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epo333
05-21-2014, 02:39 AM
In this first Youtube it is very hard to see the UFO. Not to mention the guy is excited.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIIKKyBhd-E


Then here he seems to enhance thye video to a clear view in the B&W or grey scale if you will. (around 0:24sec)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqh61WsuRKU


Looks impressive to me, but I usually get suckered by CGIs...

majicbar
05-21-2014, 03:32 AM
In this first Youtube it is very hard to see the UFO. Not to mention the guy is excited.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIIKKyBhd-E


Then here he seems to enhance thye video to a clear view in the B&W or grey scale if you will. (around 0:24sec)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqh61WsuRKU
Looks impressive to me, but I usually get suckered by CGIs...

It is easy to forget that the rocket is in motion. The video frame is following the rocket giving the illusion that an object comes and hits the rocket. What I think is happening here is that Saturn was high in the sky to the East of the rocket's launch site, the rocket took off and was being filmed as it progressed up and to the East. The rocket's path took it passing Saturn, but in the frame it is an illusion that it comes toward the rocket. This occurs several minutes before the third stage fails, which is another slam against the claims of this video's maker. The remake with enhansement only serves to obscure what really happened. So I ask myself was that intentional, making this a fraudulent claim of it being caused by a UFO? The video is not what it's maker would have us believe, I am not willing to be fooled.

epo333
05-21-2014, 12:18 PM
Humm, not impossible I guess.

Its a really big sky for a rocket and Saturn to have an "chance" intersect in respect to the camera, right at a booster failure.

But ... not impossible.

majicbar
05-21-2014, 01:36 PM
Humm, not impossible I guess.

Its a really big sky for a rocket and Saturn to have an "chance" intersect in respect to the camera, right at a booster failure.

But ... not impossible.
You missed the part where it was the third stage that failed four minutes after what is in this video. There seems to be a certain art in these videos that screws up what really happened. It has to be deliberate because they just can not be that stupid.

majicbar
05-21-2014, 02:14 PM
You missed the part where it was the third stage that failed four minutes after what is in this video. There seems to be a certain art in these videos that screws up what really happened. It has to be deliberate because they just can not be that stupid.Actually the third stage starts at 4 minutes and runs through 9 minutes, the page on the Proton launches says that the failure was at 540 seconds which is 9 minutes into the flight. The Russia Today video only lasts through the first stage of the launch and runs 2:06. There is no way that something hit the Proton and it continued to fly for another 7+ minutes, and then failed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_(rocket_family)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Proton_launches

Proton third stage engine failure at T+540 seconds.[37]

15 May 2014
21:42:00 (UTC)

Proton-M/Briz-M 8K82KM/11S43 Serial No. 935-45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrnOnnzYLU4

In the RT video one can not see the "object", which leads me to wonder how much what we are seeing is an artifact of over enhancing, doctoring, the original video.

rdunk
05-21-2014, 09:55 PM
Here is a link for slow motion of the video. Still a bit difficult to see it, but certainly more easy whatever it is. :)


http://www.youtubeslow.com/watch?v=HS3p8f5XLOk

majicbar
05-22-2014, 12:40 AM
I have watched hundreds of launches, about a minute in at this time of the year, rocket exhaust will always form a contrail, that is what the video shows. If you looked at each night launch of a Proton rocket it would do the same thing at the same point in the launch. The video is showing the first stage burn, which went without a hitch. IT WAS THE THIRD STAGE THAT FAILED AT 540 SECONDS. This video which ends at 126 seconds has NOTHING to do with the failure.