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southerncross
10-23-2015, 02:58 AM
This may answer many questions if found to be true.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/11906040/Scans-suggest-Queen-Nefertiti-may-lie-concealed-in-King-Tuts-tomb.html

High-resolution scans suggest the tomb of Ancient Egypt's boy-king Tutankhamun contains passages to two hidden chambers, including what one British archaeologist believes is the last resting place of Queen Nefertiti.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/king-tuts-tomb-secret-chambers_560a0aece4b0af3706dda13b?section=weird-news&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000025

Egyptian officials said on Monday there's evidence of two hidden chambers behind the tomb's famous painted walls -- and one expert believes those secret rooms could be the long-lost final resting place of Queen

majicbar
10-23-2015, 10:04 PM
This may answer many questions if found to be true.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/11906040/Scans-suggest-Queen-Nefertiti-may-lie-concealed-in-King-Tuts-tomb.html

High-resolution scans suggest the tomb of Ancient Egypt's boy-king Tutankhamun contains passages to two hidden chambers, including what one British archaeologist believes is the last resting place of Queen Nefertiti.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/king-tuts-tomb-secret-chambers_560a0aece4b0af3706dda13b?section=weird-news&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000025

Egyptian officials said on Monday there's evidence of two hidden chambers behind the tomb's famous painted walls -- and one expert believes those secret rooms could be the long-lost final resting place of Queen

If true, then to avoid destroying the walls, how will they ever enter the tomb? One can't drill from any other direction, we might then ruin artwork in Nefertiti's tomb on it's walls and ceiling. This will be profoundly interesting and an adventure.

Doc
10-25-2015, 03:19 PM
If true, then to avoid destroying the walls, how will they ever enter the tomb? One can't drill from any other direction, we might then ruin artwork in Nefertiti's tomb on it's walls and ceiling. This will be profoundly interesting and an adventure.

There are more problems than just the preservation of the originally discovered site. There is so much technology available to investigate this theory/discovery. Who will choose what approach will be taken? Will it be the usual Antiquities Dept or will the government of Egypt step in and attempt to control or quash investigation? Will the process of deciding be open or entirely behind closed doors with no press coverage? Will permission be denied? Perhaps the most important question, who will do the actual investigation?

A99
10-25-2015, 04:46 PM
The « ScanPyramids » Project Launch to Crack the Secret of the Biggest Egyptian Pyramids
”CAIRO, Oct. 25, 2015 /CNW/ - The Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities is pleased to announce the launch of an egyptian - international Project using non-invasive and non-destructive surveying techniques for the scanning of Egyptian Pyramids under the title "ScanPyramids" project...

The scientific mission "Scan Pyramids" is an unprecedented, large-scale project and will begin early November. It will focus on four masterpieces of the Fourth Dynasty (2575-2465): on the site of Dahshur, about fifteen kilometers south of Saqqara, the mission will study the South pyramid, called the Bent, and the North pyramid, called the Red, both built by Snefru (2575 - 2551). On the Giza plateau at about twenty kilometers from Cairo, it will study the pyramids of Khufu and Khafre, built by the son and grand-son of Snefru.

This campaign is entirely dedicated to the advancement of knowledge...

Source: http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/the--scanpyramids--project-launch-to-crack-the-secret-of-the-biggest-egyptian-pyramids-536833441.html

Here's a video on Vimeo entitled ScanPyramids Mission Teaser_English Version
https://vimeo.com/143189512


https://vimeo.com/143189512

A99
10-25-2015, 05:28 PM
Whatever they decide to do, let's hope they do it before ISIS moves in and destroys everything, including the Sphinx!

calikid
10-25-2015, 05:34 PM
There are more problems than just the preservation of the originally discovered site. There is so much technology available to investigate this theory/discovery. Who will choose what approach will be taken? Will it be the usual Antiquities Dept or will the government of Egypt step in and attempt to control or quash investigation? Will the process of deciding be open or entirely behind closed doors with no press coverage? Will permission be denied? Perhaps the most important question, who will do the actual investigation?
Who indeed? I always respected Hawass (IMHO just the right mix of sharing knowledge, while jealously protecting national treasures).
But since his ouster when Mubaruk was over thrown, not likely he will make a comeback.

A99
10-25-2015, 06:04 PM
I hope they never bring him back because he was too closed minded and sabotaged other researchers exploratory expeditions of those tombs. He's too stuck in the status quo which is understandable as he was at the apex of it.

Smithsonian mag. wrote an excellent article about him entitled The Rise and Fall and Rise of Zahi Hawass
The long-reigning king of Egyptian antiquities has been forced into exile—but he’s plotting a returnHere's the link: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-rise-and-fall-and-rise-of-zahi-hawass-72874123/?no-ist

calikid
10-25-2015, 09:38 PM
I hope they never bring him back because he was too closed minded and sabotaged other researchers exploratory expeditions of those tombs. He's too stuck in the status quo which is understandable as he was at the apex of it.

Smithsonian mag. wrote an excellent article about him entitled The Rise and Fall and Rise of Zahi Hawass
The long-reigning king of Egyptian antiquities has been forced into exile—but he’s plotting a returnHere's the link: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-rise-and-fall-and-rise-of-zahi-hawass-72874123/?no-ist





If that's the worst of it, all sounds very political to me.

As a bureaucrat, I respected he was as likely to be found in the field with a shovel, as sitting behind a desk with paper and pen. Unlike many other administrators.

If not Hawass, then who better?

southerncross
10-28-2015, 02:50 PM
I have to agree with A99. Hawass is known for picking and choosing his history and what he'll choose to dig to reinforce that narrative. Egyptologists that want to work in Egypt have to genuflect to him and his view of history. There remains the bulk of Egyptian history under the sands. So much is not known and will remain unknown as long as he is in charge. Answers to questions of their technology have been shelved waiting to see the light of day.

Hawass is closed to the idea of a Mother Civilization that lies outside of Egypt. That civilization is likely further west when the Sahara was a plain filled with grasses and wildlife that supported these intelligent people. There are similarities to the star culture of their religions with the Dogon, language and letters have similarities, yet Hawass refutes that with a toss of his hand. Apparently it's a coincidence.
So much, so very much, is suppressed in the name of his view of Egyptian superiority.

If not Hawass who? A valid question, but two steps back is not an answer either. For now they need to protect what they have from religious extremists who vow to deface or destroy what is above ground. Leave the balance safely blanketed under the sands till these mad men are in the Paradise. Then they can set about finding a scientist that will truly pursue the truth for the benefit of mankind.
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On a personal note: I despise his grandstanding and self aggrandizement. National Geographic sank their teeth into that and IMO, did themselves little good. Sometimes it's as if the program is more about him, and less about the remarkable culture surrounding him. So glad to see him in the shadows at last.

A99
10-28-2015, 11:14 PM
Do you know what's truly remarkable? Hawass' PhD at the University of Penn was funded by the Association for Research and Enlightenment (Edgar Cayce's org in Virgina Beach) and his Fulbright scholarship was acquired via his connections to that org. too. Yet, ironically, Hawass turned his back on the very hand that fed him once he completed that program.

calikid
10-29-2015, 04:07 PM
Hawass haters, got it.

Still, an important historical figure like Queen Nefertiti, who's name echos over the millennia, will become linked to the person who "discovers" her resting place.
Much like King Tut and Howard Carter.
Would prefer it be an Egyptologist of world renown. Still have not hear any suggestions, beyond my own. I'm guessing a short list exists, somewhere, probably at the Ministry of State of Antiquities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_State_of_Antiquities).
It will be interesting to see who is chosen.

southerncross
10-29-2015, 06:24 PM
A99, We had many foreign exchange student where I went to college. This sounds very familiar.

I don't hate the man. I just think he could have done a great deal more for his nation and for the discoveries that lie beneath the sand, had he been more open minded.
He seemed to have some need to always be in the picture, to make it as much about him as the wonders that were being uncovered by many other very hard working archaeologists, that barely got a mention.

A99
11-05-2015, 04:04 PM
Whatever they decide to do, let's hope they do it before ISIS moves in and destroys everything, including the Sphinx!

The quote above is from my own comment I posted in this thread on Oct. 25th and then a few days later, that Russian airliner taking off from a popular vacation spot in Egypt exploded in mid-air from a bomb planted on it by ISIS.

At the time when I created that post, I was strongly sensing that something big involving ISIS and Egypt was going to happen, hence my warning that those archaeologists who want to explore that King Tut chamber for those 2 hidden chambers that they'd better do it as soon as possible should ISIS move in and start destroying Egypt's pyramids and other archaeology sites. I was not kidding. The chance for that happening is even more critical now than before. Or rather, amps up the very real possibility that if ISIS is not kept in check in Egypt, they may move on and attempt to destroy those archaeological sites.

Anyway, my psychic sensing that something big was going to happen soon between Egypt and ISIS which caused me to make that post I posted here on Sunday Oct. 25th turned out to be true.

A99
11-05-2015, 04:31 PM
Possibility of explosive device

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268


According to a senior U.S. defense official speaking on 2 November, a U.S. infrared (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared) satellite detected a heat flash at the time and place of the disaster, and the US intelligence community believed that it could have been an explosion on the plane, by either a fuel tank or a bomb. The plane had reportedly "disintegrated at a very high altitude." The satellite image also ruled out a missile attack. US Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper) said that there was not yet any "direct evidence of terrorist involvement".[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268#cite_note-69)Some UK news outlets reported that an "ISIL (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISIL) bomb" was the "'most likely' explanation for the crash".[65] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268#cite_note-70)
On 4 November the UK government said that in the light of further information, the crash "may well have been caused by an explosive device".[66] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268#cite_note-bbccancel-71) British aviation experts travelled to Egypt to assess airport security; the UK government Cobra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_Office_Briefing_Room) emergency committee, chaired by the Prime Minister, considered their findings. A further statement was expected.
Paul Adams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Adams_(journalist)), BBC world affairs correspondent, said that Prime Minister David Cameron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron)'s spokesperson left little doubt that the British government believed the plane was brought down by a bomb. Adams said that suspending flights both to and from a foreign country and insisting on your own technical experts assessing security demonstrated a lack of confidence in that country's own security measures.[66] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268#cite_note-bbccancel-71)
US intelligence told CNN that they believe an ISIL operative planted a bomb before take off. The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_Syria) claims responsibility.[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268#cite_note-72) Britain and Ireland suspended flights to and from Sharm el-Sheikh[68] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268#cite_note-73) and the UK sent a security team to check out the security situation


Britain: 'Significant Possibility' ISIS Brought Down Russian Plane (half hour ago)

"We cannot be certain that the Russian airliner was brought down by a terrorist bomb, but it looks increasingly likely that that was the case," Cameron said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-metrojet-plane-crash-likely-isis-uk_563b6539e4b0411d306fc74b

Russian plane crash: U.S. intel suggests ISIS bomb brought down jethttp://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/africa/russian-plane-crash-egypt-sinai/

calikid
11-06-2015, 04:19 PM
Possibility of explosive device

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogalymavia_Flight_9268



Britain: 'Significant Possibility' ISIS Brought Down Russian Plane (half hour ago)

"We cannot be certain that the Russian airliner was brought down by a terrorist bomb, but it looks increasingly likely that that was the case," Cameron said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-metrojet-plane-crash-likely-isis-uk_563b6539e4b0411d306fc74b

Russian plane crash: U.S. intel suggests ISIS bomb brought down jethttp://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/africa/russian-plane-crash-egypt-sinai/

Well, if it was ISIL, just goes to show their evil intent.
Reports of the destruction of antiquities by ISIL forces would lead us to assume, given the chance, they would probably torch Queen N's tomb.

A99
11-07-2015, 02:17 PM
Last night I reviewed over all of those ancient monuments and so on that ISIS has destroyed, and it's clear as day that they will not hesitate to destroy Egypts monuments but only after holding them hostage till their demands are met... only then will they destroy them. Because we already know that they will destroy them anyways, should their military forces take over them, if it ever comes to this, it will be interesting to see how the world reacts and what they will do to contain the situation.

70% of Egypt's national income relies on tourism so it's not surprising that they are currently trying to sabatoge efforts in finding out what happened to that airliner. That ISIS has, like for all of the other countries in the mid-east, infiltrated them yet Egypt continues to negate that ISIS' presence in their country is much more intense than just some ISIS affiliated terrorists located in the N.E. part of Egypt, is further indication that they will say and do anything to perpetuate the lie that ISIS poses no danger to them and that tourists are safe there too.

Because they clearly are not doing everything humanly possible to contain the ISIS presence in their country, we should not be surprised if another airliner will be brought down by ISIS over Egypt.... or coming from Egypt over some other area of the world. For whatever it's worth, the day before yesterday, during a meditation session when I asked if another plane was going to be bombed, I saw a woman with long blond hair sitting in a plane looking out a window. Then a voice said to me "this is the blond (or long) haired, blue-eyed version of me" and then just as she was buckling her seat-belt, in the next scene I saw that same seat belt dangling and blowing in the wind over a big hole in the plane. I don't know if that inner eye vision had to do with the first plane blowing up or if it's showing what's coming up in the near future. But besides that, logic should tell us to at least consider that ISIS may try to take another plane down and that Egypt, being the way they are about the ISIS threat are not doing what they should be doing to prevent that from happening again... or some other big thing will happen in Egypt where ISIS is the perpetrator.

A99
11-08-2015, 09:03 PM
I just found the following news article that was published today that, to me, may give some explanation why I saw that inner-eye vision the other day during a meditation session where I asked if ISIS was going to bomb another airliner again. In that vision, as I described in a previous post here, I saw a women with long blond hair looking through an airplane window where a voice said to me "This is the blond haired, blue-eyed version of me" while she was buckling her seat belt. Then in the next scene, she's no longer there and instead I see that same seat belt blowing and dangling in the wind over a gaping hole in the plane.

I was not sure if that vision had to do with the bombing of that Russian plane or a new bombing of an airliner that's coming up in the future but now I think it had to do with the Russian plane that just went down and that that phrase "This is the blond haired, blue-eyed version of me" could be interpreted as meaning that a blond haired, blue-eyed version of ISIS played a role in bringing down that plane. Here's that article:


Secret Surveillance Evidence Suggests British Islamist Militants May Have Played Role in Russian Plane Disaster: Report


Nov. 8, 2015 8:05am


"British-accented Islamist extremists in Egypt were overheard by a British spy agency celebrating moments after the crash of a Russian passenger plane last
week, sparking suspicions among intelligence experts that they may have played a role in the downing of the plane..."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/08/secret-surveillance-evidence-suggests-british-islamist-militants-may-have-played-role-in-russian-plane-disaster-report/