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southerncross
04-09-2014, 01:41 AM
I suppose it could be any number of things but there are some good image people here, perhaps they have a theory.

http://www.chron.com/news/strange-weird/article/NASA-photo-captures-strange-bright-light-coming-5382677.php#photo-6131491

majicbar
04-09-2014, 02:02 AM
I suppose it could be any number of things but there are some good image people here, perhaps they have a theory.

http://www.chron.com/news/strange-weird/article/NASA-photo-captures-strange-bright-light-coming-5382677.php#photo-6131491
This would be a good way to initiate their announcement of their presence. But then again how could they be sure it would get the broadcast coverage back here on Earth? Maybe they are only building a case which cannot be ignored, but then again I was sold on ET being here long, long ago.

Marvin
04-09-2014, 02:18 PM
Going for the easy answer...

We have a photo (which was transmitted to Earth) that appears to show "light' being emitted from the Martian surface.

There were two cameras which caught this same area at the same time, only one camera recorded this bright “light.”

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/1ce1c167219f0c1aa5a4226811e0b8f6.gif

First, the surrounding area is fairly dark. If this is actually emitted light (and not a camera/transmission glitch), then the ground around the light should be illuminated.

Seeing no illumination, I would therefore suspect this is a glitch in the camera, (or) with the accumulated data, (or) transmitted/received data or a brightly reflecting surface. In the past, a very bright reflection recorded by these cameras have been overly exaggerated by the light detector.

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/rovers-06-670x440-140123.jpg

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/mer/2005-02-28/Sol324B_P2357-540-308.jpg

NASA thinks the light area in the photo is either a vent-hole light leak or a glinty rock. There is a slight chance that it could be a cosmic ray strike:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/mer/2005-12-05/pia03616-540.jpg


M

Doc
04-09-2014, 05:59 PM
Great analysis!


I used to see a very bright light in the mountains South of me from a place that is mostly forest with a few remote homes connected by dirt roads. When I finally went over there to have look around I found a secluded monastery I'd occasionally heard about, and I deduced the "light" was a reflection off a small window when the afternoon sun made its way through the trees for a half-hour, then set.

Pandora'sParadox
04-09-2014, 06:05 PM
My first thought was the vent hole. It looks more compressed at the bottom than towards the top. I would suggest the rock idea, but it doesn't seem likely that there is something that reflective occurring naturally in the rocks...if it were a reflection of sorts, wouldn't it shine both below and above, not just out the top?

My biggest ponderment is...they control the damn rover, just drive it over and see whats up. :doh:




or it could be some guy just taking his light suit out for a stroll...

southerncross
04-11-2014, 02:31 AM
Earthfiles filed a response as to what it is. As good an explanation as any.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2191&category=Science

touched
04-11-2014, 08:49 AM
Going for the easy answer...

We have a photo (which was transmitted to Earth) that appears to show "light' being emitted from the Martian surface.

There were two cameras which caught this same area at the same time, only one camera recorded this bright “light.”

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/1ce1c167219f0c1aa5a4226811e0b8f6.gif

First, the surrounding area is fairly dark. If this is actually emitted light (and not a camera/transmission glitch), then the ground around the light should be illuminated.

Seeing no illumination, I would therefore suspect this is a glitch in the camera, (or) with the accumulated data, (or) transmitted/received data or a brightly reflecting surface. In the past, a very bright reflection recorded by these cameras have been overly exaggerated by the light detector.

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/rovers-06-670x440-140123.jpg

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/mer/2005-02-28/Sol324B_P2357-540-308.jpg

NASA thinks the light area in the photo is either a vent-hole light leak or a glinty rock. There is a slight chance that it could be a cosmic ray strike:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/mer/2005-12-05/pia03616-540.jpg


M

I think they may have found the Illudium Q 36 Space Modulator. :biggrin2:
1176

There were two cameras which caught this same area at the same time, only one camera recorded this bright “light.”

Good work Marvin !

Doc
04-11-2014, 07:37 PM
Dude dropped his flashlight. :angel_not:


Seriously, amazing work as always, Marvin! :thumbup:

Pandora'sParadox
04-11-2014, 08:16 PM
Marvin...I need your help. Prove that skinny bob is real...

I've always wanted a "paul" style little E.T. sorta buddy. :cool:

I'll be willing to start it in the debunk thread,(or do it here) I just want your expect analysis on that whole thing...

majicbar
04-11-2014, 10:50 PM
The light has to be some kind of sensor issue. From the raw images it appears the Curiosiy rover moved some distance, thus the light cannot be an object just reflecting light from the Sun as the geometry would change and one could not expect to see the reflection from the same object again only in the right camera. The most likely cause would seem to be cosmic ray damage where it electrically charged a pixel on the sensor and it bled out when the image was taken, this is luckily not a common event or the cameras would be seeing this all the time.

touched
04-11-2014, 11:16 PM
The light has to be some kind of sensor issue. From the raw images it appears the Curiosiy rover moved some distance, thus the light cannot be an object just reflecting light from the Sun as the geometry would change and one could not expect to see the reflection from the same object again only in the right camera. The most likely cause would seem to be cosmic ray damage where it electrically charged a pixel on the sensor and it bled out when the image was taken, this is luckily not a common event or the cameras would be seeing this all the time.

Hot pixel ?

majicbar
04-12-2014, 12:33 AM
Hot pixel ?Do you recall seeing a picture of the damage to the Apollo helmets from cosmic rays? Cosmic rays moving through a material will drag some of it out and form a cone of some size in electron micrographs. This material will acquire some electric charge as well and can damage CCD's and other chips permanently. Computers can sense when a pixel becomes "hot" and can drop it from the scan in high end processors and I would assume this has happened here, but several frames showed the "hot pixel" before being dropped from the scanning.

Marvin
04-15-2014, 09:36 PM
Marvin...I need your help. Prove that skinny bob is real...

I've always wanted a "paul" style little E.T. sorta buddy. :cool:

I'll be willing to start it in the debunk thread,(or do it here) I just want your expect analysis on that whole thing...




PanPara, feel free to post anything you would like in the Image Analysis threads... I am sure one of us will find the time to take a look.

Of course it is difficult to approach any analysis of something being “real.” It would be more correct to look for evidence of forgery and try to prove fabrication. If you are only looking for evidence of reality, then the "search" will become exclusively negligent to any evidence of falsehood (especially in the light that you are not looking for that kind of data). But if one cannot prove it to be a fake, it opens up the probability of it being the real deal.


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