Contactee cases

[Garuda]

Over the years, loads of people have come forward claiming to have had conscious and friendly interactions with extraterrestrials.

It's a fascinating field of research where people like Wendelle Stevens and Bill Hamilton did some sterling work.

Many cases have been debunked, but in my opinion in many of those cases the baby ended up being thrown out with the bath water.

At the same time, I also believe that some of the contactees shot themselves in the foot by fabricating extra material (stories, photos, ...) when they were faced with an ever increasing demand for information. Where the case started off as genuine, they thus ended up discrediting themselves.

Anyway, this thread is dedicated to contactee cases.

[Luminari]

Hi Garuda, great idea for a thread.

Ok well let's kick things off with an old case. A contact that occurred in May of 1958. This abduction and tour of an alien planet for 8 days of Artur Berlet 'a simple Brazilian man' is quite compelling and the following video presentation is based on the information published in the book; 'UFO Contact from Planet ACART (http://www.amazon.com/Contact-Planet-Acart-Artur-Berlet/dp/0934269084).'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Sjwa-i7-8

http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/l35.gif

[atmjjc]

Great insight Garuda,

The problem IMO is that most people who can demonstrate an ability of anomalies and once they become known for their ability are constantly under the stress to perform and a lot of times under the full observations of skeptics. The pressure of these folks who are constantly called to perform their ability sometimes on a whims notice often causes them, again in my opinion, to cheat at times for various reasons. Once caught cheating they are believed to have always cheated which might not always be the case but are forever labeled a fraud by the general public.

[Garuda]

@Luminari: Thanks. The Berlet case indeed is an interesting one. It was investigated by several people and they all came to the conclusion that his account appeared genuine. Interestingly, a second case of contact with beings of Acart was published a decade later (the Mario Restier case).

[Garuda]

Great insight Garuda,

The problem IMO is that most people who can demonstrate an ability of anomalies and once they become known for their ability are constantly under the stress to perform and a lot of times under the full observations of skeptics. The pressure of these folks who are constantly called to perform their ability sometimes on a whims notice often causes them, again in my opinion, to cheat at times for various reasons. Once caught cheating they are believed to have always cheated which might not always be the case but are forever labeled a fraud by the general public.

Thanks!

Yes, that's what I meant. And so the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater: the whole case gets discredited, even though there was an initial core of truth .

[Luminari]

a second case of contact with beings of Acart was published a decade later (the Mario Restier case).

THE MARIO RESTIER CASE

This is one of the earliest cases of being taken to another planet, and happened 4dec-49- also in Rio in Brasilia, but the case was not published until-68. In this case he was away for 4months! When the interview happened, Mario Restier, 40, lived in Volta Redona with wife + 3 children, and had worked at a steel plant for 15years. The trip had happend when he was 17.

On 4dec-49, he was on the way to his father when he noticed a strange discshaped craft. It came low above some trees without any sound at all, and landed 15m from the road. He was then talked to from the ship, on Portuguese, not to be afraid. He went onboard, in spite of being afraid. Inside he saw two persons of his own size, in peculiar clothes. He asked them if they belived in god, and got the ansver that god "is one only". This made him more safe. He was shown around the ship, and told to stay in a special room, where a liquid was that they said was necessary to be through the accelerations. He later found the ship to be 15 m in diameter. Then he fell asleep. When he awoke, he saw gigantic transparent domes, kilometres in extent, covering the whole city in such a way, that where one ended, another began, and they were connected. He got some "fruits" in a room where he was taken, reminding of tropical fruits, which they said was an highly purified food, with no need for wc-visits later.

Those people said they lived ca 300 years pr incarnation. Their eyes were blue or green, and the mouth small. He noticed no hair on their skin. He saw also women and children there. But the craftmen on the return ship made him think more of robots than of people.

He was shown diff.factories, when he asked to be brought home. So he was, but when he came back he was very amazed that he had been away for 4months!! His father was very angry when he came back, because he had just disappeared without saying where. He had looked after him in Rio, seeking all he could for him. For Mario, it all seemed to have taken max 3 days! And he was allowed to take back some peculiar material - a sheet of special metal.

Source: http://rune.galactic.to/acart2.html

[Luminari]

According to Exopaedia (http://www.exopaedia.org/Acart): LOCATION: Acart is supposedly only 5 Light Years away from Earth. More information is lacking.

Maybe the Acartians were referring to their light years? which would be based on their Sun's revolution. If we look at an astronomical list of the closest stars (http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/extra/nearest.html); there doesn't seem to be a star around the 5 light year mark:

[Garuda]

According to Exopaedia (http://www.exopaedia.org/Acart): LOCATION: Acart is supposedly only 5 Light Years away from Earth. More information is lacking.

Maybe the Acartians were referring to their light years? which would be based on their Sun's revolution. If we look at an astronomical list of the closest stars (http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/extra/nearest.html); there doesn't seem to be a star around the 5 light year mark:

The Exopaedia says 'supposedly' because that bit of information comes from Billy Meier who allegedly was told so by his contact Ptaah.


Edit to add: by definition a light year is a fixed / absolute distance.

[Luminari]

Ok I see, about the Acart distance issue... http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/t131.gif

366

Here is another highly detailed and exotic case of an abduction and a lengthy visit on an alien world. Even though the subject is a frenchman... the abduction by 12 ft tall androgynous Extraterrestrials from a 'golden planet' with a phoenetical translation of: 'Thiaoouba,' occurred in my hometown; 'Cairns' in far north Queensland, Australia. I have a further personal connection with this case which I will not divulge at this point.
Read the free ebook (http://www.scribd.com/doc/968899/Thiaoouba-Prophecy)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEm8Dvs7vaQ

[Doc]

Last night when I saw this topic I did a search looking to refresh my memory about early contactee cases. I found this website that has a number cases that are new to me. They also are International, the scope of which is new to me. Have a look, maybe some of these should be incuded:

http://davehodrien.blogspot.com/

[Doc]

I also found this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F1qsrleo-4

[newyorklily]

Last night when I saw this topic I did a search looking to refresh my memory about early contactee cases. I found this website that has a number cases that are new to me. They also are International, the scope of which is new to me. Have a look, maybe some of these should be incuded:

http://davehodrien.blogspot.com/

Thank you, Doc. He has a lot of information there. Also, if you click on "home" at the link you gave, it brings you to this site (http://bufognavigation.blogspot.com/).

[Doc]

Thank you, Doc. He has a lot of information there. Also, if you click on "home" at the link you gave, it brings you to this site (http://bufognavigation.blogspot.com/).

They look as if they have a lot going on. I wonder if Lee knows anything more about them?

[A99]

Thanks for posting that vid Doc! Also, Alex Collier is going through a rough patch now and needs our prayers.

[A99]

Odd that the video mentions someone like Blossom Goodchild who has had one failed prediction after another yet leave out the Stanley Fulham whose prediction actually did come true!


Stanley A. Fulham, a retired NORAD officer, actually predicted October 13 as the date that extraterrestrial visitors would appear as the initial step in a process to educate the world public that we are not alone. Astonishingly, his prediction was validated by the mass UFO sighting in New York, as well as in other major cities. Could the New York UFO sighting on October 13 be the first step in extraterrestrials indisputably revealing themselves to the world public as Fulham claims?
Fulham first made his prediction in a Youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahTcLLn9Uk&feature=related)posted on June 26, 2010. The prediction was elaborated upon in a Press Release (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/09/prweb4491804.htm) that appeared on September 13:


Stanley A. Fulham, tentatively predicts October 13, 2010 as the date for a massive UFO display over the world’s principal cities. According to the author [Fulham], the aliens will neither land nor communicate on that date…
In an interview on his website, Fulham explains (http://sites.google.com/site/challengesofchange/articles/full-articles) more about the October 13 date as the first in a series of steps to prepary humanity for overt extraterrestrial intervention in 2015:


The aliens’ UFO display on 13 October 2010 is a tentative date. The aliens function with their Free Will and Choice and may determine that the conditions on Earth are so bad with the earth changes and the world’s economic and financial collapse that their intervention at that critical time would collapse humanity in massive panic, fear and confusion. If so, it will only be a temporary postponement of their intervention because their UFO display is only the initial step in preparing people for their intervention, possibly in 2015, without creating massive fear and panic.

http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-89.htm

[A99]

Last night when I saw this topic I did a search looking to refresh my memory about early contactee cases. I found this website that has a number cases that are new to me. They also are International, the scope of which is new to me. Have a look, maybe some of these should be incuded:

http://davehodrien.blogspot.com/

I was up half the night reading up on contactee's.. only in my case, one who goes by the name Accitcus/Charles from Avalon's forum.... here's his website.... http://www.atticus1.org/
Will post info on that later. So far I'm reading that it was not so much that they thought he was a fraud but more about his behind the scene maneuvers to get those in that forum to turn against the owner.
But I'm only interested anyways in Accitcus' contactee information and those predictions he's been making.

[Luminari]

Thanks Doc. Apart from the stellar websites maintained by our very own 'Garuda,' by far one of the best places to learn about serious contactee cases is the site of Rune Overby: http://galactic.no/rune/udxen.html You will save thousands of dollars on extremely rare books by reading Rune's powerpoint case studies. :-)

[Luminari]

Here are Garuda's excellent sites for anyone out of the loop:

http://www.exopaedia.org/

http://manuel.sekmeth.com/hb7/display.php

[newyorklily]

Odd that the video mentions someone like Blossom Goodchild who has had one failed prediction after another yet leave out the Stanley Fulham whose prediction actually did come true!

http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-89.htm

I did the investigation of the October 13 NYC sightings that was called in to MUFON. They were balloons from the "Madrid Way" festivities near Times Square.

[Lee]

They look as if they have a lot going on. I wonder if Lee knows anything more about them?
Sorry, I don't know anything more about the Birmingham UFO group. There are lots of these organizations scattered across the country, each doing there own local investigations, organizing meetings, etc.

Often these groups do excellent work which gets very little exposure, wouldn't it be nice to get some of these independent UFO groups and investigators representing themselves here?

[A99]

This is what Dr. Michael Salla said about that UFO sighting that occurred in nyc that day.


The party balloon explanation is however very unlikely given the time involved between initial and later reports. Even though the New York UFO sightings were first officially reported at 1:30 pm, shortly after the accidental Mt Vernon party balloon release, witnesses described seeing the UFOs as early as 9:30 am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQPsy8lFTEY) on October 13, and that they numbered as many as 50. Also, the closure of the New York radar facilities and flight delays began at 6:45 pm. Up to this time, UFOs were being sighted and filmed by New York residents. Could a dozen party balloons hover for more than five hours over Manhattan after first drifting down from nearby Mt Vernon, and remain stationary over NYC? More importantly, could party balloons have mysteriously contributed to the evacuation of the Westbury radar facility, and flight delays for up to an hour at three major airports?
The party balloon explanation falls apart at closer examination. It nevertheless appears to have been quickly accepted by the mass media in what appears to be an officially sanctioned attempt to cover up the truth behind the New York UFO sightings. This leads to the most plausible explanation that the UFOs were intelligently controlled objects that caused problems with the Westbury radar facility. This led to flight delays at New York's three major airports. This seems to be a similar series of events as occurred earlier this year at several Chinese airports after UFO sightings. Most significantly, what happened over New York's skies vindicates the October 13 prediction made four months earlier by a retired NORAD officer that extraterrestrial vehicles would begin appearing over major world cities as the first step in a process to prepare humanity for the truth that we are not alone.





http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-90.htm

So is his information incorrect?

He also said:

Fulham’s successful October 13 prediction (http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-89.htm) of UFOs over New York has gained the attention of this writer and many others given the rare success of such predictions. The fact that New York’s three major metropolitan airports were temporarily closed during the UFO appearance,

[A99]

Here's a compilation of all of the news reports and video's recorded of those "ufo" seen over NYC on Oct. 13th. There's a variation of how those objects were recorded in the sky. Some of those vids show separate objects, a fleet of them, seen up there and other vids show a cluster of round objects of different sizes as one unit up there. Very confusing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy8WlwJ8i5M

[Luminari]

http://cache2.bookdepository.com/assets/images/book/large/9781/8918/9781891824777.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Light-Barrier-Elizabeth-Klarer/dp/1891824775/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1328347291&sr=1-1)

http://gratisenergi.se/klarer.jpg

Elizabeth Klarer (1910–1994) was a South African who claimed to have been contacted by extraterrestrials from 1954 through 1963. She was one of the first women to claim a sexual relationship with an extraterrestrial.

Elizabeth was born in Mooi River, Natal. She studied meteorology and music in England and learned to fly light aircrafts. After reading George Adamski's Flying Saucers Have Landed (1953) and Inside the Space Ships (1955), Klarer suddenly remembered that she had been receiving occasional telepathic messages from a friendly space alien named Akon since childhood. Akon was presumably unrelated to Adamski's Venusian space friend Orthon. She was able to take photos of the ship from the Drakensberg Mountains on July 17, 1955.

Elizabeth managed to call down Akon and his scout ship on April 7, 1956, for an actual landing. She was carried up to the mother ship in Earth's orbit and was eventually transported in 1957 to Akon's home planet, Meton, which orbits the nearby multiple-star system Alpha Centauri where she delivered Akon's son. Her son, Ayling, stayed behind on Meton to be educated while Elizabeth came home.

On his world lecture tour in the late 1950s, George Adamski made a point of visiting South Africa and looking up Elizabeth for a chat on their variety of experiences with the friendly, wise space brothers. By that time, Elizabeth was not the only Adamski follower to experience claimed space-motherhood, because in 1957, British housewife Cynthia Appleton revealed that one of Adamski's handsome blond Venusian space brothers had seduced her as well. Elizabeth Klarer died in 1994 in South Africa.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk6f8O4mkx4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF2-8SpFkQ8&feature=related

[Luminari]

Luminari notes: That bio above was from the publisher's site. I don't like the part about Adamski's 'Orthon' it shows the publisher doesn't understand that 'Orthon' was never a real name, only a pseudonym chosen by GA.

[Flying Tiger Comics]

With respect to Acart- the Centauri system, Barnard's Star and Wolf 359 are all within 5 light years of Earth- Wolf and Barnard's Star are listed as at a slightly greater distance but due to gravity lensing may actually be closer.

Interesting that there was a mini-wave of contacts from Alpha Centauri and Epsilon Eridani.