhUkkzr4


I'll reserve comment for now, but agree "the game is a foot" :D

[Dragonfire]

New Theory(?):

Then there's the theory that maybe Flight 370 landed in a remote Indian Ocean island chain.

The suggestion -- and it's only that at this point -- is based on analysis of radar data revealed Friday by Reuters suggesting that the plane wasn't just blindly flying northwest from Malaysia. Reuters, citing unidentified sources familiar with the investigation, reported that whoever was piloting the vanished jet was following navigational waypoints that would have taken the plane over the Andaman Islands.

The radar data don't show the plane over the Andaman Islands, but only on a known route that would take it there, Reuters cited its sources as saying.

The movie-plot theory seems more complicated and unlikely than one in which the plane -- its flight crew perhaps incapacitated -- simply flew on until it ran out of fuel or faced some other problem. But it's one that law enforcement has to check out, former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom said.

Timeline of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Aviation experts say it's possible, if highly unlikely, that someone could have hijacked and landed the giant Boeing 777 undetected.

The international airport in Port Blair, the regional capital of the Andaman and Nicobar islands, has a runway that is long enough to accommodate a 777, according to publicly available data.

But the region is highly militarized because of its strategic importance to India, Indian officials with knowledge of the operation tell CNN, making it an unlikely target for pirates trying to sneak in an enormous airplane with a wingspan of more than 200 feet.

Denis Giles, editor of the Andaman Chronicle newspaper, says there's just nowhere to land such a big plane in his archipelago without attracting notice.

"There is no chance, no such chance, that any aircraft of this size can come towards Andaman and Nicobar Islands and land," he said.

The Malaysian government said Friday that it can't confirm the report.

And a senior U.S. official offered a conflicting account Thursday, telling CNN that "there is probably a significant likelihood" the plane is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

Among the things being considered is whether lithium batteries in the cargo hold, which have been blamed in previous crashes, played a role in the disappearance, according to U.S. officials briefed on the latest developments in the investigation. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release details to the media.

If the batteries being carried on the plane caused a fire, it still doesn't fully explain other anomalies with Flight 370, the officials say.

Full Story at: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html

[Pandora'sParadox]

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysian-leader-planes-disappearance-deliberate-064752321.html

"Deliberate"

[Doc]

The consensus today is trending toward theories of premeditated foul play and hijacking and away from accident and catastrophy. Conspiracy theories going mainstream.

[Doc]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581488/It-WAS-hijacked-Malaysian-official-says-CONCLUSIVE-jet-carrying-239-hijacked-35-000-ft-individual-group-significant-flying-experience.html

Satellite data shows hijacked MH370 was last seen flying towards Pakistan OR Indian Ocean as investigators search pilots' luxury homes and reveal one had home-made flight simulator

Officials confirmed missing plane was hijacked by one or several people

Could have turned off communication system and steered it off-course
Now believed plane could have flown for another seven hours

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak refused to confirm the reports

Investigators working to establish motive and where plane was taken

Both captain and co-pilot are now said to be under investigation

Police raided the pair's luxury homes in upmarket Kuala Lumpur suburb


By Wills Robinson (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Wills+Robinson) and Richard Shears (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Richard++Shears) and Kieran Corcoran (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Kieran+Corcoran)
PUBLISHED: 23:29 EST, 14 March 2014 | UPDATED: 15:32 EST, 15 March 2014


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581488/It-WAS-hijacked-Malaysian-official-says-CONCLUSIVE-jet-carrying-239-hijacked-35-000-ft-individual-group-significant-flying-experience.html#ixzz2w5K35ItR

[epo333]

Here is another possibility...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1753.htm

[Garuda]

Here is another possibility...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1753.htm

"What does it mean?" is run by 'Sorcha Faal' which is a known disinformation agent.

[Garuda]

...and then there is this...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUgWhUkkzr4


I'll reserve comment for now, but agree "the game is a foot" :D

This reminds me of the famous Einstein quote: 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.'

They are giving The Onion a run for its money...

[epo333]

So I see!

Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of "reports" published at WhatDoesItMean.com, whose work is of such quality that even other conspiracy nutters don't think much of it. There is a high chance that "Sorcha Faal" is actually David Booth, the owner/operator of the website, or someone collaborating with him.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal

[Pandora'sParadox]

So I see!

Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of "reports" published at WhatDoesItMean.com, whose work is of such quality that even other conspiracy nutters don't think much of it. There is a high chance that "Sorcha Faal" is actually David Booth, the owner/operator of the website, or someone collaborating with him.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal



'It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.'

Sherlock Holmes Quote

-A Scandal in Bohemia

:das

The plot thickens...

[southerncross]

Why does it take so long for these things to be uncovered? Apparently the elder pilot had very strong political leanings.
In the States the pilots would have been the first to be suspected and investigated. They also would have had background checks before being pilots in the first place.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/16/missing-mh370-daily-mail-pilot-political-fanatic/

I have thought from the first that one of them was radicalized. Seems so.
Also, the plane if it did land anywhere, best place is Somalia as anywhere else it would have had to go over another nation and be picked up on radar or picked up on radar when approaching land. Somalia is a rogue nation and if it is there, heaven knows what the plans are for it.

[Pandora'sParadox]

If we do not uncover them "the right way", we risk making ourselves look bad.

What Somalia plans to do?
Probably one of two options. Ransom or scraping the plane for parts and buying more guns from us. :zip:

[southerncross]

The Captain has been photographed in a tee shirt saying "Democracy Is dead". And his family moved out the day before this occurred. Then there's this, to keep flying undetected, two individuals would have had to work together to disable the satellite communication. So, does he have help ?
Thing is if there's a meaning to this why hasn't a message or responsibility surfaced. You know, Viva blah blah.
You can bet there's something political behind this, but why put it in the drink without any message ? That's why is tempting to say its somewhere on the ground. The passengers are dead or they'd have been ransomed by now.
Just 2 likely scenarios in my mind in the drink or on some rogue state runway. It would have to flyover India to get to Pakistan. Maybe with out the satellite tracking they could do it.
I'm sure the best minds are on this. It's just amazing its gone so long. Sometimes it's the simplest plots that work.

[Longeyes]

Latest theory being checked out by Malaysian authorities is that it may have been flow to Pakistan as part of an Islamist plot to latter use it in a 911 style attack ?!?

[majicbar]

Latest theory being checked out by Malaysian authorities is that it may have been flow to Pakistan as part of an Islamist plot to latter use it in a 911 style attack ?!?It sure would seem to fit, one can not imagine hijacking the plane and flying an elaborate and obscure path just to commit suicide. Such a plot would be a much larger conspiracy though, as it would require many to ignore radars and when landing and hangering at an airfield especially when such airliners are rare at most fields, and then one has to fuel it for further attack. If that is not what happened look for a similar plot in an upcoming James Bond thriller.

[Pandora'sParadox]

Latest theory being checked out by Malaysian authorities is that it may have been flow to Pakistan as part of an Islamist plot to latter use it in a 911 style attack ?!?

First off, "WE" perpetrated 9/11. The sooner Americans come to terms with it, the better. Which leads me to believe if they got anywhere close to anything important, it's going to be shot down in a heart beat.

So...what the motive? Why steal an airliner? What's the significance?

1. Like Longeyes suggested, a kamikazi style of attack. Maybe on a lesser country with not so good radar capabilities...
2. The plane was stripped and sold for parts...
3. Abduction. o_O
4. The plane may be reconfigured for a rouge military use. Think of a bigger picture. Maybe they needed a giant plane to play a part in an even bigger plot.

If all the passengers are still alive, then all we can do is wait until something happens or someone comes forward. If we receive an announcement saying all the people are dead and they found the plane, then a much bigger plan was unfolding. :zip:

[southerncross]

Good chance those passengers died of oxygen starvation when they went up to 45,000'. You have have 3 minutes.
Explains why no mass phone calls out.
I agree this plane has an ugly future. Depending on who's behind it it could go into any given financial or government center. Lets hope they find this thing.
Then we have to also acknowledge that flight has made a seismic shift yet again as preflight checks will change for crew, and planes may have some reengineering coming so they can't be lost again.

[calikid]

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/p0Ue_W0Vwnwr4SUkt5XOZg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTQyMTtweG9mZj01MDtweW 9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz03NDk-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/437440de7249e1270a525990f7bdb46c7c7bf98a.jpg

[Redbone]

If the plane were stripped, loaded with explosives, flown below radar and crashed into an unsupecting nation. Who do you think would be the most likely target? I do not think America. They would have to give up too much weight in fuel. Not enough bang for their buck. My quess would be someone closer so they can can do maximum damage.

[majicbar]

First off, "WE" perpetrated 9/11. The sooner Americans come to terms with it, the better. Which leads me to believe if they got anywhere close to anything important, it's going to be shot down in a heart beat.

So...what the motive? Why steal an airliner? What's the significance?

1. Like Longeyes suggested, a kamikazi style of attack. Maybe on a lesser country with not so good radar P...
2. The plane was stripped and sold for parts...
3. Abduction. o_O
. The plane may be reconfigured for a rouge military use. Think of a bigger picture. Maybe they needed a giant plane to play a part in an even bigger plot.

If all the passengers are still alive, then all we can do is wait until something happens or someone comes forward. If we receive an announcement saying all the people are dead and they found the plane, then a much bigger plan was unfolding. :zip:
It can not be sold for parts, each part is marked with planes serial number and part number. Unless an airline would risk being caught without part and serial number on any of it's airframe, the only value of such a frame is the scrap price. The most likely use is a nightmare come real.

[southerncross]

Good point Redbone

Possibles might be Mumbai, or Saudi Arabia. Then eastern Chinese muslims have a big beef with Beijing.
Plenty of angry factions over there. The US is not always the center of the universe. Lately we've been doing quite well harming our own nation, we don't need help.
I can't wait to see what the hard drive on the Pilots simulator has on it. Even erased, they can recover information.

[Pandora'sParadox]

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-planes-flight-path-changed-cockpit-computer-062047053.html

Referencing transponder and destination change times.

Basically, everyone has turned their attention to these 2 pilots and nothing else. Once these two men are found, I believe we will have our answer.

[Pandora'sParadox]

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/03/12/ac-foreman-plane.cnn.html

:cool:

The plane is most likely just south of were the chinese images were taken on those little islands.

[Longeyes]

I think that was from last Wednesday.

Lastest Australians are searching of their north western coast following data from the us

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/mh370-search-indian-ocean-weeks-australia-admits

[southerncross]

I think he is definitely on to something, I've thought all along this thing is going to be seen next attempting to deliver a destructive blow somewhere in that area. I can't see them trying the US, but Israel, Singapore, Hong Kong, any major financial center, perhaps Saudi Arabia, do to Sunni and Shiite differences.
Anyway you slice it, it's not good. I think the passengers were DOA. But that's better than what the terrorists would have done to these poor people.

An economist I read looks to be right. The war models are definitely indicating May-June and Nov.-Dec. as peaks of two curves. Between these people and Russia its going to be a bumpy year.

----------------------------------------
Retired Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney — the recipient of the Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, Air Medal with 17 oak-leaf clusters, Distinguished Service Medal and other honors — is suggesting searchers looking for the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 take a look at possible landing spots in Taliban-controlled Pakistan.


In an interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News, McInerney, now a contributor to the network, said his recommendation was based on information from sources he was unwilling to disclose on television as well as the analysis of an intelligence service called LIGNET.

McInerney said the free world needs to be worried until the location of the jet, which disappeared March 8 on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, is determined.

Fox News

[majicbar]

Possible debris spoted by satellite at near maximum range along the southern arc of data header from fight 370 as heard by satellite the morning it disappeared. While this is another wild loose end, it could yet prove to be what everone has been hoping to find. If this is true then pilot suicide or pilot disorientation are the likely cause. Like the Helios crash bad air could lead to disorientation with unusual behaviors as the pilots become staved for air. Contaminated oil in an engine might have introduced a poison into the air, but if this is from the plane we should get a definitive answer to the cause.

[Longeyes]

Read this yesterday, it's been doing the rounds on Facebook, and actually seems the most sensible explanation yet. It's by a pilot he reckons the communications where taken out by a fire, the pilot headed for the nearest runway there is one exactly in the direction of the adjusted course. The reason why the aircraft was taken up to its operational ceiling 45,000ft may well have been to put out a fire on board. However before they made to put out the fire, or reach the landing strip, the flight crew and maybe the passengers became asphyxiated by the fire and passed out and the autopilot just flew until it ran out of fuel.
No bizarre hostage takeover or terrorist threat just a decent pilot he just trying his best to save the plane.

A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet
• By Chris Goodfellow

There has been a lot of speculation about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Terrorism, hijacking, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN; it’s almost disturbing. I tend to look for a simpler explanation, and I find it with the 13,000-foot runway at Pulau Langkawi.
We know the story of MH370: A loaded Boeing 777 departs at midnight from Kuala Lampur, headed to Beijing. A hot night. A heavy aircraft. About an hour out, across the gulf toward Vietnam, the plane goes dark, meaning the transponder and secondary radar tracking go off. Two days later we hear reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar, meaning the plane is tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the Strait of Malacca

The left turn is the key here. Zaharie Ahmad Shah1 was a very experienced senior captain with 18,000 hours of flight time. We old pilots were drilled to know what is the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us, and airports ahead of us. They’re always in our head. Always. If something happens, you don’t want to be thinking about what are you going to do–you already know what you are going to do. When I saw that left turn with a direct heading, I instinctively knew he was heading for an airport. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier toward Langkawi, which also was closer.
Take a look at this airport on Google Earth. The pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport.
The loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire.
When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and searched for airports in proximity to the track toward the southwest.
For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main buses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the buses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations.
There are two types of fires. An electrical fire might not be as fast and furious, and there may or may not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility, given the timeline, that there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires, it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes, this happens with underinflated tires. Remember: Heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long-run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. Once going, a tire fire would produce horrific, incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks, but this is a no-no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter, but this will last only a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one in my flight bag, and I still carry one in my briefcase when I fly.)
What I think happened is the flight crew was overcome by smoke and the plane continued on the heading, probably on George (autopilot), until it ran out of fuel or the fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. You will find it along that route–looking elsewhere is pointless.

Ongoing speculation of a hijacking and/or murder-suicide and that there was a flight engineer on board does not sway me in favor of foul play until I am presented with evidence of foul play.
We know there was a last voice transmission that, from a pilot’s point of view, was entirely normal. “Good night” is customary on a hand-off to a new air traffic control. The “good night” also strongly indicates to me that all was OK on the flight deck. Remember, there are many ways a pilot can communicate distress. A hijack code or even transponder code off by one digit would alert ATC that something was wrong. Every good pilot knows keying an SOS over the mike always is an option. Even three short clicks would raise an alert. So I conclude that at the point of voice transmission all was perceived as well on the flight deck by the pilots.
But things could have been in the process of going wrong, unknown to the pilots.
Evidently the ACARS went inoperative some time before. Disabling the ACARS is not easy, as pointed out. This leads me to believe more in an electrical problem or an electrical fire than a manual shutdown. I suggest the pilots probably were not aware ACARS was not transmitting.
As for the reports of altitude fluctuations, given that this was not transponder-generated data but primary radar at maybe 200 miles, the azimuth readings can be affected by a lot of atmospherics and I would not have high confidence in this being totally reliable. But let’s accept for a minute that the pilot may have ascended to 45,000 feet in a last-ditch effort to quell a fire by seeking the lowest level of oxygen. That is an acceptable scenario. At 45,000 feet, it would be tough to keep this aircraft stable, as the flight envelope is very narrow and loss of control in a stall is entirely possible. The aircraft is at the top of its operational ceiling. The reported rapid rates of descent could have been generated by a stall, followed by a recovery at 25,000 feet. The pilot may even have been diving to extinguish flames.
But going to 45,000 feet in a hijack scenario doesn’t make any good sense to me.
Regarding the additional flying time: On departing Kuala Lampur, Flight 370 would have had fuel for Beijing and an alternate destination, probably Shanghai, plus 45 minutes–say, 8 hours. Maybe more. He burned 20-25 percent in the first hour with takeoff and the climb to cruise. So when the turn was made toward Langkawi, he would have had six hours or more hours worth of fuel. This correlates nicely with the Inmarsat data pings being received until fuel exhaustion.
Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible.
The now known continued flight until time to fuel exhaustion only confirms to me that the crew was incapacitated and the flight continued on deep into the south Indian ocean.
There is no point speculating further until more evidence surfaces, but in the meantime it serves no purpose to malign pilots who well may have been in a struggle to save this aircraft from a fire or other serious mechanical issue. Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. There is no doubt in my mind. That’s the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijacking would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It probably would have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided where they were taking it.
Surprisingly, none of the reporters, officials, or other pilots interviewed have looked at this from the pilot’s viewpoint: If something went wrong, where would he go? Thanks to Google Earth I spotted Langkawi in about 30 seconds, zoomed in and saw how long the runway was and I just instinctively knew this pilot knew this airport. He had probably flown there many times.
Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well-remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed, I believe, in Columbus, Ohio in the 1980s. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn’t instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually, but lost 30-odd souls. The 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. They simply ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what? The transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the buses.
Get on Google Earth and type in Pulau Langkawi and then look at it in relation to the radar track heading. Two plus two equals four. For me, that is the simple explanation why it turned and headed in that direction. Smart pilot. He just didn’t have the time.

Chris Goodfellow has 20 years experience as a Canadian Class-1 instrumented-rated pilot for multi-engined planes.

[Longeyes]

The above theory may be wrong apparently because the plane flew to two further way pts after Palau Langkawi airstrip.. who knows? There is no definite evidence that it was hijacked either.
Hopefully the debris will clear it up.

An MH370 theory that was simple, compelling and wrong
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-26640114

[southerncross]

It's a logical theory. And the wire bundles do emit a cyanide gas when they burn. It would permeate even the oxygen masks. But I'm left with the question of why did the Captain have his family move out the day before the flight. Much was not taken including the simulator whose hard drive was wiped clean. Have they been found and questioned ?
Quite a puzzle The answer will be interesting.

[Doc]

From Victor's List and Robert Morningstar:

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 03:37:26 +0000

Subject: Breaking News: Objects possibly from missing Malaysia Airlines flight seen, Australia says!







Los Angeles Times | March 19, 2014 | 8:36 PM


Australia's prime minister says objects possibly related to the missing Malaysia Airlines flight have been spotted on satellite imagery.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott told Parliament in Canberra on Thursday that a Royal Australian Air Force Orion has been diverted to the search area to attempt to locate the objects. The Orion is expected to arrive in the area Thursday afternoon. Three additional aircraft are expected to follow for a more intensive search.


For the latest information go to www.latimes.com (http://e.latimes.com/a/hBTKmJ1B8hLWGB848fGAAVMZZwA/exmp1).

[majicbar]

Possible debris spoted by satellite at near maximum range along the southern arc of data header from fight 370 as heard by satellite the morning it disappeared. While this is another wild loose end, it could yet prove to be what everone has been hoping to find. If this is true then pilot suicide or pilot disorientation are the likely cause. Like the Helios crash bad air could lead to disorientation with unusual behaviors as the pilots become staved for air. Contaminated oil in an engine might have introduced a poison into the air, but if this is from the plane we should get a definitive answer to the cause.http://www.b737.org.uk/helios.htm The Helios crash does not answer what happened to Malaysia Airlines flight 370, but it shows how such a crash is investigated and how with enough information that a crash can be reconstructed. The loss of cabin pressure and a switch in the wrong position, combined with a design that did not exclude such a mistake and pressure loss set up the Helios aircraft to crash.

The programmed course changes are not present in the Helios crash, such an intentional act would require some very extreme explanation, especially when the Captain did not announce to the air traffic controllers some reason for deviating from his flight plan. And was the First officer in on the deal, or did he just not want to challenge the Captain.

[whoknows]

Ya know this all could, though all too real, be just another smoke screen to divert our attention away from more important matters.

I bet a lot of you folks here already smell it...?


The Stuff they Don't Want You to Know podcast posted by CasperParks yesterday is I would suggest imho very worthy of thought.

I wonder, is the world once again ready to allow their children to be used as cannon fodder for the sake of another money power grab of a few?

http://www.livescience.com/44171-society-civilization-collapse-study.html

[newyorklily]

The debris in the Indian Ocean they thought was the plane turned out to be a freighter and a school of dolphins.
I think they are looking in the wrong place. They have been searching over the water and I think they should focus over land. I think they should be looking for small unpopulated islands. I think, if and when the FBI retrieves the deleted files from the flight simulator, they will find that they were simulations for landing on short runways. From the evidence the media has shown us, I don't think the pilot was a terrorist. I think the pilot might have wanted to start his own democratic utopia and he had a plane with 238 diverse people to do it with.
JMHO!

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[calikid]

The debris in the Indian Ocean they thought was the plane turned out to be a freighter and a school of dolphins.
I think they are looking in the wrong place. They have been searching over the water and I think they should focus over land. I think they should be looking for small unpopulated islands. I think, if and when the FBI retrieves the deleted files from the flight simulator, they will find that they were simulations for landing on short runways. From the evidence the media has shown us, I don't think the pilot was a terrorist. I think the pilot might have wanted to start his own democratic utopia and he had a plane with 238 diverse people to do it with.
JMHO!

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Sounds more likely than the last news story I read where a mini black hole ate the plane!

[Dragonfire]

The debris in the Indian Ocean they thought was the plane turned out to be a freighter and a school of dolphins.
I think they are looking in the wrong place. They have been searching over the water and I think they should focus over land. I think they should be looking for small unpopulated islands. I think, if and when the FBI retrieves the deleted files from the flight simulator, they will find that they were simulations for landing on short runways. From the evidence the media has shown us, I don't think the pilot was a terrorist. I think the pilot might have wanted to start his own democratic utopia and he had a plane with 238 diverse people to do it with.
JMHO!

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Could just as easily be a safe water landing. Say along a remote beach(?)

[Longeyes]

New conspiracy theory about the plane....
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/465557/Malaysian-plane-20-on-board-worked-for-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company

[majicbar]

Chinese aircraft in the search area found complex debris field, a larger part smaller parts and a lot of smaller white debris, which sound like papers, perhaps from magazines which are impregnated with plastics. These white debris reminds me of the Shanksville 9/11 crash where same size white papers were thrown high into the air when it nosedived into the ground. There is a big storm moving into the search area and night will limit searching so hopefully they dropped marker bouys into what they found. Chinese icebreaker moving into the search area as well.

[majicbar]

Chinese aircraft in the search area found complex debris field, a larger part smaller parts and a lot of smaller white debris, which sound like papers, perhaps from magazines which are impregnated with plastics. These white debris reminds me of the Shanksville 9/11 crash where same size white papers were thrown high into the air when it nosedived into the ground. There is a big storm moving into the search area and night will limit searching so hopefully they dropped marker bouys into what they found. Chinese icebreaker moving into the search area as well.It looks more and more like they have general area of crash off Australia and can confirm with debris shortly. In some ways the odd behavior reminds me of several crash senarios, the Helios crash and the Columbia Shuttle crash. My estimation is that they had some kind of fire that overtook crew with smoke and carbon monoxide, they started to return to Kuola Lampur but lost conciousness. The crew failed to communicate and acted irrationally. Finding the wreck becomes critical, suicide still remains strong possibility untill excluded. Clearly no black hole, and no UFO.

[Longeyes]

New conspiracy theory about the plane....
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/465557/Malaysian-plane-20-on-board-worked-for-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company

I'll expand on this so no one misses it.
Full article on site.


Malaysian plane: 20 passengers worked for ELECTRONIC WARFARE and MILITARY RADAR firm
A US technology company which had 20 senior staff on board Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar systems in the days before the Boeing 777 went missing.
By: Ted Jeory
Published: Wed, March 19, 2014

DEVELOPMENT Freescale Semiconductor which had 20 workers on MH370 had just launched new radar chips DEVELOPMENT: Freescale Semiconductor which had 20 workers on MH370 had just launched new radar chips [EXPRESS]

Freescale Semiconductor, which makes powerful microchips for industries including defence, released the powerful new products to the American market on March 3.

Five days later, Flight MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing with 239 people on board including 20 working for Freescale.

Twelve were from Malaysia, while eight were Chinese nationals.

Freescale’s spokesman Mitch Haws has said: “These were all people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people.

“It’s definitely a loss for the company.”

Freescale’s shareholders include the Carlyle Group of private equity investors whose past advisers have included ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major...

[calikid]

Airline declares MH370 lost in Southern Indian Ocean
All lives are lost.

Wonder what they know that we don't? Or simple giving up?

[Doc]

Airline declares MH370 lost in Southern Indian Ocean
All lives are lost.

Wonder what they know that we don't? Or simple giving up?

I've been thinking for a few days they were just waiting to have the coverup fully nailed down.

[southerncross]

I just don't understand why if it was going to be such a dramatic suicide why someone didn't leave a note, a video, something. And if a political protest, where's the protest or if terrorism, where's the hurrah for our side ?
To me that leaves freak accident or theft, or deliberate murder in the case of the engineers.
Where it may have landed, I don't know. Left my crystal ball at the office.

[calikid]

I've been thinking for a few days they were just waiting to have the coverup fully nailed down.

Two weeks without a clue.
Daily Cost of fuel alone for all those search ships and planes must be very expensive.
A difficult decision to terminate the search. Sad for the families.

[Doc]

I just don't understand why if it was going to be such a dramatic suicide why someone didn't leave a note, a video, something. And if a political protest, where's the protest or if terrorism, where's the hurrah for our side ?
To me that leaves freak accident or theft, or deliberate murder in the case of the engineers.
Where it may have landed, I don't know. Left my crystal ball at the office.

If the suicide crash is indeed true, I'd say the absence of a note or other farewell is explained by the distraught pilot acting on impulse without a plan beforehand even though he may have considered it.

[Pandora'sParadox]

http://news-hound.org/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-now-clearly-a-government-cover-up-all-evidence-contradicts-official-story/

At least someone isn't afraid to point out the BLADE T OBVIOUSNESS! !!

[majicbar]

http://news-hound.org/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-now-clearly-a-government-cover-up-all-evidence-contradicts-official-story/

At least someone isn't afraid to point out the BLADE T OBVIOUSNESS! !!The author of the piece makes an impassioned arguement for his point of view, but it is all B.S. one only need to look at the Air France crash to refute this foolish argument. An Airbus 340 and the Boeing 777 are similar in size, the Air France accident did not leave a great deal of debris, almost all of the craft fell to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. The Airbus 340 was using the active reporting system which helped to quickly show where it went down, and it was traveling on a known air corridor. Malaysian flight 370 was off any normal flight path and was not using an active reporting system because Malaysian Air was too cheap to pay $10 per flight for that service. The hunt for debris in an area as large as Alaska is continuing, news indicates that something may have been found but not yet recovered. Without clues found by satellite this would have, and may still be an impossible task.

[majicbar]

First planes into area report finding lots to look at. Some of what they are finding has the colors of Malaysia Airlines. First actual debris are being returned to Australian bases for identification. I hope they got lucky.

[southerncross]

No real news out there. Wondering if not only did the plan fell off the radar but the story too ?

[majicbar]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/asia/malayisa-airlines-flight-370-search/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Still no real news, only speculation. This technique could not be used to point to the Air France crash, why expect it to work in deeper waters that are hardly being watched compared to the Atlantic with it's submarine traffic.