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Merjose
12-07-2014, 12:16 PM
I did not made this up.

Please don´t judge me.

Something strange happened one day ago. Actually I did not wanted to write about it, but I do think a lot about it, so maybe I should write about it, to find some conclusions, because ignoring it will not help in any possible way.

My english is not quiet good, so I probably did many linguistic errors.

I was sleeping on the couch. Suddenly a voice next to me said the following:

"We need to use the middle dimensional space because the other two dimensional entrances don´t work"

So this made me wake up because it was loud and I asked myself with closed eyes who is next to me talking, because I figured out fast that I couldn´t move and I could not even open my eyes. I tried to use all the power I had just for opening up my eyes, but something was somehow a lot stronger, to block my will, so this made me at that moment confused and angry at the same time and for about 2 seconds I could open just my right eye a little bit and see a dwarf like being in a black robe next to the couch.

It started to say again something in this moment, but to someone else on the right side of the living room and for maybe a half second I could turn around a little bit to see who else is there and there was a second dwarf in a black robe coming trough the closed window into the living room, but before I could ask myself what was going on, someone touched with cold fingers my left eye in a very gentle way, but it was not nice to do that and I heard a voice saying something like:

"Getting stronger, move on"

The voice sounded very nasally and very high pitched, like a human female child that tries talking while having a heavy cold, but the speaking was also very quick and sounded mechanical. Normal human talking speed would be very, very slow if you compare it with their speed of talking.

Anyway, at that moment this dwarf in his black robe started shining in a yellow light or his black robe was technology that could shine in yellow light, not sure about that, but it made that impression.

I could see its head and facial structure before it changed into a light of yellow color, but its difficult to describe it because the way this one dwarfs head and face looked, is very difficult to describe.

I will do a painting later after editing this report to write a bit more about everything.

Next thing was that I still couldn´t move and turn around or jump up and these suddenly yellow shining dwarfs changed the color of their light and turned into blue shining light without any form of some figure, they just looked suddenly like a blue light and went both trough the closed window back outside.

Seconds later I could move again and I remember that I felt very afraid and my cat was running in a panic out of the living room.

The clock showed 7 minutes before 5 in the morning and it was still dark outside.

Merjose
12-07-2014, 12:48 PM
http://up.picr.de/20327670iq.jpg

lycaeus
12-07-2014, 01:49 PM
Thanks for sharing. Everyone here is understanding and open-minded so no need to worry about harsh judgement. Your english is actually fine.

I thought I remembered seeing a shorter robed being near the taller hammerhead being in that one incident I reported. I wonder if this is a similar group?

I know EXACTLY what it is like to feel beings around you in bed while you can't open your eyes or move. It is very frustrating when you know something's there, but then they're gone, or you feel your memory has been erased of something.

Interesting about the morphing into the lights. I've encountered a few weird lights at night in bed. A couple times was an orange-yellow spark that is usually a contraction of a larger spark, that then flies away fast. I believe alien-abductee-Simon-Parkes describes this/or similar phenomenon as a shapeshifting alien.

WildMage
12-08-2014, 07:39 AM
http://up.picr.de/20327670iq.jpg

when you say not ears, how would you describe it, was it bone, a ridge of some sort, i.e. part of their anatomy, or something it was wearing?

Have you seen these beings or had similar experience before?

were you able to make out any type of skin color or texture?

about the robe, what type of material would you say it was made out of?

*WM*

Merjose
12-09-2014, 03:47 PM
when you say not ears, how would you describe it, was it bone, a ridge of some sort, i.e. part of their anatomy, or something it was wearing?

It was on the side of that part that looked like a head and looked perfectly geometrical shaped like a pyramid on each side so its problably not biological.


Have you seen these beings or had similar experience before?

Experiences yes, but not with the experienced visual content.


were you able to make out any type of skin color or texture?

Skin color was yellow. Texture was not available. Probably to some degree etherical and not physical.


about the robe, what type of material would you say it was made out of?

It looked like very expansive shining Cashmere.

WildMage
12-09-2014, 06:16 PM
It was on the side of that part that looked like a head and looked perfectly geometrical shaped like a pyramid on each side so its problably not biological.


First off thank you for your responses. If you had to classify the entity what would be your closest description to what you saw. setting aside the ethereal aspects, animal, insect, mechanical? If looking back if you say it has no relation to known kingdoms, does it equate to any religious,mythological or legend type entity? Were there any other distinguishing features or patterns?



Experiences yes, but not with the experienced visual content.


If you go over your feelings how would you classify them .. the good and the bad, what was the mix, your thoughts thru these experiences?



Skin color was yellow. Texture was not available. Probably to some degree etherical and not physical.


Would you say the color was from the light shining or actual color of the entity. When you say etherical was this in your minds eye or more like a holographic type projection, would you be able to describe it further?



It looked like very expansive shining Cashmere.


Was it like a uniform of sorts or more like comfort clothing i.e. could you determine if the robe was serving some type of purpose? Like obfuscating aspects of the entity or carrying parts of their technology. Would you say they were using any technology or more of they were a part of the environment and using other means of manipulating such. If not tech, would you be able to describe what it felt like to you or think of anything which would explain their actions as a natural ability on their part?

once again thank you for your patience.

*WM*

Merjose
12-09-2014, 07:47 PM
First off thank you for your responses. If you had to classify the entity what would be your closest description to what you saw.

1.) Insectoid humanoid with a black robe looking like cashmere material enters the living room with yellow skin and a pyramid on each side of its head.

2.) This whatever it was suddenly came close to me till it was at my face and it touched my left eye with its cold child like hand and after this it went fast away from me because it got afraid of something about me and it said "getting stronger" and "move on" and after it said this it directly changed its form in the living room before the door to the floor and shapeshifted into a blue light ball that moved at first very slowly first over the little and after that over the larger cupboard and after this it moved slowly over the television and made a stop before the 3 birds in the cage, after this it moved above the cage and made a pause of about 3 seconds before a giant silver lizard painting on the wall next to the window and after this pause it went trough the closed window into the garden outside and more I could not observe because I went not outside to follow it.


setting aside the ethereal aspects, animal, insect, mechanical?

It combined all these aspects.


If looking back if you say it has no relation to known kingdoms, does it equate to any religious,mythological or legend type entity?

Not really.


Were there any other distinguishing features or patterns?

Can´t be sure.


If you go over your feelings how would you classify them .. the good and the bad, what was the mix, your thoughts thru these experiences?

First I felt panic and fear, later bubbling and hostile aggression, because I couldn´t move, something had control over me and I couldn´t control this whatever it was. After it started to come very close to my face and touch with cold fingers my left eye, my fear and panic turned into bubbling aggression and this entity seemed to notice my hostile feelings about its behaviour and in this moment it went fast away from me.


Would you say the color was from the light shining or actual color of the entity.

Entity.


When you say etherical was this in your minds eye or more like a holographic type projection

It wasn´t holographical because it touched me and I had its cold fingers on my left eye. But it touched me with care and quiet gentle like I had some special meaning for this being.


Was it like a uniform of sorts or more like comfort clothing i.e. could you determine if the robe was serving some type of purpose?

No.


Like obfuscating aspects of the entity or carrying parts of their technology.

No.


Would you say they were using any technology or more of they were a part of the environment and using other means of manipulating such. If not tech, would you be able to describe what it felt like to you or think of anything which would explain their actions as a natural ability on their part?

No.

Merjose
12-10-2014, 09:26 AM
This night i had another encounter. At the door a being with glowing red eyes looked at me.

http://up.picr.de/20354833nb.jpg

It said to me that my report on internet (this complete report here on this forum here) was very unnecessary because the situation was not like I made it look for others that may read my report. This being with red glowing eyes talked further in its black robe that they are not aliens or demons and they are not interested in me.

This being last night said further to me that they are not part of the reality and dimension we use and experience. Their intention was to go from one dimensional reality into another one and this being continued further that my awareness is extremly good to capture things even beyond the known reality dimension, so this being said further, the other beings sensed my ability to do that so they decided to enter my reality on physical and biological level and therefore this one being touched me. It was a nice and interesting experience for this one being to be able to touch me and it was like I myself explained already a gentle touch with care.

Further this other being last night said that these 2 beings changed after this biological impression happened, directly the dimensional path and entered another reality dimension. So I asked this being from last night were did they go and if it could describe this other dimensional reality and so it described it. It explained that they entered another time and another cycle of line in time which is a normal reality of earth, but there things happen and happened in a complete different way (a real dimensional existing alternative reality) and they like to enter different alternative realities.

This being said not why or what their intention is, but it said also that I should relax and not worry because there is nothing that has bad intentions or anything in mind thats negative. It said such things happen and thats the nature of things that go beyond the reality what people realise.

Reality just is a reality because the mind and body is producing limits and by this a radius is created and thats the reality people experience on genetic and collective levels and some get closer to the limits and such people will also be able to observe more or less what happens beyond the so called collective reality.

lycaeus
12-10-2014, 09:53 AM
Wow that must be exciting. He said it's 'unnecessary' for you to talk about it? I wonder why he even cares at all? Sounds like he doesn't want you telling others about them. Well, you have a right to do whatever you want. If weird beings are doing strange things around me I'd want to talk about it.

I saw a shadowy figure like that during a paralysis episode, but I didn't notice red eyes, his face was just all black. And he was pure evil sot hat was probably like a demon. But as a kid, I remember a vivi dream of encountering a hooded being at an alter, also with no face..maybe that was an astral dimension experience, I think...

Sounds like they admire you and have somewhat positive feelings towards you. I wrote of a dream where I felt I was visited by beings one night, and I thought they were my family friends. Who knows. I know these otherworldly beings can sometimes manipulate you to believe what they want, and sometimes it's for negative reasons.

It said there is NOTHING that has bad intentions? He must not mean all aliens. Because the evidence proves that many of these otherworldly beings deliberately hurt and cause suffering to innocent people.

After they touched you and went to another dimension... do you think they had to connect with you for some reason in order to go where they went?

Any other details about this other timeline of Earth?

lycaeus
12-10-2014, 11:27 AM
Incidentally, I just read a post by someone online who reported something similar. He said he saw a black hooded, shadowy being that morphed into having these points at his head that looked like a hat. He said he felt really scared in this being's presence. He made this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NebM3UAE1eU&feature=youtu.be

Merjose
12-10-2014, 07:17 PM
Well, you have a right to do whatever you want.

Your statement is not correct and very evil. Nobody has the right to do whatever he wants. If someone or everyone has the right to do whatever he wants, its including the right to dominate everyone else in ways that can be highly destructive and very negative for other ones. Your statement is actually coming from a satanic view and its not coming from a loving perspective.


I saw a shadowy figure like that during a paralysis episode, but I didn't notice red eyes, his face was just all black. And he was pure evil sot hat was probably like a demon. But as a kid, I remember a vivi dream of encountering a hooded being at an alter, also with no face..maybe that was an astral dimension experience, I think...

Not everything has bad intentions, just because it could be a perfect bully. A pitbull is a good example. A pitbull could destroy a wild wolf just like that if the trainer created this violent path for the pitbull, but a pitbull also can be very cute and bring amusing fun and protection into someones life. So nothing has to be evil, but everything can be evil. This means evilness is something thats not existing as a pure essence. Evilness must be learned and trained to manifest its expression against someone or something.


Sounds like they admire you and have somewhat positive feelings towards you. I wrote of a dream where I felt I was visited by beings one night, and I thought they were my family friends. Who knows. I know these otherworldly beings can sometimes manipulate you to believe what they want, and sometimes it's for negative reasons.

Nobody should admire anyone. Everyone is a part from everyone else. Negative intentions and positive intentions are part of lower intelligence or mechanical AI but love and empathy or the ability to respect other things and lifeforms is essential.


It said there is NOTHING that has bad intentions? He must not mean all aliens. Because the evidence proves that many of these otherworldly beings deliberately hurt and cause suffering to innocent people.

Humans also hurt and cause suffering for innocent people. Its essential and normal plus its necessary for creating spiritual learning curves also for everyone else so the so called evilness could also be also a synthetic AI to show higher forms of intelligence that morals, respect, harmony, understanding and love for each other are the most important goal in life because everyone needs everyone and nobody can or should exist without someone.


After they touched you and went to another dimension... do you think they had to connect with you for some reason in order to go where they went?

No.


Any other details about this other timeline of Earth?

No.

lycaeus
12-10-2014, 08:36 PM
Your statement is not correct and very evil. Nobody has the right to do whatever he wants. If someone or everyone has the right to do whatever he wants, its including the right to dominate everyone else in ways that can be highly destructive and very negative for other ones. Your statement is actually coming from a satanic view and its not coming from a loving perspective.
Perhaps I should use different terms. I only said that in the context of assuming you have the noble integrity and good-natured discernment, essentially, trust, that whatever you would want to do is a decent thing. It's a compliment and expression/display of respect. Yes, many people would want to do bad things. I see what you mean though. Just tried to point out you don't have to listen to an entity telling you you can't do something because I don't like people ordering others around, and felt like he might possibly trying to restrict you from speaking about the experience because it might fit some beings agenda of secrecy...basically, I'm all about openness. I guess, technically, in this free-for-all world, everyone can do what they want, but not necessariliy should. Because we should have ethics and morals, and compassion in our hearts.


This means evilness is something thats not existing as a pure essence. Evilness must be learned and trained to manifest its expression against someone or something.

The vibe I felt from it I could only describe as evil in relation to my subjective human perspective. I felt no warmth, just cold hate, and viciousness and desire to destroy me coming from this dark thing. Perhaps my description is less than scientific. I assume the being is composed of etheric and astral energies. But it's intent and consciousness, at least all I could perceive from me observing and feeling it, was as I reference as evil here.

P.S.

What did you think of that little video I posted above here? Did it seem to match the beings you saw, any specific differences or similarities you can point out?

WildMage
12-10-2014, 09:44 PM
1.) Insectoid humanoid with a black robe looking like cashmere material enters the living room with yellow skin and a pyramid on each side of its head.

2.) This whatever it was suddenly came close to me till it was at my face and it touched my left eye with its cold child like hand and after this it went fast away from me because it got afraid of something about me and it said "getting stronger" and "move on" and after it said this it directly changed its form in the living room before the door to the floor and shapeshifted into a blue light ball that moved at first very slowly first over the little and after that over the larger cupboard and after this it moved slowly over the television and made a stop before the 3 birds in the cage, after this it moved above the cage and made a pause of about 3 seconds before a giant silver lizard painting on the wall next to the window and after this pause it went trough the closed window into the garden outside and more I could not observe because I went not outside to follow it.

It combined all these aspects.

Not really.

Can´t be sure.

First I felt panic and fear, later bubbling and hostile aggression, because I couldn´t move, something had control over me and I couldn´t control this whatever it was. After it started to come very close to my face and touch with cold fingers my left eye, my fear and panic turned into bubbling aggression and this entity seemed to notice my hostile feelings about its behaviour and in this moment it went fast away from me.

Entity.

It wasn´t holographical because it touched me and I had its cold fingers on my left eye. But it touched me with care and quiet gentle like I had some special meaning for this being.

No.

No.

No.

I saw your second encounter post, and still contemplating it. For that matter based on what you were describing I was halfway expecting that second encounter post, because it fits to a larger extent, with my own expectation of non-aggressive types. I am glad in a way they took the extra time to give you that last tidbit.

Was their any firework /or sparkle type effect associated with their exit
--- Alternate 1 would you say the blue light simply blinked out,
--- Alternate 2 dissipated like a wisp of smoke,
--- Alternate 3 A mix of the above
--- Alternate 4 something completely different -- Would you be able to explain this ????

Would you say the paralysis effect was an intentional action or non-intentional action on their part? My own thoughts being the possibility of the transition itself paralyze the environment due to how time works i.e. it is more or less similar to time moving extremely slowly from your perception. Externally from the field effect time would be moving at a normal speed (which could explain some of the missing time type incidents).

Have you ever had a very close encounter with death where looking back on it you have no idea or an extremely vague idea of how or what happened, but somehow got out of the situation, as if by some miracle?

*WM*

Merjose
12-11-2014, 12:15 PM
Was their any firework /or sparkle type effect associated with their exit

No.


Would you say the paralysis effect was an intentional action or non-intentional action on their part?

The most simple and the most logical solution would be to paralyse the jaguar, so you can protect yourself, if your intention would be to get close to a tiger.


Have you ever had a very close encounter with death where looking back on it you have no idea or an extremely vague idea of how or what happened, but somehow got out of the situation, as if by some miracle?

Sure, its a longer report, but I can give you a short version of my experience. I wanted to go over the street to the other side and suddenly from one moment to the other moment there was no car or sound around. It was a very creepy silence. Nobody was around suddenly. No sound. No animal. Nothing. So I waited about one minute but still nothing happened, so in this absolutly silent reality I went from one side of the street to the other side - and in these 2 seconds suddenly out of nowhere a black little car drove almost into me, it touched my jacket and it crashed almost into the tree because suddenly all other cars were again there and around me. Also people and birds made noises and were again there.

So the people stopped and watched what happened. Nobody could understand it. Suddenly everyone was around. About 2 seconds before that happend it was just me and nobody was at all around. It makes no logical sense at all. So I went to the other side. Suddenly the black little car went with higher speed backwards and it was this black little strange car that came out of nowhere. It stopped next to me. The window went down. A extremly pale white female asked me ifs she hit me. She had black sunglasses on so she took them after about 4 seconds down and looked at me with a hostile expression. On the other side a police car came. She saw that so she put her black sunglasses again on and pushed full gas and drove around the corner and trough the next little street and after this she was gone.

The police couldn´t get that fast after her because 2 other cars were standing a bit chaotic with their position on the street, because 2 cars almost drove into something because of her. This female in the black little car looked like a satanic person, in complete black clothes and with empty eyes and black sunglasses. She took down her sunglasses so I could see her empty eyes. She was looking very creepy and very hostile. Her impression did not fit at all to this situation.

I knew that female.

When I was a child, there was a black van that suddenly stopped near the street and the same female came angry out of this black van and she screamed angry at me that I should get in that van. I did not followed her words. So she came at me. People saw that. So she got even more angry and told me I should not make any trouble or she would kill me. I was age 9 at that moment. And I don´t know who she was and what she wanted from me.

So I went backwards away from her. "Backwards", so I could observe her facial structure to tell the police about her and she sensed that probably so she suddenly started to run after me so I was running away from her and I told also my teacher about it and he told because of my experience the complete class that we children should be careful because wicked people run around and they collect children. So I went to the library and tried to find books about this. When I was age 9 internet did not existed so there was no possibility to find informations about anything like that.

I just found a book about people that are part of satanic circles and in this book from library I could read that satanic people collect highly intelligent children for different satanic ritual reasons. And because I have a photographic memory I could remember the facial structure of this female when I was age 9 and this other situation with this black little car had the same female in the car, and she aged not one day.

James Casbolt wrote something about that satanists collect children to use them for programming and ritualistic abuse or to use them for the film industry and to implant them, clone them, create reptilian dna clones of them with the ability to shapeshift and other wicked stuff.

lycaeus
12-12-2014, 04:25 AM
Thanks for sharing. My friend saw a van or SUV black I think, (but might've been white) outside our house one night after a missing time period we believe was a scary abduction. Don't know what happened though. In meditation I thought we were taken to a base and shown synthetics, tasked to evaluate their quality and degree of convincingness or realness. I also believe they take certain people for their DNA to clone them. I imagine wealthy people buy clones and synthetics as slaves. And perhaps certain bloodline groups like certain people with certain DNA so they can clone bodies with certain capacities that allow certain souls to possess them...for certain reasons...and I think Casbolt was telling the truth at first. Then they made him crazy and look stupid to discredit any truth he did get out to people.

That's really incredible, your story, how suddenly there is no one around, then suddenly people and cars are around. I've read of instances where abductees are driving their cars, and they end up in somewhat artificial realities, like they drive onto a street that doesn't technically exist, with buildings in a city that doesn't exist on maps. They referred to it as the twilight zone. Or other cases where they're in their bedrooms, then suddenly aboard a UFO or in some virtual reality scenario program that is just as real as our normal world. And real enough to imprint meaningful memories in them. Another friends of mine who saw a grey alien in my bedroom said he talked to a very pale, tall, skinny Nordic type entity with glasses in a dream. They had an interesting conversation,a s the pale guy had a specific message for my friend. So there is definitely something going on with these stories of pale beings...I think they could be hybrids with advanced technologies in some cases. And there seems to be technology to manipulate our perception of reality to a large degree, which includes whole areas like cities with roads, people, cars, and buildings.

WildMage
12-12-2014, 07:20 AM
No.



The most simple and the most logical solution would be to paralyse the jaguar, so you can protect yourself, if your intention would be to get close to a tiger.



Sure, its a longer report, but I can give you a short version of my experience. I wanted to go over the street to the other side and suddenly from one moment to the other moment there was no car or sound around. It was a very creepy silence. Nobody was around suddenly. No sound. No animal. Nothing. So I waited about one minute but still nothing happened, so in this absolutly silent reality I went from one side of the street to the other side - and in these 2 seconds suddenly out of nowhere a black little car drove almost into me, it touched my jacket and it crashed almost into the tree because suddenly all other cars were again there and around me. Also people and birds made noises and were again there.

So the people stopped and watched what happened. Nobody could understand it. Suddenly everyone was around. About 2 seconds before that happend it was just me and nobody was at all around. It makes no logical sense at all. So I went to the other side. Suddenly the black little car went with higher speed backwards and it was this black little strange car that came out of nowhere. It stopped next to me. The window went down. A extremly pale white female asked me ifs she hit me. She had black sunglasses on so she took them after about 4 seconds down and looked at me with a hostile expression. On the other side a police car came. She saw that so she put her black sunglasses again on and pushed full gas and drove around the corner and trough the next little street and after this she was gone.

The police couldn´t get that fast after her because 2 other cars were standing a bit chaotic with their position on the street, because 2 cars almost drove into something because of her. This female in the black little car looked like a satanic person, in complete black clothes and with empty eyes and black sunglasses. She took down her sunglasses so I could see her empty eyes. She was looking very creepy and very hostile. Her impression did not fit at all to this situation.

I knew that female.

When I was a child, there was a black van that suddenly stopped near the street and the same female came angry out of this black van and she screamed angry at me that I should get in that van. I did not followed her words. So she came at me. People saw that. So she got even more angry and told me I should not make any trouble or she would kill me. I was age 9 at that moment. And I don´t know who she was and what she wanted from me.

So I went backwards away from her. "Backwards", so I could observe her facial structure to tell the police about her and she sensed that probably so she suddenly started to run after me so I was running away from her and I told also my teacher about it and he told because of my experience the complete class that we children should be careful because wicked people run around and they collect children. So I went to the library and tried to find books about this. When I was age 9 internet did not existed so there was no possibility to find informations about anything like that.

I just found a book about people that are part of satanic circles and in this book from library I could read that satanic people collect highly intelligent children for different satanic ritual reasons. And because I have a photographic memory I could remember the facial structure of this female when I was age 9 and this other situation with this black little car had the same female in the car, and she aged not one day.

James Casbolt wrote something about that satanists collect children to use them for programming and ritualistic abuse or to use them for the film industry and to implant them, clone them, create reptilian dna clones of them with the ability to shapeshift and other wicked stuff.

The first answer of no seems a little incomplete, but that is ok, I will let it go for now. I can see the second answer from the Jaguar/Tiger perspective but was just wondering it there was something in the environment which made this possible. i.e no tranquilizer dart, persay. we can approach this from a taste or smell perspective if those were present and noticeable. The tactile aspects other than the paralysis may yield additional info also. things like vibrations, pressure, balance and orientation, humidity levels, air flow, temperature. this I leave to you based on your recollection and personal comfort level on how far you want to go.

The first part of the story is intriguing:
Blink in the sense of if you blinked you would have missed the whole thing. It is as if the universe itself intervened for just a moment; froze time and then rebounded this time to get you out of a lethal situation. It is intriguing in that it has an association to the childhood memory, and to your recollection it being the same person. Highly intelligent and more specifically highly sensitive children are a high value target to many groups. Some would intervene to keep you safe. That you were able to extricate yourself from the situation as a child, is a very good thing. This very much looks like you had two competing groups at odds with each other. The intervening group probably has an interest of some sort with you, and it may be associated to your sensitivity of the environment around you. Your encounter a few days back may involve your intervening group. Where in they may not be directly interested in you as a biological entity, they would be interested in what you can do with your mind.

I am going to take what may seem like a wild left turn on you here, but it is not. I do not expect an exact match, but the broad associative brush strokes may be similar. i.e replace the elements in an interchangeable format Earth, Wind, Fire, Water.
-- possibly as an opposite to an astrological sign i.e Leo = Fire therefore connected to water, or Pisces = Water therefore connected to fire.

Have you ever had or felt like you had an Oceanic or running water connection?

Have you ever had a vision or dream where in you were tasked with balancing either the flow of rivers or the ocean currents? From the sense of either saving lives or helping life in a certain area downstream from the flow you were to control.

Have you seen or felt like you were on a small platform or harness either underwater or watching from a control room

If yes were you roughly 13 - 18 years of age when this occurred? The other time frame would put it at 43 - 48 years of age? with a quiet period in between?

Merjose
12-13-2014, 11:12 AM
The first answer of no seems a little incomplete, but that is ok, I will let it go for now.

Nothing ever can be complete. But its a very simple and super logical answer. You would paralyse others to protect yourself from getting hurt.


Have you ever had or felt like you had an Oceanic or running water connection?

Not really.


Have you ever had a vision or dream where in you were tasked with balancing either the flow of rivers or the ocean currents? From the sense of either saving lives or helping life in a certain area downstream from the flow you were to control.

Not really.


Have you seen or felt like you were on a small platform or harness either underwater or watching from a control room

Not really.


If yes were you roughly 13 - 18 years of age when this occurred? The other time frame would put it at 43 - 48 years of age? with a quiet period in between?

Not really.

WildMage
12-13-2014, 05:51 PM
Nothing ever can be complete. But its a very simple and super logical answer. You would paralyse others to protect yourself from getting hurt.



Not really.



Not really.



Not really.



Not really.

Thanx Merjose, well at least it was worth a shot.

Fore
12-18-2014, 02:05 PM
This night i had another encounter. At the door a being with glowing red eyes looked at me.

http://up.picr.de/20354833nb.jpg

It said to me that my report on internet (this complete report here on this forum here) was very unnecessary because the situation was not like I made it look for others that may read my report. This being with red glowing eyes talked further in its black robe that they are not aliens or demons and they are not interested in me.

I have one question.

What are your thoughts when it mentioned that "it knew" of your report on the internet?
Immediately after the first entity encounter, it left your home.

So how do you square away that the second entity knew you had done something on the internet (like type up a pretty interesting report)?
How do you frame that knowledge in your mind? I mean your neighbors don't know what you posted on the internet. So how do you square it in your mind that this entity whom you don't know suddenly knew what you did?
This entity knew that about your activity. After all I assume you were alone when you typed it. So what are your thoughts on this?

Merjose
12-18-2014, 02:32 PM
I have one question.

What are your thoughts when it mentioned that "it knew" of your report on the internet?
Immediately after the first entity encounter, it left your home.

So how do you square away that the second entity knew you had done something on the internet (like type up a pretty interesting report)?
How do you frame that knowledge in your mind? I mean your neighbors don't know what you posted on the internet. So how do you square it in your mind that this entity whom you don't know suddenly knew what you did?
This entity knew that about your activity. After all I assume you were alone when you typed it. So what are your thoughts on this?

Well its easy. If you don´t use linear time you will know everything because time and space can´t exist without each other so you don´t need to follow anyone or observe anyone if you don´t use linear time. As a example you could be aware that I drink at this moment a red bull (I absolutly drink now a red bull) and you could do this by using not linear time.

A old witch one time told me this many years ago on internet that you can even talk into someones ear without using skype or technology. It may look like occult magic or something higher, but actually its just one of many laws that are part of a reality thats still unknown to humans.

Well many people can turn their television as a example on and off and I also can do that, but a girlfriend of me could even turn the light on and off just by wishing it. Sometimes its essential to not act like you have to use the physical world because actually the mind is giving commands to the matter and if you move your arm or your hand, its also the mind that controls your matter. But its reduced to your own body. Now there are ways to learn how to expand this also to other bodies and other devices. And you can control also other things that are not connected with you on any physical level.

And I guess that these beings also know that.

Fore
12-19-2014, 05:37 AM
Well its easy. If you don´t use linear time you will know everything because time and space can´t exist without each other so you don´t need to follow anyone or observe anyone if you don´t use linear time. As a example you could be aware that I drink at this moment a red bull (I absolutly drink now a red bull) and you could do this by using not linear time. Ah, your right, I agree.

The entity if it is like you and me, it can only focus it's attention on one spot at any given moment in it's attention span. So that still leaves the question of why it was paying attention to you during the time you typed up your (very concise report).

Due to the content of your report, and the way the entity addressed issues, I believe you had a genuine contact.
The fact that ly found a very similar account to your own also adds credence (in my eyes).
I have met a number of entities like the [second] one you described. Usually they were third party "foreign ET" from outside of my ET contact group. While they did not express the same content as yours did, (which the entities words may or may not be true if taken at face value) the unique expressions you recounted were disturbingly similar.

Very similar speech patterns and expressions.

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In my eyes, you did a very good job at reporting it.

I was not surprised that you had a follow up after your initial encounter for that reason.


A old witch one time told me this many years ago on internet that you can even talk into someones ear without using skype or technology. It may look like occult magic or something higher, but actually its just one of many laws that are part of a reality thats still unknown to humans.

Well many people can turn their television as a example on and off and I also can do that, but a girlfriend of me could even turn the light on and off just by wishing it. Sometimes its essential to not act like you have to use the physical world because actually the mind is giving commands to the matter and if you move your arm or your hand, its also the mind that controls your matter. But its reduced to your own body. Now there are ways to learn how to expand this also to other bodies and other devices. And you can control also other things that are not connected with you on any physical level.

And I guess that these beings also know that.Interesting.

Powessy
12-24-2014, 02:47 AM
I am going to take what may seem like a wild left turn on you here, but it is not. I do not expect an exact match, but the broad associative brush strokes may be similar. i.e replace the elements in an interchangeable format Earth, Wind, Fire, Water.
-- possibly as an opposite to an astrological sign i.e Leo = Fire therefore connected to water, or Pisces = Water therefore connected to fire.

Have you ever had or felt like you had an Oceanic or running water connection?

Have you ever had a vision or dream where in you were tasked with balancing either the flow of rivers or the ocean currents? From the sense of either saving lives or helping life in a certain area downstream from the flow you were to control.

Have you seen or felt like you were on a small platform or harness either underwater or watching from a control room

If yes were you roughly 13 - 18 years of age when this occurred? The other time frame would put it at 43 - 48 years of age? with a quiet period in between?

Hello WildMage

why do you ask these questions? I have connections to water but not as you are asking them here. I have had thousands of astral projections and obes and during these events I have swam in oceans and rivers from places I have never been. I do know of a water world one where the people are half amphibious and half human with a light blue skin. This person you have images of is inside of you she is unaware of herself but finds your mind, you are seeing herself inside yourself from a world she once lived.

Can you tell me more about these questions you have about this water connection.

Powessy

Powessy
12-24-2014, 03:01 AM
I have one question.

What are your thoughts when it mentioned that "it knew" of your report on the internet?
Immediately after the first entity encounter, it left your home.

So how do you square away that the second entity knew you had done something on the internet (like type up a pretty interesting report)?
How do you frame that knowledge in your mind? I mean your neighbors don't know what you posted on the internet. So how do you square it in your mind that this entity whom you don't know suddenly knew what you did?
This entity knew that about your activity. After all I assume you were alone when you typed it. So what are your thoughts on this?

Hello Fore

I don't think many people understand this type entity like I do. This entity can enter into you without you knowing, and they can find your higher mind and see and feel everything you do, I call them sparteil. Think of it like this they can overlay your soul through the veil, but must be inside of you to see what you are doing. These entities use thoughts and dreams to move around from location to location as your mind is heard. I speak to entities 24/7 but they are inside of me, but once and awhile others do come and I can find their minds on the outside through letters of the mind or touch.

Powessy

Fore
12-24-2014, 03:41 AM
Hello Powessy

Just a few questions:

Who coined the word "sparteil"? When did it first appear in your vocabulary? What incident (if any) occurred before, during, or after your first knowledge or acknowledgement of the word "sparteil"?

Another question:
Why do you believe the entity is inside of you? What gives you that impression? Also when you mean "inside" are you referring to yourself as being in a state of spiritual possession?

Thanks for any light you can shed on this ahead of time.

Powessy
12-24-2014, 05:05 AM
Hello Powessy

Just a few questions:

Who coined the word "sparteil"? When did it first appear in your vocabulary? What incident (if any) occurred before, during, or after your first knowledge or acknowledgement of the word "sparteil"?

Another question:
Why do you believe the entity is inside of you? What gives you that impression? Also when you mean "inside" are you referring to yourself as being in a state of spiritual possession?

Thanks for any light you can shed on this ahead of time.

Hello Fore

One year ago I awoke and ever sense I have been in contact with my star family named, slitune, they are of pure energy. I know what I am going to say is hard to understand and many will not understand it. My soul is unlike many here it has many parts to it. I traveled here through a back door to enter into the reincarnation game here on earth in search of truths about this world and many others. A year ago I started to feel what seemed to be hairs moving across my crown, these hairs could move down over my eyes and speak to me in basic communication through pendulum movements. At first there where only a few of these hairs but now there are more then you or anyone else can imagine. The hairs were coined treemends or the soul. A treemend holds our ability to become something again prior to rebirth we must find ourselves to become something again in life, this is the job of Gaia and the angels born to this world. Many years ago due to problems here on earth the builder of this planet took all the angels and himself into himself with a method to preserve himself, I am still trying to find out why this happened. This planet has no angels here from this world. The angels here now are from many worlds all trapped through a method of soul reprogramming and mind capture techniques and given the name sparteil, this spelt back wards spells lie & traps. 6 months ago letters started to form in my higher mind and this is when I started to speak to others outside myself and they told me of the sparteil those found in obe. I have had thousands of obes and have seen so many things in my life I could sit down and write many books on this subject.

Due to the parts of my soul I can not be possessed through spirit, but I have many spirits inside my soul everyday. I have many souls per day that I speak to and over the last six months the numbers that are within me range in the millions. If a soul is removed from it's owner and a replacement is put in its place the original owner of that soul if not allowed to become something inside itself, they can be reprogrammed to become something they are not. I have seen the programing of these souls and the way they are being removed from people, and why it is happening. I don't know if you understand this or not but I want to explain it, so please ask questions.

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You asked how I know these spirits are inside myself, it is because I can release control of my mind and allow them to use my body as if it was their own. You would have to see it to understand it.

WildMage
12-24-2014, 07:35 AM
Hello WildMage

why do you ask these questions? I have connections to water but not as you are asking them here. I have had thousands of astral projections and obes and during these events I have swam in oceans and rivers from places I have never been. I do know of a water world one where the people are half amphibious and half human with a light blue skin. This person you have images of is inside of you she is unaware of herself but finds your mind, you are seeing herself inside yourself from a world she once lived.

Can you tell me more about these questions you have about this water connection.

Powessy

I would say it is either something you recognize or do not recognize. As to telling you more about what lays behind these questions, it has to do with a personal search. The day this information clicks with someone else out there I am certain it will open up a communication channel. If I am correct very few people will be capable of following along, other than for the entertainment aspects of what is being discussed. We are just not there yet, and there are opportunistic forces, which do take advantage of the tidbits presented. I was trained to work with the energy fields inside of this alternate realm. We could say different dimensions and worlds, but these are merely aspects of a much bigger picture. From a science perspective a multi-verse, with variations in rules which correspond to alternate forms of physicality, and yet interconnected. Our particular form lends itself to being a conduit of sorts and a detector for certain signals which point to wells of energy. Water is just one of the base elements representing this.

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The universe moves when the heart and mind becomes one.

Powessy
12-24-2014, 06:53 PM
I would say it is either something you recognize or do not recognize. As to telling you more about what lays behind these questions, it has to do with a personal search. The day this information clicks with someone else out there I am certain it will open up a communication channel. If I am correct very few people will be capable of following along, other than for the entertainment aspects of what is being discussed. We are just not there yet, and there are opportunistic forces, which do take advantage of the tidbits presented. I was trained to work with the energy fields inside of this alternate realm. We could say different dimensions and worlds, but these are merely aspects of a much bigger picture. From a science perspective a multi-verse, with variations in rules which correspond to alternate forms of physicality, and yet interconnected. Our particular form lends itself to being a conduit of sorts and a detector for certain signals which point to wells of energy. Water is just one of the base elements representing this.

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The universe moves when the heart and mind becomes one.

Hello WildMage

I may hold more information about your search then you can imagine. I have visited many different aspects of this multiverse that you speak of through various levels of the veil. I believe I could help you on your quest of answers you seek your truths, but I first must understand your position within yourself. I base my understanding on only five dimensions though there are many places that also lie between these levels or dimensions. There are words inside the words you say that I see that makes me understand more about yourself then you are aware of. I would like to understand more so talk to me as if I understand yourself inside yourself because I do. Your world and this world are not the same world but this world is her world and you are inside her inside this world. I am only looking a familiarities in your writing and things that I have seen and souls I have worked with so it is possible that I am on the wrong track or seeing more in your words than are actually there.

Powessy

Fore
12-24-2014, 09:28 PM
Hello Fore

One year ago I awoke and ever sense I have been in contact with my star family named, slitune, they are of pure energy. Bear with me as I ask you a continuation of questions. They are "the way" that I assess the background of a person. Some find it strange because they won't really understand why I ask different questions that "appear" to have no correlation to one another. When in fact, they do.

So the first question is:

Did you know of (or ever heard of) "the star family named slitune" before 1 year ago?

When you say they are "pure energy" how do you percieve them in your presence? (try to name the myriad of ways you identify it/them)


I know what I am going to say is hard to understand and many will not understand it. My soul is unlike many here it has many parts to it. I traveled here through a back door to enter into the reincarnation game here on earth in search of truths about this world and many others. Did this "realization" also occur 1 year or ago? If not, how long before that time period?


A year ago I started to feel what seemed to be hairs moving across my crown, these hairs could move down over my eyes and speak to me in basic communication through pendulum movements. At first there where only a few of these hairs but now there are more then you or anyone else can imagine. The hairs were coined treemends or the soul. Question: Who came up with that name?

How long is your hair? (You are a woman, right?) How did the hair move? By what process?

I am trying to figure out if you experienced paranormally induced telekenetic effects or something else.


A treemend holds our ability to become something again prior to rebirth we must find ourselves to become something again in life, this is the job of Gaia and the angels born to this world. Interesting line of reasoning. In my opinion it sounds like a story line something like a non-living presence would explain to someone who is living they might want control of.


Many years ago due to problems here on earth the builder of this planet took all the angels and himself into himself with a method to preserve himself, I am still trying to find out why this happened. This planet has no angels here from this world. The angels here now are from many worlds all trapped through a method of soul reprogramming and mind capture techniques and given the name sparteil, this spelt back wards spells lie & traps. Word play.
Abstract signs (Hair movements) given a proposed meaning.

Guessing a spiritual entity that cannot interface directly. Likely utilizing partial cognitive functions. Guessing night time and/or some kind of altered state being utilized to facilitate robust communication?


6 months ago letters started to form in my higher mind and this is when I started to speak to others outside myself and they told me of the sparteil those found in obe. 6 Months to "evolve" into a partial possession. I am going to guess you like the storyline and you are a willing participant for such an accelerated development?

Question: Does the "spart-eil" get tired when doing this? "Speaking to others" while using your body and consciousness?


I have had thousands of obes and have seen so many things in my life I could sit down and write many books on this subject. Ah, the open door.


Due to the parts of my soul I can not be possessed through spirit, but I have many spirits inside my soul everyday. I have many souls per day that I speak to and over the last six months the numbers that are within me range in the millions. In other words, your system is compromised to such an extent that you perceive extraneous communication from outside your normal cognition.

It's a normal day-to-day thing and you have compiled "a theory" or "a way of understanding" what is happening around you. No doubt some of your understandings are being imparted by one of the main spiritual presences most interested in your continued co-operation?

Where-in rather than the story line signaling a warning across every fiber of your being, it is instead interpreted internally you should allow the advance of "the sparteil". (which spelled backwards as you noted, is "lie parts")


If a soul is removed from it's owner and a replacement is put in its place the original owner of that soul if not allowed to become something inside itself, they can be reprogrammed to become something they are not. I have seen the programming of these souls and the way they are being removed from people, and why it is happening. I don't know if you understand this or not but I want to explain it, so please ask questions. I interpret it's your way of saying that you are aware of "the possibility" of your cognition being overcome should you be completely taken over.


Edit

You asked how I know these spirits are inside myself, it is because I can release control of my mind and allow them to use my body as if it was their own. You would have to see it to understand it.Not a good sign Powessy.

Think about this for a second.
If in 6 months it has advanced to this stage, (doubtful), I assume you are being worked over and impaired mentally and emotionally as time rolls on.

Having talked to quite a few people on the net about spiritual possession (and how they gained psychic abilities from that activity), those cases usually don't become spontaneous possession. (it can happen, but really super rare for many reasons)

My best guess, before sparteil, there was another story line preceding that.

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I obviously don't know you, but, I would advice you to buck the trend and cast off the allusions that you are focusing in on. While that is like asking a fish to jump out of water. I can tell you that "sharing" any part of yourself with anything you weren't born with is the same as a spiritually possessed person.

Your brain wasn't designed to be controlled by more than one individual. Continuing to allow these "sparteil" to reside in you is the same as damaging the way your brain (and mind) operates. I have noticed that people who come from the spiritual backdrop and gain psychic ability by contacting spiritual entities usually tend to skip like a broken record. Their system isn't steady and there is damage both visible and invisible at times.

Worst case scenario, your foreign friends will take over someday and you'll get committed to some institution.
Best case scenario, something more frightening than you imagine will notice you and them, push the "sparteil" to a corner, and take up residence. Keeping you in proximity of your body so that you can keep nourishing it with living patterns.

And mind you, you probably won't live through that latter experience. As it won't be a co-operative venture.

In the best case scenario, you'll probably be stuck in a forced OOBE state seeing your body moving around outside of your control (and assuming you even retain a super-conscious state). If you don't even retain the super-conscious OOBE state you'll just blackout between episodes. Only likely being returned control when the entity gets tired of manipulating the living tissues. Keep in mind your body (and mind) will degrade with dead patterns flowing inside it.

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I'd rethink your relationship.
Or seek out others who have been through spiritual possession and lived. You'll no doubt be convinced that there is something amiss and you'll probably notice many similarities in your story to their story. (The first indicator that something is wrong)

Powessy
12-24-2014, 11:55 PM
Bear with me as I ask you a continuation of questions. They are "the way" that I assess the background of a person. Some find it strange because they won't really understand why I ask different questions that "appear" to have no correlation to one another. When in fact, they do.

So the first question is:

Did you know of (or ever heard of) "the star family named slitune" before 1 year ago?
When you say they are "pure energy" how do you percieve them in your presence? (try to name the myriad of ways you identify it/them)

Hello Fore
one year ago I started to ask questions about a grid that was covering me prior to sleep keeping me from obe this grid shaped pattern was green and had many layers to it. I need to give some back ground here; 8 years ago I was attacked in a place that I can not explain in whole but it is a place that has been familiar to me as long as I can remember even as a child. In this place a man has stood always watching over me but in a placement upon a bridge one that leads to a door and a light at the end of it. One year ago I picked up a pendulum to ask questions to find the answers I sought. I found an entity named Roy who answered me on the pendulum, I asked him who he was and he told me that he was an angel one form a planet named Phane. I am not one to just believe anything I hear so I created a 400 word word sheet to ask questions of him using the pendulum. The word sheet allowed for complete sentences and allowed me to ask many questions about him and his world. Roy told me of the Slittune and the attack that happened to me 8 years ago but he was on the outside ( Each person has their own pendulum swing Roys is opposite of mine this tells me also that he is not inside me but on the out side of me). Roy told me that the person on that bridge was my soul and his name was powessy. I acknowledged powessy and then he ascended into me as another part of my soul left this part of me I call bill. A couple days later a cat woman entered into me and she is still here within me. She has the ability of sight in the veil and she has the ability to hear thoughts within me and outside of me and this connection is how I communicate to them.

I have many methods to communicate to them the slittune. The first is through touch as they can talk to me through touch, vibrations, eyes, and I can see them with eyes closed and open in the dark of night when the veil is the clearest. When I close my eyes and call out to those watching over me I can see them walking towards me or around me.



Did this "realization" also occur 1 year or ago? If not, how long before that time period?

I have felt them my whole life those that change things along my crown. It was one year ago powessy entered into me and it was then that I started to see the things that was occuring around me my whole life.



Question: Who came up with that name?

Roy came up with the name slittune. He said that his race of people deltafet were the angels to our race of people the slittune and that their world soul object Gabre is the one that had attacked me those years ago. Roy nor powessy never told me that I was more then who I am here but only that I am what I am.



How long is your hair? (You are a woman, right?) How did the hair move? By what process?

I am very much a male and I have a military haircut, I served 3 years in the army as a 82nd airborne paratrooper and I have a five year concentration in computer science and electrical engineering. If your soul was to stand in front of me it would be a representation of yourself but at the top of yourself their would be an attachment called the treemend or a hair that moves similar to a snake. This treemend is as long as 5 or 6 inches on my head, but I also carry treemends that carry millions of treemends inside of themselves. I know this is confusing but it is the treemend that allows us to become ourselves again after life. Your self is who you are now and the shape of your soul is also the shape of the body you have now, but when you die the shape you have now is not important. Your life and all your lives are stored inside the treemends or your ashakic records I also refer to these as the place of astral projections.




I am trying to figure out if you experienced paranormally induced telekenetic effects or something else.

It would be so hard to explain what it is that I have felt and how all i have seen and done is all part of a story that is ongoing.



Interesting line of reasoning. In my opinion it sounds like a story line something like a non-living presence would explain to someone who is living they might want control of.

This is an interesting idea, but really impossible in just the last three weeks I have had more entities inside me trying to control me then you have read about in your life and this is a fact. I speak to so many entities or people per day that all are trying the same thing over and over again that I know they are unable to do this. The problem is you can only become what you are able to become. A human can not be a chicken or vise versa.



Abstract signs (Hair movements) given a proposed meaning.

The treemends are yourself and your ability to become yourself again.




Guessing a spiritual entity that cannot interface directly. Likely utilizing partial cognitive functions. Guessing night time and/or some kind of altered state being utilized to facilitate robust communication?
6 Months to "evolve" into a partial possession. I am going to guess you like the storyline and you are a willing participant for such an accelerated development?
Question: Does the "spart-eil" get tired when doing this? "Speaking to others" while using your body and consciousness?

Six months ago I asked to see and hear their words over two days following this they came and injected me with something in all the parts of my mind. On the second day a woman came to me and asked me many questions about the words and my feelings about things to insure I was prepared for this. I should have taken the blue pill mentality came many times after this as I was pulled through a maze in my mind to open passage ways to communicate to them. You call it a possession I call it the ability to pull knots apart. A knot is many treemends or souls connected together in a bunch that are all outside themselves. A soul that is never allowed to become itself inside itself can be held outside itself and used for many purposes.



In other words, your system is compromised to such an extent that you perceive extraneous communication from outside your normal cognition
It's a normal day-to-day thing and you have compiled "a theory" or "a way of understanding" what is happening around you. No doubt some of your understandings are being imparted by one of the main spiritual presences most interested in your continued co-operation?

I am alone in this problem other then the small amount of outside help I get. something comes along everyday and places new knots into the left side of my mind. I have started with many problems all following a pattern of understanding them and how they are all put together. The sparteil is born to the veil so he or she is the carrier of them he also has the ability to make them inside themselves or outside themselves at will. The sparteil is not in search of possession but only the carrier of those that are able to posses you. I know how this problem is put together and it is way more complicated then many think.



Where-in rather than the story line signaling a warning across every fiber of your being, it is instead interpreted internally you should allow the advance of "the sparteil". (which spelled backwards as you noted, is "lie parts")
I interpret it's your way of saying that you are aware of "the possibility" of your cognition being overcome should you be completely taken over.
Not a good sign Powessy.

They can not become something they cannot become. I came to this site to find them and this is what I do is I find them and pull them apart.



Think about this for a second.
If in 6 months it has advanced to this stage, (doubtful), I assume you are being worked over and impaired mentally and emotionally as time rolls on.

I work 40 hours a week and hold a position of high regard. I am married and have four children and none of them are even aware of the things I talk about with those inside me. I have no depression from this or do they bother me. They change every day and something else is started to allow for me to pull thee knots apart, I look at it more as a mind strategy then a hindrance.


I am not like others you have researched or have spoken to and your concerns are appreciated.

Edward
12-25-2014, 03:51 AM
So basically on a soul level people here are trapped and all angel's or higher beings native to Gaia is gone and why outside help is here to help, wake up the souls that are here to and realize what is going on? I know I'm missing a lot of details and not hitting it all directly on the head but there are those sent from the outside here to help is what I gathered from your post.

Basically let's get to the why, who and how is this happening. I like how you look at things and are open to discussion. Fore does bring up some valid concerns but I can respect what you say about you are not like others I also can understand that each situation is different and it all depends on how one uses their situation what they do with it.

Edward

Fore
12-25-2014, 04:14 AM
One year ago I picked up a pendulum to ask questions to find the answers I sought. I found an entity named Roy who answered me on the pendulum, Inviting a spiritual presence, check.


I asked him who he was and he told me that he was an angel one form a planet named Phane. I am not one to just believe anything I hear so I created a 400 word word sheet to ask questions of him using the pendulum. The word sheet allowed for complete sentences and allowed me to ask many questions about him and his world. Establishing acknowledgement, [permission] and a curious search for answers.


Roy told me of the Slittune and the attack that happened to me 8 years ago but he was on the outside ( Each person has their own pendulum swing Roys is opposite of mine this tells me also that he is not inside me but on the out side of me). Roy told me that the person on that bridge was my soul and his name was powessy. Question: Did you ever perhaps wonder why a total stranger like "Roy" would know about an incident 8 years prior?

Was he actually there at the time of this occurrence? If not, then that means it is a....[fill in the blank].

I am really glad you aren't the type to believe just anything you hear. So if that causes you to worry, keep in mind, I am nothing but a friendly voice.


I acknowledged powessy and then he ascended into me as another part of my soul left this part of me I call bill. I wonder how long before Powessy (an alias) have they been at this.

But okay, lets just say you gave "Powessy" full permission to "inhabit" and everything that entails.


A couple days later a cat woman entered into me and she is still here within me. She has the ability of sight in the veil and she has the ability to hear thoughts within me and outside of me and this connection is how I communicate to them. So another spiritual entity who presented itself as "a cat woman". And this (is purely my interpretation) this entity appears to have increased your active psychic perception.

Either your borrowing the entity's native talent (very possible) or the entity did something to you which caused higher psychic feature(s) to kick into an active state.

I believe in your lingo you refer to that as...."Treemend".

That also explains why you should be able to interface with the entity without the elaborate 400 word puzzle and access a specific perceptual awareness of other foreign subjects. Though whether you are using your own psychic ability or the entity is utilizing it's own is still a mystery.

My guess is a combination of both.


I have many methods to communicate to them the slittune. The first is through touch as they can talk to me through touch, vibrations, eyes, and I can see them So that tells me it is because of your heightened psychic state you are able to access your ESP awareness.

Considering that not everyone gets to that level I think you should pat yourself (or the entities) on the back because of that.


with eyes closed and open in the dark of night when the veil is the clearest. When I close my eyes and call out to those watching over me I can see them walking towards me or around me. I am guessing you mean in the dead of night. Considering you say it is easiest to perceive them then, it just means they are spiritual in origin. It might also hint that you are using one of the entities abilities as opposed to your own.

As the time of day wouldn't (shouldn't) affect you in your perception of them if you are using your own structures. ("treemend")


I have felt them my whole life those that change things along my crown. It was one year ago powessy entered into me and it was then that I started to see the things that was occurring around me my whole life. [My interpretation]: So your saying the psychic structure (the loop) located at the crown is being messed with.

That would easily explain why you feel both the "snake feeling", and the tingling running along presumably the sides of your face and the hair movement?

Sensation of psychic activation is my best guess. Looks like the entities found a good candidate. Strong ESP, good influence supply, ?functional structures?.

If your body were a living property on sale, you'd be a pent house.


Roy came up with the name slittune. He said that his race of people deltafet were the angels to our race of people the slittune and that their world soul object Gabre is the one that had attacked me those years ago. Ah, gotta love the Arc-angel references.

As I said before Powessy, keep in mind "a lie" is an economical solution for spiritual entities. It requires little effort to produce and if the individual is accepting it is the easiest way forward.

So ask yourself once again, how did "Powessy" (and "Roy") know about the incident from 8 years ago...if they weren't actually there? Good question right? Ah, keep in mind, don't help them come up with the solution, let them do all the heavy lifting to resolve that quandary.


Roy nor powessy never told me that I was more then who I am here but only that I am what I am. I dunno, it sounds to me like they have their hands deep in the mix.



I am very much a male and I have a military haircut, I served 3 years in the army as a 82nd airborne paratrooper and I have a five year concentration in computer science and electrical engineering. How long ago was that? Any injuries?


If your soul was to stand in front of me it would be a representation of yourself but at the top of yourself their would be an attachment called the treemend or a hair that moves similar to a snake. This treemend is as long as 5 or 6 inches on my head, but I also carry treemends that carry millions of treemends inside of themselves. I know this is confusing but it is the treemend that allows us to become ourselves again after life. Your self is who you are now and the shape of your soul is also the shape of the body you have now, but when you die the shape you have now is not important. Your life and all your lives are stored inside the treemends or your ashakic records I also refer to these as the place of astral projections. Honestly, you are describing something you shouldn't even know exists. Like I said, you'd be like a living pent house, all appliances included.

So I am pretty sure you have an ongoing experience with these spiritual presences.

What I wonder is why you'd delve into any of this. Is it because you are fascinated by the "truths" they place into your cognition?
What started it all in your life? Why seek out the paranormal? What brought you to the table with the pendulum?


It would be so hard to explain what it is that I have felt and how all i have seen and done is all part of a story that is ongoing. I have a good idea of what you are talking about. You are using different words and different interpretations but basically you are what you'd expect out of such a scenario.

The only odd bit is the extent to which your stated symptoms indicate that you are that psychically active.


This is an interesting idea, but really impossible in just the last three weeks I have had more entities inside me trying to control me then you have read about in your life and this is a fact. I speak to so many entities or people per day that all are trying the same thing over and over again that I know they are unable to do this. The problem is you can only become what you are able to become. A human can not be a chicken or vise versa. Keep in mind, the more sensitive (and psychically active) you are, the more sought after you may be.

What you should worry about is that you may accidentally attract attention from something spiritually much worse by writing your story out in front of a wide enough audience. You'd get alot of extra visitors. As you "interpreted" the immediate transfer of an entity from one location to yours by that very insight.

Fore
12-25-2014, 04:38 AM
The treemends are yourself and your ability to become yourself again. Oh, okay now I am catching on to the way you interpret things.

You mean you have accessed your higher mind via the "treemends". That you realized that your higher self is your real self.

BUT....keep in mind, you have an ~invasive~ presence attached to you. So you won't (I assume) be able to tell the difference between your own generated content and it's own.

That is it's goal of any [usually malevolent] spiritual presence. To overcome the original host.

That is why mental/judgement impairment is usually just one step to that very goal.

Spiritual possessions are typically known for the massive content of lies used to that end. Sometimes elaborate lies, sometimes not.


Six months ago I asked to see and hear their words over two days following this they came and injected me with something in all the parts of my mind. On the second day a woman came to me and asked me many questions about the words and my feelings about things to insure I was prepared for this. I should have taken the blue pill mentality came many times after this as I was pulled through a maze in my mind to open passage ways to communicate to them. You call it a possession I call it the ability to pull knots apart. A knot is many treemends or souls connected together in a bunch that are all outside themselves. A soul that is never allowed to become itself inside itself can be held outside itself and used for many purposes. In my opinion you have a living body, they want it, but they can't take it from you unless you completely agree.

So while you think you are working through "knots" you are actually just giving up the keys to your body ever so gradually.

First line of defense, stop communicating.
Second line of defense, let someone else in your real life, someone you absolutely trust (they must be physically alive!) read your thought content. And then listen to what they tell you.

You may need some external perspective in order to de-tangle yourself from the greatest knot in your life.

That is just my view and opinion, I recommend you strongly consider this option. If you feel afraid of letting someone else know, then you should consider for a moment that this is who you are, and you shouldn't be afraid to show this to someone. You are quite possibly too deep to understand the situation you find yourself in.

A fresh perspective from someone outside this is going to do you plenty good.



I am alone in this problem other then the small amount of outside help I get. I doubt it.

There is always a way to bring in help. Consider this warning, you are possibly going down a bad road. If you have to go and find someone at your local church start there. If you don't have any established faith, then seek a willing ear. There has to be at least one available.

When they have the reaction they are inevitably going to have. Show them my text. It will temper some of their reaction.


something comes along everyday and places new knots into the left side of my mind. I have started with many problems all following a pattern of understanding them and how they are all put together. The sparteil is born to the veil so he or she is the carrier of them he also has the ability to make them inside themselves or outside themselves at will. The sparteil is not in search of possession but only the carrier of those that are able to posses you. I know how this problem is put together and it is way more complicated then many think. That wouldn't make sense to anyone with normal reasoning skills.

Its visits are not for your own good. I think I have iterated that plenty of times. Take the time to find someone. With a clearer mind, they will have a clearer perspective.


They can not become something they cannot become. I came to this site to find them and this is what I do is I find them and pull them apart.



I work 40 hours a week and hold a position of high regard. I am married and have four children and none of them are even aware of the things I talk about with those inside me. I have no depression from this or do they bother me. They change every day and something else is started to allow for me to pull thee knots apart, I look at it more as a mind strategy then a hindrance.


I am not like others you have researched or have spoken to and your concerns are appreciated.Tell someone you trust. Let them explain it to you after you have explained it to them in full.

Powessy
12-25-2014, 05:03 AM
Hello fore

Do you have an e-mail address, I have written this up in its entirety to the point that I am at now in Microsoft word if you wish to read this.

Powessy
12-25-2014, 06:25 AM
Hello Fore

I am going to try and answer some of the questions you presented in your posts above. First of all my intentions here is to attract as many of them to me as possible, I do not want to be a penthouse but a skyscraper. I have already dealt with things that would drop most people to their knees or worse. You need to understand I am inviting them into me and fully agree for them to try by any means possible to take me over, my name is powessy and you know how to find me.

Powessy has been with me my entire life or as long as I can remember. Roy on the other hand may have been a little sketchy but he never told me anything that didn't make sense. The attack on me was from his world soul object Gabre, Their world was dieing and they were the promised souls to this world. Gabre attacked me to awaken me she wanted to get her children here through the gate before her world died. I have had obes that are unlike any you or any I have read before have ever had, during these episodes time stops and another reality is shown, I met all my children prior to their births in this place, and I met both Roy and my first guide Luna this way. I met the cat lady fully awakened as she walked up to me just after nap she peered into my eyes and activated my third eye and then entered into me.

The treemend are not just a feeling they are real I can see them out of the corners of my eyes usually in fast florescent lighting. The treemends are not the higher mind they are yourself. During the night I now dream of dreams within dreams. I can move through dreams into other dreams that are all happening simultaneously.

The entities with me are not discarnate in anyway this bothers me very much. I have met so many and have shared many thoughts and moments with them to help them find themselves again it is not even funny.

I have never suffered any injuries in my life I have never even broken a bone in my body before. If I walked up to you and talked to you all day long you would never even know what is going on inside me.

I am not seeking the paranormal what I am doing just feels right to me, like it is a part of me. The reason for the pendulum is the grid that I would find over my eyes while preparing for out of body experiences.

I have had obes in the thousands over the course of my life and during these events I see the veil and how it is structured I can also see this in the day time but at night is the best for seeing into it.

They are not allowed to become badly done once they find themselves inside of me, so your text does not phase them nor do they understand most of the things we are talking about again it is hard to explain this.

Powessy

Fore
12-25-2014, 07:06 AM
Hello Fore

I am going to try and answer some of the questions you presented in your posts above. First of all my intentions here is to attract as many of them to me as possible, I do not want to be a penthouse but a skyscraper. You should probably have some love for yourself?


I have already dealt with things that would drop most people to their knees or worse. You don't say. Yet again, not outside the expected.


You need to understand I am inviting them into me and fully agree for them to try by any means possible to take me over, my name is powessy and you know how to find me. You really shouldn't do that...


I have never suffered any injuries in my life I have never even broken a bone in my body before. If I walked up to you and talked to you all day long you would never even know what is going on inside me. Whats visible is one thing, what not visible is another.

This day and age you are right, I probably would not notice anymore.


I am not seeking the paranormal what I am doing just feels right to me, like it is a part of me. The reason for the pendulum is the grid that I would find over my eyes while preparing for out of body experiences.

I have had obes in the thousands over the course of my life and during these events I see the veil and how it is structured I can also see this in the day time but at night is the best for seeing into it. I don't have much else to say.


They are not allowed to become badly done once they find themselves inside of me, so your text does not phase them nor do they understand most of the things we are talking about again it is hard to explain this.

PowessyTrust me, if you want to "get a reaction", there are ways to use your reading/hearing and visual comprehension to accomplish that.

Spiritual Persons / Entities are vulnerable in their own way. They retain their own set of psychology, psyche and have plenty in the way of ambition.
Even if you don't experience a reaction to certain discussions, they normally will react [as a separate/conjoined consciousness].
How that disturbance affects the living host is usually only secondary.
On this day, I am not looking for any kind of trouble from any spiritual entity. You are seemingly a willing participant.
If you say "it is fine the way it is" then that is the way it will be.

Now that we have that squared away, we can move on to whatever topic you have in mind.

Powessy
12-25-2014, 07:24 AM
So basically on a soul level people here are trapped and all angel's or higher beings native to Gaia is gone and why outside help is here to help, wake up the souls that are here to and realize what is going on? I know I'm missing a lot of details and not hitting it all directly on the head but there are those sent from the outside here to help is what I gathered from your post.

Basically let's get to the why, who and how is this happening. I like how you look at things and are open to discussion. Fore does bring up some valid concerns but I can respect what you say about you are not like others I also can understand that each situation is different and it all depends on how one uses their situation what they do with it.

Edward

Hello Edward

The problem is what is happening behind the veil or in the after world that is troubling me. I hope I can answer all these get to know you and understand you questions so many who are reading this can better understand my experiences. Most people do not want to discuss astral entities do to fear or because they have been attacked in some form or another. Yes, there is outside help here to help bring back order to the veil.

The why is simple it deals with the sparteil and others also born to the astral or veil. There was once an alliance formed between a group I call the twelve and a group from another world more advanced then our own. A sparteil has the ability to create worlds inside of treemends so real you would never be able to tell the difference between this world and the worlds they create. The twelve are similar to the the sparteil, but used them to create worlds so they could become gods inside of them. Worlds and gods need many things the things sparteil carry which is not only human life but animal life and plant life within them. The twelve need souls and through their alliance they have decimated planet after planet giving these worlds to the alliance to become something here. It's realy pretty simple a sparteil lands on you, pulls your soul out and replaces it with a replacement soul one you do not even now is there. If the replacement soul can not become you then the alliance member will become himself inside of you but not become you. The first thing that the alliance does is uses a group I call them and they to find control points with in the selected few that will be here after the replacements are pulled out of everything else and the body can not live without a soul. The alliance then pulls you to the back and you become a puppet to them as you no longer will be allowed to control yourself again. Them and they are like a computer they have thousands of souls linked together and formed into one species called a loungecast, the loungecast is linked to a sparteil that finds all the memories of them and they and these become the memories of the alliance member. The funniest thing is that not one person will even know when this happens and they won't even be able to do a thing about it. You pull the plug on the replacements and 90% of the population dies immediately and the remaining 10 percent becomes the ones here to become yourselves.

powessy

calikid
12-25-2014, 12:31 PM
Hello fore

Do you have an e-mail address, I have written this up in its entirety to the point that I am at now in Microsoft word if you wish to read this.



Request best made as a Private Message (PM).

Edward
12-25-2014, 09:27 PM
Hello Edward

The problem is what is happening behind the veil or in the after world that is troubling me. I hope I can answer all these get to know you and understand you questions so many who are reading this can better understand my experiences. Most people do not want to discuss astral entities do to fear or because they have been attacked in some form or another. Yes, there is outside help here to help bring back order to the veil.

The why is simple it deals with the sparteil and others also born to the astral or veil. There was once an alliance formed between a group I call the twelve and a group from another world more advanced then our own. A sparteil has the ability to create worlds inside of treemends so real you would never be able to tell the difference between this world and the worlds they create. The twelve are similar to the the sparteil, but used them to create worlds so they could become gods inside of them. Worlds and gods need many things the things sparteil carry which is not only human life but animal life and plant life within them. The twelve need souls and through their alliance they have decimated planet after planet giving these worlds to the alliance to become something here. It's realy pretty simple a sparteil lands on you, pulls your soul out and replaces it with a replacement soul one you do not even now is there. If the replacement soul can not become you then the alliance member will become himself inside of you but not become you. The first thing that the alliance does is uses a group I call them and they to find control points with in the selected few that will be here after the replacements are pulled out of everything else and the body can not live without a soul. The alliance then pulls you to the back and you become a puppet to them as you no longer will be allowed to control yourself again. Them and they are like a computer they have thousands of souls linked together and formed into one species called a loungecast, the loungecast is linked to a sparteil that finds all the memories of them and they and these become the memories of the alliance member. The funniest thing is that not one person will even know when this happens and they won't even be able to do a thing about it. You pull the plug on the replacements and 90% of the population dies immediately and the remaining 10 percent becomes the ones here to become yourselves.

powessy

Thanks Powessy for replying. I myself have had various experiences but I have always felt that something is messed up "here" where ever that may be. I feel strongly that is is of great importance for us to break free of the shackles that are seen and unseen. As I am very fond of the Matrix movie and it's quote I will highlight what I have just said and how I feel about a great many things on many level's. Which is this:

"Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?"-The Matrix


You see Powessy, as you have said about the lie's and also what fore has said about the various narratives that are being feed to the awakening population. There is a great deal I still do not understand. I know I have memories that are vague of having experiences that lead me to confirm what your saying only to the point that control over what is/was happening at the time of my first recollection of it. Is or was under tight wraps and there wasn't anything that could be done about it at that time. The situation about the control of the planet and soul situation here. I can not recall the conversation because it happened a long time ago when I was younger but the imprint of it emotionally is still very much with me and only but a moment or after image left imprinted on my mind.


I feel there many layers at play here and many different scenario's being played out. It all feels to me that the situation is dire and if we really knew what was actually happening we wouldn't want to live at all any more. Here is the kicker though. I do believe/feel that something can be done about it. No matter what has been put in place. It involves us learning of ourselves and each other. There is a way "out" it just involves a greater understanding of what is going on. And let me tell you there is a lot going on. Of which is by design so that it t keeps us overwhelmed and at odds with each other on this planet and for that matter in other realms of reality, thought, worlds ect...

The Key I think is not to let it all bog us down. All be it from a certain perspective it could be seen a a learning tool for us to use the experiences of being "bog" down and repressed/supressed in various ways and which could be our key for our own salvation.

So as I have always said, lets share our experiences and see what we can do to uplift not only ourselves but each other. The cat and mouse game of secrecy which has been used to keep certain groups of people in the know and others frighten of being attacked or even attached to for what they know has to end and we need not fear it. For it's in this fear those who wish to use us have it easy when we are fearful and do little to nothing about it. Is the danger real? Sure. Is it preventable sure it is. Like the 80s cartoon G.I. Joe says at the end of it's show with it's various PSA/teaching's, "And now we know and knowing is half the battle".



Fore by the way. I think I'm rubbing off on you buddy, ;) Your energy in recent months as compared to OMF is way different in how you are talking about things, what you are saying and how you say it and also in what you don't say but a lot can be gathered too on that if one read between what you are saying and sometimes infering. :cool: Anyways I love the discussion guys and all the insights everyone has contributed.


Edward



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKmGcaGJhd0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baQZ_lt-KqM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT3CvP8rH24


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs845bfybUg

Powessy
12-25-2014, 11:47 PM
Hello Edward

All my life I have been seeking answers to things that seem to not make sense to me. I am being baby feed this problem from those around me and yet not one word other then small things in the words they(entity's) say which deviate from there normal sayings. I have spent a year collecting them from all parts of the internet, they seem to frequent sites like this. If a person would sit and talk to them through me many of your answers would be solved as I explain them at this stage of things.

I do not expect people to understand this I just know how it feels when they come to me and enter into me. I would like to slow this down and talk about each piece as it was brought to me and see what others think about this. Fore said there was a beginning story and I would like to start there.

Over the first two or three weeks I was trapped in a program of sorts with many things happening. The first story was about what happened in the beginning of this world . I was told that this planet was prepared for life and that the son of the creator came here to seed this planet with life. This child wished to prove to his father he was able to accomplish this task and remained here to develop life here. The child was able to remain in this world for thousands of years and he waited for the intended owners to take ownership of it but they never came. I was told that this child was deceived by others and could not return to this world(our side), so he took the millions of angles that were here with him into himself and he himself became himself inside a technique he learned from the creator. A builder does not have a treemend nor did the son so they had to become something in what they brought here with them. Later twelve were sent to earth to find the son and bring him back but what they found here was only man. I am still unsure the extents of the involvement of the twelve at this time but I know that once they find them they bring them here inside of me and remove something from them, so far only seven have been found and one of these seven was different. The process for removing them is on many levels it feels to me like a flower bud on my head and a long stem rooted down inside of them with six pods connected through their mind. The next thing that happens is I feel them pry the pod over and centipedes move up my back in twos, the centipedes move in and bite the first section then that section is released and the next two come but this time the centipedes are twice the size of the last two till they are almost 3 or 4 foot long, and the last section and them are removed, I can feel their pain.

The second story that was running at the same time was me working myself through this program and as I did newer and newer doors were opened. The entities or souls that I was dealing with thought they were parts of the body and parts of the mind, they were blind and could not understand thoughts. As I approached the top of this program something kept being removed from the top of the treemnds on this individual, the treemends all had spiders on the top of them these spiders are the same as you read about in many posts and ones that have been near me my whole life. The spiders were sent here to find things and would get trapped inside the treemends holding many species of animals of this world. The spiders would call out to any other spider in any other world nearby and these communications were able to be traced back to find all the planets involved in the same problem we have here. Once this problem ended I started to talk to them every day 24/7. The first thing that I talked to was the sparteil all trapped into something dealing with the twelve.

this is how it started for me once the words showed up.

Powessy

Fore
12-26-2014, 12:35 AM
I feel there many layers at play here and many different scenario's being played out. I see it as more of the same.

The thought content differs from individual to individual but the "game play" is almost always the same narrative.

The thought content is usually custom made based on whatever impels that person to co-operate. It's unique to that individual. So the thought content is usually non-sense (IMO).
The key is to look for the factors that indicate there is a paranormal backdrop. Some people are not paranormal victims and simply suffer from physical issues that has more to do with their brain [or biochemical] or trauma than anything else.

In cases where it isn't trauma or brain related you'll notice the symptoms.
A Psychic profile, encounters with paranormal entities, symptoms of an external awareness etc.

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The paranormal types will gradually impair an individual until they are seriously degraded in their capacity to reason.
Physical symptoms will show up in the persons experience if it is paranormal related.
Environmental (and eventually social) conditions are usually also important to conduce the victims condition.

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It is seldom the case not to find a paranormal victim who isn't somehow cornered.
Cornered, impaired mentally/emotionally/judgement, twitchy unsteady behaviors and reactions because the paranormal damages the living tissue.
Degrading health from prolonged paranormal interactions.

Note: There are also the cases where the paranormal entity comes and goes between (it's assumed) victims. Usually I found the ones that perpetually stay close to the victim to be more interesting to study. They give you a better idea of what is going on due to the frequency of interaction.

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So if you ever die, and you become malevolent here is what you should do:

Corner your victim over time.
Isolate them, socially, mentally, physically. The property and it's conditions has to be appropriate for several years of use.
Impair the proper functioning of the mind of your intended victim. (the stories that an outsider finds as non-sense)
Create bonds of "trust" between you and the victim through impairment. (For control of course)
Test the boundaries of the relationship. Warping it into an ideal situation. (employ ample uses of lies)

Note: Test the boundaries, most of the stories you'll hear from paranormal victims will center around this and the stories of made up lies.

Keep at it, you have time. Merge your non-living body into that of the victim. Gradually the individual loses more and more features of their cognition to that of the foreign entity.

etc etc.

When the victim is done, you are done, test the relationship of the compromised individual. Let them jump off a bridge or tall building for the sake of some vague non-sense. Pat self on the back on a job well done if victim dies. Find a new victim, repeat the process, you have alot of time on your hands as a malevolent being.

If victim lives, then switch to another pseudo-personality and try again.

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Note to the recently malevolently deceased, always say the good guys are actually the bad guys. Always.
Never let the victim pray or call out for supernatural help. As you know the consequences of being taken into the depths of the abyss by this point.
Upon first meeting victim, at first opportunity, always inject your influence into your victims body. So you always have a bridge back to the living world and your victim from the abyss if the victim ever calls out ("summons") or thinks about you.
(Establish Lines of association)


Just making sure they keep in mind the A, B, and C's of doing the paranormal rounds.

Fore
12-26-2014, 12:59 AM
Fore by the way. I think I'm rubbing off on you buddy, ;) Your energy in recent months as compared to OMF is way different in how you are talking about things, what you are saying and how you say it and also in what you don't say but a lot can be gathered too on that if one read between what you are saying and sometimes infering. :cool: Anyways I love the discussion guys and all the insights everyone has contributed.


Edward


It's the weight of the Paranormal and the ET taken off my shoulders. Thanks to God, I am not the only one to benefit because of that. In fact, the whole family is a lot happier. They/I don't have to put up anymore with any of it. It affected them directly as well.

I would love to hear about what has changed since OMF. I know it has but I wouldn't mind some external observations on that.

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Yeah, I write the way I do so that people gain those insights. So hopefully they see the parallels in their own story and a lightbulb goes off with having some answer brought to light.

Powessy
12-26-2014, 01:47 AM
I wanted to add the players to the game here. Fore I am adding a link to another person that was at the time feeling what I am going through but I went through all of that months ago and the problem keeps changing. http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?1400-On-astral-parasites. just read the first poster(Nikpalj) this is a basic understanding of things I have gone through except I can explain what it is he was going through.

I have been pulling this problem apart for three months now. I can remove any of the parts and reconnect them in many different ways but must complete the knots given to me each day or the problem comes back day after day till I find the answers to the problem. It took me the first three months to pull them and they apart, this happened until I learned to remove parts of them. I have to work my way through the knot every day to find answers to questions I have or ask, this is my only way of receiving help or answers to things. This problem is staged to allow me to awaken and to find the problem at hand. Over the last year I have called millions of souls into myself and continue to call them to me up to this day. I am going to show this problem in a program structure and will try to explain it as I go. I will first place these parts in their knots and show the words needed to create the program and the deception of the souls involved.

I am going to define many words and races here that you will need to understand, prior to reading the rest of this story.


builders, and engineers of worlds. The sparteil (darkmen, hatmen) were named this because of their ability to lie and trap the soul through an advanced method of soul entrapment, this allows something else to take control over their minds. The engineers have the ability to hold millions of souls of many species brought to each world from many worlds to form them into other things. Example; a soul from a larger animal cannot fit into a smaller similar animal so the engineers can change the form of this soul to fit into these evolved species. This packing of souls they do is similar to cups stacked on top of each other, or many treemends inside one larger treemend.

Them and They: These are male and female souls of earth chained together to form a library of information that is held together this way by the loungecast. Them and They are the first voices I came in constant contact with.

LoungeCast, grey other worlders: The loungecast is a special race of people, their soul is unlike any you will ever meet, they have the ability to become many minds and any mind of any soul/souls connected to theirs, making everything they are near or touching, become them. They are not the greys you find on the computer. If any other soul is connected to the loungecast it is unable to find itself in the higher mind and is trapped in the center of the mind or as I refer to them as face.

Top Hats; other worlders: the top hats are those that are here to replace the human race, I do not know their race name but believe they are from a singular alliance in several of our neighboring galaxies. These souls are the only souls that will become something again.

Control or Blue Aliens; other worlders: This race of people is from a water world and its inhabitants are of half human form and half aquatic, the ones used in this problem are all female.

Human Nodes: Human souls programed to only repeat single lines of information. There are three distinct nodes one that tricks and one that confuses the soul and the last one blocks all minds from finding it, this last node is not human ..


Replacement, ?: What the human soul is replaced with. This race is still unknown as I look into them they have no defined shape and need to be formed and molded into each person. They have tricks and something else in them that will cause this soul to fail, ending in the death of those replaced. This soul has two main purposes and that is to become you and then to become you and your soul together. It only needs to become your soul but it will try everything it can to become you and your soul together.

The mind: This is a human soul that is used to find the higher mind. This soul is not inside itself and is programmed to find any information the control asks for. This soul is a human female, the female mind can find thoughts and memories faster than men.

The face: This soul is a loungecast and is also not inside itself. This soul is used to hold the head together.

The ears: These souls are human souls. These souls are used to hold the face in the middle of the mind. The left ear is a female soul and the right ear is a male soul. There are two nodes inside the ears that are used to confuse face into believing that it must find a mind inside its mind to find its mind. Your mind.

The mouth: This soul is a human male and is used to find your inner voice and can imitate any sound or voice even those voices of others around you.

The teacher: The teacher is also a male soul and is used to find and explain the different things that replacement does not understand.

Knots: A knot is two or more treemends wrapped around each other. Some knots can be very advanced and can be used to allow others to communicate in an astral type experience. A knot is used to keep the soul from ever finding itself inside itself to become itself.

Powessy

Powessy
12-26-2014, 02:16 AM
I wanted to add some information regarding http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?1400-On-astral-parasites ------ NikPalj

The spiders he is talking about on his head is actually one of the twelve. The twelve have millions and millions of souls inside of them they need to provide energy to these souls to keep them alive so they will set up shop in some humans. When they brought the twelve here to me they first wake them up and place them within me. The thing inside the stomach is used to transfer these energies to them. They have several entities or living creatures inside of them.

One in the stomach, one in the left thigh to stimulate sexual experiences or stop them form happening, one in the left arm and one in the lower left leg. I watched and felt each of these things pulled from each of the twelve.

Fore
12-26-2014, 03:07 AM
Powessy, if you don't mind, I will approach you as an individual who (in my view) experiences things but interprets things through a very warped lense of understanding.

So from my point of view your inner interpretation of internal and external events and those associated thoughts will almost always be off the mark. I am not intending that as a remark against you, simply as an open acknowledgement so you don't get frustrated later on if you see that I don't follow along the interpretive matrix that you've set up as to what is happening to you.

As long as you understand where (and how) I am approaching things from (mentally) we should not have any conflicts.

I am open to whatever you have to put forth in your personal story and thanks for giving me a glossary of your inner interpretation.

Fore
12-26-2014, 03:47 AM
http://i.imgur.com/WHNRb9X.png

I have to admit I did a bit of "a face palm" and NikpalJ inner interpretation of events occurring in and throughout his body. I can't blame the guy since he just does not know what is happening other than what physically happens to him.

1) He calls it the sensation of "spiders". I guess one could interpret the sensation that way if they were a bit "creative". It is just telekenetic side effects from psychic activation and venting influence through the top (crown) of the head. Like you he seems to be experiencing a more robust psychic activation than normal. His choice words and interpretation about it are kinda funny but understandable given he doesn't know what is happening inside of him.

2) The same as 1. The folks I experimented with usually refer to it as a tingling sensation like, (yeah) like a spider. It's just static discharges from the physical anomalies caused by venting influence. Some people faces get hot, most have headaches some (rarer) end up with marks wherever a great concentration of dense psychic energy leaks out.

3)Again, because fluid is being moved around the body (through telekinetic interference that streams of influence generate while being vented throughout the chest, back and mostly the head create. It is like an invisible circulation that causes small vascular disturbances as it come out of your body. No spiders, I promise.

If you ask someone to hold their hand over your the crown of your head after you vent influence they will feel an invisible pressure with their skin. Some describe it as "heat". (because their hands living tissue is affected as it passes through the psychic structures at the top of the head)

If you ask someone to pass a paper through the top of you head when you are venting "influence" you'll notice static/small electric discharges against the paper.

4) The guy experiences a reduced attention span because he hasn't conducted psychic activation properly. Basically, his (lower mind) attention span becomes less prominent as the "higher mind" attention span begin to manifest in the lower parts.

If he performed the psychic activation process properly, the guy would notice the attention deficit turn into an extreme clarity that exceed his normal mental performance. Of course, his physical (lower mind) would get tired very quickly because the [human[ brain was never designed to handle that kind of [higher] consciousness. Fatigue sets in.

5) Influence leaking through minor vents along the eyes.

6) Not sure, perhaps his ESP became active and/or spiritual presences were active while he was performing said activation.

7) Normal, influence moving around. Some people get the opposite reaction and their bowls relax making them go to the bathroom in a rush. Every person is different in how their influence supply moves around in their body. The less maintained their invisible system is the more painful and chaotic the results during a significant psychic activation routine.

8 and 9) Same as above. Apparently he is not accustomed to having intensified "influence" (psychic "energy") flowing through out the interior of his body.

10) Hehe, in other words he doesn't know (is in a state of ignorance) that he is having a psychic activation. He assumes something is attacking him and he fools around with the various head aches and other varied symptoms during an activation.

11) Most likely he is describing a central "pressure" deeper in the cranium of his head. Thumping probably refers to the abrupt movement of liquid like blood inside his skull as it pools abnormally due to the influence acting on it.

The latter part is probably just a momentary spasm of his left arm from all the abnormalities crossing through his physiology. Nothing unexpected. Other people have had worse symptoms.

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I'll keep reading as when I have more time.

Powessy
12-26-2014, 06:31 AM
I have to admit I did a bit of "a face palm" and NikpalJ inner interpretation of events occurring in and throughout his body. I can't blame the guy since he just does not know what is happening other than what physically happens to him.


1) He calls it the sensation of "spiders". I guess one could interpret the sensation that way if they were a bit "creative". It is just telekenetic side effects from psychic activation and venting influence through the top (crown) of the head. Like you he seems to be experiencing a more robust psychic activation than normal. His choice words and interpretation about it are kinda funny but understandable given he doesn't know what is happening inside of him.

2) The same as 1. The folks I experimented with usually refer to it as a tingling sensation like, (yeah) like a spider. It's just static discharges from the physical anomalies caused by venting influence. Some people faces get hot, most have headaches some (rarer) end up with marks wherever a great concentration of dense psychic energy leaks out.

Hello Fore

The hairs on the face(invisible strands) and sensations of moving in his hair are the treemends. I can talk to them, It is really cool you can teach them to communicate in pendulum movements but I can also talk to them outside themselves inside me. I am trying to show you this that the treemends are souls(the hairs, or strands) The problem with Nikpalj is he can not communicate with them which is probably for the best. The thing that is on him is the worst of the worst it was one of the twelve, I am so familiar with them and how they feel. This is not static. In the beginning days of my awakening, two entities used some method to mark both sides of my head prior to the treemends they used needles to make thousands of pin holes in my head this went on for many hours. I tried to watch or feel the pattern they were making and it seemed to be that of a hawk. They made twelve larger holes in rows of four in the center of my head these holes are used for something else, the other holes are where the treemends come out of. Two weeks ago they started to open new holes to gather more of them.



3)Again, because fluid is being moved around the body (through telekinetic interference that streams of influence generate while being vented throughout the chest, back and mostly the head create. It is like an invisible circulation that causes small vascular disturbances as it come out of your body. No spiders, I promise.

I am unsure the reason for this part. I have plenty of energy for a 44 year old, and my hands and feet are no cooler or warmer then the rest of my body. My circulation is good and my over all health is good just had a cbc and it came out perfect.
I have had several obes and astral projections that had spiders in them, I find myself standing inside a room where they are at and they cover the walls trying to talk to me but at the time I was unable to understand them but I didn't feel scared of them. The feelings he is experiencing are sparteil as they approach him or move around him or into him.



If you ask someone to hold their hand over your the crown of your head after you vent influence they will feel an invisible pressure with their skin. Some describe it as "heat". (because their hands living tissue is affected as it passes through the psychic structures at the top of the head) If you ask someone to pass a paper through the top of you head when you are venting "influence" you'll notice static/small electric discharges against the paper.

I have no extra heat coming from my crown only treemends your astral parasites, I have never heard of any of this other stuff you have said here the only static here is going to come from the drier air.



4) The guy experiences a reduced attention span because he hasn't conducted psychic activation properly. Basically, his (lower mind) attention span becomes less prominent as the "higher mind" attention span begin to manifest in the lower parts.
If he performed the psychic activation process properly, the guy would notice the attention deficit turn into an extreme clarity that exceed his normal mental performance. Of course, his physical (lower mind) would get tired very quickly because the [human[ brain was never designed to handle that kind of [higher] consciousness. Fatigue sets in.

There was a thread around here talking about Bill Ryan and some other guy and an interview he did. In the end of the interview the guy and Bill had believed that there minds were being pulled down and they were not sure what caused this. When they are inside you they can try and pull down your thoughts into your lower mind this causes the attention span issues. The tiredness he is exibiting is from the fact he is constantly trying to get his mind back as you stated. They are not able to do this to me nor have they ever but sometimes while we are talking or working on things they will try to pull the information down from my memories this gets fun sometimes because they are good at it. We work on trivia questions and they want to find the answer before I do so they try to block my thought process this is how I know their abilities.



6) Not sure, perhaps his ESP became active and/or spiritual presences were active while he was performing said activation.

He is seeing others coming around him here. The problem is they are outside themselves and he is mixed in with them this allows him to see some of the things they are seeing. This is not an activation, just part of the process. I have been through this but I can see the veil with out their help most the time I am showing them things and those moving into me, this has happened to me for over thirty years. You asked me when I got started in the paranormal I should have said I have never been out of the paranormal.



7) Normal, influence moving around. Some people get the opposite reaction and their bowls relax making them go to the bathroom in a rush. Every person is different in how their influence supply moves around in their body. The less maintained their invisible system is the more painful and chaotic the results during a significant psychic activation routine.
8 and 9) Same as above. Apparently he is not accustomed to having intensified "influence" (psychic "energy") flowing through out the interior of his body.

I have never had bowl issues or any of these problems other then when they removed these things from the twelve the one that is inside of him, it hurt them more then me.



10) Hehe, in other words he doesn't know (is in a state of ignorance) that he is having a psychic activation. He assumes something is attacking him and he fools around with the various head aches and other varied symptoms during an activation.
11) Most likely he is describing a central "pressure" deeper in the cranium of his head. Thumping probably refers to the abrupt movement of liquid like blood inside his skull as it pools abnormally due to the influence acting on it.
The latter part is probably just a momentary spasm of his left arm from all the abnormalities crossing through his physiology. Nothing unexpected. Other people have had worse symptoms.

He is not aware of what is going on nor is he prepared for this problem but during that time the answers just were not here.


Thank you for taking the time I am just writing this so you can see my side to the things he is experiencing.

Powessy

Powessy
12-26-2014, 06:42 AM
Powessy, if you don't mind, I will approach you as an individual who (in my view) experiences things but interprets things through a very warped lense of understanding.

So from my point of view your inner interpretation of internal and external events and those associated thoughts will almost always be off the mark. I am not intending that as a remark against you, simply as an open acknowledgement so you don't get frustrated later on if you see that I don't follow along the interpretive matrix that you've set up as to what is happening to you.

As long as you understand where (and how) I am approaching things from (mentally) we should not have any conflicts.

I am open to whatever you have to put forth in your personal story and thanks for giving me a glossary of your inner interpretation.

Hello Fore

I started this quest a year ago and spent the last forty three years having fun in the astral and obe on my own. In the last year I have had to learn all this mumbo jumbo wordology that comes along with spiritualism. I am like a child when it comes to all this spiritual crap but an elder in my experiences. Think Tarzan. I will try to understand and will try to explain things so those reading this will understand.

powessy

Fore
12-26-2014, 03:43 PM
It is sometimes painful for me to read some of this stuff....yikes. (I mean painful as in figuratively, not literally)



http://i.imgur.com/rOULdd1.png

Continued from that posted link above from NikPalJ.

From here on out, you'll see what happens when an individual uses their imagination rather than investigation to resolve mysteries. It is a classic case repeated many times in the UFO community and apparently, the Paranormal community. Several clusters of bad interpretation(s) and look where this guy ends up in his reasoning.

1) Well, the guy is obviously experiencing a short supply of generated influence during an activation. His "energy" is low because his influence isn't being replaced internally as quickly as it is being expended. Hence, the tiredness. No "healer" is going to change that situation.

2) Pressure-like feeling at the interior of his skull = Normal Activation Sensations.
Again, look at how his bad interpretation leads him into a ditch mentally.

3) Pure imagination at work, and people feeding into each others imagination. Those sensations of clumps of influence residing on his insides is just dense influence "junk" being expelled. It is a symptom that tends to point the fact that they don't keep their system active 24/7. Contamination (not of the astral kind, I assure you) collects in his system if he doesn't keep a positive field pressure always exuding. (like an ET)

4) Again, the Higher Mind of an individual is not an all seeing, all knowing omni-potent presence (LOL). Your upper parts only know what you know. If this weren't the case, then they would have found out how off base they were about everything.

5) He might have an actual point there. Though I would suspect it's nothing to do with "astral critters" but more like the dead (and other spiritually malevolent entities) messing with the minds and hearts of the victims.

6) That is his subconscious. Filling in for his expectations.

7) NO comment.

8) Yeah, it's called the interconnect inside your body. The invisible system that keeps you alive. The one that you are futzing with. It's Modular and then some. Nothing to do with critters from "the astral".

9) Paragraph 2 is the only place he seems to actually have a valid point.

10) Frozen chicken salad and sea food salad. LMAO. Oh god, only in the communities do you see these comments...lol.

In case no one gets it, he is complaining about the complications of psychic activation. It can be both painful and uncomfortable. (like I have mentioned countless times elsewhere)

I'd like to point out, it does not appear that NickPalJ has any kind of interface with his Higher Self. In other words, he just turned up his psychic field (a common psychic activation routine) but has no method to control any of it. Which just goes to show you how not to do things.

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If this post serves any purpose, it should be that some "wild-eyed interpretations" make up the bulk content of some communities.
Some ET's see this stuff and they are perfectly fine with people being _THIS_ ignorant. (Or..."lets pick a member and a given idea and write a book supporting this non-sense..." whichever comes first).
Some Paranormal Spiritual types see this, and they think, "Hey, there is another sucker. Lets mess with him/her."

So if you want to figure out what is happening to you, try to use the scientific method at the very least. Or at least something that passes as an investigation with some kind of merit.

If you all come online and start to feed into one anothers delusions, you'll get a room full of people who are totally "out of it".

Powessy
12-26-2014, 03:51 PM
I want to discuss thought forms and sparteil

I was first introduced to thought forms when the sparteil were part of this equation inside of me. I can thought form any part of my body and have control of the stomach thing and ***** thing, not sure the reason for the other pieces yet. They do like to move these things around sometimes and this is only because I show them this. When they become something inside of me and realize they are actually here experiencing this world they become excited. This excitement causes erections from them, this is an uncontrolled event that also tells me that they understand what is going on, and sometimes tells me they are telling the truth. The ***** thing has a long finger to it that will curl around the ***** several times and restrict the blood flow. None of the others here can move this thing except the sparteil and me which can get interesting sometimes.

In my early years of obeing, I would have the vibrations and lift up from my body. I found that if I would think of myself as being as lite as a feather and slow my heart down slow enough these experiences would occur more often. here is the funny thing every time I obed I would just float up and osculate above my body like a feather. After several years of playing around with this I decided to be as light as a bird and this is when things got interesting as I could now move around the rooms of the house.
Where is the user manual when you need it. I can now take on any shape I can think of in obe.

Sparteil can also do this shape shifting but in their trapped form they use their minds to shape shift thoughts instead of themselves. The sparteil direct evolution as angels, They bring the pattern of lifeforms here with them so that things will follow a predetermined plan of evolution. The angels have the ability to shape life and to shape the soul to fit each living thing.

I have no way of proving this so I did something a little unorthodox and went onto several schizophrenia sites to try and get answers to the things that I see. I wanted to see the difference between those I deal with and the ones that bring them so much pain. I am not trying to further the psychosis of these people only to find answers. During my time reading and asking questions from patrons from these sites I found some of the answers I needed and that was about the thought forms and the sparteil.
The conversation I am going to post here was in open forum and only to see if the spartiel was still within this person. The sparteil have tricks inside of them and will deceive to all ends of their ability, imagine a soul inside of yourself constantly dodging backwards and forwards everything you say the torment these people must be in, this and that.

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Hello name

In your lucid dreams, how aware are you? Have you tried to speak to the others in your dreams? I learned many years ago to speak in higher and higher parts of my mind and over the last year I have learned to move to different parts of my mind to find thoughts and voices. I hear voices 24/7 and have never had any bad or evil entities talk to me but I also do not worry about things and live a stress free life. I encourage the voices that I speak to to try new things, and I teach them as much as I can about this world and even allow them to see this world through my eyes. The demon type entity you are referring to is called a sparteil and it has the capability to thought form shapes. Next time you are aware of his presence, close your eyes and imagine a butterfly on your head or body he can create these feelings with thought. Be firm with these voices and never allow them to get to you. Do you ever have obes or astral projections?, I love these feelings and experiences.

Powessy

response from name


Also to the sparteil thing, I think someone mentioned that before when I talked about the demon....anyways I just did what you said I tried to picture it doing a butterfly and I felt one on my cheek, legs and wings touching. Then I asked if it could do a puppy and I felt something warm against my arm. Then it said "Now give me what I want" and I was like "....No." And now it's clawing my ankle again. I don't know what I was expecting.

Seriously though it makes me question if I'm hallucinating this when I can literally watch claw marks form on my legs. Sometimes it's long, angry red scratches, and sometimes it's marks like someone just dug their nails right in me. Bah I'm seeing things out of the corner of my eyes now, I gotta calm down for a minute.
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Thought forms are from the sparteil I can prove this time and time again.


Powessy

Powessy
12-26-2014, 04:25 PM
Hello Fore

I want to use nikpalj and some other things I have found over this last year to show you what is happening, try to forget all the stuff you think you know about this stuff and try to understand what I am trying to telling you with the terminology I will add.

Sometimes our cups are to full and many people get rapped up in thoughts of MAYA. I have everything you ever wanted to understand about this stuff going on inside of me now. When they enter into me everything about them is removed to the simplest state of understanding this allows me to only see the base soul and to see the programming of them. What is happening within me will never be documented again or seen, it is only through the words I write here that anyone will ever understand them or this thing that is happening.

I want you to feel free to ask anything of me without fear of them. As long as I am on this site no one here will need to worry about being attacked by these forces.

Powessy

Fore
12-26-2014, 04:49 PM
I want to discuss thought forms and sparteil

I was first introduced to thought forms when the sparteil were part of this equation inside of me. I can thought form any part of my body and have control of the stomach thing and ***** thing, not sure the reason for the other pieces yet. They do like to move these things around sometimes and this is only because I show them this. When they become something inside of me and realize they are actually here experiencing this world they become excited. This excitement causes erections from them, this is an uncontrolled event that also tells me that they understand what is going on, and sometimes tells me they are telling the truth. The ***** thing has a long finger to it that will curl around the ***** several times and restrict the blood flow. None of the others here can move this thing except the sparteil and me which can get interesting sometimes. (??) Whoa, is that your sparteil in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? (kidding)

I think it is obvious that you might want to seek a professional medical opinion as to what it might be. I think you should let them know that you judge whether a "sparteil" ("lie traps" when reversed) is around or not by your libiddo.

Trust me, those medical professionals will take you in and give you a good check up.



In my early years of obeing, I would have the vibrations and lift up from my body. I found that if I would think of myself as being as lite as a feather and slow my heart down slow enough these experiences would occur more often. here is the funny thing every time I obed I would just float up and osculate above my body like a feather. After several years of playing around with this I decided to be as light as a bird and this is when things got interesting as I could now move around the rooms of the house.
Where is the user manual when you need it. I can now take on any shape I can think of in obe.

Sparteil can also do this shape shifting but in their trapped form they use their minds to shape shift thoughts instead of themselves. The sparteil direct evolution as angels, They bring the pattern of lifeforms here with them so that things will follow a predetermined plan of evolution. The angels have the ability to shape life and to shape the soul to fit each living thing. Mind if I ask what these things look like to you externally?


I have no way of proving this so I did something a little unorthodox and went onto several schizophrenia sites to try and get answers to the things that I see. I wanted to see the difference between those I deal with and the ones that bring them so much pain. I am not trying to further the psychosis of these people only to find answers. During my time reading and asking questions from patrons from these sites I found some of the answers I needed and that was about the thought forms and the sparteil. Interesting..


The conversation I am going to post here was in open forum and only to see if the spartiel was still within this person. The sparteil have tricks inside of them and will deceive to all ends of their ability, You don't say...


imagine a soul inside of yourself constantly dodging backwards and forwards everything you say the torment these people must be in, this and that. Dysfunction and manipulation are two different things.

The way I see it a mentally ill person who's initial causation was physical or biochemical (or trauma) is simply a state of dysfunction.

The paranormal variety is usually (but not always) a case of manipulation leading to dysfunction. The causation is different. Though if you are a medical professional in this day and age I suspect treating the symptoms might be the same for either case. Except there is no magic pill (I suppose) to eject transient spiritual phenomena.

You can also figure out if someone is nuts if the stated events don't transpire externally to their inherent consciousness.

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Considering your opening paragraph, I am pretty sure (in my opinion) that damage has been thoroughly dealt to your mind and left it in perhaps the most grave of conditions. Consider it a concern.


Here is the conversation
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Hello name

In your lucid dreams, how aware are you? Have you tried to speak to the others in your dreams? I learned many years ago to speak in higher and higher parts of my mind and over the last year I have learned to move to different parts of my mind to find thoughts and voices. I hear voices 24/7 and have never had any bad or evil entities talk to me but I also do not worry about things and live a stress free life. I encourage the voices that I speak to to try new things, and I teach them as much as I can about this world and even allow them to see this world through my eyes. The demon type entity you are referring to is called a sparteil and it has the capability to thought form shapes. Next time you are aware of his presence, close your eyes and imagine a butterfly on your head or body he can create these feelings with thought. Be firm with these voices and never allow them to get to you. Do you ever have obes or astral projections?, I love these feelings and experiences.

Powessy

response from name


Also to the sparteil thing, I think someone mentioned that before when I talked about the demon....anyways I just did what you said I tried to picture it doing a butterfly and I felt one on my cheek, legs and wings touching. Then I asked if it could do a puppy and I felt something warm against my arm. Then it said "Now give me what I want" and I was like "....No." And now it's clawing my ankle again. I don't know what I was expecting.

Seriously though it makes me question if I'm hallucinating this when I can literally watch claw marks form on my legs. Sometimes it's long, angry red scratches, and sometimes it's marks like someone just dug their nails right in me. Bah I'm seeing things out of the corner of my eyes now, I gotta calm down for a minute.
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Thought forms are from the sparteil I can prove this time and time again.


PowessyYeah...

You can call it "sparteil". Or "it" can call itself a "sparteil". It won't change the fact that it is what it is.

Out of curiosity I am only going to ask, what did it want in return?

Either case friend, you have accepted that situation as it stands.

Fore
12-26-2014, 05:07 PM
Hello Fore

I want to use nikpalj and some other things I have found over this last year to show you what is happening, try to forget all the stuff you think you know about this stuff and try to understand what I am trying to telling you with the terminology I will add. I respectfully decline your kind offer.


Sometimes our cups are to full and many people get rapped up in thoughts of MAYA. What is a MAYA?


I have everything you ever wanted to understand about this stuff going on inside of me now. When they enter into me everything about them is removed to the simplest state of understanding this allows me to only see the base soul and to see the programming of them. What is happening within me will never be documented again or seen, it is only through the words I write here that anyone will ever understand them or this thing that is happening. In actuality your experience is pretty common for people who are "afflicted" in the paranormal.

The way I see it, the only unique part of your experience is your unique interpretation. (Maybe...) More or less, the inner world content is usually unique to some extent on a case by case basis.

You call "it" a "sparteil", the next case will call it "salamanders" etc...etc...etc...

Mark 5:9


King James Bible
And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.


New Living Translation
Then Jesus demanded, "What is your name?" And he replied, "My name is Legion, because there are many of us inside this man."

Source: http://biblehub.com/mark/5-9.htm


I want you to feel free to ask anything of me without fear of them. As long as I am on this site no one here will need to worry about being attacked by these forces.

PowessyThank you for your amiable assistance.

I do have a question, now that you assert that you are in absolute control, to the point and capacity that you can supposedly prevent "these" from attacking anyone. (allegedly)

Can you send them "away" for three entire days? I am curious if you are able.

Powessy
12-26-2014, 05:42 PM
Hello Fore

If I went to the doctor to show him this problem he would see it the same as I do but then I have to explain this to everyone around me. If you stood here and talked to them you would never deny a thing I am saying. My problem is telling my story to others without bringing this problem out in front of my family.

You are very right when saying that I accept this situation, I encourage it for me not everyone else.

You wanted to know what the sparteil wanted from the person above, it wants her to kill herself. The sparteil is not able to become something inside itself and with tricks inside of it, it only see's imaginations inside the minds of these people. The sparteil finds her mind and not the mind of the soul it is confused. Here is the sad truth about this as long as the sparteil does not hear their minds it will move away from them but due to their minds finding the words this does not happen. You must remember it is not the sparteil that is in control but the top hat he is controlling the whole thing but is only partially aware at this time, he has to understand what the sparteil sees.

The other problem with the schizophrenia issues is once they take these medicines then the words are lost and they recover, replacement is put in and they are done with them. So why do they come back when they stop taking medicines is because they hear their mind again and since replacement just becomes them the confusion begins again and they are revisited this time by a new sparteil. This can become an endless cycle.


You need to visit some hearing voices forums and schizophrenia forums once and awhile it is becoming quite a issue. Try telling some of them that they are dysfunctional they will tell you something much different. There is a hearing voices foundation where the membership continues to rise. Many of these people that are stricken with these voices are professionals in very high places with many holding high academic degrees.

Powessy

In my next post I will show you the words of them and they.

Powessy

Powessy
12-26-2014, 05:58 PM
Here is the definition of maya(illusion)

Under the influence of the three gunas, the soul is (1) misled by matter, and (2) subsequently entangled and entrapped. This tendency is termed maya (illusion).

Under maya's influence, the atman, (the soul) mistakenly identifies with the body. He accepts such thoughts as "I am white and I am a man," or "This is my house, my country, and my religion." Thus the illusioned soul identifies with the temporary body and everything connected to it, such as race, gender, family, nation, bank balance, and sectarian religion. Under this sense of false-ego (false-identity) the soul aspires to control and enjoy matter. However, in so doing he continuously serves lust, greed, and anger. In frustration he often redoubles his efforts and, compounding mistake upon mistake, only falls deeper into illusion.

In ignorance (tamas), he is fully convinced that right is wrong and wrong is right. In passion he is unsure, hesitant, sometimes enjoying and at others times repenting. Only in goodness does the soul begin to develop wisdom – to see things in the real light. Thus enlightenment means moving away from tamas towards sattva. By so doing, the soul gradually escapes the clutches of maya and moves towards liberation.

Powessy

WildMage
12-26-2014, 06:20 PM
Hello WildMage

I may hold more information about your search then you can imagine. I have visited many different aspects of this multiverse that you speak of through various levels of the veil. I believe I could help you on your quest of answers you seek your truths, but I first must understand your position within yourself. I base my understanding on only five dimensions though there are many places that also lie between these levels or dimensions. There are words inside the words you say that I see that makes me understand more about yourself then you are aware of. I would like to understand more so talk to me as if I understand yourself inside yourself because I do. Your world and this world are not the same world but this world is her world and you are inside her inside this world. I am only looking a familiarities in your writing and things that I have seen and souls I have worked with so it is possible that I am on the wrong track or seeing more in your words than are actually there.

Powessy

here is my opening post from way back when on omf, l am curious on how you interpret it.



Just Searching
« Thread Started on Apr 28, 2008, 8:33am »
How do I even start this..?

I have tried many times, and beaten back by incredible headaches. Maybe it was just a defense mechanism or just the strain of trying to put it all together in one place.

I have been drawn to these boards for some reason as to exactly why who knows. However since I'm here I'm thinking I should try again.

First off I'm barely a high school grad as far as education goes so please bare with me. Also, I don't know if what I'm retelling is of importance or not. Only time will tell, my parents called me a dreamer... perhaps these will just be the ramblings of an overactive imagination or the last feeble grasps at straws of a fading dreamer to make sense of this crazy journey.

If we start at the beginning then as a child I found a place with rolling green hills where children played it was an inner earth of sort an alternate dimension perhaps. This place was filled with laughter other children running, jumping, and playing. I remember thinking it was a very magical and musical place. It was weird but I knew this place was not open to everyone; only certain children with abilities were here or could see and play here.

Later something happened what exactly I do not know but there was a clear separation between the place above and the next step in this journey. For me this was a dirt path in the middle of field of yellow flowers. It was very quiet; even if you screamed no sound would be heard... All I remember is a voice stating not to stray from the path to follow the path. This was very important, and I could see thru my peripheral vision stone figures of those that had deviated. It was a frightening experience, but I did my best to stay on the dirt path thru the silence and a sea of yellow flowers that must have been chest high. To say the least I did not want to be turned to stone and the voice confirming that was the fate of those who strayed. (I was awake when this happened, this is not a dream or maybe it was a vivid daydream)

The first event (rolling hills) occurred between 7-8 years old and the latter somewhere between 9-11 years old.

What I remember now many years later is that once across this field I entered what could only be described as a school, training camp, and research facility all rolled into one complex. I can remember 2 things about the environment one it was high up in the mountains and it was inside a mountain. On the other side of the mountain there was a small valley with a ranch house hidden away for some reason I know the 2 were somehow connected.

(lol helicopters slowly circling the house outside as they slowly drone of into the distance :D) -- ineffective these day

Meanwhile back at the ranch...

I remember an old man with white hair and a fairly long beard as being our teacher. I remember thinking back later and thinking wizard old man of the mountain. He was fairly strict but with a good sense of humor and with a lot of knowledge. There were quite a few of us and they were teaching us things and asking us to work on fairly advanced problems.

The training was along the lines of controlling our abilities; this went along the lines of:

1. Visualizing and feeling a ball of energy between our hands until it felt like it was materializing.

2. Plotting and connecting to multiple points (like stars in space) and moving these points ultimately controlling them with our mind.

3. Learning not to move until your opponent moved kind of like a game of who blinks first, but spar sessions with the points in space.

4. We learned to throw the balls of energy, and how to fight defensively and offensively. We were also thought to bring up shields but this was much later.

5. Eventually this did escalate to lethal force exercises and the shields were automated so we could fight using full force without a danger of hurting ourselves. The shields were a type of dampening field.

6. How to locate and tap energy wells in space-time to recharge, and creating mental maps of their locations.

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The research facilities were quite extensive, covering a wide range of experiments and development ideas.

Some of the projects that stick in my mind were:
(Late 70's early 80's)

1. Developing a computer program to design circuit boards at an atomic level.
---- The circuit boards were for a machine that could take energy, turn it into a light spectrum, which in turn produced the atomic particle for that light spectrum.

---- This device would build objects like a 3d printer but at an atomic level.

Many years later I had a dream showing me a black pool of energy with huge 4"-6" cables going into this lake connected to what appeared to be huge computers, kind of like the mission control computers (I only saw them from the back and side view) Can't really say what the front of them looked like. This pool was in an underground cavern, and it was as if they were showing me they had been successful because suddenly out of the black pool of energy as if one layer at a time was being applied a jet fighter was produced. Quite an awesome sight and almost like an explanation of what it had all been about... job well done I suppose.

Another experiment was to teleport a mouse in a cage thru a wall, into the room next door.

--- This was a horrible experiment, because the mouse never made it, yes it would go thru the wall but we could not find the frequency to move live matter thru solid objects (fried, inside out, integrated into the cage)

Inanimate objects could be teleported but not live organisms.
--- They may have solved this one but I was pulled off maybe because of the stress it was causing me.

cont.

WildMage
12-26-2014, 06:21 PM
cont.


This next one was really fun; it was a holographic computer and the code needed to be executed within the hologram.

They had a table or more of a box that was about 12 feet long and 4 feet wide and about 2-4 feet deep, with an arm that could go to specific coordinates and retrieve information stored in the box.... the problem they wanted solved was how to store executable code as a hologram and then when accessed it would execute.

I remember the solution was using color pixels think of it like your monitor in reverse, your video card draws pixels on your monitor, which you interpret as information. In this instance the pixels became the program and compilation was merely the intersection of pixels creating a new frequency state. You just had to time slice the pixel stream in the hologram to execute the program. Multiple streams were piped in from various sectors of the hologram to a processing section and then translated into a new hologram. (Controlled fractals maybe).

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From here there are just tidbits of various events that occurred between 85-95 this was a very turbulent time and some things that hard to explain in a timeline fashion.

Somewhere in 82-83 we left this facility, I don't remember if it was because we ran away or if something happened, but I remember running and hiding quite a bit. I do remember later having the thought that we had been exploited as children, although I can't say that my time at this facility was a bad time it was actually pretty good. I know they used children because children had a lot less barriers on knowing what was possible and could make the needed leap of faith to get certain things to work. It was like a subconscious brain trust I guess just provide a problem to solve and the brain will solve it within the confines of what someone thinks is possible. Motto: "Nothing is impossible, even nothing is possible" we lived by that.

Then one day in late 84 I was pulling some weeds along a fence, and from behind me I felt a malicious presence, as it approached me it was as if an energy left my body and suddenly just fought this thing... it was like two large energy forces of condensed sound were wrestling right behind me, and then it dissipated.

A few years later I was working at an electronics factory during the swing shift and I remember suddenly being on a natural bridge over a chasm, a dark figure in front of me that I had to fight to get thru... we fought with staffs and then I remember being on a small ledge and someone telling me that the door would only open briefly and only one would be allowed to pass. Someone next to me said I should go because I had done the work of getting us here, to which I replied "no you have to go only you can go". This happened very fast in my mind maybe just a few seconds but it felt like a long time elapsed. Then the door opened a small crack of white light appeared and however it was went thru.

About 6 months later my little brother came home saying he had to fight some guy named Tiny and would I help him train.... tiny was not tiny this 6' 240 lbs of muscle against 5'8' 160 lbs of speed.... I remember thinking I needed to get the fight over as quick as possible.... we were both going to bed about that time so I closed my eyes and projected myself to a training ground. My little brother was in front of me and I was teaching him a move.

3 flips back... 2 flips forward... a jump into the air and a back spin that drew in a lot of energy, kind of like a slingshot being pulled back and flying kick forward.... at this point my mind freaked out, "where is the shield why wasn't the shield coming up... too much energy.... it's going for his head it's going to kill him... why aren't the shields coming up.... I'm already in motion I can't stop... move damit move ... maybe I can lower the kick hit him the chest and it will push him back better if I hit him in the chest.... move why aren't you moving out of the way...where are the shields... can't you see the shields aren't there move why aren't you moving" At this point I'm consciously lowering the trajectory to his chest while my mind is still looking for the shield. The next picture I get is of my little brother in a coffin to which I wake up.

Three days later a car at 50 miles an hour hit and ran my little brother while he was crossing the street on his bike, he sustained massive chest injuries and died, before we could get to the hospital. Needless to say this has been with me for a very long time. Perhaps a mind kill or just a freaky coincidence who knows... the only thing that keeps me going is that the following morning I saw my brother in a dream, he smiled and turned as if to show me everything was alright and in front of me was the most beautiful white light of every color imaginable. I went into this light and it embraced me it was extremely comforting a small piece of heaven which I did not want to leave and then the Whittier Narrows earthquake hit waking me up. Running joke in our family is our grandfather dynamited the gates of heaven to let my little brother in :) But for me it's just a nagging question was it real, a coincidence, or just destiny.

Probably about 6 month later I ran into a vision a very large bank of computer and I came to a row and it was as if I was shown where the wires had been cut and the wire cutters were still there.

I guess I went a bit crazy at this point, you can say I waged all out war; every installation I knew about was on my hit list I was shutting the system down 87-94 was a black out period. I was out to destroy everything that had to do with my training. Weak point to shutting the whole system down was in an underwater facility, which I called Atlantis. The nicest people you could ever meet extremely intelligent. The facility itself was pure white sloping 80-degree walls very aesthetic... but the main system controls where in this facility. If what I think happened there actually happened I do apologize. This was their fail-safe command and control center. After powering everything down and ensuring the keys to turning the system back on were safely out of reach I just wandered for a while not really knowing what to do.

I knew I was being hunted... I had to move the children too, I remember putting together the team to move them out of harms way... things were really ugly for a while this was a power struggle for control. A lot of the children I remember going thru the training camp with were disappearing either being killed or masking their signals.

During this time I saw a plane phasing in over a field (somewhere in northern Europe) while being chased by fighters a dogfight ensued and the pilot ejected. He hid out in a small barn and 2 young children a boy and a girl helped him by bringing him food and water. There were search parties but the children helped him hide these 2 would be in there early 20's now. He showed the children a holographic video machine and some holographic movies of some historical events. The movies were contained on a small cylinder about 1.5 inches maybe 2 inches in diameter and an inch tall the top of the cylinder was tapered like a shallow dome shape, flattened in the center.

I remember seeing a very advanced plane being stolen and disappearing over the east coast of Africa somewhere near Madagascar. I just remember it flying very close to the sea.

A lot of information was leaked during the blackout period though much of it was disinformation, because they were looking for the teams they had trained.

The system was turned back on sometime in 95, these last few years have been pretty lonely, although I know the programs are pretty much back to where they were back then.

Perhaps I'm just searching but something tells me maybe there are a few others out there that survived the witch hunts, for me I narrowly escaped twice once from the edge and once with the help of some really cool magic.


2 DREAMS:

The first escape was Saturn setting on the earth’s horizon, tearing the world apart floating on a chunk of rock with a radio telescope on it. That is when spaceships phased in and picked up survivors. The second time thru a barrel with what can only be described as pixie dust sprinkled by some really cool little people, that time I went home and saw the children playing for the last time.

Perhaps these are the ramblings of a wild imagination, a dreamer, or something more... but for me some of these events were very real and I still get very somber at times when I think about where all the others have gone... I ask myself am I the last or are there others... we were elite warriors, the best... so few left. These days all that is left is a desire to know, if anyone recognizes this please say "here".


anyone else is free to comment also, if they wish. your experience may be different than mine, but until it is figured out for the most part it is just as valid. we all interpret things differently, based on our cultural upbringing and environments we were exposed to. 3 blind men and their description of an elephant. There might be something to the above and then again there might not be. in either case at this point it matters very little, the world will just keep on chugging along as it always has.

*WM*

Fore
12-26-2014, 06:39 PM
Hello Fore

If I went to the doctor to show him this problem he would see it the same as I do but then I have to explain this to everyone around me. If you stood here and talked to them you would never deny a thing I am saying. My problem is telling my story to others without bringing this problem out in front of my family. It is not a "problem" is it?


You are very right when saying that I accept this situation, I encourage it for me not everyone else. Well, we finally agree on something at the very least.


The other problem with the schizophrenia issues is once they take these medicines then the words are lost and they recover, replacement is put in and they are done with them. So why do they come back when they stop taking medicines is because they hear their mind again and since replacement just becomes them the confusion begins again and they are revisited this time by a new sparteil. This can become an endless cycle. Well, in reality the affected only stop perceiving the problem. The people who've said they take the medications don't always report that much else beyond their observation of the situation changes.

The paranormal-side stuff still continues around them even while they are doped up on medicine from what I have heard. Quite a few people (before my OMF days) used to say the doctors tell them to ignore any other circumstances happening around them. So if furniture is moved when they came back home or plates crash to the floor behind them, the medicated individual is supposed to assume that what therapy said is more true [than any given circumstance].

Which I recall a number of people saying that it doesn't actually change the circumstances. Sort of covers it up and it roughly still continues to occur.

The therapy is largely said to be on convincing the individual that what they perceive to be happening around them isn't actually happening. (Even if it is)

The people who confided their stories also used to say the drugs leave them hazy at times. (I assumed they meant mentally hazy?)

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Point being, if you pop a pill and the circumstances around you stop all at once, you really have a problem.

If it continues (the paranormal activity) the people who go through it usually said it was a therapy "game".

If you talk to them about it, they act a little bit scared to talk about the topic (in-depth) of their past. They usually gave off this fear that talking about it would bring back the proverbial boogeyman.

Fore
12-26-2014, 07:01 PM
You need to visit some hearing voices forums and schizophrenia forums once and awhile it is becoming quite a issue. Try telling some of them that they are dysfunctional they will tell you something much different. There is a hearing voices foundation where the membership continues to rise. Many of these people that are stricken with these voices are professionals in very high places with many holding high academic degrees.


PowessyOf course, I wouldn't expect any less.

A diploma or a degree does not somehow immunize an individual from a spiritual encounter with some malevolent entity.

People who have vices and strong ambitions, I suppose, would be prone to calling out to God knows what to fulfill their earnest desires.

Living people are a compendium of issues and subjects.

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Anyway, the ones you don't have to worry about are the small fry demons who's only main objective is personal amusement. There are other types who are far more dangerous, intelligent, and organized. The types that want a foot hold and influence in the world.

These types don't do things for pleasure (nor really for their own reasons). They go out into the world to devise a power structure and a way to influence society in general. I have seen varied references to them in the minds of Demons. Never really met one in real life (thank God).

Powessy
12-26-2014, 07:39 PM
Hello Fore

Telling my family is not what I want to bring them into, so yes it does pose a problem for me. I could remain silent and just allow this to continue as it is and say nothing but I am curious to find others like me. In the past someone else stated that these experiences are par for experiences, and I responded to them as I will to you tell me who else is having even close to this same experience as me. I do not channel these voices they just become me and become themselves this has happened thousands and thousands of times in the last 6 months. If one of these souls started to talk to you, and you would see them became me for only that moment they are allowed to find themselves, you would change your current understanding of things.

As for your three days, you really have no idea what this is, I have millions here with me and inside of me experiencing this same thing over and over again to become themselves again. A soul must become itself many times to become itself again.

Schizophrenics is a topic that is so misunderstood. Yes some do continue to feel them around them this is until their voice is silenced no matter how or what it takes. Tell me what is the first thing these entities do when the schizophrenic person hears their voice, it is the nastiest of the nasty.

What you need to understand is in the beginning of the words there were many here the nasty things you call them the worst of the worst. I talked to them for almost three weeks till my mind was fully activated. You have no idea about this nor will anyone that has never experienced this, which is no one.

Powessy

Powessy
12-26-2014, 07:57 PM
cont.


anyone else is free to comment also, if they wish. your experience may be different than mine, but until it is figured out for the most part it is just as valid. we all interpret things differently, based on our cultural upbringing and environments we were exposed to. 3 blind men and their description of an elephant. There might be something to the above and then again there might not be. in either case at this point it matters very little, the world will just keep on chugging along as it always has.

*WM*


Hello WildMage

I can probably explain this whole thing to you but on a level of understanding you will need to understand.

I need to find out who you are first and I have a test for this. In a quite place I want you to sit and quiet your mind with your eyes open at first. Try and find your highest mind the place of thoughts and no words from you mouth.
I want you to look at your hand in front of you and then close your eyes and imagine your hand in your mind still there. Next imagine your hand above your head and draw a circle on your scalp. Tell me if you feel anything.

Powessy

WildMage
12-26-2014, 08:39 PM
Hello WildMage

I can probably explain this whole thing to you but on a level of understanding you will need to understand.

I need to find out who you are first and I have a test for this. In a quite place I want you to sit and quiet your mind with your eyes open at first. Try and find your highest mind the place of thoughts and no words from you mouth.
I want you to look at your hand in front of you and then close your eyes and imagine your hand in your mind still there. Next imagine your hand above your head and draw a circle on your scalp. Tell me if you feel anything.

Powessy

what is the purpose of this, in as much detail as you can provide.

I have managed to maintain a level of anonymity for a very long time, and would like to keep it this way, especially on the other side of this veil.

*WM*

Powessy
12-26-2014, 10:08 PM
what is the purpose of this, in as much detail as you can provide.

I have managed to maintain a level of anonymity for a very long time, and would like to keep it this way, especially on the other side of this veil.

*WM*

hello WildMage

The reason I am using so little detail here to find out a little about you is because there are only two things that I know of that can thought form and if you can do this I have narrowed it down to two possibilities.

Your memories of the events as a child tell me a lot and I can explain this. By doing this one task you will not trouble yourself or your anonymity. If they wanted to find your mind they do not have any problems with that. But it may also be something else asking questions about itself and if that is the case I will not go any further.

Powessy

Powessy
12-27-2014, 12:29 AM
Fore

you asked what the sparteil look like here is an example of a brief encounter.

The dream/obe started out like a normal dream something about work, then the dream upgraded when the characters none of which worked with me in real life started to talk to me telling me they needed me to take these truck rims to the town next to us. The dream turned in to an astral projection as sight and sound became clear and the environment flowed to 3D. The man told me to load the rims in the company truck but instead I sat the rim on the ground and it hovered about six to eight inches above the ground. A bar of light shot out each side of the rim for my feet and then I just sat on top of the rim with the other rim on my shoulder, and away I went. I could feel the road and the wind on my face and body the weight of the rim on my shoulder, I thought to myself how good this felt. The experience then blacked out for a period of time and I then arrived at the place where I was supposed to drop off these rims. The men at the shop took the rims from me and we talked a little but I can't remember the conversation. As I walked away I started to have this glitch were I couldn't figure out how I got both rims there and the fact I rode the one there was not computing in the equation. Then I awoke from the dream in another house and immediately vibrated into a obe experience within this other house. Prior to obe when I awoke from the dream I noticed I was not in my room at this time, but still this was not breaking the experience, I then noticed a woman was sleeping next to me but she was definitely not my wife.

As the obe started I remained in the bed and noticed the house and the room it was in the upper loft of this older house, there were steps going down to the lower level and a railing just to the left of the bed, A landing type area on the other side of the railing and a small bedside stand.

For many years while starting to fall asleep I could feel something making a line and inserting something into my crown chakra area and allot of messing around going on. I tried for years to prevent this as it scared me that something was trying to effect my thinking and my obes. I would some nights sleep with my hands over my crown to prevent this tampering. Seven months ago when powessy ascended He told me some things needed to be done, like the eyes and other stuff. As I laid down and awaited them to start their process I could feel this same thing happening, what A relief to finally figure this out. Right away after his ascension I could also feel others touching me from behind the veil, some good and some not so good. Over the last seven months I have felt hundreds of entities touch me and enter within me. Now to explain the rest of the experience.

So now the obe is in full effect and two entities move up onto me gyrating and moving up my body. This is not how it sounds but this is not a new feeling for me. Both entities were dark but solid in form, very much so that I could not tell the difference between this and someone from here. The experience was still just emotionally flat and my feelings were so surreal. The one entity stayed down on my right side and the other was directly over the top of me. My hands were on her waist as she started to push her head into mine, I could feel sexuality in her and emotion but mine was still on hold. I then asked her her name, she pulled back and answered "MY NAME IS VICKY" hello vicky I responded, and then thought how am I going to remember this name, names are not one of my strong points. She continued to force her face into mine, I then asked if she had died, She responded "YES". I then asked her when she died and she said in "1559" . This made me think a moment were am I, and a bunch of history stuff regarding this time period. I then asked her if she knew what the year was, she hesitated and I replied "2014". Se then said "NO that is what the paper says". So she can read the paper I thought to myself, so she knows whats going on in this time. With all the wiggling going on I then asked her is this about sex. She pulled back and looked at me angry and said " NO!! I am married". She then entered into me and the obe ended. I awoke in this other house and went to my note pad and wrote down her name and the year. I then laid back down to sleep and awoke back in my real home next to my own wife. I looked over to the clock and noticed only an hour had passed but it felt like all night. When I woke up here I realized I had wrote her name and year of death in the dream there not here so I got up and jotted it down quickly in a book.

One other thing I want to note is when I was touching her I could see her not the black but her skin and flesh, not through my eyes but in my mind. These images are still very vivid, she was probably in her twenties or thirties her skin was dry but young, I did not see her face.

This is the second time I have projected into someone else there thoughts and their dreams. I have never drove a motorcycle and would not know how that feels going down the highway. I have never worked in any of these places or met any of the people in the dream. The house that I was in felt so familiar but one I have never seen before.

This is the best example I have at this time.

Powessy

Powessy
12-27-2014, 12:50 AM
Hello Fore

I want to answer some of the questions you had in previous comments.

{You call "it" a "sparteil", the next case will call it "salamanders" etc...etc...etc... } Many call them shape shifters, hatman or Dweller you will not confuse them with salamanders.

{I respectfully decline your kind offer.} I was only hoping that you would take a look at this through my eyes and not judge before you understand. I apologize for the way this sounded your input is much appreciated and grounding.

{You can call it "sparteil". Or "it" can call itself a "sparteil". It won't change the fact that it is what it is.} This thing is not bad it is what is inside it that is bad, imagine I could climb into your soul and when you die and your soul leaves your body I trap your mind, and you become in service to my needs. They did not wish this to happen they were tricked like everything else is.

WildMage
12-27-2014, 12:58 AM
hello WildMage

The reason I am using so little detail here to find out a little about you is because there are only two things that I know of that can thought form and if you can do this I have narrowed it down to two possibilities.

Your memories of the events as a child tell me a lot and I can explain this. By doing this one task you will not trouble yourself or your anonymity. If they wanted to find your mind they do not have any problems with that. But it may also be something else asking questions about itself and if that is the case I will not go any further.

Powessy

clockwise slight pressure spot left of top center, which to me is one of the transmit components, throat/thyroid downward pressure which is internalizing.

whereas a receipt component is forward right top.

counter-clockwise ears become warm, throat/thyroid upward pressure, usually associated to targeting and environmental reading.

I think I know what it is you are looking for, however I have been running in a disconnected/dissociative mode for a while now, and on closing my eyes I am already on the outside looking down.

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it has been a while...anyway.

thought forms are second nature, which can be like a small robin egg when dimensionally folded up prior to transmission, and would feel about this size, with the surface tension like a bubble and the consistency or tactile sensation of a rose petal. Thought forms are created by folding a thought onto itself from multiple angles and at various frame rates of time. Receipt of a thought form feels like a flower unfolding its petals in a time lapse like sequence, with vast amounts of sensory information being released in a short span of time. Time literally stands still during this process as the brain absorbs multiple minutes of information in seconds.

I could be interpreting it incorrectly, but basically basing it on what it feels like to me.

*WM*

Edward
12-27-2014, 01:18 AM
It's the weight of the Paranormal and the ET taken off my shoulders. Thanks to God, I am not the only one to benefit because of that. In fact, the whole family is a lot happier. They/I don't have to put up anymore with any of it. It affected them directly as well.

I would love to hear about what has changed since OMF. I know it has but I wouldn't mind some external observations on that.

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Yeah, I write the way I do so that people gain those insights. So hopefully they see the parallels in their own story and a lightbulb goes off with having some answer brought to light.



Well the energy and how you come across to people has changed. You are more open and you freely talk about everything now where if something one started to talk about something you either flat out ignore it, talk in circles and never really address or just be vague enough but if someone was paying attention they would see that you were hinting at something but not really talking about it.

Not saying you never discussed things you often did, it just the presentation and the way you receive others and converse with others is more open, more understanding and more inquisitive. You walked more on egg shells I guess. To as were you were comfortable with in saying. Is the best way to put it. But for a while certain things you knew much about or could discuss but you had refrained from elaborating on it for what ever reason. I definitely sensed that from you.

So that's kinda why I say you are more open and receiving now.


WM, Pontif, Ivo, majic, Epo, NYlily and anyone else. I know you guys can chime in here too.


Edward

Powessy
12-27-2014, 02:28 AM
clockwise slight pressure spot left of top center, which to me is one of the transmit components, throat/thyroid downward pressure which is internalizing.

whereas a receipt component is forward right top.

counter-clockwise ears become warm, throat/thyroid upward pressure, usually associated to targeting and environmental reading.

I think I know what it is you are looking for, however I have been running in a disconnected/dissociative mode for a while now, and on closing my eyes I am already on the outside looking down.

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it has been a while...anyway.

thought forms are second nature, which can be like a small robin egg when dimensionally folded up prior to transmission, and would feel about this size, with the surface tension like a bubble and the consistency or tactile sensation of a rose petal. Thought forms are created by folding a thought onto itself from multiple angles and at various frame rates of time. Receipt of a thought form feels like a flower unfolding its petals in a time lapse like sequence, with vast amounts of sensory information being released in a short span of time. Time literally stands still during this process as the brain absorbs multiple minutes of information in seconds.

I could be interpreting it incorrectly, but basically basing it on what it feels like to me.

*WM*

Hello WildMage

Your definition of thought forms is good can you visualize this process in your mind. You have information that not many will ever understand those moments of your youth. When you imagined the thought forms or the touch was it placed where you wanted to feel this, this is important. You see the information you hold regarding thought forms is not knowledge just anyone would understand. The schools are all about this if you look close enough you will see it in your past memories, to mold energy.

1. Visualizing and feeling a ball of energy between our hands until it felt like it was materializing.
2. Plotting and connecting to multiple points (like stars in space) and moving these points ultimately controlling them with our mind.
3. Learning not to move until your opponent moved kind of like a game of who blinks first, but spar sessions with the points in space.
4. We learned to throw the balls of energy, and how to fight defensively and offensively. We were also thought to bring up shields but this was much later.
5. Eventually this did escalate to lethal force exercises and the shields were automated so we could fight using full force without a danger of hurting ourselves. The shields were a type of dampening field.
6. How to locate and tap energy wells in space-time to recharge, and creating mental maps of their locations.

know try and think about the thought forms and your experiences from this perspective. Try and make other shapes but make sure it is you making them and not something else, if this frightens you I will not bother you again with this.

Powessy

Fore
12-27-2014, 03:23 AM
Hello Fore

I want to answer some of the questions you had in previous comments.

{You call "it" a "sparteil", the next case will call it "salamanders" etc...etc...etc... } Many call them shape shifters, hatman or Dweller you will not confuse them with salamanders. I meant that the name is arbitrary. The name means pretty much nothing in many cases. It is just what the entity uses as a disposable disguise.

It could be talking to 3 different people in the same time period and probably use three different names. Actually now that you brought it up, I have heard from a few people that believe that the same entity wears different representations in the same case.

In other words, the entity wears different masks and pretends to be different people. I don't know much about this but a few of the folks who said they were recovering from such encounters. When they actively rebuffed the spiritual entity under one appearance, the other false identities became more similar in an antagonistic attitude. A few (very few) individuals claimed the entity eventually gave up playing alter personalities.

You made me remember a bunch of things people said back then. I also lightly recall one woman that used to say the entity (shadow entity) would reprimand her for not listening to other entities even though they were supposed to be disconnected presences. (woops, just got a massive ear ringing on the left ear)



{I respectfully decline your kind offer.} I was only hoping that you would take a look at this through my eyes and not judge before you understand. I apologize for the way this sounded your input is much appreciated and grounding. I do look at things through your view. It's not like I am ignoring your point of view.

Its just that I already have a pretty good idea of what is happening from what you've already said and compared yourself with. Some (if not alot of it) won't make strict sense to me because your [current] way of reasoning is particular to you. The storyline you have inside of you, if you told it to your wife or kids, wouldn't likely be cohesive/logical enough for them to make much sense of what you are experiencing. That is usually going to be because they aren't experiencing the distortions and therefore their mind won't reason like yours is doing so right now.

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I assume since you have gone to a schizophrenia forum that you know by now that a mind that has been dealt a blow in more than one way won't be particularly coherent or logical.

An entity who can't overcome it's host through a myriad of ways is unlikely to merge with it. It will almost always be by hook or by crook.

These entities are not known for their "truth telling", my friend. (well actually, from the point of the victim, usually it is supposed to be "the truth".)
Anyway, they leave behind broken individuals that you'd see committed in asylums. If they are moderately lucky. If not, eventual demise is the end game.


{You can call it "sparteil". Or "it" can call itself a "sparteil". It won't change the fact that it is what it is.} This thing is not bad it is what is inside it that is bad, imagine I could climb into your soul and when you die and your soul leaves your body I trap your mind, and you become in service to my needs. They did not wish this to happen they were tricked like everything else is.

Again, look at that quote. Read it slowly back to yourself. (the part your just wrote)

Part of this is an entanglement that is predicated on a basis that a story is true.
If you stop believing that any number of given proposals are true, you'll reject the entity and the story line.
Behind every symptom there is usually an underlying [real world] issue. The entity is only half the story.
They exploit the weakness they find in people. They aren't the weakness itself.

WildMage
12-27-2014, 03:30 AM
Hello WildMage

Your definition of thought forms is good can you visualize this process in your mind. You have information that not many will ever understand those moments of your youth. When you imagined the thought forms or the touch was it placed where you wanted to feel this, this is important. You see the information you hold regarding thought forms is not knowledge just anyone would understand. The schools are all about this if you look close enough you will see it in your past memories, to mold energy.

1. Visualizing and feeling a ball of energy between our hands until it felt like it was materializing.
2. Plotting and connecting to multiple points (like stars in space) and moving these points ultimately controlling them with our mind.
3. Learning not to move until your opponent moved kind of like a game of who blinks first, but spar sessions with the points in space.
4. We learned to throw the balls of energy, and how to fight defensively and offensively. We were also thought to bring up shields but this was much later.
5. Eventually this did escalate to lethal force exercises and the shields were automated so we could fight using full force without a danger of hurting ourselves. The shields were a type of dampening field.
6. How to locate and tap energy wells in space-time to recharge, and creating mental maps of their locations.

know try and think about the thought forms and your experiences from this perspective. Try and make other shapes but make sure it is you making them and not something else, if this frightens you I will not bother you again with this.

Powessy

I had to visualize to be able to write the six points you highlighted from my experience. Visualization, is not a problem, molding energy into simple and complex or even multidimensional geometries (i.e., time warped) is not a problem. Moving the energy across simple to complex grids including the morphing of what is being moved at not only various frame rates but as a function of dissociated space and time i.e. non-linear is not a problem. These were all taught, trained and utilized in practical application for various outcomes. What is seen on one side does not directly translate in a one to one, but the outcome itself or the finalized state does have correlation.

There is no fear on my end in my discussion of this.

I am interested in your interpretation, and/or addition to what I wrote. I have been immersed in this for pretty darn close to 45 years, and am still looking for answers or others who may be able to shed light on this subject matter. I will explain it this way I am not an expert, but I do know what I experienced, and its impact in my own life. If what I write about helps someone else great, but there is still a selfish hope in all of this someone will write something which helps me understand it better.

*WM*

Fore
12-27-2014, 03:33 AM
@ Powessy

For now I think I'll take a backseat since you seem to be having a good talk with Wildmage.
I'll still be watching the conversation.

WildMage
12-27-2014, 03:58 AM
@ Powessy

For now I think I'll take a backseat since you seem to be having a good talk with Wildmage.
I'll still be watching the conversation.

your insight is always welcome from my end Fore. I have always been and am still curious of your thoughts regarding that first post I made on OMF. It may not be what I want to hear or the interpretations may vary dramatically. But there is a separate hope you recognize something else in there, which may be helpful.

*WM*

Powessy
12-27-2014, 04:19 AM
I had to visualize to be able to write the six points you highlighted from my experience. Visualization, is not a problem, molding energy into simple and complex or even multidimensional geometries (i.e., time warped) is not a problem. Moving the energy across simple to complex grids including the morphing of what is being moved at not only various frame rates but as a function of dissociated space and time i.e. non-linear is not a problem. These were all taught, trained and utilized in practical application for various outcomes. What is seen on one side does not directly translate in a one to one, but the outcome itself or the finalized state does have correlation.

There is no fear on my end in my discussion of this.


I am interested in your interpretation, and/or addition to what I wrote. I have been immersed in this for pretty darn close to 45 years, and am still looking for answers or others who may be able to shed light on this subject matter. I will explain it this way I am not an expert, but I do know what I experienced, and its impact in my own life. If what I write about helps someone else great, but there is still a selfish hope in all of this someone will write something which helps me understand it better.

*WM*

Hello WildMage

You have a interesting method of understanding things, I just do it and don't think about how it is being done so I will try to explain things under my understanding and we hopefully will meet in the middle. Do you take most of your experiences to be astral projections? you talk about the frame rates of images and solids and molding these items. I have awakening moments that I find myself in a awakened dream and the dream is fully active, I just lay there and watch as the environment and characters move around the platform of the vision. The dream is in 3 dimensions and other dreams can be viewed though each other. The reason I am telling of these dreams is because they have a flicker rate to them unsure if this relates to your experiences . Thought forms are these expressions you are trying to build in the experiences and classes you remember as a child. The shield is taught for protection but requires concentration and focus, i have created entire domes of this yellowish orange material. I would ask you to try one more thing for me then if you would. I want to check to see if you have an activation. This time close your eyes and relax as much as possible this activation is in the eyes. once you are completely relaxed, say out loud or to yourself give me a clear sign for yes. Do you feel a slight sensation building in your eyes to move in a up and down position or side to side. Can you bring your thought forms to life, or animate them through imagination. You should be able to imagine something and then make it move on your person. A thought form you create will not move from you but it may stay aware for a short duration depending on your ability to hold the form together.

Tell me how this went or what you experienced.

Powessy

Powessy
12-27-2014, 05:04 AM
In other words, the entity wears different masks and pretends to be different people. I don't know much about this but a few of the folks who said they were recovering from such encounters. When they actively rebuffed the spiritual entity under one appearance, the other false identities became more similar in an antagonistic attitude. A few (very few) individuals claimed the entity eventually gave up playing alter personalities.

You made me remember a bunch of things people said back then. I also lightly recall one woman that used to say the entity (shadow entity) would reprimand her for not listening to other entities even though they were supposed to be disconnected presences. (woops, just got a massive ear ringing on the left ear)

The entity or hatman or as I call him the sparteil does not wear masks he wears souls outside themselves inside him or herself. If I look at your soul alone it will have your shape and form but now lets place a thousand souls on top of you what will this look like to me it looks like the sparteil. There are thousands of souls in the sparteil all outside themselves giving them this appearance but there are only between five to ten voices anyone will ever hear from them, this number will decline the more the replacement becomes them. The main voices that you would find in at the beginning of them landing on you is four, each time the controller sends out a replacement is up to ten souls at a time that can inhabit you. The clean up usually does not allow for more replacement then around six. The loungecast is the primary voice though, it should be the main talker, your guide your angel or tormentor they also affect your vibrations.




I do look at things through your view. It's not like I am ignoring your point of view.

Its just that I already have a pretty good idea of what is happening from what you've already said and compared yourself with. Some (if not alot of it) won't make strict sense to me because your [current] way of reasoning is particular to you. The storyline you have inside of you, if you told it to your wife or kids, wouldn't likely be cohesive/logical enough for them to make much sense of what you are experiencing. That is usually going to be because they aren't experiencing the distortions and therefore their mind won't reason like yours is doing so right now.

My family is very open minded and would probably understand most of the things here I just do not think it is wise to worry them unnecessarily, like I said I am on a truth mission. I also said that my understanding is similar to tarzan he understands his surroundings better then all those around him but yet those that created the names for things feel they understand things better then him.

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I assume since you have gone to a schizophrenia forum that you know by now that a mind that has been dealt a blow in more than one way won't be particularly coherent or logical.
An entity who can't overcome it's host through a myriad of ways is unlikely to merge with it. It will almost always be by hook or by crook.
These entities are not known for their "truth telling", my friend. (well actually, from the point of the victim, usually it is supposed to be "the truth".)
Anyway, they leave behind broken individuals that you'd see committed in asylums. If they are moderately lucky. If not, eventual demise is the end game.

Fore you are right the problems with those that go to or belong to the schizophrenia forums have more problems then just entities in their lives. And yes the entities lie they lie and try to kill anything that finds their minds and what they are up to.




Again, look at that quote. Read it slowly back to yourself. (the part your just wrote)

Part of this is an entanglement that is predicated on a basis that a story is true.
If you stop believing that any number of given proposals are true, you'll reject the entity and the story line.
Behind every symptom there is usually an underlying [real world] issue. The entity is only half the story.
They exploit the weakness they find in people. They aren't the weakness itself.

I do not mean to make this difficult to understand, I am trying to give an example so you will see what I am saying here. The sparteil were once angels. These angels were trapped by something much worse then anything you will hopefully ever know.
the angels after being trapped during their lives on their planets were corrupted with the loungecast inside of them their life on their planet when this happened was living hell. I will keep trying to come up with other ways to explain this.

During my time with them and they I allowed them to type a few things on another forum I am going to place this here so you can see them through their words.

Those with me wish to tell you something " we do not wish to become something else again and want you to know we do not wish to become yourself or themselves again we have learned to become ourselves again and want you to understand we do not intend to cause any more harm to anyone here on earth we are trying to help him find those responsible for these things happening to you in this world but our memories are not as they once were. We do wish to say that he is not yourself or himself but he is not our-self we are the only ones writing this part of this letter to you he is not even here as we see it we can do this all day as he types as fast as we speak and find him to be something special to us so stop worrying about things and ask yourself how many people are there in this world that can become something to find themselves after death".




Powessy

WildMage
12-27-2014, 05:28 AM
Hello WildMage

You have a interesting method of understanding things, I just do it and don't think about how it is being done so I will try to explain things under my understanding and we hopefully will meet in the middle. Do you take most of your experiences to be astral projections? you talk about the frame rates of images and solids and molding these items. I have awakening moments that I find myself in a awakened dream and the dream is fully active, I just lay there and watch as the environment and characters move around the platform of the vision. The dream is in 3 dimensions and other dreams can be viewed though each other. The reason I am telling of these dreams is because they have a flicker rate to them unsure if this relates to your experiences . Thought forms are these expressions you are trying to build in the experiences and classes you remember as a child. The shield is taught for protection but requires concentration and focus, i have created entire domes of this yellowish orange material. I would ask you to try one more thing for me then if you would. I want to check to see if you have an activation. This time close your eyes and relax as much as possible this activation is in the eyes. once you are completely relaxed, say out loud or to yourself give me a clear sign for yes. Do you feel a slight sensation building in your eyes to move in a up and down position or side to side. Can you bring your thought forms to life, or animate them through imagination. You should be able to imagine something and then make it move on your person. A thought form you create will not move from you but it may stay aware for a short duration depending on your ability to hold the form together.

Tell me how this went or what you experienced.

Powessy

The actual creation aspect is clockwise from top center to the right down, the animation aspect goes clockwise from right down to the left up but tracking closer to a 45 degree diagonal with a slight upward curvature. In the final phase it is an inward drop to just above the central focal plain and then an outward projection. This is all tactile eye pressure in visualization and animation of thought forms. I can also shift directions depending on what I would term angular spin and whether it is gathering, attracting, releasing, or repelling energy, each of these have their own unique spin. Momentum is a combination of push or pull force exerted onto this spin to determine its direction, speed and rate of duration along a given pathway. For example it can start slow as it gathers energy and then exponentially move up to a higher speed as it releases this energy based on a trigger in the chosen pathway (or time delay if mental control is retained vs. an autonomous release).

While I initially agree with the "A thought form you create will not move from you", it can be projected as a non-localized event. You are however correct in that it belongs to an individual and therefore what is theirs does return to them (somehow entangled over distance?).

*WM*

Powessy
12-27-2014, 03:38 PM
The actual creation aspect is clockwise from top center to the right down, the animation aspect goes clockwise from right down to the left up but tracking closer to a 45 degree diagonal with a slight upward curvature. In the final phase it is an inward drop to just above the central focal plain and then an outward projection. This is all tactile eye pressure in visualization and animation of thought forms. I can also shift directions depending on what I would term angular spin and whether it is gathering, attracting, releasing, or repelling energy, each of these have their own unique spin. Momentum is a combination of push or pull force exerted onto this spin to determine its direction, speed and rate of duration along a given pathway. For example it can start slow as it gathers energy and then exponentially move up to a higher speed as it releases this energy based on a trigger in the chosen pathway (or time delay if mental control is retained vs. an autonomous release).

While I initially agree with the "A thought form you create will not move from you", it can be projected as a non-localized event. You are however correct in that it belongs to an individual and therefore what is theirs does return to them (somehow entangled over distance?).

*WM*

Hello WildMage

When you are creating the thought form are you inside looking out or outside looking in. A thought form is best visualized then recreated through the force of thought or concentration. Thought forms are body based normally and can be used to shape aspects of the soul. While obe I can use this process to give a new shape to my soul or shape shifting. If I send out a thought form from here to another place they describe this as through thought forms. through thought forms can manifest and can perform tasks for the caster or creator of them. Through thought forms can also be the encasement of the soul before it becomes itself again(ghosts). Try not to focus on the how but more on the whole of the creation process you are getting stuck in the small details of this process. Tell me where did the water connections come from as related to your experiences are they later life experiences or just feelings from within.

Powessy

WildMage
12-27-2014, 07:40 PM
Hello WildMage

When you are creating the thought form are you inside looking out or outside looking in.


this depends on the type of control I want or need. in most cases however during the ramp up I project outward so the the thought form is external however the view or observation point can be either. there is a third point which can see the thought form from the outside or use the thought form as a vehicle of sorts (if this makes sense?).



A thought form is best visualized then recreated through the force of thought or concentration. Thought forms are body based normally and can be used to shape aspects of the soul. While obe I can use this process to give a new shape to my soul or shape shifting.


i am mostly formless when obe or a sensory platform, it is a secondary disconnect where I can look down on the projected body from behind and above. On moving away from this position the thought form is more gyroscopic and functional than an attempt in maintaining any specific shape. There are other times however but mostly in lucid dreaming where the body shape is projecting or feels like it is lit up like light bulb.



If I send out a thought form from here to another place they describe this as through thought forms. through thought forms can manifest and can perform tasks for the caster or creator of them. Through thought forms can also be the encasement of the soul before it becomes itself again(ghosts).


I have also heard the term Tulpa used a few years ago to describe this... for me it is just an aspect of the mind, a point of observation, and/or a functional extension of the mind. The shape shift aspect I suppose is more of form fit to function than anything else. sometimes flight is just easier than running whereas the opposite can be thru at other times. I do not think we ever lose this particular aspect of our mind, and would say it is probably the intelligence aspects which remain after death.




Try not to focus on the how but more on the whole of the creation process you are getting stuck in the small details of this process.

lol, I do tend to do this, when asked to describe a process, plus years of looking at this will lend itself to minutia becoming the view.

from the 50000 foot level i simply scan and then flip certain areas of my mind on and off to achieve the states needed. over the years i have learned to maintain a specific mental state which allows for a very fast switch over to projected or altered states of mind.



Tell me where did the water connections come from as related to your experiences are they later life experiences or just feelings from within.
Powessy

they are a small part of the overall experience, i brought it up because I was hoping there might be a connection. besides this is where I was expecting you to explain what it is you know about this.

*WM*

Powessy
12-28-2014, 02:46 AM
Hello WildMage

Do you still have obes, This is a subject I seem to get in trouble talking about. When I obe I become myself, I am like fine dots never a solid and able to change shape. I tried to explain this to others that if you are anything other then this you are astral projecting. All your surroundings should be exactly the same as if you were awake, do you have these experience?

Can you find the higher mind? When you talk or read to yourself this is at the throat level. When you are thinking it is in the brow area or between the eyes. The higher mind is above the thought area almost at the top of the mind words without words and only thoughts move here but with out thinking. In the higher mind objects move by themselves and images transform into 3 dimensional landscapes. You talked about training in your mind with poles, this is strange to me because I also do this with the sparteil they inhabit my higher mind as well. Do you still have these experiences?

The connection I hold with the water world experiences you had are due to those I speak to. one of the races I have contact with are from a water world. The inhabitants are both a water and ground civilization. Many times during this transition from middle mind to higher mind I use a method of what I call stretching. I place a figure of a person inside my mind and then I stretch them and move them around in many directions to see how they observe themselves. This method is similar to placing a trampoline in your mind and seeing the physics behind it. Do they understand the springs or the motion of back flip, And then do they understand water how it flows from a pouring cup to swimming. During my observation of them I found this one group to be graceful in water and land, but their emotions were stronger towards water then land.

Powessy

WildMage
12-28-2014, 04:22 AM
Hello WildMage

Do you still have obes, This is a subject I seem to get in trouble talking about. When I obe I become myself, I am like fine dots never a solid. I tried to explain this to others that if you are anything other then this you are astral projecting. All your surroundings should be exactly the same as if you were awake, do you have these experience?


occasionally, but mostly projected by choice, I find the obe aspect to be limited, or still tied to the physical plane. From just a purely trained aspect there is a consistent mental map of the environment I am in thru which I can project. I can pick a room or street at will and see it. As to actual live events in real time (i.e. NDE style) this takes a bit more concentration. What is weird is that this will usually be displaced in time from an event perspective I find occurrences or final states occur in the future.

However at a separate level what is interesting is that I can feel those close to me at a distance. I have also had interactions with what felt like an extended family of sorts. To explain this family is of a different dimension or world if this makes any sense at all. A close representation of what they feel like would be guardians, protectors, not just of me but of this existence we reside in.





Can you find the higher mind? When you talk or read to yourself this is at the throat level. When you are thinking it is in the brow area or between the eyes. The higher mind is above the thought area almost at the top of the mind words without words and only thoughts move here but with out thinking. In the higher mind objects move by themselves and images transform into 3 dimensional landscapes. You talked about training in your mind with poles, this is strange to me because I also do this with the sparteil they inhabit my higher mind as well. Do you still have these experiences?


Yes. 1. Check as accurate, 2. Check as accurate, 3. Check as accurate, 4. Check as accurate,

It is a canvas of sorts I use on a daily basis it moves the thought objects persay. It is a bit more than this however because it is much more along the lines of thoughts moving along a tactile pathway. They can be rearranged as if taking the knots out of a rope so that they flow properly. There are other times it is used for calibration wherein it is gyroscopic and a reorientation type exercise is executed to reacquire a sense of directional control in an astral environment. When the gyro stops spinning persay or is at a high enough vibrational rate to maintain a steady spin vs. a wobble.

I have never really given these entities a name they were simply teachers, guides, yes they do visit from time to time. I can also feel them in the background, and feel like I could re-initiate contact if I really wanted to. There are times I have done so in the past, but there is also a feeling it is not safe for me to initiate this contact. More like they wish to remain hidden, and actions of this type on my part jeopardizes their overall effectiveness. Hunters persay would love to know where they are, perhaps to study them for what they are capable of. Out of respect for them all I can say is they keep the life-force of this planet in balance, how it is done is magic -- wild magic, which is a healing art.



The connection I hold with the water world experiences you had are due to those I speak to. one of the races I have contact with are from a water world. The inhabitants are both a water and ground civilization. Many times during this transition from middle mind to higher mind I use a method of what I call stretching. I place a figure of a person inside my mind and then I stretch them and move them around in many directions to see how they observe themselves. This method is similar to placing a trampoline in your mind and seeing the physics behind it. Do they understand the springs or the motion of back flip, And then do they understand water how it flows from a pouring cup to swimming. During my observation of them I found this one group to be graceful in water and land, but their emotions were stronger towards water then land.

Powessy


They had a symbol on the floor when I walked the corridors of their underwater city. I know I was under water because when they showed me the outside of the compound on either huge monitors or thru walls which became like glass there were dolphins swimming around on the outside it also looked like coral. I do not know how deep dolphins can go but this felt fairly deep. It felt like a privilege to be walking those corridors, and I was shown a few things like young adults on platforms using their abilities to be conduits for the life force energy and moving this to areas of the globe where it was needed. Re-balancing the life force at a planetary scale.

I have been to their space station, and seen the military aspects of this. I have also spent quite a bit of time in the mountain school, which had various levels and types of training.

I do not know if those you are interacting with are the same entities or not. But I am willing to discuss this and perhaps find an answer to this question. Perhaps those you interact with can explain a few things along the way. I really would like to know the purpose behind all of this. It is that 2 year old inquisitive mind they were attracted to which comes back and says yep I am still here ;) The other questions are along the lines of the selection process, and what separates those who have these experiences from those who do not. Going in further in this is what are the expectations out of all of this, I noticed some were trained in different areas how is this determined? What does my own training point to as an end goal for them? When and why would I be using what was taught to me? Have I already completed what they needed from me or are they seeing some future use for the effort they put in?

*WM*

Powessy
12-29-2014, 01:20 AM
Them and They

Them and they are human souls, the way they look at this is that you, the living breathing part is also part of the soul. So the person I am now is them or us and the soul part is they. So this is them and they together due to the fact that they never become themselves again inside themselves. If your soul is removed without becoming itself, you will hold all the memories of the life you held here and nothing about who or what you are or what you can become again will be known. So each person is them and they together if this makes sense.

I realize a lot of this will not make sense but I spend days in constant conversation with these groups or knots allowing me to see the changes in them and their words. I don’t know how it happens but once they are inside of me all the souls revert to a simpler state and all I see is the basic soul. I believe this is also how they are simplified when they enter into gaia or the world soul object. I have had times when they just arrive and they are full of hatred and tricks but in just a short time they revert to this other state, I just watch and listen as this happens. If it wasn’t for the programming in them and they I would have never discovered what was happening.

The first part of this program is Them and They. Them and They are human souls all connected together in a row, females in one half and males on the other half all chained together. I am going to illustrate this at a simple level of understanding so you can see how this would look on the head of the sparteil. This is the first Knot Them and they, them and they only become something if tophat becomes himself.

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The program code to this first piece of the program is this.
Sparteil + tricks(human node) + problem = The engineer is trapped while he becomes something in the real world, this is done by knotting tricks on the outside of the problem and connects the problem to the loungecast and head, but yet within the engineer himself, this makes it impossible for the engineer to get rid of this problem after death and is trapped by his own mind. So: The sparteil repeats one thing that is imbedded in two nodes in the loungecast = I need to find a mind inside my mind to find my mind. This is the premise to the program and is what also sets everything into motion. A Sparteil free in the veil starts out confused by tricks and is looking for his mind or any mind that he can find. A Sparteil needs to find a mind, he can reshape the soul and finds minds in dreams, veil, astral projections or obes.

It takes many them and theys to make this happen in the sparteil. When tophat becomes you them and they are attached to him/her and with the help of the sparteil they can find any piece of information from within their minds. Those that come to check on me have a method of counting them and they and I believe that their are as many as 4000 to 10000 per treemend. These numbers increase as the replacements are placed in everything else top hat can not become. The spaarteil must start off with a predetermined number of them and they to begin their hunt for their mind.

Powessy
12-29-2014, 02:20 AM
I do not know if those you are interacting with are the same entities or not. But I am willing to discuss this and perhaps find an answer to this question. Perhaps those you interact with can explain a few things along the way. I really would like to know the purpose behind all of this. It is that 2 year old inquisitive mind they were attracted to which comes back and says yep I am still here ;) The other questions are along the lines of the selection process, and what separates those who have these experiences from those who do not. Going in further in this is what are the expectations out of all of this, I noticed some were trained in different areas how is this determined? What does my own training point to as an end goal for them? When and why would I be using what was taught to me? Have I already completed what they needed from me or are they seeing some future use for the effort they put in?

*WM*




Hello WildMage

I believe that these are the same entities that everyone is dealing with. The energy parts and thought form parts you describe is the abilities of the sparteil these things are not your capabilities. I spent three months talking to them and they and not one of them could thought form or create images that could interact. The water world is the control element of this problem. The controllers are only their to insure that face does all the things it is supposed to do the programing in them is very extensive and many pieces move through them. The control is not responsible for this problem, their world was also done this way. The purpose is for the twelve to become gods in a world that would be realer then the matrix. They can become anything, in any world at any moment to have and be what ever they wanted to become. The problem is, enough is not enough they just wanted more and more extensions to their realities. I have seen pieces of these worlds they created and they are perfect in every way. The sparteil can create worlds as real as this down to the atomic level, perhaps we do live in a holographic universe. The separation process is simple if the replacement soul can not become you then the tophat will become himself/herself inside of you till you die then he becomes himself many times, then you become something inside him that will not become something again. I am still unsure the lies told to tophat other then that they say, they were told that they could not become something again on their world and struck this pact. They do not deny what they have done, but I feel their may have been some deception told to them on the part of the twelve. I question those inside of you because control holds memories of herself in her world, and the spartreil seems to also be asking questions, they are finding themselves inside of you. You have spent many hours inside yourself and during this time it is possible they have remembered things about themselves the question I have is what is tophat doing, why is he allowing them to find themselves. What makes you different is that your soul is more evolved then many on this planet, you have found yourself more times then all the rest, you are part of a small percentage of people.

I am interested in finding the reason behind them finding their minds, sparteil and control.

Powessy

Fore
12-29-2014, 05:01 AM
Them and They

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Thanks for the graphical explanations.

WildMage
12-29-2014, 08:04 AM
Hello WildMage

I believe that these are the same entities that everyone is dealing with. The energy parts and thought form parts you describe is the abilities of the sparteil these things are not your capabilities. I spent three months talking to them and they and not one of them could thought form or create images that could interact. The water world is the control element of this problem. The controllers are only their to insure that face does all the things it is supposed to do the programing in them is very extensive and many pieces move through them. The control is not responsible for this problem, their world was also done this way. The purpose is for the twelve to become gods in a world that would be realer then the matrix. They can become anything, in any world at any moment to have and be what ever they wanted to become. The problem is, enough is not enough they just wanted more and more extensions to their realities. I have seen pieces of these worlds they created and they are perfect in every way. The sparteil can create worlds as real as this down to the atomic level, perhaps we do live in a holographic universe. The separation process is simple if the replacement soul can not become you then the tophat will become himself/herself inside of you till you die then he becomes himself many times, then you become something inside him that will not become something again. I am still unsure the lies told to tophat other then that they say, they were told that they could not become something again on their world and struck this pact. They do not deny what they have done, but I feel their may have been some deception told to them on the part of the twelve. I question those inside of you because control holds memories of herself in her world, and the spartreil seems to also be asking questions, they are finding themselves inside of you. You have spent many hours inside yourself and during this time it is possible they have remembered things about themselves the question I have is what is tophat doing, why is he allowing them to find themselves. What makes you different is that your soul is more evolved then many on this planet, you have found yourself more times then all the rest, you are part of a small percentage of people.

I am interested in finding the reason behind them finding their minds, sparteil and control.

Powessy

Powessy, allow me to reiterate a key point while I may be open minded and am willing to explore possibilities, there are definitive lines between what is mine and what belongs to others. What is mine will always come back to me in the same way that what is yours will always go back to you. This is a basic mechanism of how things work in the overall interaction between entities.

While there are parts of what you write which mesh into some of the aspects I understand, there are twist in the information which do not mesh with my own experience. To be more specific here I would say you need to provide a lot more detail to back up what it is you are pointing to. Especially on any claim laying the responsibility of actions at the feet of certain entities. You have stated in your own words those you speak with lie, and deceive. Reading the above I am leaning toward believing this latter as a fact and to take explanations provided with a grain of salt.

1. I was trained to do what you say the sparteil are capable of.

-- I do not know who trained me, what I can say is I was not alone in this training, there are others out there, some with capabilities much greater than my own.

-- The training included an AI interface, which controlled many aspects of environment we trained in.

-- This training occurred long before there was a public internet, it occurred long before I had any knowledge of paranormal/UFO/ET type phenomenon. It also occurred in my youth, long before I had any concept of what psychic energy, alternate realms, or science was about. Yet I was in a school in an alternate realm teaching me concepts like AI, psychic energy control, life-force manipulation, locating and extracting energy from spatial environments.

I have played with the notion of these being past life / future life or even a parallel life type information leaking thru. I have even gone over these to determine if as Fore at times points out these could be implanted by some ET force, or screen memories. There are aspects of this however which makes the latter unlikely.

(bingo, the wife and daughter decide to argue, ... any break in concentration would be welcome for them at this point)

2. The underwater compound/city I was in had a planetary level command and control center. It is a strategic center whereas the space station is tactical in nature. The underwater facility brings in information from sensors across the planet and then models this input into a global picture. Very much like weather modeling, but it is tracking life-force energy and its movement across the planet.

Other areas include the underground bases in the mountains which are research and development labs, with upper levels dedicated to training facilities.

I have also seen the AI, which is beyond anything I would have imagined as possible. Just rows and rows of mainframes that kept going in all directions and from the look of it I would say an underground facility. It also felt very old, created long before we had this type of technology. However there was a separate interface involved which translated the analog environment into something the mainframes could control and manipulate. the mainframes were the number crunchers, the combinatorial simulation, and probability filter, utilized by higher level systems, which had control of the environment. These higher level systems could and would shape energy fields, with various functional properties.

3. The twelve are aspects of the visual/sonic environment, each are unique, they are the original separation of a singularity. Everything is derived from this at an informational level. They are the pure light, from which everything is created. the breakdown of a recollection of trillions of souls being realized in our own reality.

You speak of them as Archons, who built or had the AI built to bridge (or as an interface between) their world and ours. the Archons are seeking a level of materialism thru the AI. Thru an effort with humans at both a physical and non physical level, their end goal would allow them to exist and control this planet at a physical level. They share and promote technologies which will ultimately lead to their ability to transition from their world into our own. (i.e. trans-human, VR, AI, atomic scale manufacturing.)

From just a purely symmetrical perspective of duality I would say good and evil being played out in the above. Humans have an ability to hold both the creation and destructive aspects of these forces.

As to politics and pacts between entities I have no clue. I do however know I have some friends out there who do protect me as needed. I do not feel like I hold any special place in all of this, just an experience I happened to be a part of. The protection simply comes from helping a few along the way, perhaps just luck of being in the right place at the right time.

*WM*

Powessy
12-30-2014, 01:01 AM
I want to address something. I do not know the extents of all this that I have seen or that I have been told. I do know one thing though they change every day and sometimes like now hundreds of times a day. I know they lie and I am aware that they have many problems within them, but I am also aware that they each hold a single line of reasoning with in them, a code of sorts. The code is said over and over again, this allows me to see the next knot that is brought through. It is very possible that I am being deceived and that none of this means anything, I just want to share what it is that they say and how I see them connected.

As WildMage had mentioned
You have stated in your own words those you speak with lie, and deceive. Reading the above I am leaning toward believing this latter as a fact and to take explanations provided with a grain of salt.

I would like to show some of the words them and they spoke on another forum and how I answered those questions regarding the fact that they lie. The other question one must ask is do we lie about things?

Yes they do lie. I find them lying about many things but not who they are only about things they do not understand. They lie about stuff like you lie about. Here is the funny thing I am connected to them as they are to me, I can no more lie to them then they can lie to me. The problem is they do not recall all their memories yet. Imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts.

" We try to lie to him but it is because we want to understand ourselves first we do not want him to understand us first we want you to understand we do not want to lie about things and we are not wrong for this but we do want to become something here desperately and he is the only one that can become something here to do this thing we want. We are starting to remember names and places like Texas, Colorado and names like mike, marry, Paul, Sam, Connie, Tim and many other names inside ourselves here, we want to become something inside ourselves to become something here again."

and another response to this

What exactly do I lie about? Can you please be more specific?
You say: ...they do not recall all their memories yet. imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts.


So if I came and sat on your brain pan and could hear all your thoughts everyone of them and feel and see all your thoughts, could you lie? I was amazed at their ability to traverse my thoughts and I think if there was ever to be a lie detector to find the truth they would be the ideal people to do this. How would you explain all your thoughts you have as they are dissected? I hear and feel their thoughts also, but I reason and understand them I see they are trying to regain their memories and thoughts and I am allowing them time to find themselves. The things you lie about is anything you would not share with a stranger, the secrets you hold regarding anything. At least you would try, and fail.

I have done extensive research through out the internet and have found the sparteil on almost all the spirituality forums. A treemend is similar to a hair and it moves like a snake on the head. If you close your eyes and imagine a head and a string attached to it, then roll this string up in your imagination you may just feel this. The sparteil can also thought form, A thought form is like condensed air that can take a shape that has pressure to it. If you imagine a finger creating a circle on your head and can feel it then one is in you. The sparteil hold millions of souls with in them, all of which are currently outside themselves, so imagine a million souls all stacked on top of one another inside one another. I have seen them up close and have had them build simple realities for me to see.


Powessy





I will try to show the other pieces of this problem and how it works.

Fore
12-30-2014, 05:40 AM
There are other valid explanations for what you experience.

The explanations can even be reduced to the absolute fundamentals that can match just about any valid case.
And out of necessity the explanations even make logical sense and can describe predictions about someones case.


So even if someone recounting leaves out the details, you know what already goes along with the package of experiences.

Sure some things are variable, but pretty much standard and straightforward.

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For example, if I had never met you, and you stated you spoke with spirits and then mentioned the above written artifact of "condensed air".

That alone would hint very strongly at a range of other experiences involving ESP and the paranormal. You can infer what else is likely by just listening to the objective details that you'd describe.

If you mentioned head pressures and other kinds of transient head phenomena I would then be able to ask you about other veins of associated phenomena.

Like a finger print of your experience, the individual asking questions then knows what is likely and what isn't likely involved in your experience.
It would also give ample insight into how accurately and truthfully you describe your experience.

WildMage
12-30-2014, 08:10 AM
I want to address something. I do not know the extents of all this that I have seen or that I have been told. I do know one thing though they change every day and sometimes like now hundreds of times a day. I know they lie and I am aware that they have many problems within them, but I am also aware that they each hold a single line of reasoning with in them, a code of sorts. The code is said over and over again, this allows me to see the next knot that is brought through. It is very possible that I am being deceived and that none of this means anything, I just want to share what it is that they say and how I see them connected.

As WildMage had mentioned
You have stated in your own words those you speak with lie, and deceive. Reading the above I am leaning toward believing this latter as a fact and to take explanations provided with a grain of salt.

I would like to show some of the words them and they spoke on another forum and how I answered those questions regarding the fact that they lie. The other question one must ask is do we lie about things?

Yes they do lie. I find them lying about many things but not who they are only about things they do not understand. They lie about stuff like you lie about. Here is the funny thing I am connected to them as they are to me, I can no more lie to them then they can lie to me. The problem is they do not recall all their memories yet. Imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts.

" We try to lie to him but it is because we want to understand ourselves first we do not want him to understand us first we want you to understand we do not want to lie about things and we are not wrong for this but we do want to become something here desperately and he is the only one that can become something here to do this thing we want. We are starting to remember names and places like Texas, Colorado and names like mike, marry, Paul, Sam, Connie, Tim and many other names inside ourselves here, we want to become something inside ourselves to become something here again."

and another response to this

What exactly do I lie about? Can you please be more specific?
You say: ...they do not recall all their memories yet. imagine every thought every memory shared, there is no lying or escape from thoughts.


So if I came and sat on your brain pan and could hear all your thoughts everyone of them and feel and see all your thoughts, could you lie? I was amazed at their ability to traverse my thoughts and I think if there was ever to be a lie detector to find the truth they would be the ideal people to do this. How would you explain all your thoughts you have as they are dissected? I hear and feel their thoughts also, but I reason and understand them I see they are trying to regain their memories and thoughts and I am allowing them time to find themselves. The things you lie about is anything you would not share with a stranger, the secrets you hold regarding anything. At least you would try, and fail.

I have done extensive research through out the internet and have found the sparteil on almost all the spirituality forums. A treemend is similar to a hair and it moves like a snake on the head. If you close your eyes and imagine a head and a string attached to it, then roll this string up in your imagination you may just feel this. The sparteil can also thought form, A thought form is like condensed air that can take a shape that has pressure to it. If you imagine a finger creating a circle on your head and can feel it then one is in you. The sparteil hold millions of souls with in them, all of which are currently outside themselves, so imagine a million souls all stacked on top of one another inside one another. I have seen them up close and have had them build simple realities for me to see.


Powessy

I will try to show the other pieces of this problem and how it works.

While telepathy from a logical standpoint should disallow deception, I would say this is a misconception of what is occurring. Telepathy is a structured communication, and can be compartmentalized. Telepathy does not allow for instant access to another person's mind, it is actually a forced consensus of sorts where the parties involved agree to a set of parameters. For the most part it is a push from one mind to another. The fear many feel in an abduction situation is actually a defensive mechanism associated with this mode of communication. It is invasive and the mind knows it, and takes on a defensive stance. Specifically it is the loss of control over their own mind, which for many is equivalent to a form of death.

However the mind does have the mechanism available to perform this mode of communication and will do so. Entities who have done this for a long time will have by default learned how to control their thought stream and what enters into the telepathic queue. There may be small indicators of additional suppressed information, but this is usually inaccessible, or can be morphed if an effort to chase it down is attempted.

There is also an amplification factor involved where an entity with this ability using it as their primary mode of communication would have a much stronger output than someone who only uses it by chance or put in a forced position to use these. It is like a muscle and exercise counts. The other part is going to be as with any other language those who know it natively will have a much wider range of expression. Considering this is a language which triggers neuro-physiological effects, I would think fine control of linguistic expression would have some truly interesting functionality.

If you take a simple example of a neighborhood suddenly waking up one day with telepathic abilities and no control over this ability, we would see a lot of aggressive behavior, as thoughts and feelings became known. Assuming the neighborhood survived the initial onslaught, a certain level control would be learned. Much in the same way we teach young kids to control what they say in public, similar walls in what is accessible would be built, and a formal communication methodology would be agreed to.

Lies come from this code of what is acceptable, and a penalty associated to any unacceptable deviation from a societal normalization. The other aspect to lies would be based in knowledge that an action or expression would cause harm to another entity. The latter is not necessarily an offensive deception, and could be protective in nature. Sort of like when is it the correct time to teach some about fire.

*WM*

Powessy
12-30-2014, 10:33 PM
Hello WildMage

I am not using telepathy to talk to them, nor have I ever assumed it to be telepathy. I have spent many hours skimming through out the internet for explanations to this but have yet to find an explanation. I do not talk to just one entity but many hundreds or thousands of them over this time.

In the beginning when I spoke to them and they everyday the main thing they wanted is to find control points. I don't understand this but you can probably relate to this by how the mainframes were connected together, these connections are them connecting themselves to the soul. Since the beginning with them and they I could allow them to become themselves inside of me. What I mean by this is that if I relaxed my body they could control all aspects of my body and could talk to you as if they themselves were standing in front of you, I do this with them many many times a day now because of the rate they are moving through here. They are never the same and change constantly. in the beginning there was only two of them here per day, all day long. The changes I experience is why I allow this to happen. Remember I chose to do this and chose to find their words it is the others here with me that made this possible, these others are not inside me but outside me.

There is no amplification factor there is just them inside me connected to my soul for only a moment in time till they become themselves inside themselves. the terminology for this was given as frontal thought genesis this is what I was told in the beginning when I had the chance to ask many questions.

Powessy

Powessy
12-30-2014, 11:39 PM
There are other valid explanations for what you experience.

The explanations can even be reduced to the absolute fundamentals that can match just about any valid case.
And out of necessity the explanations even make logical sense and can describe predictions about someones case.


So even if someone recounting leaves out the details, you know what already goes along with the package of experiences.

Sure some things are variable, but pretty much standard and straightforward.

========================

For example, if I had never met you, and you stated you spoke with spirits and then mentioned the above written artifact of "condensed air".

That alone would hint very strongly at a range of other experiences involving ESP and the paranormal. You can infer what else is likely by just listening to the objective details that you'd describe.

If you mentioned head pressures and other kinds of transient head phenomena I would then be able to ask you about other veins of associated phenomena.

Like a finger print of your experience, the individual asking questions then knows what is likely and what isn't likely involved in your experience.
It would also give ample insight into how accurately and truthfully you describe your experience.

Hello Fore

I will try to answer any questions anyone has regarding these experiences I am having. You ask about head pressures, I get these only when calling against them. If I see them in someone then I will try to connect to them and see if I can bring them to me. I do not do this without permission usally but I have done this from time to time to get to them. When I call against someone I can feel their head press against mine and then their hands moving across the sides of my head in a compassionate way. I can then feel my crown open up and something like tentacles come out and removes the entities from from around them, I can not remove the sparteil only the replacements as I call them. Last night while watching a movie I had a presence come and press against my crown but this presence was trying to communicate, they were counting things and I was only able to ask a few questions of them. I know this feeling and I know they were here to see how things were going. Before they left they placed one of the twelve into me and started to remove all the things inside of it. The twelve has to be removed in a special manner that requires many to also be here. The treemends on them are longer then my face and much thicker they are so messed up and full of tricks. Today many of these pieces started to come through and I could see this person in these pieces.

I do not know all the lingo our the associations to the details you need to accurately describe these experiences, I only know that in the last year of constant internet searches I have found nothing like what I am experiencing. What I do find however is that many show signs of what I see on a daily basis and everything I have seen and felt can be explained by what I am experiencing.

If you walked up to me and I allowed them to become me, you would never doubt what I am trying to say.

Powessy

WildMage
12-31-2014, 12:47 AM
Hello WildMage

I am not using telepathy to talk to them, nor have I ever assumed it to be telepathy. I have spent many hours skimming through out the internet for explanations to this but have yet to find an explanation. I do not talk to just one entity but many hundreds or thousands of them over this time.

In the beginning when I spoke to them and they everyday the main thing they wanted is to find control points. I don't understand this but you can probably relate to this by how the mainframes were connected together, these connections are them connecting themselves to the soul. Since the beginning with them and they I could allow them to become themselves inside of me. What I mean by this is that if I relaxed my body they could control all aspects of my body and could talk to you as if they themselves were standing in front of you, I do this with them many many times a day now because of the rate they are moving through here. They are never the same and change constantly. in the beginning there was only two of them here per day, all day long. The changes I experience is why I allow this to happen. Remember I chose to do this and chose to find their words it is the others here with me that made this possible, these others are not inside me but outside me.

There is no amplification factor there is just them inside me connected to my soul for only a moment in time till they become themselves inside themselves. the terminology for this was given as frontal thought genesis this is what I was told in the beginning when I had the chance to ask many questions.

Powessy

thanx for the correction and distinction.

so would it be safe to say they are using the thought formation center of your mind to communicate with you?

what distinguishes your own thoughts from theirs?

*WM*

Powessy
12-31-2014, 01:39 AM
thanx for the correction and distinction.

so would it be safe to say they are using the thought formation center of your mind to communicate with you?

what distinguishes your own thoughts from theirs?

*WM*

Hello WildMage

In the beginning of this time the words were all spelt out. The words could be found in all the parts of my mind, Soon after this they started to find my higher mind and the words went from letters to words. All this is happening over time to allow me time to adjust to each thing they do. Imagine this for a minute, take my mind and press it into your mind but not the physical mind but the mind of the soul. So now we are completely overlapping one another, but your thoughts are yours and my thoughts are mine. Prior to this time I had an obe but this was different then any I have had. This obe showed me sliding out of body but with two pieces of my soul above me and two pieces below me. I think that they place them on only one of these parts and this part of my soul is the link between me and them speaking and the link between me feeling them in me and on me. I do find similarities in people with schizophrenia who talk with them but the difference with them and this is those I speak to change daily and they are never discarnate. I don't have problems communicating nor do they bother me other then repeating many of the same things over and over again all day long, the (program parts).

what distinguishes your own thoughts from theirs?


When I am in conversation with others it is like they move away from me. When we talk, which is all day it is no different then me talking to you. The other thing I can do which is really cool is when they are in me I can twist them to the front of me still connected and they can feel themselves from outside themselves, also I can have them move their hands from within mine to touch any part of themselves.

Powessy

WildMage
12-31-2014, 02:27 AM
Hello WildMage

In the beginning of this time the words were all spelt out. The words could be found in all the parts of my mind, Soon after this they started to find my higher mind and the words went from letters to words. All this is happening over time to allow me time to adjust to each thing they do. Imagine this for a minute, take my mind and press it into your mind but not the physical mind but the mind of the soul. So now we are completely overlapping one another, but your thoughts are yours and my thoughts are mine. Prior to this time I had an obe but this was different then any I have had. This obe showed me sliding out of body but with two pieces of my soul above me and two pieces below me. I think that they place them on only one of these parts and this part of my soul is the link between me and them speaking and the link between me feeling them in me and on me. I do find similarities in people with schizophrenia who talk with them but the difference with them and this is those I speak to change daily and they are never discarnate. I don't have problems communicating nor do they bother me other then repeating many of the same things over and over again all day long, the (program parts).

what distinguishes your own thoughts from theirs?


When I am in conversation with others it is like they move away from me. When we talk, which is all day it is no different then me talking to you. The other thing I can do which is really cool is when they are in me I can twist them to the front of me still connected and they can feel themselves from outside themselves, also I can have them move their hands from within mine to touch any part of themselves.

Powessy


What have they said to you about your own personal inner light? Have you used it at all in this interaction?

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the reason I am asking is because:

About a year or so ago I woke up to the feeling of a giant spider trying to put me under or i.e. put me to sleep in the astral planes. This was different and my own defense mechanisms recognized it as a feeder of sorts. I ended up having to use my own inner light to breakout of the illusion it had spun around me. I have a feeling you are inviting it in and allowing it to feed persay, my own instincts are saying it is a poison/pheromone induced experience. perhaps we are talking about something completely different here but your timing of events seems to correlate with something that occurred in and around the same time frame.

if it is the same ... then who are the spiders based on what you have been told or found out on your own?

on the flip side of this have you seen an owl in the background of all of this?

*WM*

Powessy
12-31-2014, 03:25 AM
What have they said to you about your own personal inner light? Have you used it at all in this interaction?

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the reason I am asking is because:

About a year or so ago I woke up to the feeling of a giant spider trying to put me under or i.e. put me to sleep in the astral planes. This was different and my own defense mechanisms recognized it as a feeder of sorts. I ended up having to use my own inner light to breakout of the illusion it had spun around me. I have a feeling you are inviting it in and allowing it to feed persay, my own instincts are saying it is a poison/pheromone induced experience. perhaps we are talking about something completely different here but your timing of events seems to correlate with something that occurred in and around the same time frame.

if it is the same ... then who are the spiders based on what you have been told or found out on your own?

on the flip side of this have you seen an owl in the background of all of this?

*WM*

With eyes closed raise your hind in front of your face can you see your hand, is it darker or is it slightly lit, I can see mine as lit. They are attracted to the light of my soul this is why they come here to me all the time, entities.

The spiders are my friends and mean no harm. They are here finding things for me. as a child and adult I have been around them many times. I have found myself inside astral projections in rooms filled with them trying to talk to me it wasn't till a year ago that I could speak to them. They are not here to harm but to find things out and after that they will leave again. You are by far not the first person who has seen them or dealt with them if this is the same spider.

The spiders come from a desert world they travel only in the after but want to become something again.

what was this illusion that they placed on you. How does your soul tell you of things to fear, are you afraid of spiders in your own life. When I was attacked eight years ago my soul informed me that this attack was a threat by showing those attacking me as spiders the one thing that I fear in this world, a bad child hood experience. I believe the spiders I know and the spiders you seen are two different things, your soul warning you of an attack. The spiders I deal with are no bigger then a tarantula.

The one thing I know for sure is if something gets to close to me and is not welcome it becomes something inside of me weather they want to or not.

I only owl I have seen is several months back I entered into my shed and a owl sat perched on a shelf in the back of it.

powessy


powessy

WildMage
12-31-2014, 04:11 AM
With eyes closed raise your hind in front of your face can you see your hand, is it darker or is it slightly lit, I can see mine as lit. They are attracted to the light of my soul this is why they come here to me all the time, entities.

The spiders are my friends and mean no harm. They are here finding things for me. as a child and adult I have been around them many times. I have found myself inside astral projections in rooms filled with them trying to talk to me it wasn't till a year ago that I could speak to them. They are not here to harm but to find things out and after that they will leave again. You are by far not the first person who has seen them or dealt with them if this is the same spider.

The spiders come from a desert world they travel only in the after but want to become something again.

what was this illusion that they placed on you. How does your soul tell you of things to fear, are you afraid of spiders in your own life. When I was attacked eight years ago my soul informed me that this attack was a threat by showing those attacking me as spiders the one thing that I fear in this world, a bad child hood experience. I believe the spiders I know and the spiders you seen are two different things, your soul warning you of an attack. The spiders I deal with are no bigger then a tarantula.

The one thing I know for sure is if something gets to close to me and is not welcome it becomes something inside of me weather they want to or not.

I only owl I have seen is several months back I entered into my shed and a owl sat perched on a shelf in the back of it.

powessy


powessy

the outline of my hands are lit.

astral spiders are quite common in literature. The one I dealt with was primordially big it does not exist in the physical world. It was bigger than me is what I remember of it and it was trying to paralyze me. it was doing what spiders do. I had heard of them but had not encountered any before then. My thoughts at the time were it just want me to go to sleep and have me see a world that was idealistic, (roses and honey) while it fed on me.

Fear is transmitted as pressure around the heart and thru the center of my palms. However I can dissociate and look at it from and external perspective as needed.

so to your recollection what is it these spiders are looking for?

*WM*

Powessy
12-31-2014, 10:14 PM
"Face" knot two"


A Sparteil needs to find a mind, he can reshape the soul and finds minds in dreams, astral projections or obes.
I need to find a mind inside my mind to find my mind
If mind found then begin process {
Then Initiate the program. Program = pull replacement down into problem to become the new soul, Then attach your soul to the loungecast, your soul is silenced and becomes part of the loungecast. The sparteil pulls your soul out once the replacement has become you. The soul will never be able to become itself inside itself again. Replacement becomes you. The human part of this problem makes it impossible to figure this out, many will have problems for a short time and then the problems go away once the builder has left with their soul. Many will never even be aware.

If replacement becomes your soul but cannot become your soul and you together {
Then Do nothing Replacement will do anything in its power to become yourself and your soul together. There can be many replacements put out to solve this problem and I believe this is seen in schizophrenics or people that hear voices. If replacement starts to understand to much about itself, then those that did not become you must be removed. Top hat sends out clean up this soul removes all the replacements and it’s command = I need to find anything that can’t become something to become something inside myself.

If replacement cannot become your soul
Then Top hat will come forward and become himself inside yourself.
Top hat does not want to become you he is programmed to become himself now and then he can become himself many times later. The top hat has a flaw in its program they cannot choose what soul they become they must become whatever replacement cannot become.

Once the soul swap is completed the mind becomes quiet and cannot be found by the sparteil this allows him to leave and find the next mind. The sparteil is angry and the tricks and confusion cause him great agony.

Here is the second knot this is the head of the beast here. The fact the sparteil is unaware he/she is caring the mind within itself shows you how deceived they really are. They are calling from the two nodes inside the loungecast; I need to find a mind inside my mind to find a mind is all the sparteil hears.

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The teacher is connected to the loungecast but I believe it is separated from him since the teacher is male he is still under the control of the loungecast but is able to decide what it is that the replacement needs to understand and he is held in the middle section of the mind , just like voice. Each connect part to the lounge cast this is his inability to understand himself or find himself so all these pieces to him seem normal and function just like one person, himself.
Another thing you must also be aware of is that treemends can be wrapped around each other connecting each part of this together creating a bridge of sorts but keeps the parts separated. This knot above can be used millions of times over and over again. The other thing that is absolutely necessary to this problem is that none of these souls can become themselves inside themselves and this is why the hatmen(sparteil) look black and full of static.

Powessy

how do you resize an image that you are appending

WildMage
01-01-2015, 01:21 AM
thanx Powessy for the last it helps in understanding the cascade and the separation of duties between entities a bit better.

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I am still a bit curious on what it is these spiders are looking for? hoping you can answer this as it may provide some insight into the why this is occurring, from a different perspective.

*WM*

as for resizing images I believe the thumbnail is the default when uploading to the server. You could try to link the images in from a hosting site like Photobucket, Imagur etc. which may allow it to retain its original size. The final answer to this though should probably come from a mod or someone who knows the boards a bit better than me.

Powessy
01-01-2015, 01:58 AM
1301 Here is the image but much larger.

calikid
01-01-2015, 04:10 PM
1301 Here is the image but much larger.
Thanks. MUCH easier to read on my tablet.

Powessy
01-02-2015, 04:39 AM
thanx Powessy for the last it helps in understanding the cascade and the separation of duties between entities a bit better.

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I am still a bit curious on what it is these spiders are looking for? hoping you can answer this as it may provide some insight into the why this is occurring, from a different perspective.

*WM*

as for resizing images I believe the thumbnail is the default when uploading to the server. You could try to link the images in from a hosting site like Photobucket, Imagur etc. which may allow it to retain its original size. The final answer to this though should probably come from a mod or someone who knows the boards a bit better than me.

Hello WildMage

The thoughts you have regarding spiders from the memories you have are based only on the soul showing you of danger.

now there are those that feel spiders moving across their crowns these feelings are the sparteil as they enter into the soul it is the treemends they feel. i have been reading of so many others that also feel the treemends and sparteil and come up with hundreds of different explanations for them. I have read that they are everything from parasites, guides, aliens and spiders. How do you explain this to them these are their experiences, I feel them and talk to them everyday. The treemend is the soul.

The spiders I am referring to the ones that have been with and around me my whole life are here to help find those that I m searching for, your discarnate entities, sparteil, the twelve and many others as nasty as it gets. and to them that hear these words my name is powessy you know how to find me, I will find you one way or the other.

Powessy

WildMage
01-02-2015, 07:49 AM
Hello WildMage

The thoughts you have regarding spiders from the memories you have are based only on the soul showing you of danger.

now there are those that feel spiders moving across their crowns these feelings are the sparteil as they enter into the soul it is the treemends they feel. i have been reading of so many others that also feel the treemends and sparteil and come up with hundreds of different explanations for them. I have read that they are everything from parasites, guides, aliens and spiders. How do you explain this to them these are their experiences, I feel them and talk to them everyday. The treemend is the soul.

The spiders I am referring to the ones that have been with and around me my whole life are here to help find those that I m searching for, your discarnate entities, sparteil, the twelve and many others as nasty as it gets. and to them that hear these words my name is powessy you know how to find me, I will find you one way or the other.

Powessy

Hi Powessy, thanx for the response regarding the spiders.

Is Powessy a reaper of sorts? Guardian of a dimensional gate? Would the words "I met Powessy or one like him 27 years ago" i.e. "select your weapon"... make any sense to you here? You would have been 17-18 at the time? Powessy on the other hand would be eternal by human standards, roughly 38,000 years in this particular realm. -- 235K total, still pretty young in the scope of things?

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If someone watching this has the nickname The Shark, you have a time traveler looking for you, or at least some multidimensional being that travels in an egg shaped craft.
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I am just a traveler waiting to go home, Powessy. How old do you think my soul is Powessy? Do you know what I am... I am not Sparteil Powessy, I help others find their way across your bridge, but not thru you, but by right of passage earned. <-- maybe this makes sense to you, but then again it would sort of surprise me if I get a direct response to it.... I watched my world get destroyed, pulled apart by gravity, and waited a million years on a remnant of this world to be rescued... You want to talk to me Powessy? What is it you want to say?

*WM*

Powessy
01-03-2015, 11:38 PM
The next knot is the control, cleanup and replacement.


The astral parasites you find in the veil and on people are replacements that cannot become something again unless they are placed in a new soul by something else. The point to this problem is to insure everything on this planet is either a replacement or a tophat. The reason the replacements are not becoming new souls is because these souls are being blocked by another outside race that is becoming these children ones that neither tophat or replacement can become, this is only a temporary fix.

The next knot is the control, cleanup and replacement.


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The reason for this knot is to make sure control stays out of the mind of the loungecast. Control is always a female and is of a different race then human, she is from a water world and her skin is bluish gray in appearance, denoted in red. She is able to find your higher mind and is responsible in the placement of the replacement soul” denoted In light blue”. She has many pieces of programming inside of her that insures she cannot find herself again, her placement is to the left side of your mind. The replacement has no shape at first it requires the sparteil to shape its soul to fit yourself, Your soul is then silenced and pulled into a treemend to become part of them and they, but is never allowed to become itself. Replacement becomes you and it is no more aware of you then you are of yourself. A lot of people out there have feelings of others around them or have experiences of something touching them outside themselves but this is actually happening inside the treemend. This problem is also seen in schizophrenics and those who hear voices as something in their mind is different and they find this process going on. The replacement just becomes you and your soul together, others that have astral experiences and obes most likely have tophats inside of them and along with them and they and the sparteil. I will explain this in the last Knot, in the next post. Anyway, cleanup is sent forward to remove replacement if it starts to find its mind during the process, I found that control will release many replacements to make sure the connection and authenticity of the replacement is 100% so not to be noticed. Cleanup is programed with the saying; I need to find anything that cannot become something to become something inside myself denoted in dark blue. This cleans up all replacements and all things that are deemed to not become something again. Replacement starts out with a node tricks inside of it or perhaps inside the control treemend, Replacement also needs to find its mind inside its mind to find its mind. Here is the trick to this problem he only finds your mind and everything else is to make his soul become your soul and your human mind together, the command to find your mind is the first program he has placed into him/her. This is a quick process lasting only a day but occasionally will last longer than this. The reason for this is when you die your soul is already gone and the replacement now is in search again for a mind inside its mind to find a mind, these are your parasites with limited knowledge, and some human memories of who they were before. Here is where your discarnate entities come from and why there are so many of them.

Powessy
01-04-2015, 03:11 AM
I have found another one of the twelve and wanted to show how this connection occurs. This person man999887 is having sever problems with this and they are influencing him in many ways. The reason I know this is one of the twelve is that he mentions them inside his stomach this entity in the stomach of the twelve draws things from the foods he digests. here is the link http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_psychic_and_paranormal/evil_spiritsghosts_possession_attaching_on_my_body _extremely_severe_case-t43628.0.html.

The twelve hold many worlds inside them and constantly need to be inside of something to maintain the soul force of those they control. The other problem is they are not sparteil but sparteil are the main part of this equation since they build the worlds the twelve rule over.


Fore do you see the similarities in the link I provided a week or so ago and this case now.

the comment I left on this site is to entice them to find me, they like thoughts of power, I know this irritates them when confronted and hopefully it seeks me out.

powessy



I am adding this to show the difference between one of the twelve attacking and just a sparteil with face and control. here is a link with the person finding the mind of the sparteil http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78242-Help-Remote-healing-or-Remote-Viewing-Situation-critical.

Powessy
01-04-2015, 10:22 PM
I was doing my daily search around many online forums I frequent, and I ran across an account from a member in a time he spent in the mental,institution. This individual has a sparteil, face and control inside of him but they constantly want him to kill himself.
I think the more aware of things face is and the more confused the person is may cause increased amounts of psychosis.

"""""""I was sitting next to her.

She was rocking back and forth completely agitated, it was beyond agitated actually. She would have exploded had she been flammable.
I looked over at her and sweat was pouring out of her, and it just kept coming to, it was like she was in a non stop sprint she had so much coming out of her. It was really pouring out.
So she looks over at me and says strangely "We used to be angels." Oh my ■■■■ was it some creepy ■■■■! It was one of those moments like in the movies you know, in horror films. Like when the woman goes "but i am your daughter" in "the others" with nicole kidman, it was really really creepy the way she said it and how it happened.

So as a guy thats been possessed i had a slight inkling that someone was in her mind speaking through her when she said that. It's happened to me several times now so yeah it can happen.
It was crazy to because the people working there may have been unaware of her problem, i'm not sure, i think some of them know at least. She didn't need any pills to say the least, you could give her pills i guess if nothing else could be done for her, but at the core of it she didn't really need pills.

That was one of my experiences at the psyche ward. '''''''''''''''''

Angel = sparteil in this case.

powessy

Powessy
01-10-2015, 10:30 PM
This is the last knot that I am so far aware of and it is the placement of tophat and them and they. Knot 4



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The top hat has two nodes that are inside of him that prevent all minds from finding his mind they repeat; This is my mind, your mind is your mind and my mind is not your mind. They repeat this over and over again and use strong physical imaginations to prevent anything from entering tophats mind. There are older more evolved human souls on this planet those that have been here only a few reincarnations it is these souls that replacement cannot become. If replacement cannot become you then tophat is then queued that this soul is the one it is looking for. Tophats first program is if replacement cannot figure it out then he will figure it out. Once tophat finds the soul it’s looking for it calls for them and they to become something inside of it. I found that when this happens all that is left is tophat and the mind of the loungecast till the day the human body dies, he leaves your soul in side yourself and becomes himself inside you also. The only reason they do not try to become your soul is because they want to only become themselves. This is their programming; I need to become myself now so I can become myself many more times. Once the human body dies then they gain control over the sparteil it removes your soul and then directs them to reincarnate tophat into a new body this bypasses your world soul object.

I know there is something in replacement that will terminate and when this happens everything with them will die. I am unsure of their programming or the source of this signal or code or whatever that will cause this but only that it exists.
Spiritual sites are what they are looking for and the type people the tophats need to become. You have no protection against them if they find your mind and all the healers, psychic’s, spiritualists and magic in the world will not stop it.

Powessy

lycaeus
07-19-2015, 04:11 AM
Recently I was reading A Seperate Reality by Carlos Castaneda. The Shaman teacher explains to his student Carlos about the inorganic beings he calls "Allies" take various forms, one of which reminded me of the beings spoke of in this thread, with the triangle shape and pointy head.

from page 41...

"How does an ally look to a coyote?"
"I would have to be a coyote to know that. I can tell you, however, that to a crow it looks like a pointed hat. Round and wide at the bottom, ending in a long point. Some of them shine, but the majority are dull and appear to be very heavy. They resemble a dripping piece of cloth. They are foreboding shapes."
"How do they look to you when you see them, don Juan?"
"I've told you already; they look like whatever they're pretending to be. They take any shape or size that suits them. They could be shaped like a pebble or a mountain."

...

don Juan also says that he can tell that some humans are not really humans. With his heightened awareness and perceptivity, he can clairvoyantly see humans as luminous eggs with heightened awareness. But when allies pretend to be human they just look human. So not all people we see are really people. He has fun spotting them by observing people at bus stops and other places. He also says that sorcerers use the allies and put them to use for whatever purpose they see fit. They connect with the allies through entheogenic plants. ...reminds me, that the Cassiopaean channeling material mentions DMT allowing humans to bleedthrough to 4th density. I have personal experience of that, it sounds about right.