Nanoman - Chris H Cooper

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'Nano Man' the nanotechnology scientist discovered by Jeremy Corbell were both on Coast to Coast last night

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2016/01/24

From the C2C page...

In the first hour, George Knapp welcomed filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, who is currently working on a project about a scientist he called "Nano Man." He was introduced to this person through a mutual contact in the U.S. Navy. Corbell described meeting in an atmosphere of paranoia, since "Nano Man"'s employers thought that Corbell was a government intelligence operative who wanted to steal ideas and technology. He advised that when dealing with people who work on sensitive projects, that "confidence has to be continuously earned" and that you must be able to keep secrets and release any information that is given to you in a timely fashion.

In the second hour, "Nano Man" was revealed to be physicist Chris H Cooper. For many years, Cooper has worked in the development of carbon nanotubes, which are composed of carbon molecules ten atoms thick, and that he twists into strings and cables that exhibit incredible strength. Another application for the nanotubes which Cooper has patented is a water purification system that was funded by a grant from the Air Force's Wright-Patterson Base in order to provide clean water for military personnel. Cooper says that it has also been used in developing countries in Africa as "a high-tech product in a low-tech environment."

Cooper says that what we know of physics at this time is "like comparing a drop of water to the ocean." He recalled that during the 1980s, discoveries were made that had direct bearing on the development of cold fusion, which Cooper has been studying for many years. In 2014 he says his research team produced a thermal output from a brass sphere filled with palladium and deuterium, which was converted into electricity that lighted an LED output. The experiment was captured on film by Corbell, who played an audio clip of the moment when this occurred, and said that Cooper's father (who has assisted in some of his projects) told him that the success of the experiment was "on par with the discovery of fire."

Cooper is also perfecting what he calls a "space drive." He described the principle of the quantum or zero-point field, which his drive uses as the medium to "push against" as aircraft use air or ships use water. He has demonstrated a working model to Corbell. The experiment was conducted in a private, underground laboratory and appeared to prove the concept, at least to the filmmaker's satisfaction. Using this drive, Cooper claims that spacecraft could reach Mars in two days and the nearest star in "a couple of months." Some of the materials for the drive were supplied by Bob Lazar, of area 51 fame.

Corbell also told the story of going to NASA's Ames Research Laboratory with a small vial of liquid that Cooper had given to him with what looked like metallic dust mixed in. When placed under an electron microscope, the "dust" appeared to be countless microminiature devices composed of "gears," "graspers," and other apparently machined artifacts. They called this substance "utility fog," a term coined in the 1990s, which refers to the theory of large groups of nanobots designed to perform a task at a molecular level. Cooper suggested that the material in the vial was collected in the aftermath of a UFO incident, and speculated that it may be the method used to produce crop circles, and recalled his own experience of standing in a crop circle while it was being formed. Corbell has four films planned that will feature the discoveries of Chris Cooper.


Jeremy Corbell's 'Nano Man' film
http://www.extraordinarybeliefs.com/#/i-am-nano-man/
There are going to be a series of these.

This is Chris Cooper's website
http://www.coopercoretechnologies.com/

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Longeyes,

Thanks for the update.

[Longeyes]

Transcribing the interview with 'Nanoman' Chris Cooper this is Hour 2 of the C2C show and this as far as I got today. This guy is seriously talented and very well connected.
CC - Chris Cooper
GK -George Knapp
JC -Jeremy Corbell

GK: Our next departure point …this is the place to hear about some jaw-dropping scientific breakthroughs - work that could really change the world! And one of the scientists, on the front lines in many of these areas, is our next guest - he’s the Nano man. We’ve been talking about with Jeremy Corbell. An expert and a military funded nano-physicist, known for working on advanced propulsion systems, as well as nano-materials, cold fusion. And in a moment we are going to tell you who he is, introduce him and let him tell us about his work. Much more to come here on Coast-to-coast AM

GK: My next guest is a founder of a couple of private companies, one is Apollo Resource Corporation, another is Seldon Technologies. His expertise is in nuclear physics, quantum field theory, quantum computation, nanotechnology and large-scale nano-manufacturing. He’s already had patented applications: in the fields of fuel, air and water purification; energy production; propulsion; and high conductivity materials. He’s got patented, patents issued, and patent pending in the fields of water purification card and carbon nanotubes and nuclear physics. (1’30”) He has published articles and prestigious publications including the American Journal of Physics, Physical Review Letters and Chemical Review Letters. He’s got an MA in physics from the University of Washington and a BSc in physics from New Mexico State University and for two years he was adjunct professor at Dartmouth College, at the School of Engineering there. His name is Chris Cooper. We welcome him to the program! Chris, great to have you here!

CC: Thank you so much, it’s great to be here.

GK: Spill the beans. Are you okay with this nickname Jeremy is giving you - Nano man?

CC: It isn’t the first have got most of this nickname. Some of my scientists back at Seldon used to call me the Nano President (2’02”)

GK: Let’s start with, you know we’ve got so much to cover. I wanna start with the work you’re doing now. Where is your focus right now? Is it the carbon nanotubes?

CC: My focus right now is carbon nanotubes thread and cable

GK: Tell us what that means. I don’t even though that means? How do you describe it?

CC: About 10,000 years ago mankind figured out how to spin fibres into spun yarns and then figured out how to combine those into threads, ropes and cables. I’m using same techniques that essentially have been known for 10,000 years too spin molecules of carbon. And these molecules are very closely related to pencil lead, or graphene and these molecules are only about 10 atoms In diameter and I’m able to spin this material out into lengths 5 km long.

GK: And what are the applications? Where does this go?

CC: The applications are almost as broad as one’s imagination. The materials are used for electronic textiles, aircraft, spacecraft. Virtually every system and subsystem in aerospace could be dramatically enhanced with this material. Could also be using medical applications... (3’49”) … microscopic robots for micro-surgery, continuous miniaturisation of endoscopic surgery tools, as aircraft tires - the replacement of steel cables due to the material properties are far superior to steel cables.

GK: You know I know that one of the… some of this is future applications, but a lot of the work that you’ve done, is already out there being used, better for people. I’m thinking specifically - water purification. What you done in the area? And for Coast-to-coast purposes that might not be the sexiest topic, but in a practical way it changes lives of people, and will change more lives in the future. Talk about that for a moment

CC: Yes, it has, changed the lives of villages across Africa all the way to the space station. Umm we had tremendous success in deploying this technology into rural Africa and round the world. The technology was funded in part by the U.S. Air Force, by NASA, DARPA other agencies, as well as private capital and corporate sponsors.

GK: And what is it what does it do? (5’ 23”)

CC: I was able to figure out how to remove virus and bacteria and other microorganisms from water using carbon nano-tubes as the filtration medium. And, I was able to do that very high flow rates, without the use of power, didn’t have to boil water, didn’t have to add chemicals to the water. So, imagine highly contaminated water, even sewage level of contamination, being put through a simple filtration medium, what appears to be a simple filtration media, and getting potable water out the other side. So high-tech membrane for a low-tech environment, such as the developing world, or where you need mobile water.

GK: Maybe send some to Flint Michigan right now….

CC: Yes

GK …those of us to get clean water out of the faucet. We take it for granted, but so millions and millions, around the world, they don’t have clean water, they get sick it leads to strife and war, all kinds of things, and maybe the wars of the future will be fought over water so a huge strike.

CC: That’s right. In fact a child dies every five seconds from contaminated water.

GK: We’re going to talk about some of the big projects that Jeremy touched in the first hour. But I want to start with some general comments that you have made, that I’ve heard before, in interviews you’ve done with Jeremy that are included in his films. There’s a statement that you made “We know nothing our understanding of physics is at the kindergarten level.” What you mean by that? Expound on it.
CC: So I’ve had a very classic education in physics, clear through masters level physics, and err three years working towards a PhD in physics. And it becomes quite apparent that what we know about physics and what there is still so undercover, and understand about physics, like comparing a drop of water to the ocean.

GK: And this is an opinion you shared with colleagues at all levels? Is that a how others see it? You’ve worked on national labs haven’t you?

CC: Yes and err that my colleagues have shared with me their same opinion of the current state of physics, (8’09”) including colleagues of mine at Lawrence Livermore National labs and various schools I’ve attended, professors of mine and others. So amongst practitioners of physics people who have made it their career. When one gets know these folks as I have, they will share with you, the facts as they see it – that our understanding of physics still in its infancy.

GK: Jeremy, I’m asking you to comeback in here. You know I can imagine if Chris were to say that to, some of his colleagues at Lawrence Livermore Labs, which is one of the places he was at for a while, that some of them might take offence to it? Wouldn’t they?

JC: I think I think any great scientist looks at what they know, and realises that there is so much more that they don’t, and one of the things that I admire about Chris. He had this incredible ability to imagine the future, and to imagine the capabilities are of new technologies which led him to his carbon nanotube water filtration system discoveries, that really has changed the whole environment of water filtration and also it allowed him to do the same with propulsion, and simply investigate things that most people won’t touch with a 10 foot pole, because you know he knows, again kinda like you said ‘Our job is to investigate the unexplained not to explain the uninvestigated’ And Chris really goes for it and that’s something I admire about him.

GK: Chris, tell me about grant or contract with Wright Patterson Air Force Base. What was that for?

CC: Is the Human Effectiveness Division Wright Patterson Air Force Base (9’34”) and those folks are tasked with being able to provide clean water, clean air and medical grade medical, medical grade water particularly for air men and rescue operations. So, their Charter is this far beyond just military support, and they are chartered with this basic life support. And we were able through 12 years of development, to develop a real breakthrough water purification technology for those folks and our Senator Patrick Leahy labelled our technology ‘weapons of mass construction’. The Dubai Air Show featured some of products and the Air Force featured these water filters and some of the feedback they got from our allies in the Middle East, were stunningly positive. The feedback was ‘Our military was finally developing something that was useful to humanity not just building bombs’. (11’41”)

GK: I got the sense that speaking to Jeremy. You have concerns about where some of your research might lead, that you’ve put some distance between yourself and working for military, and working on military contracts is that true or am I over-stating it?

CC: Yes, I’m very interested in having my efforts really be focused on products and technologies that can be used in far larger sphere, for humanity, and for the betterment of mankind, not just for the purpose of national security. There are many smart scientists working for different national security agendas and I’ve made decisions along the way to really stay focused on using a lot of the same technologies but develop those to focus those energies products that can really help save lives and provide water, energy and other critical needs to advance technology.

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GK: Some of the places where you worked do major important stuff working on national events, and we don’t actively pursue some of that, I mean obviously we need to defend ourselves, there was quote that you made to Jeremy, in one of the interviews. Where you said, we talked about the Reagan years ‘There was a huge leap made, a huge leap in understanding during Reagan years when the Star Wars project was under way’ Can you tell us what the huge leap was? And what the significance of it is?

CC: There was quite a lot of work in nuclear physics basic and fundamental theory in the 1960s, during the Reagan years the Star Wars program, we had another leap in understanding for Photonics and Nuclear theory which really helped drive a lot of fundamental support for the field of low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR) known as cold fusion (14’49”) certainly seen in the history of science, science will come in fits and starts, often a field will go dormant for many years and then get picked again with a fresh figure.

GK: Also along in the same of interview, that you gave, it really got my attention, you were talking about a time travel experiment. in essence, a time travel experiment regarding a gravity probe. And I didn’t really understand it and I don’t know it’s in connection with the same era that, Reagan’s Star Wars research era, but you said it had been funded by the National Science Foundation. What do you tell us about that?

CC: Yes, it was an experiment and it’s name is the Gravity Probe B and Prof Brown, I believe, has been developing a method using photonics to send information, back in time using entangled states, quantum states, the fundamental theory of this was laid down by Einstein it’s called the EPR Paradox taken to its extreme the theory predicts that one can send quantum states back in time and thus open the possibility, for information to be passed in the negative time direction.

GK: In that context though, you were talking about a top physicist, you didn’t name, but you said that he was scared of his own shadow and that something really weird is going on there. Is are we talking about? The time experiment? Or is there something else your referencing? (16’57”)

CC: Err, I’ve met a number of physicists who are have been very interested in the physics of time. Um, the one I think you referring to is actively looking at using methods of quantum decoupling to slow down time in an enclosed volume those experiments have been done by others, even decades ago my friend is currently interested in and is pursuing the replication of some of those experiments. Typically, those experiments lie outside the sort of ‘classic’ err, graduate student experiment in physics departments. (18’12”)

GK: Well, sort of like your space drive does. Let’s jump right into that. That seemed to be the heart of the conversation we want to have with you tonight. What is the space drive system that you’re working on? And I correct in saying but you made a presentation about it the Pentagon?

CC: Umm Yes, I did and the net result was an offer to fund the Space Drive Proposal. It was about that same time that I was starting to make serious progress towards the water filtration, reading between the tea leaves, it became quite apparent that if I continued to pursue departments defence funding for the Space Drive, in all likelihood it would become Special Access Program and basically disappear. So, we switched our focus at that time to water purification, the proposals that I submitted to the Pentagon in White Paper was quite lengthy and contained very serious mathematics concerning exactly what the underlying physics was…

GK: Well, I’m not gonna ask you to explain mathematics, because there’s sort of a general audience here, and it would go away over my head! But I am going to ask you to sort of describe how this system works what it would mean for space travel… (20’06”)

GK: We talking with nano-physicist Chris Cooper and filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, when we come back we getting to the Space Drive and how it works and what might mean to humanity… (20’15”)

21’02”
GK: Jeremy, I wanna bring you back in. When you explained it to you did you understand it. As he started to get into some maths there and I was worried about it, cause he was definitely gonna leave me behind.

JC: it’s actually quite simple and that’s what puts so fascinating. I want to relay this really funny moment. So, this is where everybody thanks we all think we’re taking one on the other, so was first meeting Chris Cooper, as I told you, everybody kind of kept us separate there was this big shut down within the company he was working with, because they thought I was connected somehow to the military intelligence looking at his work. We’ve had so many coincidences of people we’ve known and things that we’ve seen, that this funny moment happened where with his space drive it’s a really simple system. He has these meta-materials that put in at an angle, and essentially spun, and when they spin you get this propulsion phenomenon. Now what was so strange, I was sitting at the table, cameras rolling, and Chris gets super excited and he says ‘Ah great my new meta-materials are here’ And the UPS man is delivering them. He’s opening the box, and this is all on film, and all of a sudden the label and it says ‘United Nuclear ‘ I couldn’t believe it because that’s Bob Lazar’s company. These are the kinda coincidences that happen when working with Chris and he had no idea who he was buying these meta-materials from, to put in space drive. (22’34”) But again it’s a really simple system the way it was described to me, it’s like a paddle-wheel, so much in this meta-materials put inside of a cylinder and its spun, and when it spins it’s pushing against something, this is were Christ can explain this better, but it’s not highly technical because were in the kinda caveman phase of nanotechnology.

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GK: Right, I’m just gonna ask him about that, just wanna mention the name, Bob Lazar, early birthday greetings go out to Bob, who turns 57, would you believe that? 57 years old on Tuesday. Chris tell me how you pitch this Space Drive? How it working layman’s terms?

CC: So in layman’s terms the Space Drive works the same physics as a fan. A fan has blades and it’s working in an atmosphere, and as blades move it pushes the air in one direction. So, the airflow is anisotropic so the airflow is pushing in one direction. So the best analogy is; think of the quantum field is a fluid. And we want move the fluid itself, the quantum field, so the concept is if we can move the quantum field like fluid, we have something to push against. Aeroplane rotors or helicopter rotor pushes against the air, submarine pushes against the water, in deep space you don’t have an atmosphere to run through your turbines. You have to take your entire reaction mass with you, and essentially throw it all away, by essentially throwing it out the back end of your propulsion system. The basic concept is; the entire universe sowed with this is called quantum field and if you can anisotropically pump the quantum field, you have yourself a Space Drive. So build a turbine. The question comes up of what materials do you build your turbine from out of? And what can how fast you have to spin your turbine? Well to answer those questions one has to understand a great deal about what the quantum field is, or at lease our best understanding of what the quantum field is. And so, even as an undergraduate I started studying exactly, trying to understand what is quantum field is. And there’s a number of theories; the theory of the Zero Point field where you have virtual photons that are everywhere throughout the volume of universe pushing against stuff, and in the very low temperatures particles to tend to wiggle around and according to this theory it’s because they’re being jostled by the Zero Point Field photons. (26’06”) In other theories you have the Dirac Sea, we have just bubbling foam of particles and anti-particles being created and annihilated, millisecond by millisecond. So under the viewpoint that the quantum field is comprised of photons, photons move very, very quickly, and if you to extend the analogy of a fan, you need to move your fan at a speed that is at least approaching the speed of the velocity of the air particles in the room, and thus you can move the air - you can create a force. On the case of the Zero Point field, those particles photons, moving around at the speed of light. So the closer one can get your fan blade to a relativistic speed, the greater likelihood you’ll actually have of being able to pump the quantum field or use the field as your reaction mass.

GK: I saw video or footage that Jeremy shot in one of your labs, that he’s describing this space drive and this thing is whirring around. So I guess the question is - does it work? Does yer, are you right?

CC: It would appear that the fundamentals work. That I am able to push against this quantum field and get a thrust, a propulsion from the device.

GK: Put me in more simple terms, what it would mean? That system works if someone wants to pump some money into it? What it would mean for space travel? Or us?

CC: It would mean we could get a probe to Mars in a few days using amount of force that I can generate right now.

GK: Have you? Has it occurred to you that you make this presentation to the Pentagon you gave them a paper. You kind of laid it out. I don’t how specific you got, but has it occurred to you since you didn’t choose to do that work maybe they have somebody else to do it?

CC: I have… …I am relatively certain but the work was picked up and shared amongst different departments in the government (28’51”) including NASA. And the most recent news articles that have come out about NASA’s warp drive, ah, ‘electric propulsion’, that they like to call it, is based on that very early work of mine, from 2002. And that was based on a virtual moving mirror, a device that use a phase transition superconductor to pump, or you could say push, push the Zero Point Field, the quantum field and produce a propulsion force. I also ran those experiments myself, and was able to generate a very small amount of propulsion force. My work in the years since has enabled me to amplify the amount of thrust that I’m able to achieve, using the same physics but in a very, very different embodiment. (30’15”)

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GK: But Jeremy let me ask you. You’ve heard Chris’s explanation of this? The fact that he told the Pentagon about it in ’02. Makes you wonder whether some of these stories about Secret Space Program might relying on something a breakthrough that he made a while ago. What do you think?

JC: I find it really fascinating that one of people, who encouraged me greatly to follow Chris’s propulsion work, is highly involved in the Naval Space Programs and also just space programs in general. So, you know, I find it interesting that someone who’s been around the block with NASA and with all the Navy programs, you know is saying ‘This is it, this is interesting.’ And again I don’t think Chris is really telling you this detail. That just like you have a paddle-wheel for a boat, or you have an engine for air. The cool thing about the asymmetry within these nano meta-materials, I mean this is a new thing these materials, they push against a medium that is within the air, that is within the water, it is within outer space. It is a constant property that it can push against. So what Chris has developed in the space drive is essentially something that is continuous in any medium it can push against, that Chris has coined the quantum field. So it has very little limitations when you use it in any environment. And this is what’s so fascinating to me; this is a completely new concept for propulsion.

GK: So you can go to Mars in a couple of days. What other practical applications would there be for this thing?

CC: So the big money maker would be, for an operational Space Drive, be the recovery off assets from geosynchronous orbit, and beyond. Telecommunication satellites, when things go wrong for these very expensive systems - the cost of recovery to recover that asset to bring it down to low Earth orbit, repair the asset, and then return the asset to its operational altitude it is absolutely cost prohibitive. With a simple drone, using a simple space drone using this propulsion technology, even the amount of thrust I can develop today, would yield an incredible return on investment considering the number of assets that have failed, due to micro-asteroids, or to simple electronic failure, that could be repaired, if it were possible to ferry the assets back and forth.

JC: I’ve question to Chris if it’s ok?

GK: Sure

JC: I’m just curious. I’ve seen in multi levels of this device. You know I saw it on the air rail, on the oxcart, and then on the torsion pendulum, and the thing that always mystifies me… So you fire this thing up, it starts spinning in a vacuum, you can see right through it because it’s plexy on both sides. As it’s moving up an incline I can put my hand on the reverse side, and there is no air, there is no pushing anything that we know of! So it’s like magic, when I saw us the first time, it really was like magic. So, my question to you is like ‘Newtonian law something moving up an incline - it’s got to be pushing back? Something you have to have some kind of pushback. Where do you think this as its being propelled, what is it expelling into? What is the force? What is pushing into? This is one of the most fascinating things about seeing the Space Drive in action. (34’23”)

CC: So there’s this very vigorous debate in parlances of physics, concerning the nature of this quantum vacuum. And it is now experimentally seen and verified with the physics called Casimir Effect. You bring two contractors plates very close together, and at some point they slam together, there’s a force pulling together. And that is due to the exclusion of the Zero Point Field between the two plates. Interestingly, if you build a large metal box with conductor, the walls of the box don’t just collapse due to this force. So the question is how does this quantum field get inside the box? So, if we had a horse and we built a fence around the horse, so that they could graze the field. And then one day it rains and the horses get wet – we’re astonished because we built got a fence around the horses. How did the rain in to get the horses wet? (35’36”) The rain came in from a third dimension. If the Zero Point Field, the Zero Point Field photons as they are called coming in from a higher dimensional, then building a metal box conducting surfaces on all six sides of the box , in our three-dimensional space would prevent any electro-magnetic radiation from getting inside the box. But as this particular electro-magnetic radiation is coming in from high dimensions, maybe a fourth or a fifth dimension, then it would explain the phenomenon of how you can both have a measurable force that’s generated from the quantum field, and how the quantum field seems to get inside things that it shouldn’t. Just like your horses getting wet, even after you’ve built a fence around them.

GK: Wow that opens up a whole different kinda can of worms there! You’re not just talking about a propulsion system there; it’s a different model of reality! I mean it brings into the conversation multiverses and things of that sort…

JC: George, and it reminds me or something, when he first told me that it reminds me something spectacular. Chris and I visited with one scientist in Alma Gordo (37’01) who had worked on the nuclear program and is also been doing cold fusion work for the government, back in the day when they weren’t admitting it. And he had this really amazing theory about the UFO phenomenon. And when Chris described is pushing a force into another dimension, so we’re not experiencing like wind on your hand, but Space Drive is moving forward! But it’s pushing, expelling into another dimension. It goes right along with this absolutely wild theory, that this other scientists told Chris and myself, when we were there. Which was that his belief was that the Nuclear Program when we started detonating bombs, that’s kinda what alerted, in another dimension, these other beings, that were starting coming here. Again, that’s something again that’s way out there, but on a small scale the space drive, what Chris is really saying, as a layman I can understand it, is that we’re getting propulsion but what’s being expelled literally - expelling into another dimensional reality, that there’s waves of impacts in another dimension from what we’re doing here. So, that was a really interesting connection from this scientist that we talked with to Chris’s propulsion device. It may just be expelling into a different dimension. (38’17”)

GK: Well, Chris I can imagine the people, if there are people another dimension that I don’t want to breathe our exhaust? I mean I’m being facetious in a sense, but if they can feel it and we can’t, we might be attracting somebody else’s attention? Assuming there are people somewhere else?

CC: If the energy density of an atomic bomb sufficient to push subatomic particles out of our energy well, we call it ‘our universe’ and into somebody else’s energy well. They could very well be a visible in the event in adjacent spaces. Certainly with the Space Drive being able to operate within an enclosed metal box, speaks very strongly to, and if one holds to the conservation laws have to be extended to higher dimensional space, so that, for instance, for every action reaction there’s an equal and opposite reaction. If we’re using the quantum field to essentially push against it, in order to achieve propulsion, an equal and opposite reaction, that opposite reaction force could very well be spilling out into that high dimensional space.

GK: Wow, so it opens up all kinds of possibilities we have plenty of time to talk about in the next segment…. We’re going to get into cold fusion and a breakthrough that you’ve made… (40’23”)

END of the 2hr of the show

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Someone has put up the whole show here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e0HEHq8Rf4

My timings won't match this, but each hour long segment is generally edited down to 40mins.

[wotsup]

Thanks so much for doing this transcript and for the video link.
I pushed this interview all around my pals and groups because it got me really excited by its content.
But a few things I find a little worrying.
So far I haven't been able to find much on the web about Chris Cooper apart from his own stuff and those of Jeremy Corbell.
I would have expected there to be much more for a scientist of his stature.
Somebody who worked on the space program has told me that in the interview Chris got badly wrong how long it currently takes to get to Mars.
I don't have the details handy but I'm told his figure was wildly wrong - worrying?
I've also done a quick survey of croppie friends and the web and no other mention of this formation appearing round a group of trippers.
If six people had witnessed this, surely it would be a story which spread like wildfire.
Such a pity that George Knapp didn't ask him what the formation was so it could be identified and more research done.

I admit to not knowing much about cold fusion but Chris said no input but there is an output - if only half a watt to light the bulb.
But as I understand it the electricity was generated by heat differential which surely could have been caused by a number of issues?
A change in temperature in the lab for instance IS an input.
Overall I found this a fascinating interview but I need some factual reassurance that this is all for real and Chris is not a fantasist.
I guess it would help to research his anti-salination project which might at least prove something.....

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Very interesting...

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Welcome Wotsup

I haven't looked into his credentials yet but I trust Jeremy Corbell. They do shoot a lot of stuff in his labs.
I saw some electron microscopy of his nano fibres on one of his sites.
Try and find the water filters that shouldn't be too hard and post it here if you can.
A lot of his work is in the grey world and some probably classified but there must be some papers

His time for getting to Mars classically was two years that's not too far wrong, it depends where our respective orbits are. Here they say 150-300 days...
http://www.universetoday.com/14841/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-to-mars/

I been researching cold fusion for years people have been getting positive results since Pons and Fleischmann announced it 1989. There are still scientists all round the world researching it. He mentions Pete Hagelstein one of many.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_L._Hagelstein
More importantly and of greater interest here; the Navy have been doing LENR ( cold fusion) research for years, look up Pamela Mosier-Boss and Frank Gordon work at SPAWAR (Navy Labs) That work is now rumored to have gone black.
And if you listen to Ed Fouche who posts here the absolutely massive contracts that Bechtel won were for developing cold fusion.
http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1517-Secret-Navy-LENR-7-Billion-Nuclear-Propulsion-Deal&highlight=LENR
Recently an Italian Rossi claimed to have making a working 1kw generator. The US military were suggested to have been very interested.
The problem with LENR is it produces very little power. Be interesting to see if his is any good.

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HOUR 3 C2C

GK: We're talking with Nano-man, Chris Cooper and filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, about advanced propulsion systems, the possibility of interstellar travel and some of these topics invariably swerve pretty close to the subjects we're used to talking about on this program; UFOs, strange things in the sky, extra-terrestrials, other intelligences, other realities. In a moment, we pick our conversation about this strange quantum field theory that Chris Cooper has been exploring -how it could be put to practical use and then we are going back to the Utility Fog, this very strange nano-material that he found under some unusual circumstances, see if we can get him to tell that story and lot more to come... (0'54”)

GK: Chris Cooper in the last segment you were telling me about these ultimate possibilities if the Space Drive sort of be developed on a mass scale. Obviously there are applications for the development of space, commercial development of space; it eliminates a lot of the barriers and the cost for that. You said, 'We could Mars in like 3 days' so interplanetary travel would certainly be possible what about interstellar travel though. Do we need something more exotic than the Space Drive system we are talking about? To travel a distance that far? To another star system?

CC: No, I believe it's just a matter of systems integration. We've got cold fusion, we've got the extremely strong and durable materials, both needed for actually building a spacecraft and we've got a propulsion system that could take passengers, and cargo between stars.

GK: How long? How long though to the nearest star? How long does that take? If Mars is three days it would seem like it would take a long time?

CC: Mars with classic propulsion is a 2 year trip, so to cut 2 years to 2 days, and the fact we are doing serious modifications to the underling quantum field itself, would mean that travellers would, may not, experience the same space-time distortion that Einstein speaks of when you reach the speed of light. Imagine digging a tunnel from here to Alpha Centauri and then travelling through that tunnel instead of a trip using classic propulsion. So a trip from here to Alpha Centauri maybe a few months.

GK: Well certainly much more doable. (3'13”) Let me ask you this – you have been quoted, by Jeremy in some of his films, of saying, you know 'Humans could become in effect extraterrestrials' What I don't have a sense of is how comfortable you are in talking about some of the sort of the more classic applications of that term? The kinds of stuff that we cover on this program all the time? But I'll ask Jeremy that question first. Jeremy you've had conversations, you've got to know Chris really well. Is there a concern that he wants to be hands off with some of the more exotic options here because he wants to be taken seriously among colleagues? How do you see it? (3'51”)

JC: I mean Chris is a pretty fearless person. I've never noticed him to shy away from the infinite possibilities that are there. You know, tell me if I’m wrong Chris! But a lot of what he's derived inspiration from, are these things that seems to defy our known physics. I mean, I think he's very open to that stuff. You know he like us - we have big questions about it. For example, I brought Chris a piece of the alleged implant that was in Patient Seventeen, and Chris helped me read through the isotopic composition of object number 17. And we sat there together and the Zinc 64 was off by over 1%. I mean Chris was saying to me at the time, 'This is astounding, I mean this zinc is non-terrestrial it was not formed in our supernova. And you found it in a person? (4'45”) And it's things like this that we have experienced together, where I see Chris as a very open mind about it, quite frankly Chris it seemed like to me, when we first started documenting together. I mean man if you weren't building a spaceship man! I mean it was like from the material science to the cold fusion. I mean isn't it part of your idea that one day humanity can travel amongst the stars? And what you are working with is precisely going towards that? You know building some sort of spaceship to take humanity off planet.
CC: That is absolutely my ultimate goal; in all of these technologies is the ultimate survival of our species, and the ultimate survival of the life of this planet and to secure our future. It is absolutely my goal to take us off planet and to explore the rest of the galaxy, not from a observatory but boots on the ground.

GK: And are you inspired by some of the kinds of exotic subjects that we discuss on this program from time to time? Strange things seen in the sky? Stories about UFOs? Some other intelligence? Aliens?

CC: I am certainly inspired by the possibility that others have come before us.

JC: And you've seen some things Chris that you can't explain, you tasked me with doing an SEM (Scanning Electron Microscopy) one a substance which you could not explain and these nano-machines these micro-bots, all of this stuff seems to play some sort of role in your mentality of your current day physics and your hard core science that you are doing now?

GK: Utility Fog

CC: When you see some of these materials it defies any explanation, at least any classical explanation, as to the origin of these materials.

GK: Well let's talk about the Utility Fog, and I don't know if Jeremy came up with that name or that was the name you told him about. (7'08”) I don't know how you can describe in any detail how you got it? I'll leave it up to you how much you want to say.

CC: I wish I could take credit for the term Utility Fog, but unfortunately I can't. The term was coined many years ago at a nano-technology conference in 1994. And, at that time, it was a theoretical construct that was advanced; nano-technology, nano-machines could be built on the scale of, devices and machines built on a scale that would require a microscope even to see them. And in a large swarm they could all link together and act as a united device with millions of microscopic parts. This theoretical construct of Utility Fog is something as far as I know we are decades, if not centuries, away from actually making some of the exotic materials. As though there's nothing specifically in physics or chemistry that would preclude us from designing machines on that scale. (8'35”)

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GK: For the sample that you have, you have a sample and you had it analysed. Go ahead Jeremy...

JC: Well that was one of the most astounding moments for me, like as a film maker, you know, there's Chris, I'm filming his Space Drive and he's like. 'I do have a substance, that like, you know completely defies any substance I know. It's something we aspire to in nano-technology and do you want to see it?' And I'm like 'Yeah sure' He goes upstairs, comes back down, brings a vial of what looks like water to me, and shows it to me. And I’m like ' Chris, what is this?' And he's like 'Inside of this vial, this liquid is trillions and trillions of made nano-technological robots.' And I'm like 'What are you talking about?' You see this in my film, he brings out this image that he personally did the SEM for 9 years prior, showing it to me (9'30”) and he's showing me and he's doing this in the film. There's like these tiny little structures like graspers and clampers, I mean this is what he's seeing. And I'm like, 'Is he serious?' He shows me these images which were really astounding and tasks me with going to replicate these images at NASA. And sure enough they were in there we just had to change to beam parameters, which is wild we looked all day, couldn't find anything but clusters. So, this is my first experience in kinda seeing through Chris's eyes, of these nano-bots inside of this liquid and Chris maybe you can kinda of tell us what you think you are seeing here. I mean technology that we can't make at this time?
CC: The devices in this suspension of ethanol that looks like a little grey dust suspended in the ethanol when analysed with a scanning electron microscope, an electron microscope, you see these sort of like blobs don't look like much of anything but perhaps dust. (10'51”) And increase the beam energy and what emerges are these amazing array of what would appear to be microscopic gears, made on the nano scale, and the gears form into devices, graspers, manipulators etc. And although it's very difficult to identify a particular image, you scan across the sample and take in the chapter image. (11'38”) You start to find the exact same structure interchangeable parts. And when you start to see interchangeable parts that are very complex, highly engineered, microscopic devices that is what really got my attention.

GK: There's no way that could be natural?

CC: Natural biological, natural calcification of materials of microbes, life as we know, it doesn't build microstructures out of titanium.

GK: And that's what it's made of titanium? These little things?

CC: Yes

JC: You showed it to people at NIST isn't that right? Chris?

CC: Yes, I didn't show the images, I gave my friends at National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) outside of Washington DC, a sample of this material they were doing work for us, they were doing imaging work characterisation work for us with the carbon nanotubes water filters. So I decided to just include this material as a sample. I didn't tell them anything about it. I got a call from the director, the director at that time, director from the microelectronics group as NIST, just absolutely astounded about this particular sample... asked me a ton of questions... 'Where did it come from?' 'We've never seen anything like this before' 'What is this?' 'Where did you get it from?' 'It doesn't fit anything that we've ever seen'

GK: Did you tell them were you got it?

CC: No. No, I wasn't I wanted to preserve our relationship.

GK: Well that's... I'll just put you on the spot a little I'll ask ya. I understand you have some reticence about what you're going to say. Some I’m just going to ask you what you can say about how you got it and leave it at that. (14'03”)

CC: I received this material from a err, err, site that has been associated with the phenomena of many of your speakers... you talk about... on your show. And to preserve the scientific rigour and integrity of this, not just to say exactly where it came from, hoping that material like this will continue to be studied by other serious scientists...

GK: So basically you're saying it came from sort of unusual circumstances? The sorts of things the topics the exotics the sort of topics that we cover on this program?

JC: I mean I don't need to answer round about, I mean it's a high activity site where UFOs (15'16”) or that kinda of experience so as we know from Jacques Vallee famous work, who'll be speaking very soon, very exciting, at landing sites or in crop circles. There are oftentimes metallic discharges or dust left over, and this is one of those high activity sites, and Chris was able to get a number of samples, from a number of locations of this type of stuff that really seems to defy our known of nano-technology. So I think that's the most we should say about it until we get more and more tests.
GK: Has anyone else ever come up with another sample of it? Chris, that you know of?

CC: This particular material I have never seen referred to in the literature and through my various contacts and so far it's been unique.

GK: Let me ask you this; again I'm describing you of being on the cutting edge of nano-technology. If somebody in the world was able to make this stuff, out of titanium, small nanobots, interchangeable parts, you would know about it?

CC: I would know about it. (16'40”) Unless somebody or a group, it would take an extraordinary large effort, with more money than I can imagine to undertake this technological achievement. It's like finding an IPad that the ancient Greeks built in total secrecy.

GK: Let's say you could master this technology. Tomorrow you could duplicate these little nanobots what could you do with them?

CC: They would have great utility, the spectrum of capability, from disaster relief to uncover people from rubble under an earthquake. The ability of these nano-machinery to go in, repair arteries perform surgery; the material could be used for cleaning engine parts, repairing delicate instrumentation. The utility of this material is again the limit of your imagination.

GK: We had a program, a week ago tonight, that I hosted on AI, artificial intelligence, and its emergence, and there are people in the field, including probably your field, that worry about AI, the possibilities of nano-technology. For all its promise there are perils that come with it. There has been talk in the field about Grey Goo where the nanobots start becoming self-replicating - they see humans as a threat or no longer necessary and the whole planet ends up covered with a thick layer of nanobots that effectively form Grey Goo. What's your thoughts on that? (18'59)

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CC: Ah Yes, the theories of abound about possible the hazards of nano-technology. And from what I've seen in terms of our classic development task force this level of nano-technology would be capable of giving us a real Grey Goo scenario, I personally think we are centuries away from developing that technology. These materials these micro-nano-robotics, even carbon nanotubes have to be synthesized in extreme temperatures, under incredibly well controlled conditions. A computer chip has to be built under incredibly exacting conditions, using physical, chemical, vapour deposition...

GK: I'm going to interrupt you there... (20'10”)

GK: (21'43”) I wanna take one more stab before we leave this Utility Fog question. One more stab about the circumstances of how it was obtained. Because I think that's what people will remember about this show - this strange material that seems to defy rational explanation. Jeremy, you've seen the pictures, we've both seen pictures that you brought back from the lab. What's your take on it?

JC: Yes. It's ultimately fascinating whatever it is, I didn't even believe there was going to be anything in it. When I did the scanning electron microscope work and sure enough, we were able to image exactly what Chris imaged 10yrs ago. And you know I'm really gonna put Chris on the line here. You, he, we decided to go boldly into this and to tell the truth, and even if it's strange and we can't totally explain it. I think are testimony is real important, and one of the things that I believe led Chris into imaging and understanding the capabilities of these something like these micro-machines, was the personal experience he had as scientist, kind of on a vacation to go look into a very strange phenomenon. Which I'm not all that familiar with, I know you are George ,and I was hoping Chris that we might be able to the personal account of how you got mentally turned on to the idea that this Utility Fog might be used by a hyper/super intelligence to actually manipulate matter. Would you be willing to talk a little bit about your personal experience because it's really amazing, I have to say. (23'24”)

CC: Err, Yes, Science News published an article, prestigious journal, with a crop circles on the cover, on the front cover of Science News, and I think the title was something like 'Unknown geometry discovered in crop circle' [This seems to be the article https://www.sciencenews.org/article/theorems-wheat-fields] so I had a mild fascination with these, appearances of these amazing formations, and crop primarily in southern England. In 2004, I had an opportunity to spend several weeks in the field. And one afternoon, as I was studying a formation, and walking through a crop of wheat, suddenly, I was in the middle of a field that was actively having a crop circle form. And it was forming around me with nothing I'd ever seen before it was it would appear that the crops, the wheat, were simply laying down in a geometric pattern with unknown force. They were sort of laying themselves down and the only explanation was that the plants had to have been laid down with something that could really address the individual plants. And, in this particular case, weave them together in a very complex patterns, and if that something was Utility Fog, (26'03”) Utility Fog was certainly would certainly have the potential doing what I saw happening all around me, on this particular afternoon, on this particular day in southern England. And so that certainly intensified my interest in understanding some of this...

GK: Wow, that's huge! I don't recall anyone ever saying that they were ever in one of those circles when it formed. Could you feel anything? If it was Utility Fog or nanobots, was there any kind of reaction on your skin? Or your body?

CC: So I felt a little shocking, not just the tingling, but the whole general experience. And I was not alone, there were six other people in this particular formation with me, they were all just absolutely stunned by this display.

GK: That's like a life changing experience is it not?

CC: Certainly makes on rethink one's premises in what one thinks is possible.

JC: The funny thing about that was. When Chris was telling me about this, he was like, “This tour guide who had us out there. And it was his job, to like show the circles, and he was talking like he knew everything about it', and he said 'It looked the guy soiled himself' because he never expected it to be real, for it to form around him. So even the tour guide was speechless so I thought that was so funny.

GK: It maybe occurs to me - that it happened because you were there. (28'18”) They wanted it to somebody who experienced it, who can get it and put it to use almost. It's such a coincidence that it happened when a nano-physicist is the guy who is standing in the formation.

CC: And someone with carbon nanotube filters would be actually be capable of actually capturing some of this material.

GK: {Laughs} That's another pretty big coincidence!

CC: The tour guide was very surprised. I would say out of crops circles that I had seen over the two weeks, most of them could easily be explained by people with boards and ropes and I even met up with a couple of the folks who actually made some of these formations. A lot of them are manmade but some of them are not manmade.

GK: Sure the ones, I've been over there as well. And I've been in the formations that obviously the plants are bent, they are broken. (29'23”) But some of them are weaved, it's as though somehow they are weaved. And I know there's speculation that maybe its microwave, that sort of heats the plants at the stems, and that explanation has sort of gone away. Some kind of energy that we did not understand that makes the ones that are weaved, cause you don't do that with a board and your foot.

CC: And the formation that happened around me was not made with boards and ropes. That formation and others I intensify my study of the actual plant, and I found at the nodes of the plants, inside the formation, what looked microscopic burn marks. I called micro-nano-pyrotechnics looked like little micro-explosions caused the nodes to explode in a very programmed way, and occasionally there were misfires, sort of a microscopic burn mark along the shaft of the plant between the nodes. And outside the crop circle, wouldn’t see any of these phenomena, microscopic burn marks. So if it is Utility Fog, these micro-robots can certainly... do very exacting damage to the plant to cause them to lay down. (31'18”)

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Thanks Long Eyes.
Re the time to get to Mars - my informant worked on the Rover missions and points out that they got there in six months.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/overview/index.html
But as Chris had been discussing his drive getting passengers and freight there in two days instead of two years - he may have been suggesting with that extra payload it would take two years. Is that logical - I'm non techie so have no idea.
I'm still digging around his background.
Here is a link to his water purification company http://seldonwater.com/about-us/
BTW - is there a way of getting notifications of posts here. I can't find any way to do that.

[Longeyes]

No way to get notifications of posts.
Chris Cooper's claim to get there in 2 days refers to his Space Drive technology not conventional tech. As he says NASA missions use solid fuel, they rely on ejecting that matter at velocity to reach escape velocity from the earth. They then rely on solar power or nuclear power to power to unit, it is too costly to produce proper thrust after leaving earth orbit. The space drive pushes against the 'quantum field' I assume it will accelerate half way to Mars then decelerate closer to Mars. Cold fusion is essentially converting mass directly into energy just like the sun, e=mc2, so for a tiny amount of deuterium can produce a vast amount of energy, if slowly. It the best storage medium there is (mass) It depends on him using cold fusion to power his Space Drive two big unknowns.

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[Longeyes]

Thanks Garuda didn't know that.

The crop circle article link above is not working here is another link to it
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/theorems-wheat-fields

[Longeyes]

Here is a list of Chris's patents they include a lot of carbon nanotube tech and are some under the Seldon Technologies llc so it's definitely him

http://www.faqs.org/patents/inventor/christopher-h-cooper-windsor-us-1/
http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Cooper-Christopher-H/322185

And his dad William K Cooper
http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Cooper-William-K/7051568

[Longeyes]

This might be his paper in Physical Review Letters?

Fragmentation Partners from Collisional Dissociation of C60
R. Vandenbosch, B. P. Henry, C. Cooper, M. L. Gardel, J. F. Liang, and D. I. Will
Phys. Rev. Lett. 81, 1821 (1998) - Published 31 August 1998
Abstract

The collision dynamics of 75-keV C−60 with H2 gas has been studied. Coincidence measurements demonstrate that fragments such as C4 and C8 as well as the commonly assumed C2 species are fragmentation partners to heavy fragments. Odd- n as well as even- n light fragments are coincident with even- n heavy fragments, indicating sequential decay following the initial binary fragmentation. Periodicity in yield distributions suggests that rings as well as chains can be extracted from C60 and still leave a fullerene structure.

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From Wright Patternson AFB
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123135501


AFRL Field-Tests New Water Purification Device

2/13/2009 - WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Ohio -- AFRL worked with Seldon Technologies to develop filtration technology that transforms groundwater into potable water without electricity, ultraviolet light, harsh chemicals, or prolonged heating. The lab distributed this purification capability--in the form of two different devices--to Fort McCoy, Wisconsin, for field testing. Both devices employ enmeshed carbon nanotube filters to remove bacteria, viruses, endotoxins, and other molecular contaminants (e.g., heavy metals, halides). The WaterBox™ can clean up to 1,200 gallons at 1 gallon/minute, making it suitable for supplying entire units. Meanwhile, the smaller, lighter-weight WaterStick™ is ideal for personal use, offering a 70-gallon cleaning capacity ...

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No way to get notifications of posts.
Chris Cooper's claim to get there in 2 days refers to his Space Drive technology not conventional tech. As he says NASA missions use solid fuel, they rely on ejecting that matter at velocity to reach escape velocity from the earth. They then rely on solar power or nuclear power to power to unit, it is too costly to produce proper thrust after leaving earth orbit. The space drive pushes against the 'quantum field' I assume it will accelerate half way to Mars then decelerate closer to Mars. Cold fusion is essentially converting mass directly into energy just like the sun, e=mc2, so for a tiny amount of deuterium can produce a vast amount of energy, if slowly. It the best storage medium there is (mass) It depends on him using cold fusion to power his Space Drive two big unknowns.

No you misunderstand Long Eyes
See my earlier post.
He claimed his new technology would get to Mars in two days (Knap thought he'd said three) but with present technology it takes two years.
But the Mars Rovers took just six months.
But as I explained above maybe Cooper was talking about present technology with a crew and freight supplies etc which I presume would take longer with a heavier payload.

But here I would like to say a big thank you Long Eyes for transcribing this interview - a lot of hard work! Did you do it all yourself?

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No you misunderstand Long Eyes
See my earlier post.
He claimed his new technology would get to Mars in two days (Knapp thought he'd said three) but with present technology it takes two years.
But the Mars Rovers took just six months.
But as I explained above maybe Cooper was talking about present technology with a crew and freight supplies etc which I presume would take longer with a heavier payload.

But here I would like to say a big thank you Long Eyes for transcribing this interview - a lot of hard work! Did you do it all yourself?


I wouldn't think he's too far out anyway to be honest. It can take a year so depending on relative positions. It's an error but it's not his field, it's conversation and not a pitch.
Yes transcribing it myself had no time today to get any done yet.

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Final chunk of hr 3

GK: Let me ask you this Chris, you know some of the designs that, used to be just circles, then they became more complex over the years, and then obviously humans are doing some of them, maybe a lot of them, maybe nearly all of them, but some of the more interesting ones they have these mathematical connections. I think, I hope, I’m pronouncing this right, I remember one from some years ago a Mandelbrot kinda of a design. So many of the most interesting ones have these sorta advanced mathematical components to them, or am I overstating it? (31'49”)

CC: Yes, they certainly have. There's a lot of mathematics embedded in these geometries and from some of the crop circle makers that I met they have small groups that will try to figure out very complex geometries, it's become quite an art-form. The ones that really interested me, that were really off the beaten path, where you have to hike a couple of miles in on farmers land. I would always ask the farmer for permission, obviously and go out on a hike to find some these circles no one even knew about. And these were the most interesting, you look at the lay of the land for instance, maybe there was a slope to the land, and the circle would be misformed - not quite round, project that circle onto a flat plan and it's suddenly a perfect circle. Whoever was able to make have a perfect understanding of the topology of the land, in order to map that topology into the circle? So the only way to see the true geometry would be to remap that onto a flat plane. (33'37”) These complexities just not I don't think it's possible to do with rope and boards.

GK: So what's your general take on it? Or do you have one? Do you think it's an effort to communication? Is it art? Is it graffiti by some other intelligence? What's going on there?

CC: I have no idea, who, what, where or how. It's certainly a display of intelligence. These things are made and we maybe even have clues as to how they made; the pits and shovels – this Utility Fog if you will. Who's behind it? I have no idea. That's the mystery. (34'40”)

GK: Jeremy for you as a film maker that's a challenge for you. You’re making a, you wanna have a degree of separation between you and wildest stuff, even though Chris has been willing today tonight to share this with us, at considerable risk, I would say. You have to put it in categories I guess? As you're as making films about his work?

JC: Yeah I mean look I’ll take it on. The thing with Chris is he's the most honest person I've ever met; you know he just says it as it is if he doesn't know it, he doesn't know it. There's this awesome story, I don't know if it's classified or he had the privileges to talk about, but it was about weaponry and he had to go to Los Alamos to kinda of talk about it because he overheard some stuff. This is a guy who has a real strong moral compass. Now when he tells me these extraordinary stories, (35'38”) I mean every time I look into them there is substance. Just like with the Utility Fog it's just if it's coming from Chris I'm willing to investigate it. Normal Dr Lier alleged, sure enough I got fascinated by it so if there's an element of truth then I know I’m in good hands with a scientist like Chris. I will look into it.

GK: Well here's the thing Chris, now that you have shared this story it opens up a whole new realm of possible research by folks who are earnestly trying to get to the bottom of crop formation mystery the argo-glyphs. This could give them new tools to approach that, that work? I mean they're chasing around these old barflies who go out with boards, or crazy college kids who wanna mystify farmers and create a media stir, but there is a legitimate chance for straightforward research, if folks have the right gear, and the right approach. Don't you think? (36'46”)

CC: Certainly there's, there's a lot to this story than college kids with nothing to do.

JC: And didn't you say when you observed this, which, oh my gosh! I wish I’d seen anything like this. When you observed this was there a shimmering in the air if I remember it correctly the story?

CC: Yes. Yes. And the shimmering in the air would be consistent with the concept of the Utility Fog type of material at work.

GK: Have you err, have you give thought to how this stuff is projected and from where? I mean is it … I mean people on this program would think there must be an alien spaceship hovering above and they projected it down somehow. Or some kind of orbiting platform but I guess it doesn't necessarily have to come from something like that?

CC: No. No. No there's been quite a lot of speculation in the hard-core nano, theoretical nano-technologies and engineering work, where you simply set up a local area network between these microscopic robots, some of their arms are communication arms, some transmit power, others transmit force. Think of a colony of ants they can all hold hands together, and form into structure. You instantly have nodes that would be higher level communications nodes - decision makers. Those decision makers would be telling the rest of the army of drones, microscopic drones when to do and when to do it. (38'46”) They could all act as a collective.

GK: So I guess the question, the other question is from where? Where does that come from? Does this go back to, I not asking to pin you down but could it come for some other place? Some other reality? You were talking about higher dimensions things of that sort. Is that what we are talking about? Or could it just come from somewhere else on Earth? In this reality?

CC: For this to have been designed machined developed manufactured by any of the usual suspects, from the US, from a military research lab, or university, the chances of that are just astronomically small. I believe we are decades if not centuries from actually building and deploying a network of microscopic robots. In terms of then... where do they come from? You have to start question if some of these extraordinary possible explanations of.. where did they come from?

GK: Well we'll pick that up on the other side...

END of hr 3

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No you misunderstand Long Eyes
See my earlier post.
He claimed his new technology would get to Mars in two days (Knap thought he'd said three) but with present technology it takes two years.
But the Mars Rovers took just six months.
But as I explained above maybe Cooper was talking about present technology with a crew and freight supplies etc which I presume would take longer with a heavier payload.

But here I would like to say a big thank you Long Eyes for transcribing this interview - a lot of hard work! Did you do it all yourself?
Been awhile since college Astronomy class, but if I recall correctly Earth & Mars are close to each other once every two years. So suspect 2 years is a round trip estimate. 6 months travel time to Mars when it is close. Wait a year for the near alignment to approach again (time could be spent doing exploration), then six months for return trip. Two years total, round trip.
Launching any earlier would place you farther away. Take longer & use more fuel.

Two days for such a trip would be unbelievable!

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Been away from the forum for awhile, just stopping by now and again. This thread has brought me back. Most interesting. Thanks for your work with transcription, Longeyes!

[Longeyes]

Hour 4 C2C Nanoman Show

GK: We’re talking with ‘The Nanoman’ Chris Cooper and filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, and we’ve already have some pretty astonishing things so far about the discovery this stuff called Utility Fog, In which, titanium nanobots are shown under electron-microscopes and this sample was amazing stuff, was obtained from a crop formation that our guest, Chris Cooper was present along with five other people, when this thing sorta formed around them. That it sorta opened his eyes to other possibilities, and it’s been a factor and research that’s led to among of other things a Space Drive System that the Pentagon was interested in for a while. But there’s one more big development that we’ve only hinted about and that deals with cold fusion... (01’08”)

GK: Jeremy Corbell (1’16”) and let you set up this audio clip we are about to hear. I’m not sure you knew when he started working on this project with Chris Cooper that you’d… his research would take you into the area of cold fusion, or what your general knowledge of confusion was. I know that, in general, for a while we had and what look like a breakthrough by those guys Fleischmann and Pons, and then suddenly was discredited. And it seemed like whole thing went away or went underground or behind the scenes. But, you know in the public eye, it probably seemed pie in the sky. So why don’t you set up what we’re about to hear. (1’55”) What was going on as you working on this part of the project?

JC: Yeah, I mean, all of this has been a scientific learning curve with me, with a lot of my films, with Patient Seventeen, and all my work with Chris Cooper. You know, you realise you do a lot of sitting around, waiting to something to happen when you do a documentary. This experience is fantastic. We had spent a number of days talking about these breakthroughs that Chris was having with a number of scientists working on cold fusion. I must add, in 2007 Lawrence Livermore, Chris did achieve workable cold fusion, but he really wants to commercialise it was upscale it. (2’41”) So we’re there, and we’re going to the laboratory, and I think it was two days before were supposed to be go to this laboratory, and he’s saying ‘you know, we are gonna have this breakthrough. I’m sure we’ve got it to a level now’. And I said,’ Well, I have to film something - it’s a visual medium.’ And that’s when the idea of the light bulb came in. Well, if we can illuminate something it’s really gonna show the audience that your reaction has possibilities. You know, because to me this cold fusion this concept away outside myself. The way it could transform the world is so significant, so there I am, his father had put together this electronics package that would be able to take the temperature differential and turn it into electric power, if indeed we achieved, on that day, a true cold fusion reaction. And there we are, he sets it up, and it’s like one of the scientific days, you like, ‘Oh bummer it didn’t work’. So, we’re sitting there for about an hour, and they’re tinkering with getting the wiring right, and so I just start filming other stuff. I ‘m shooting ‘B’ roll of all this strange, Frankenstein equipment, that’s in this house. And then as my cameras just filming some device in another room, you can hear Chris screaming ‘Jeremy!! I can’t believe it!’ There was this incredible opportunity. Were just the camera happened to be rolling, you know, right when this happened. So that’s not audio clip you can hear; and I have full video of this diode being lit, which we think is the first time light bulb was ever been engaged through true cold fusion. So this is a kind of monumental historic moment and you’ll hear the audio and the excitement of my really nerdy friend who I love dearly Chris Cooper…

GK: Alright let’s play it. Play it and then let’s talk about.

AUDIO CLIP (4’29”)
CC: Oh my god Jeremy it’s working! …Oh my god!
There it is! There it is! I’m not going to touch it.
Come around, come around. I’m going to touch it. It’s blinking
JC: Where is it?
CC: Right over here you have to around
Dennis: Real electric power there we go! Oh my god Holy sh*t it really is working!
JC: Okay can I get a light on?
Dennis: I can’t you did it! We did it!
JC: Okay can I get a light on here?
Dennis: Oh my god
JC: Okay hold on guys
Dennis: Okayyyyyy! Oh man! Oh my God!
CC: You wanna get a picture of the thing?
Dennis: I can’t believe this. You get one fusion reactor with net power that’s burning a light… that’s infinite power… and he gets excited?!
CC (Might Chris’s dad): Go figure! Go figure! Dennis, this is bigger than the atomic bomb you know that, you even said it yourself.
Dennis: No it’s not - its a little biddy thing
CC (Same voice as above): Yeah, a little biddy thing
Dennis: The sphere is about the size of the uranium core of a bomb.
CC: Yeah, yeah.
JC: Okay guys hold on there I need some explanation.
Dennis: You wanna see this thing running here?
CC: Oh my god…
END AUDIO CLIP

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GK: Jeremy’s gonna the post audio and video on his website extraordinarybeliefs.com. Chris walks us through that? How did you do that? Is it replicable? And what does is it mean? (6’07”)

CC: So, so the experiment was conducted in a completely enclosed sphere, of brass. Inside the sphere was the material cold fusion catalyst, in an atmosphere of hydrogen and deuterium, and this is the most remarkable cold fusion experiment I’ve ever seen because there is no input power. And what that means is, that the coefficient of performance, is basically a ratio of power in to the power out, but in this case there’s no power in. the whole thing is at room temperature and the device is as an elevated temperature. It has CHT so it’s COP, it’s coefficient of performance, is infinite. Zero power in real measurable power out. This was the most, is still the most extraordinary day of my scientific life - to actually see an electronic harvesting circuit, harvesting enough electro-power from the set of ?Poltee? devices around the outside the sphere. And it was able to, actually collect that’s thermal power, moving through ?Calseea? to convert that to electrical power. The energy harvesting circuit would collect enough of that power, to then light up an LED. And then it would flash an LED about once every second or so. And as far as I know that experiment demonstrating thermal to electric conversion, on cold fusion device, that required a zero input power had never been done before…

GK: Chris, this changes cold fusion…

CC: This is one of the most significant experiments in cold fusion, and can in my experience; it may very well be the most significant cold fusion experiment of all time.

GK: I mean it changes everything. Cold fusion changes everything right?

CC: Absolutely. There’s zero environmental impact, there is no radiation and the by-product of cold fusion is helium. Helium is a harmless gas that is used to inflate weather balloons, inflate balloons at a party, so absolutely benign, environmentally friendly and inexhaustible.

GK: You know I would think, but if you, I had made that breakthrough - that’s all I’d be working on even though your other stuff is all very interesting. That when you look at the ultimate potential of cold fusion, that’s my entire energy would be devoted there?

CC: So my current energy is devoted toward a carbon based material that is conductive, has extremely large surface area etc. And so the materials that I’m currently working on scaling up for manufacturing; this carbon nanotube thread and cable, is one of the potential products for this material I’m working on… is cold fusion. (10’22”)

GK: So it’s all kind of related? Cold fusion, space drive, carbon nanotubes? It’s all the same project just different aspects of it?

CC: It all uses the same platform technology.

GK: Jeremy, you’ve got that on film seems like that would be really big news?

JC: Well it is the first time anyone is hearing about it. I mean a lot of what I’ve filmed it’s behind by year, a couple years, you need to film it, you need to edit it. I do everything myself. So this is our first opportunity to kinda announce to the world, that Chris has, in his work, along with a few other cold fusion scientists achieved something which is truly remarkable. And a first and yes, it’s captured on film and there’s more to come on that. You get a little five minute free piece, and then I going to edit that entire series on cold fusion. So, I’m very excited I mean this a first to announce it on coast.

GK: And Chris do you publish? On that? Do you have any plans to share with colleagues it’s over for your forum or venue?

CC: So, the… my primary interest is to get these technologies commercialised, and viable commercialisation passes through the standard, raise money, build a team. Do the heavy lifting it takes to really optimise, optimise the process, optimise the material and get ready for prime time. So, I prefer to speak quietly and work diligently and deliver real products. Whereas when one looks the current state of cold fusion, there’s a lot of people talking about it and very few people actually doing anything about it. So there’s plenty of people being very vocal, and it’s just not my style I suppose.

GK: You mean people flapping their gums are not really doing the heavy lifting?

CC: Yes

GK: Okay, tell me this. So you know you shown it can be done in a lab? And if your work is in the carbon nanotube type of area? Can you protect the work that you’ve done? Patent it? Or otherwise prevented it from been stolen from you? I would imagine you wanna share it with humanity at some point?

CC: Yes, in fact the carbon nanotube cold fusion work, that I’ve done, has been patented, and was verified at Lawrence Livermore National labs.

GK: It was?

CC: Yes

GK: And is it published? Is it out general scientific community is it known?

CC: No, no, it’s not. It was a work for others contract back, in 2007, and I have been far more focused on the heavy lifting of commercialising these technologies and a lot was focused on publication and so forth.

GK: I would imagine that with this breakthrough that you’ve made the making a practical application of cold fusion putting it into a commercial point would take enormous amounts of resources? (14’44”)

CC: Ah yes. However, there’s enormous leverage that can be achieved through modern technology. What used to take incredible resources, back when I was commercialising the carbon nanotube energy filtering material, where we had to hire, you know, dozens of scientists to do the optimisation of these materials. Today, it’s really much more suited toward automated materials discovery….

GK: So Jeremy talk…

CC: …it takes less and less resources if the technology around you is advancing at the rate that it currently is.

GK: Who else is currently doing good stuff? Good work on cold fusion, Chris?

CC: There’s as a number of, there’s a number of groups doing really good work in this field of cold fusion. Researchers there probably two dozen researchers, that are currently in laboratories, that are doing really ground breaking work in this field. The work of Peter Hagelstein professor at MIT has most significant breakthroughs in the theoretical underpinnings of cold fusion.

GK: And Jeremy your plans for the material you have? It’s more than one film project?

JC: I mean there’s 3 to 4 primary film projects. So, I’ve been following Chris for a number of years. So, just now I’m going to be able to release the second episode, in the Nanoman series, called ‘Space Drive’. And that’s actually, in February, it’s going to premier at the International UFO Congress. And at that night which is mid-December, it will be available as the second episode to download and watch. That’s my goal to slowly turnout, turnout different episodes about Chris’s work. So now, obviously I have to get into and cut the cold fusion piece, into its full glory, because people now know about it. So each piece kinda comes out like that… so we have ‘Cold Fusion’, ‘Space Drive’, the ‘Utility Fog’ If I can get a part 2 on that, and then also the work that Chris is doing with carbon nanotubes and the weaving all of these materials which have incredible properties. (17’33”)

GK: Chris the other voice we heard in that audio clip, we heard Jeremy, we recognise your voice, that other voice was your father. Tell me about his role in the work that you guys are doing must be really proud moment for him as well?

CC: Actually that was the voice of one of our other scientists, who has been working in the field of cold fusion since before Pons and Fleischman. And he was doing work in the field of cold fusion for the U.S. Air Force long before Pons and Fleischman.

GK: Well that was still a pretty exciting moment for him then?

CC: It certainly was.

GK: You’ve had conversations since then with him?

CC: Yes he is... we are continuing to collaborate on bringing this effect and this technology to commercial levels of power production.

GK: And let me ask you about your father then, because I having seen those videos clips, I’d assumed that’s who we were seeing. Is he involved directly in this part of the work?

CC: Yes, my father has been involved in this research even joined me for campaigns out at Lawrence Livermore in 2007. He is an accomplished electric engineer, worked at White Sands Missile Range and is very good at building feedback control systems.

GK: Well he must have pretty proud as he heard that news….we are going to take a break… (19’20”)

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GK: We’re talking with Chris Cooper and Jeremy Corbell (20’18”) about some pretty amazing scientific and technical developments that could pretty much change everything as we know it… Our final segment of a very interesting show here on Coast-to-coast. Jeremy before we go to the phones. I know that you’ve had some interaction with Chris’s dad and have some reflections on how proud he is and the kind of exotic work the father has done as well as the son.

JC: Yeah, his father is really incredible, and the way they work together is really unique. I remember coming home from the diode or the light bulb experiment and his father was like wanting to know, ’Did it work? Did we achieve it?’ And I said’ Well, yeah it worked we achieved it’ you know, ‘How big is the scientific discovery?’ And he’s a really thoughtful quiet man of few words. And he turned to me never really this open, and says, ‘You know this is on par ,this discovery, this experiment, is on par with the discovery of fire’ and when he said that - it really struck me. It really struck me that a man of his credentials and his scientific rigour would go that far, and say that this was that important this discovery and I surely hope is.

GK: Well must be fun to talk about around the family dinner table Chris?

CC: [LAUGHS} Yes it is

GK: Let’s take a couple calls, the first time caller Billy…. (22’04”)

BILLY: Yes, can you hear me?

GK: What’s on your mind? Billy? (22’30)

BILLY: I want to thank you for taking my call. It’s really is a great show tonight and I wanted to know is cold fusion technology can be used in automobiles? And if your guests would be kind enough to build me one?

GK: [LAUGHS] So, is there an application in transportation?

CC: Yes in fact the scientist you heard during the clip is currently installing an electric motor into a Model A Ford and intends to drive this vehicle across country, fully powered by his cold fusion device, and I’m supporting in that work as well.

GK: Jeremy you’re going to have to talk him into letting you take a camera along for that trip!

JC: I was already had that conversation. It was something I was not allowed to talk about, but since Chris talked about it. Going into that garage and seeing the old Ford, and then thinking about it being run on cold fusion, I am sitting in that passenger seat. Ha ha hah

GK: Well, Billy thanks for the call. Appreciate it… (23’42”)

(Skipped next caller off topic)

GK: We’re talking to Steve from Albany New York. Hi Steve! (26’00”)

STEVE: Hi, I got a question… I’m going to throw something out there… Have you ever heard of Bucky balls?

CC: Yes, in fact my Master’s thesis, at the University of Washington, was on Bucky balls, back in 1994, an extraordinary material, but very, very difficult to commercialise, because the carbon nanotube has so many of the same properties as Bucky ball, and because it’s in the format of a fibre instead of a ball, same exact carbon structure. I decided to basically pursue carbon nanotube commercialisation. (27”02”)

STEVE: OK with Bucky balls you could infuse certain elements and create almost superconductors. Could you do this with the carbon fibres? Whatever happened to superconductors? I was in the Navy about ’85- ’86, there was a big thing about superconductors, and then you never heard of it again. And I was wondering if you’re using carbon tubes you both use Bucky balls and these elements, I can’t remember what they were using, probably come up with some more materials you’d get electricity cheaper?

CC: Yes, in fact I have come across papers in the literature, where people have been able to synthesise ‘peas in a pod’ so you have carbon nanotube on the outside, with Bucky balls filling the inside of the nanotube. Extraordinary structures and there have been many papers disclosing the superconducting properties of those materials, again extraordinarily difficult to fabricate and even harder to separate from other types of carbon materials. I think that these are all structures that will lead to a continuing technological revolution in nanotechnology, as myself and others, learn how to really harness the synthetic processes for making those structures

GK: Thanks for the call Steve really appreciated it. (28’56”) We’re to go to Ed, in Connecticut, on the wild card line. Ed, how you doing?

ED: Thanks for taking the call, George. I’ve a question of you Chris, pretty too much a two part about these nanobots. In regards to their specific capabilities: A) Do you believe that they to be used in a vehicle to disrupt the bearings of real wheel vehicle, those bearings in the front wheel, they disrupt that mechanically? While in use? And B) could they be used to have somebody do something beyond their control? Maybe if they are on some kind of anti-depression drug, or something along those lines? Some type of medication?

CC: Yes indeed. What I’ve seen in the field is a form of Utility Fog. If this material is in our environment, many possibilities may exist, in terms of terms of things we don’t understand, there was certainly a time when people got sick and we had no theory of bacteria, or virus to explain why people got sick. There may be many, many strange anomalies that could be, this could be the cause of very difficult to hunt down, particularly this Utility Fog and doesn’t want be found. It would be extraordinarily difficult to extract from environment unless it was willing to let’s let you study it.

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GK: Thanks Ed. That raises some interesting possibilities. That’s for sure. We’re going to west of the Rockies to Scott, in California who is not a big fan of cold fusion. Scott, hi, you are on with Chris and Jeremy.

SCOTT: Hi. The thing is about what he’s probably doing is, is he’s probably doing some sort of unknown chemical reaction, it’s not cold fusion, because the reason that you have to put energy in get cold fusion is because the atoms are tightly together by very powerful forces. I’m sure he knows this as a physicist. I’ve had several physics classes myself and I’ve talked to all professors about it. The first thing I do is I asked them about cold fusion. And they all say, ‘It’s got a chemical reaction’ because, it may be an unknown chemical reaction I’ll grant them that, and I’m not saying he’s doing a fraud. It’s not conventional physics to be able to fuse atoms together. It’s just because they are held together for a reason. That’s why you got an atom. There’s very powerful forces electrical forces holding those atoms to the nucleus and you’re not to gonna fuse pull ‘em apart and fuse them, like he’s talking about and so I don’t think that’s what he’s doing.

GK: So, good point Scott. Okay alright

SCOTT: Get him to explain it

GK: Okay we’ll let him.

CC: That is a very good point and to tell you the truth, I suspect many cold fusion experiments, out there, are fact chemical reaction .So in order to separate the wheat from the chaff, if you will, you also really need to look for other key signatures. So, one of the things that we found from our actual cold fusion experiments, and it’s a difficult measurement to make, you will see often you’ll see soft x-ray, from the reaction. Of course, in virtually all these cold fusion experiments they are inside a container that will absorb the soft x-rays. The other thing that you’ll see when a cold fusion experiment, goes sideways, or you don’t have a enough atoms in the process, you can see some gamma rays from time to time come from these experiments and this type of radiation can’t come from classic chemistry. In terms of the overcoming the Coulomb barrier the atoms are held very tightly held together. I would refer you to some the work that Peter Hagelstein has done from MIT, and he has gone through just an extensive amount of research, analysing cold fusion experiments and coming up with what appears to be a pretty unified theory of how one can overcome these, almost impossible, barriers to creating this effect. So I agree and I was a sceptic, a very strong sceptic of cold fusion up until this point when, years ago, at Lawrence Livermore we were going through the data with some of the scientists from Livermore, and it was the scientists at Livermore who had to convince me, that what we were doing was actually cool fusion, so I hope that answers your question.

GK: Thanks Scott

SCOTT: Well, yes it does. That is good information I can follow up on thank you.

GK: Yeah great. (35’08) That was a great point I think also, as a follow to up to what Scott was saying, you know, at some level the accepted view in the general scientific community is exactly as he described is it. ‘Cold fusion is not possible’. I guess cutting edge stuff folks at your level see it differently?

CC: Yes, that’s right there are top scientists out there, at top institutions, like MIT and Livermore that believe it is absolutely possible within the rules of physics.

GK: Are you then Chris are you optimistic in the long run the big picture? So much of the news is bad. What’s happening to the planet? Doesn’t seem to away out? There’s so much that since be going wrong are you genuinely optimistic if some of these things to come fruition?

CC: Oh absolutely. We’re just on the verge, of absolutely new technological revolution, with all of these technologies, and you’ll often see a great deal of pessimism shortly before a new renaissance. I see a whole new Renaissance in science and technology coming out at full gale force. And it will take economics professors in Wall Street by surprise. The cost for achieving these breakthroughs in science are dropping rapidly as we see exponential computational technology aid folks, in private laboratories around the world, who have very little resources, but suddenly have access to powerful technologies to help push edge of science further.

GK: We have about a minute left. Jeremy, I wanna give you chance to tell us what you’re working on and what comes next. We have links to your extraordinarybeliefs.com website and also to Chris sights, and I hope listen sceptical will check those out… (37’42)

JC: So, I’m speaking at the International UFO conference with the Jacque Vallee, definitely check that out. And then I’ll be speaking at Contact which is a really cool thing, in my neck of the woods. Definitely check those out; I would encourage everyone to go to Chris’s websites. What I’ve seen Chris achieve, and what I’ve seen him do as an incredible scientist is unparalleled, sometimes it looks like magic, sceptic or not we invite you all go to Chris’s websites, learn about what he’s doing and try to become part of this solution. And so that’s my last word. Thanks for having me on. Chris, go ahead.

CC: Well thank you so much also for having me on. It’s been a real pleasure for the last three hours, and I would encourage everyone to check out Jeremy’s documentary work. He is an extraordinary film and cinematographer, the work he puts together is extraordinary.

GK: Chris thanks for being here… (38’58”)

THE END

[Longeyes]

Hope that makes good reading folks.
The list of astonishing revelations in the interview are quite profound.

Nanobots in crop circles
Alleged alien implants with ratios of isotopes not from the super nova that created our solar system.
Gravity Probe B was a time experiment? In some way of course but it was never about sending messages back in time. Or was it?
We can push against the 'quantum field' and reach for the stars with the Star Drive.
Cold fusion was being studied by the US Air Force long before Pons and Fleischmann even did there experiments! It explains why the whole thing was so vigorously crushed and why Eugene Mallove died in such mysterious circumstances. It was already black and I have little doubt some secretly has been desperately trying to be back-engineered for years from ET craft before Fleischmann the greatest electro-chemist of his day in some small fashion cracked it.
We can now have free energy we only have to wait before Chris Cooper makes a working model. I would be interested to know what he thinks of Steorn's ORBO OCube, the Blacklight company and Rossi's E-cat.
Dennis is Dennis Craven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpiVyTYn0Sg
This could be the year that cold fusion goes mainstream. This story needs to get out there so spread the word people.
I have emailed Jeremy Corbell and he said might come here and have a look what is going on. I can't promise anything but if anyone posts any questions for him I will pass them on.

[Longeyes]

From
http://www.apolloresourcecorporation.com/

You can invest in Chris's Nanotube cables here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1239850731/carbon-nanotube-cables-apollos-gateway-to-the-star

[Longeyes]

This must be Chris's paper in American journal of physics

http://scitation.aip.org/content/aapt/journal/ajp/80/8/10.1119/1.4730599

On energy transfers in reflection of light by a moving mirror
G. Goedecke1,a), V. Toussaint1,b) and C. Cooper1,c)

ABSTRACT
Using independent wave and photon approaches, the energy transfers from a finite duration radiation pulse normally incident from vacuum on a mirror moving uniformly in the pulse propagation direction are derived. The classical sinusoidal wavetrain approach yields the quantum-like result that the ratio of the total energy in the reflected pulse to that in the incident pulse is equal to the corresponding ratio of their frequencies. Both approaches reveal that although the conventional sinusoidal plane wave reflection coefficient for the moving mirror does not have unit magnitude, there is no violation of energy conservation for pulses of finite duration. Instead, the energy in the incident pulse is partly transferred to the stretched or compressed Doppler-shifted reflected pulse, and partly converted to work done on the mirror. This work is negative if the mirror is moving toward the source/detector, resulting in a reflected pulse more energetic and shorter than the incident one, much more so as the relative speed approaches lightspeed.

Received 21 October 2011 Accepted 07 June 2012 Published online 17 July 2012


This sounds like the mirror for his Space Drive he pitched to NASA, but an updated version.

[earthman]

Have longeye's after reading all that.. He is my Nabors friend. I didn't realize who he wanted me to friend o facebook until I noticed he was going to be the UFO Congress. Then this post came up. Small world. . I'll be able to meet him in a few weeks.

[Longeyes]

Small world Earthman

Found one more link to all seldon's water purifier products
http://seldonwater.com/products/

[earthman]

Man, there giving these guys a hard time at ATS.. They had been posting over there about our cubesat project and I heard so much crap, like there shooting it down, or were stupid. I didn't find them talking about us intil a week ago. Nice folks over there. Guess that's why I hadn't signed in there since 2011... intil a week ago. Had to answer all the crap about me and my team on the Cube Sat.

[Longeyes]

Yep it's got a bigger audience than here, but it's a bit like a twitter feed and covered in advertising. Ironically you can't promote anything, even if you just think its worthwhile.
If you put anything intelligent up, it just gets lost in the constant bickering.

Some people don't seem unable to see when something rings true and is real deal. They expect the answers to come to them. There is so much check-able info in this interview - some of it we've checked. It all checks out so far and you can find the answers. When someone is lying none of their information holds together, and it is impossible to check out. Being skeptical is great but don't shoot someone down without bothering to check -we just end up being lost in a endless cycle of confusion.

This story should have proper journalists covering it but there are so few with the time or the instincts.
It's about 4 massive stories even if the guy turns out to not be great as he appears.

[majicbar]

"Corbell also told the story of going to NASA's Ames Research Laboratory with a small vial of liquid that Cooper had given to him with what looked like metallic dust mixed in. When placed under an electron microscope, the "dust" appeared to be countless microminiature devices composed of "gears,"graspers," and other apparently machined artifacts. They called this substance "utility fog," a term coined in the 1990s, which refers to the theory of large groups of nanobots designed to perform a task at a molecular level. Cooper suggested that the material in the vial was collected in the aftermath of a UFO incident,......."

This reminds me of an incident where a contactee was told that the aliens that he was in contact with, had told him that they constructed the shells of their 'to be UFOs' and they were then taken to a planet where they were left for some time, (months?) and when they were retrieved they were "different and working", that in that time an unseen force on that planet had transformed them into being a UFO. It sounds like this planet had been infected with nanorobots which worked to transform the inert shell into becoming a UFO. I don't remember who the contactee was, perhaps Betty Andresen?

[epo333]

Man, there giving these guys a hard time at ATS.. They had been posting over there about our cubesat project and I heard so much crap, like there shooting it down, or were stupid. I didn't find them talking about us intil a week ago. Nice folks over there. Guess that's why I hadn't signed in there since 2011... intil a week ago. Had to answer all the crap about me and my team on the Cube Sat.

. . .I dumped ATS in 2006 and never looked back . . .!

[Longeyes]

Really good article on Seldon Technologies, seems the carbon nanotubes may never have been the reason why the filter worked so well and the company is serious trouble..

http://www.vnews.com/home/19204911-95/breakthrough-to-bust-the-rise-and-fall-of-seldon-technologies

In fact this article 11 Nov mentions the company auctioning off everything on Dec 3 2015

http://www.vermontbiz.com/news/november/hirchak-auction-seldon-technologies-equipment-dec-3

The actual auction
http://thcauction.com/12032015SeldonTechnologies.html

[wotsup]

Were you guys all aware that Chris Cooper's story of witnessing a crop circle forming around him, has been called into question by Nancy Talbott.
She claims he lied about the nano powder which did in fact come from a phone which caught fire at the home of psychic Robbert van den Broeke in Holland who she has researched for years.
You can find all the info on Nancy Talbott's Facebook page - scroll down and there are about eight postings on the subject.

[wotsup]

Her Facebook page link
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009354713899&pnref=story

[Longeyes]

No very interesting will contact jeremy Corbell see what he says

[Garuda]

Were you guys all aware that Chris Cooper's story of witnessing a crop circle forming around him, has been called into question by Nancy Talbott.
She claims he lied about the nano powder which did in fact come from a phone which caught fire at the home of psychic Robbert van den Broeke in Holland who she has researched for years.
You can find all the info on Nancy Talbott's Facebook page - scroll down and there are about eight postings on the subject.

I don't think anybody here on the forum still takes Nancy Talbott seriously, as she keeps on promoting Robbert van den Broeke whom we have shown conclusively is a hoaxer. Cf. e.g.: http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?168-UFO-misperceptions-samples&p=1579&viewfull=1#post1579

[wotsup]

No very interesting will contact jeremy Corbell see what he says

Jeremy, currently at a UFO conference, has very little to say about it and probably knows no more than Cooper said on the show.
Certainly his crop circle formation story with six witnesses is hardly credible. Somebody would have come forward by now.
Maybe he made it up on the spot because he doesn't want to taint his science with the dubious reputation of Robbert van deb Broeke who incidentally, I happen to believe has paranormal talents, despite his recent arrest.
If he has been tempted to hoax occasionally, he wouldn't be the first psychic to do so. But all that's another issue.
Nancy Talbott appears to have plenty of evidence that she has been involved with Cooper.
Either he must prove her story is nonsense or be labelled a liar and risk the rest of his claims being discredited.
It would be interesting Longeyes with your talents for transcription, to document in full Nancy's FB claims for future comparison to Cooper's.
Whatever happens now - I predict this one, as they say, will run and run!

[Longeyes]

Hi wotsup my talents at transcription are about the same as anyone else. I'm the only person bothered/ mad enough / with enough time at the moment to do it. I have sent Jeremy a message and am pretty sure he will respond at some point if not immediately, he is a truth seeker not band wagoneer.
Ask Nancy if you can copy some of her posts here. It seemed quite convincing what she had.

And also as I discovered last week Chris Cooper's Seldon has been sold off at auction.( see earlier post#40) The article also claims he was a physics dropout? So I'm less sure he's 100% the real deal.

[wotsup]

Hi wotsup my talents at transcription are about the same as anyone else. I'm the only person bothered/ mad enough / with enough time at the moment to do it. I have sent Jeremy a message and am pretty sure he will respond at some point if not immediately, he is a truth seeker not band wagoneer.
Ask Nancy if you can copy some of her posts here. It seemed quite convincing what she had.

And also as I discovered last week Chris Cooper's Seldon has been sold off at auction.( see earlier post#40) The article also claims he was a physics dropout? So I'm less sure he's 100% the real deal.
Longeyes I have explored your links and agree that was one of the best articles about a company closure, I've read in a long time

As well as information it gave colour too - like this paragraph:
"
Wiry and intense, the bantamweight Cooper kept Seldon colleagues off guard with a mad-scientist-like manner that unsettled those who couldn’t tell when he was being serious. Employees say he frequently talked about aliens. One co-worker remembers looking through an office window with him, out to the Connecticut River and beyond, and Cooper remarking, in a tone the co-worker said sounded sincere, “I get my best ideas from the aliens in those hills.”

Certainly not the kind of stuff you usually get in business reports!

Interesting that Cooper got the stuff into the military but in view of the later findings, one wonders if it was the nano aspect, which was the effective ingredient.

With regard to me asking Nancy if I can copy her posts - not a good idea.

I knew her years ago and was very friendly but she fell out with me because I maybe asked too many questions which she interpreted as scepticism.

But what the hell I'll give it a try and make contact.

It does occur to me though that as her Facebook page is public, then that information is surely harvestable anyway?

[Wally]

Hi wotsup my talents at transcription are about the same as anyone else. I'm the only person bothered/ mad enough / with enough time at the moment to do it. I have sent Jeremy a message and am pretty sure he will respond at some point if not immediately, he is a truth seeker not band wagoneer.
Ask Nancy if you can copy some of her posts here. It seemed quite convincing what she had.

And also as I discovered last week Chris Cooper's Seldon has been sold off at auction.( see earlier post#40) The article also claims he was a physics dropout? So I'm less sure he's 100% the real deal.

For transcription purposes would it be possible to use some sort of voice recognition or speech to text software? That would probably make things a lot easier, though I'm not sure how much that would cost. My father uses a program called 'dragon' if I recall correctly.

[Longeyes]

Dragon is apparently very good but you have to voice train it. I used a new Macbook pro for some of the transcription - its voice recognition was really good, same issue as dragon though I had to reread it in for it to work.
Still nothing as yet out there I know of which can just do it on it's own.

[Wally]

As far as I understand it when moving through either an atmosphere or ocean it provides resistance to that movement, and the denser the material being moved through the more resistance there is, hence moving through the oecean is harder than moving through air and thus the maximum speed with which we can move through them becomes limited. Would then the quantum field thus also give resistance to propulsion using it for movement and thus end up having a limit on the top speed that can then be achieved?

[wotsup]

Here's the latest on this story...
'Why won’t nanoman Chris H. Cooper reveal details of the crop circle he and six others saw form?’
By Colin Andrews (USA) - with further research by David Haith (England)
http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop_Circle_Research.html

[Wansen]

Here's the latest on this story...
'Why won’t nanoman Chris H. Cooper reveal details of the crop circle he and six others saw form?’
By Colin Andrews (USA) - with further research by David Haith (England)
http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop_Circle_Research.html

Very interesting...seems to be some question about veracity of Cooper's claim.

Here's hoping someone will step forward to substantiate.