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CasperParks
01-29-2012, 02:02 AM
:confused:

Baltic Sea, Swedish treasure hunters found UFO? Will be interesting to learn what it is when the sub gets there...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/28/world/europe/swedish-shipwreck-hunters/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

norenrad
01-29-2012, 02:40 AM
Well, that's the last we'll hear of that story.

Chris
01-29-2012, 03:02 AM
It will be at least a few months before they can get back out there to look at it again. But since this is a private company and there isn't any govt intervention then perhaps there is a chance we could find out what this really is.

Stay tuned.....

CasperParks
01-29-2012, 11:55 PM
Whatever it is, sounds like it has been down there for long time.

Doc
01-30-2012, 02:31 AM
It might have been smarter to keep their mouths shut a while longer. They may get back there to find that, Gee, the Swedish Navy is using the area. Sorry.

CasperParks
01-30-2012, 06:05 AM
It might have been smarter to keep their mouths shut a while longer. They may get back there to find that, Gee, the Swedish Navy is using the area. Sorry.

That or some mysterious party beat them too it.

atmjjc
01-30-2012, 08:24 AM
Here is a photo of the sonar image to your left. The right hand picture is an image of a spaceship from the star wars movie that is being compared to the sonar picture.

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ProblemChild
01-30-2012, 10:12 AM
I remember this coming up at OM last summer. Wonder why CNN are covering it now. At first I thought it was a second one, that would have been very interesting.

norenrad
01-30-2012, 03:50 PM
I thought I saw that before, good to know someone else did too.

atmjjc
01-30-2012, 06:39 PM
Yep, It started to be reported in June of 2011.

Here is a short video about 48 seconds where they show more sonar Pics and was dated in July 2011.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Img8EgDtBQ&feature=related

CasperParks
02-01-2012, 04:52 AM
Perhaps it is a submerged ancient structure. :confused:

Doc
02-01-2012, 06:09 AM
From the first report I saw I have found myself comparing this to two other stories. The underwater structures that were found off Cuba a few years back and Michael Crichton's "Sphere"

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Dragonfire
02-02-2012, 02:04 PM
Update from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46226992/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/second-sunken-ufo-claim-doesnt-really-hold-water/


By Benjamin Radford

updated 2/1/2012 5:36:01 PM ET

Back in July an ocean exploration team led by Swedish researchers found what some suggested may be a flying saucer on the sea floor. There were even skid marks behind the large object that suggested it may have moved across, or crashed on, the sea floor.

While experts speculated that the object was just a glitch in the team's sonar, new reports surfaced this week that the team uncovered a second, similar object nearby. But, as the report hopped from one website to the next, one thing was missing: an image of the second object.

Life's Little Mysteries contacted Peter Lindberg, who led the expedition, to get the full story, and the elusive sonar scan.

The tale begins in July, when Lindberg, who has successfully recovered objects from sunken ships, announced he had discovered a strange round object at a depth of about 300 feet (about 91 meters) on the ocean floor in the Gulf of Bothnia, between Finland and Sweden. Adding to the mystery, he noted evidence of scars or marks disturbing the environment nearby, suggesting that the object may have moved across the ocean floor at some point.

His claim that the object "is perfectly round" may or may not be accurate; while it looks round, the resolution of sonar image is too low to verify it. And while it's possible the lines that appear to be leading to the feature indicate movement, it's also possible they are totally unrelated.

The object remains unidentified, but many experts questioned whether the sonar image was accurate to begin with. In a story that ran on the Popular Mechanics website, Hanumant Singh, a researcher with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, explained that the sidescan sonar Lindberg used to find the object is not very reliable. Although it's perfectly useful for finding sunken ships that have a high profile on the ocean floor, it's far less accurate for revealing flat, low formations, Singh said. Furthermore, Singh said, there was evidence the sonar was not calibrated properly.

The story seemed to end there, and Lindberg said his team had neither the interest nor resources to investigate the anomaly. But interest in Lindberg's find was revived a few days ago when CNN reported that his team had found a second, similar object not far from his original discovery.
CNN's Brooke Bowman claimed the original mysterious object "is not on its own down there. The ocean explorer team also found another, smaller disc-shaped object nearby. Both show a rigid tail or drag marks more than 400 meters (about 437 yards) long. Their size and distinctive shape are generating some peculiar theories," including that it could be: Han Solo's spaceship, The Millennium Falcon, from the "Star Wars" films; Russian warships; Atlantis; a marine version of Stonehenge; a crashed flying saucer, or a plug to another world inside Earth.

The announcement of a second, similar object strengthened the original claim: Although sidescan sonar is known to create false images, the likelihood that it could create two nearly identical false images is very remote.

But the story takes a bizarre turn when we discover that the image of the second mysterious object used in current reports is actually a duplicate of the original sonar image. For example, the image featured at 1:13 in the CNN video clip is clearly the same image released in July. What's going on? Is there really a second saucer-shaped anomaly, and if so, where's the image of it?

Lindberg told Life's Little Mysteries, "I confirm that we have found two anomalies. We did find the other anomaly approximately 200 meters (about 219 yards) from the circular find at the same sonar run." Lindberg explained why his team had not released the sonar image of the second object: "We decided not to expose that anomaly so much because there is a lot of disturbance on the sonar image when we passed it, so it's very blurry. We can see it's something but to an untrained eye it might just look like 'pea soup.'"

Indeed, the second object looks almost nothing like the first; instead of the well-defined, disc-like appearance of the first object, the new one more closely resembles a lumpy eggplant or a blueberry muffin sprouting what looks like an owl's head.

Still, Lindberg speculated that the two objects may be linked in some way: "There is a chance that the two anomalies had been parts of the same body from the beginning. But at the same time it might mean nothing, it might be a coincidence."

It was the unusually round shape that first drew the public's interest in the first find, but it's not clear why the second feature would necessarily qualify as an anomaly — especially given the difficulty in interpreting (potentially miscalibrated) sidescan sonar images. Perhaps future exploration with better equipment will finally solve the mystery.

Doc
02-02-2012, 02:12 PM
Good find. Main Stream Media picking it up is an encouraging sign. I have thought from time to time that one way to let disclosure happen is just to let one of these discoveries be reported without any interference or ridicule.

cheb
02-02-2012, 05:44 PM
Popular Mechanics also wants us to believe that oxygen starved, kerosene fueled (and short lived) fires instigated the collapse and then the pancaking of the Twin Towers and that 70 ton jetliners vaporized in a field gully in Pennsylvania and inside a relatively tiny hole at the Pentagon.

Know your sources. Main stream media covering anything gives me more pause than it does towards building trust. Recalibration indeed. lmao

CasperParks
02-02-2012, 11:39 PM
Update from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46226992/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/second-sunken-ufo-claim-doesnt-really-hold-water/

Dragonfire,

Thanks for sharing the news story. Enjoyed reading it.

newyorklily
05-29-2012, 08:03 PM
A team of Swedish scientists is headed back to the Baltic to find out, once and for all, what the object is. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/?cmpid=NL_SciTech


Swedish scientists plan to explore a mystery ripped straight from the “The X-Files.”
Rather than Mulder and Scully, this adventure features Swedish researchers Peter Lindberg and Dennis Asberg. They too know the truth is out there -- and in mere days plan to visit what they call the “Baltic Anomaly.”
Last summer, while on a treasure hunt between Sweden and Finland, the pair and their research associates made headlines worldwide with the discovery of a 200-foot wide unidentified object (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/08/03/swedish-booze-hunters-may-have-found-ufo-on-ocean-floor/) at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. Now a team of oceanographers, engineers and deep sea divers will return to the site Friday, June 1, for a 6 to 10 day trip.
They want to find out once and for all what it really is.
“We don’t know whether it is a natural phenomenon, or an object,” Lindberg, captain of the Ocean Explorer, told FoxNews.com. “We saw it on sonar when we were searching for a wreck from World War I. This circular object just turned up on the monitor.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/?cmpid=NL_SciTech#ixzz1wHbwyysU

CasperParks
05-29-2012, 08:54 PM
A team of Swedish scientists is headed back to the Baltic to find out, once and for all, what the object is. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/?cmpid=NL_SciTech

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/?cmpid=NL_SciTech#ixzz1wHbwyysU

They have an interesting fictional video posted...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ls7Qb37FxiA

Dragonfire
05-30-2012, 02:12 AM
It will be interesting to see if they can come up with something.

.......never know......

Doc
06-08-2012, 07:22 PM
We have been following along with this story for a while now. It looks as if something may be happening:

Update:
http://truthfall.com/baltic-anomaly-ship-now-anchored-directly-above-object/http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDL8xiEul_dqMaX&w=90&h=90&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthfall.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F05%2Fbaltic-anomaly-close-up.jpg (http://truthfall.com/baltic-anomaly-ship-now-anchored-directly-above-object/)Baltic Anomaly: Ship Now Anchored Directly Above Object (http://truthfall.com/baltic-anomaly-ship-now-anchored-directly-above-object/)
truthfall.comIn the first real news update since they left port in Stockholm, the OceanX team of 11 individuals, headed by treasure hunters Dennis Aasberg and Peter Lindberg

CasperParks
06-08-2012, 09:12 PM
Thanks for the update, bookmarked the link.

Doc
06-09-2012, 10:28 AM
Another update, via Will at our Facebook Group:

http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

2012-06-07 BREAKING NEWS 2pm, The divers are now down and investigating the circle and reports from the ship say they are really amazed. There is definitely something unusual hiding at the seabed – a Mystery Beneath. More information and pictures will be released next week.



2012-06-06 1.00 pm, Ocean X Team on site
The ship Ancylus, carrying the Ocean X Team, is now anchored above the circle-shaped object. They started to scan the seabed and they are taking samples for analyses. Due to really bad weather conditions the operation took a little bit longer than scheduled. But they are working hard and prepare to dive down there for further investigations today.



http://www.oceanexplorer.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/IMG_2548.jpeg
2012-06-04 News; The expedition started Friday 1st from Norrtälje harbor when Ocean X-Team took their crew out for this exciting adventure trying to find out what the mysterious disc-shaped object is. Unfortunately the weather conditions have been really bad the last days, but now they are on a roll.
Stay alert for more updates within shortly.



http://www.oceanexplorer.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ancylus.jpeg

norenrad
06-09-2012, 05:12 PM
Thanks for these updates Doc, I am very interested.

Lee
06-10-2012, 12:49 PM
Me too! Here's a CGI rendering of the underwater anomaly. It really does bear a resemblance to the "Millenium Falcon" doesn't it?

http://i50.tinypic.com/2cr4v8y.jpg
Source: http://www.oceanexplorer.se/images/

Looking forward to more updates and images on this next week! :cool:

Doc
06-10-2012, 02:04 PM
Great pic, Lee!

CasperParks
06-10-2012, 11:51 PM
I put that image up as wall paper on the PC.

It is well done, and reminds me to keep updated on the topic.

Lee
06-11-2012, 08:12 PM
Dennis Aasberg, team leader on the OceanX crew has issued a new and potentially explosive statement today:

“Everything is top secret now … because of the risks … hope you all understand this is no game. But the truth will be reported shortly.” – Dennis Aasberg

Source http://truthfall.com/baltic-anomaly-uso-this-is-no-game-says-oceanx-team/

There is also some interesting speculation in the article above, it is suggested that there are several anomalies in the area and that we may be looking at an impact site,possible 'skid tracks' and two pieces of wreckage. The author implies that the 'Baltic anomaly' may be the remains of a USO rather than a UFO.

Personally, I'm trying not to get too excited just yet, but the statements issued so far seem to indicate something other than a mundane rock formation.

More on this as we hear it!

majicbar
06-11-2012, 09:53 PM
It is just too bad that the same kind of effort could not have been done in Lake Superior to recover the F-89 and UFO spotted on sonar there. I'm sure that that effort was squashed by the USAF and Canada, could you imagine a private company in possession of a UFO. It would be pretty hard to hide the truth. I only hope that this effort in the North Sea remains a straight up exploration of the truth, even if it should show that we are not alone in the Universe.

Lee
06-11-2012, 10:28 PM
Same here, fingers crossed!

For up to date info, keep an eye on their FB page - http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Dennis-Aasberg-Ocean-X-team/362245557124278

enigphilo
06-11-2012, 10:37 PM
It is exciting to see this story keep moving forward.

But is it bad that I'm kind of waiting for a "boat fire" or rogue wave story to confirm something new. Ha

Lee
06-11-2012, 10:51 PM
I know what you mean, enigphilo. Lets just hope that nothing sinister happens.

Here are a couple more links for new info:

The Ocean X Team Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/178384865554985/

The Ocean Explorer forum - http://oceanx.ideaboard.net/login

Doc
06-12-2012, 12:26 AM
I know what you mean, enigphilo. Lets just hope that nothing sinister happens.

Here are a couple more links for new info:

The Ocean X Team Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/178384865554985/

The Ocean Explorer forum - http://oceanx.ideaboard.net/login

I just followed the link on our Facebook page over there. Lots of commentary, some of it very skeptical going on there. :cool:

CasperParks
06-12-2012, 05:04 AM
They should have a better idea of what it is very soon.

CasperParks
06-14-2012, 09:47 PM
No updates...

http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

Their last update was on the 7th of June, 2012. Below is their last message from the website.

2012-06-07

BREAKING NEWS 2pm, The divers are now down and investigating the circle and reports from the ship say they are really amazed. There is definitely something unusual hiding at the seabed – a Mystery Beneath. More information and pictures will be released next week.

No word since, hope they are okay.

It is now 14th of June, 2012.

Longeyes
06-15-2012, 08:14 AM
This is from their facebook group I doubt Morne is one of the team but is probably Swedish...

Morné Leeutjie Geringer
RE-POSTING TO KEEP IT ON TOP, AND TO KEEP ATTACK-OF-THE-STUPIDS INCIDENTS TO A MINIMUM.

THIS IS RUMOR CONTROL, DATED THURSDAY, JUNE 14th. HERE ARE THE FACTS:

We know this:

1. Ancylus sent divers down on Friday 8th of June, and the word from the boat was that the crew was “very excited”;

2. The ship returned Sunday 10th of June, and some of the folks here (who either STAY in Norrtälje, or very close to it) managed to speak to some crew members;

3. From THAT, we learned that what they (the crew) found was “not of this nature”, and that the ship was being re-supplied for a return trip to the site at the soonest opportunity. PLEASE NOTE! This was translated from SWEEDISH, so the EXACT wording could be different!

4. ALSO from a crew member (one of the divers if I recall), we learnt that a “Press Release” or “Press Conference” was planned for Monday;

5. Monday 11th of June: Dennis Åsberg (Team leader?) posted that “Everything is top secret now... because of the risks... hope you all understand this is no game. But the truth will be reported shortly.”
6. Monday evening, it was rumored that the crew were preparing to set out again that evening;
7. Wednesday, 13th of June: Stefan Ohlsson Uploaded a photo of the docks at Norrtälje Habour where Ancylus was moored. The ship is CONFIRMED to be gone. Still NO OFFICIAL WORD has been heard from the OX team since Dennis Åsberg’s post on Monday.

TO DATE, NO press conference / press release has occurred... We are all still waiting for information from the OX team...

Longeyes
06-15-2012, 08:20 AM
And also on the facebook page but no source quoted

From Amjad Baig
There are THREE objects of interest – the main circular anomaly, a smaller secondary object like a “Gothic church window” 200 metres away and a 90ft high and 900ft wide rock outcrop with a crack running through it some 1500 metres South. The team have stated they are not really interested in the second anomaly, although the reason for this is unclear, given that it may be a fragment of the main anomaly that broke off on impact.
The objects lie in 80-85 metres depth of water.
Visibility is 2-3 feet maximum.
The object is 60 metres (approx 200ft wide) roughly equivalent to the wingspan of Boeing 747.
The main circular anomaly is not a rock formation.
Russian and US Navy ships are NOT looking for the object, nor are they blocking the OceanX team – this is unsubstantiated rumour. The annual BALTOPS operation has nothing to do with the OceanX exploration.

CasperParks
06-15-2012, 10:44 AM
From their site they now have a link to Sweden news update at:

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sa-ser-den-mystiska-cirkeln-ut-pa-nara-hall/

I used Bing to translate the page into English...

Read something about "sandstone", not sure if they are meaning it was covered by sandstone or made of sandstone.

There is a video with images at the news site.

Lee
06-15-2012, 03:37 PM
Here's the latest: (It's a stone...! Although, questions remain as to whether it is a natural formation or not, how it got there, what it's made of... and conspiracy theories abound.) -

"2012-06-15

NEWS RELEASE

15/6/2012, PRESS RELEASE

THE TREASURE HUNTERS, OCEAN X TEAM, DISCOVERED SOMETHING UNIQUE WHEN THEY DOVE DOWN TO THE MYSTERIOUS CIRCLE-SHAPED OBJECT IN THE BALTIC SEA

Treasure hunters confirm they have found something abnormal in the seabed

STOCKHOLM, Sweden, June 15, 2012

The Ocean X Team dove down to the circle-shaped object in the Baltic Sea and met something they never experienced before. First they thought it was just stone or a rock cliff, but after further observations the object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot.

“During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn. I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions “, says Stefan Hogeborn, one of the divers at Ocean X Team.

The path to the object itself can be described as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it.

“First we thought this was only stone, but this is something else. And since no volcanic activity has ever been reported in the Baltic Sea the find becomes even stranger. As laymen we can only speculate how this is made by nature, but this is the strangest thing I have ever experienced as a professional diver“, continues Peter Lindberg, one of the founder Ocean X Team.

Right now, scientists are examining samples from the circle-shaped object, and experts in sonar imaging are processing data from the ship to hopefully shed more light over the mysterious object." Source: http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

There is also an article with exclusive images in the Swedish media - http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sa-ser-den-mystiska-cirkeln-ut-pa-nara-hall/

I wonder what our members and in particular image specialists make of this...?

CasperParks
06-15-2012, 03:43 PM
Two threads going on this one:

http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?696-USO-Crash-Investigation-Anomaly-in-the-Ocean-Depths

Doc
06-15-2012, 04:07 PM
Two threads going on this topic:

http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?375-Baltic-Sea-Swedish-treasure-hunters-found-UFO&p=10950#post10950

Thanks, Casper. We will merge them or copy the other info over to this one. :cool:

Update: Threads merged.

Doc
06-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Divers Have Released Footage Of A Mysterious 'UFO' In The Baltic Sea

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/baltic-sea-ufo-2012-6#ixzz1xtgreVEQ

Last year divers reportedly discovered strange objects at the bottom of the Baltic Sea between Sweden and Finland (http://www.businessinsider.com/a-team-of-divers-seem-to-have-discovered-a-ufo-at-the-bottom-of-the-baltic-sea-2012-1), one apparently the size of a jumbo jet with another smaller object of the same shape nearby. Both appeared to have mysterious "drag marks" beneath them.
While initially it (http://www.businessinsider.com/baltic-sea-ufo-2012-6#) was suspected to be a shipwreck, the sizes and shapes appeared to be off. Following international media interest, Ocean Explorer, the Swedish team that found the ship using sonar regions, pledged to return and dive when the waters were calmer.
That time has come, and Ocean Explorer has released some of their new footage to Swedish paper Expressen (http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sa-ser-den-mystiska-cirkeln-ut-pa-nara-hall/). The video is in Swedish but the images speak for themselves.
WATCH (In Swedish):



http://www.businessinsider.com/baltic-sea-ufo-2012-6#ixzz1xth7YBj2

newyorklily
06-15-2012, 11:08 PM
Thank you for that, Doc. Whatever it is, it definitely looks disc shaped. I hope they can clear some of the dirt and debris off of it.

Lee
06-16-2012, 01:46 PM
Here is the video, with an English translation:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-fDimPKYCg&feature=youtu.be

Doc
06-16-2012, 02:53 PM
Nice find, Lee. Crossposted at Facebook.

CasperParks
06-16-2012, 05:46 PM
Lee,

Thanks...

murmur
06-17-2012, 12:12 AM
Any photos?


edit....nevermind

Doc
06-17-2012, 04:50 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160297/Pictured-The-UFO-shaped-object-the-Baltic-Sea--covered-soot-little-fireplaces-lying-end-1-000ft-runway.html

New Pictures, diagrams, very interesting. This is not turning out to be the big flop I thought it would be.

Pictured: The UFO-shaped object found at the bottom of the Baltic Sea... covered in soot, with 'little fireplaces' and lying at the end of a 1,000ft runway



Object is raised about 10 to 13ft above seabed and curved at the sides like a mushroom
It has a 60 metre diameter with an egg-shaped hole leading into it from the top

Hole is surrounded by an strange rock formation that expedition team can not explain
Stones are covered in something 'resembling soot' which has baffled experts


By Meghan Keneally (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Meghan+Keneally)
UPDATED: 02:04 EST, 17 June 2012






Sceptics expected that a deep-water dive would debunk the slew of extra-terrestrial theories surrounding an unidentified object sitting at the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
But the Swedish expedition team that took the plunge surfaced with more questions than answers - and certainly no solution to its origins.

The divers found that the object, which some have likened to the Millennium Falcon because of its unusual round outline, was raised about 10 to 13ft above the seabed and curved in at the sides, giving it a mushroom shape.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/16/article-2160297-13A47DBA000005DC-930_964x513.jpg Hefty trajectory: The Swedish diving team noted a 985-foot flattened out 'runway' leading up to the object, implying that it skidded along the path before stopping but no true answers are clear



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160297/Pictured-The-UFO-shaped-object-the-Baltic-Sea--covered-soot-little-fireplaces-lying-end-1-000ft-runway.html#ixzz1y3vMv8VK

Doc
06-17-2012, 04:54 PM
'As laymen we can only speculate how this is made by nature, but this is the strangest thing I have ever experienced as a professional diver.'
The soot also proved cause for concern for Mr Lindberg's colleague on the Ocean X explorer team, Stefan Hogeborn.
'During my 20-year diving career, including 6,000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn,' Mr Hogeborn said in the release.
'I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions.'
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/28/article-0-1180A258000005DC-76_470x423.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/28/article-0-11809FAA000005DC-680_470x423.jpg




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160297/Pictured-The-UFO-shaped-object-the-Baltic-Sea--covered-soot-little-fireplaces-lying-end-1-000ft-runway.html#ixzz1y3wHrdrm

newyorklily
06-17-2012, 05:11 PM
Thank you for the update, Doc.

The description makes me think that it could have been someone's home. 10 to 13 feet high is the right height for a ceiling. The hole in it would have let smoke from the cooking fire to go up and out. The cleared seabed could have been a road or walkway leading up to the house. However, I don't know why sediment didn't cover up the walkway or why the soot from the home fire wasn't washed away.

I'm also wondering if it might be a small voilcano on the sea floor. An eruption could have made the circular shape around it and could also have pushed away rock, creating the clearing. I think the divers need to get samples of the object for analysis.

Doc
06-17-2012, 05:25 PM
Lily: I hadn't thought of a home but I did think of small volcano that was camped on when it was old. I can't explain the smooth area. I'm pleased that this seems to be a real mystery and not just some scam.

majicbar
06-17-2012, 08:34 PM
http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/find_regions.cfm

This would not be a volcanic area, it is not impossible but the geology would make it very unlikely.

CasperParks
06-17-2012, 09:28 PM
Doc,

You're on top of this one,

Thanks for keeping me updated.

epo333
06-23-2012, 04:23 AM
Baltic Object Transmits EMP Shield? 2012

A main objective of the dive was to film the object, and yet the camera stopped working when they approached the object.

"Why isn't anything working, anything electric out there and the satellite phone as well stopped working when we were above the object and then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again and when we got back over the object it didn't work so that's kind of strange as well."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPzJMeyoNM0&feature=player_embedded

I think we are getting closer to disclosure!

murmur
06-23-2012, 04:35 AM
I think we are getting closer to disclosure!

Somehow...I don't think so

Doc
06-23-2012, 05:13 AM
Good find, epo! All I have been seeing is the same reports from a few days ago.

CasperParks
06-23-2012, 05:19 AM
Somehow...I don't think so


Baltic Object Transmits EMP Shield? 2012

I think we are getting closer to disclosure!

Taking into consideration, Muslim Brotherhood taking political control through the “Arab Springs” in the Middle East, disclosure is in the wind.

Disclosure happens between present date and 2028 at the latest, based perhaps on partial truths, lies and deceit. That is my guess.

Yeah, disclosure is very near. What, who, why, where and when remain in question. Even at 2028, that is only 15 to 16 years away.

Arkki
06-24-2012, 12:36 PM
Swedish magazine Expressen interviewed a a former submarine officer Anders Autellys who presented a theory that came up in that the structure is a concrete base of an WW2 nazi submarine trap. Idea being that the poured in layers, concrete base would have held huge steel-nets in place which would have disturbed the passage of soviet-subs. Nets would be now mostly corroded away. According to Autellus Brits have been known to use similar submarine traps.

Google translation of Finnish tabloid article regarding the theory:
http://tinyurl.com/7xsdoyl

CasperParks
06-24-2012, 07:06 PM
Swedish magazine Expressen interviewed a a former submarine officer Anders Autellys who presented a theory that came up in that the structure is a concrete base of an WW2 nazi submarine trap. Idea being that the poured in layers, concrete base would have held huge steel-nets in place which would have disturbed the passage of soviet-subs. Nets would be now mostly corroded away. According to Autellus Brits have been known to use similar submarine traps.

Google translation of Finnish tabloid article regarding the theory:
http://tinyurl.com/7xsdoyl

If true, that would explain why governments do not seem concerned over the find.

epo333
06-25-2012, 12:56 AM
So how does submarine net anchor(s) from WWII emit EMPs to muck-up the electronics on and around the research ship...?
Sounds like a stretch at finding a way to quill this amazing story. I have been expecting it to die out, or turn into swamp gas, if you get my drift.

Ancient Tech Still Working!!!

murmur
06-25-2012, 01:10 AM
Maybe they have bad equipment and just want to prolong the interest to get funding for newer equipment.

Looks like an old boat too

epo333
06-25-2012, 01:36 AM
Well here ya go mur, maybe you know alot about Scientific Research Vessels.

ANCYLUS:Scientific Research Vessel

Built: 1972 at Marinteknik Verkstads AB, Sweden. Yard number 6.
Material: Steel, aluminium superstructure.
Length: 24.17 metres (Lpp = 21.58 m, L = 22.08 metres).
Beam: 5.96 metres.
Draft: 1.85 metres in bow and 2.40 metres in stern (moulded draft 3.29 metres).
Tonnage: 108 GT och 32 NT.
Light ship: 86 tonnes.
Main engines: 2 x Scania DSI 11 R82 ABV, 2 x 240 bHp each engine with Twin-Disc SP-214-PI PTO belt connected to one shaft and a Säffle NAV 36 propeller with 1.0 metres diameter.
Aux. engines: 1 x Scania D5, 90 bHp + 1 x Yamaha 4TNE88-PG 22 bHp, Mecc Alte Spa ECO 28-1L/4 generator at 20 kVA, about 4,300 running hours.
Bow thruster: Hydraulic from main engine at about 30 bHp.
Engine room equipment: Electric Desmi 70- 50-220-O2 bilge pump 30 m³/h 5 bar, 2 x electric fire/bilge pumps with 4 m³/h each at 5 bar + small impeller bilge pump on starboard engine, Parka 271/2 24 kW boiler with BEO 10 V burner, Jowa M-87 15 ppm bilge water separator, Victron Skylla TG 24/50 battery charger.
Consumption: 60 -70 litres/hour at 10.5 knots.
Bunker: Diesel – 4.9 + 5.3 + 0.5, total of 10.7 m³
Fresh water – 4.25 m³
Ballast tanks – 12.1 tonnes lead + 978 kilo steel.
Waste oil – 2.0 m³
Septic – 1.19 m³
Grey water – 0.74 m³
Bilge water – 0.75 m³

Navigational equipment: Furuno FCR -141 radar + Furuno 1942 Mark II radar, Furuno CH-250 sonnar, Furuno FCV-1200L echo sounder, Atlas-Deso 10 printing echo sounder, Robertson AP45 autopilot, MLR FX312 GPS-navigator, Furuno MU-100C 10” colour screen sonar connected, navigational computer, Robertson RS 5660 dGPS-navigator, Shipmate RS 2500 plotter, Anschutz Gyrostar gyro compass, NOR T17 magnetic compass med 150 mm diameter, Sailor C4901 VHF, Sailor RT144B VHF, Sailor RT 5022 DSC VHF, Sailor R109, 2 x Sailor SP3300 portable GMDSS VHF, Brooks & Gatehouse HS921 log, Tenfjord hydraulic steering.
Deck equipment: 1 x 102 kg anchor + 1 x 152 kg anchor, 2 x 150 metres 12.5 mm chain, Sesam Swing 5.5 tonne/metre deck crane, Ornvik MOB-boat on deck with 25 bHp Yamaha outboard engine, hydraulic trawler, trawl gantry with 2 winches.
Safety equipment: 2 x Viking DK+ 8 persons life rafts with Solas-packed. Kannad 406 Pro EPIRB, Serpe-IESM SART, SAAB R40 AIS, Salwico C303 fire alarm unit, Callenberg lantern unit.
General arrangement: Wheelhouse with two seats. Main deck with workshop fore, followed by officer cabin, large office, laboratory and research areas. Crew cabins below deck with galley and mess aft, and 3 x single cabins and 2 x double cabins fore, shower and toilet facilities (Elektrolux Marine vacuum toilets) and storage. Large aft deck with trawling equipment and deck crane.
Dokumentation: Certificates area A(50) wide coastal trade until 2013. National tonnage certificate for ships less than 24 metres issued in 1993. GMDSS certificate for area A1. Last ultra-sonic hull survey we know of from 2003 with good result.
Position: Gothenburg, Sweden.

Price: Offers above SEK 1 500 000.

~40 years old is not that old for a ship of this type...IMO.~

I think those salvage guys would make more off what ever is down there, but keeping themselves in the news probably keeps some funding coming in too...

murmur
06-25-2012, 01:51 AM
So you are vouching for their word in the absence of any real data?

Look...I'm not being critical of you...it just sounds like a story to me....it's the same formula over and over again.

They are selling the mystery.

First its the Millennium Falcon

Next it's a strange rock formation

Now....it's shutting down electronics.

Sorry....maybe I'm just too jaded....but I recognize a sales job when I see one

Dragonfire
06-25-2012, 02:40 AM
Transmission could be of something happening now. Like they are getting a signal in real time. Short wave? Why english? Doesn't make sense.

Does it really interfear with the ships electronics, or is it something else?

rdunk
06-25-2012, 05:10 AM
In the vein of thought that there is always another "rest of the story" story, I am posting a link to another article on this, that was posted at another site.

The article is titled "Baltic Sea UFO, Unidentified Submerged Object, or Hoax". It does make for an interesting read, and raises a few more questions.

http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object :ufo:

CasperParks
06-25-2012, 07:56 AM
I'm of the mind-set of stay informed, and wait and see...

epo333
06-25-2012, 12:40 PM
Thanks rdunk, the more we we can fine on this the better.

What they did not want you to see...

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The Official Report

It is not unusual for research expeditions such as this one to pledge crew members and research staff to confidentiality agreements, but it is unusual for port authorities to quarantine an arrival as they did this one. Officials boarded the ship, even as the mooring lines were being set, and it was almost 4 hours before Peter Lindberg appeared and gave an impromptu press appearance at the foot of the ship's gangway.

According to Lindberg, due to the unexpectedness of the discovery, and the limited amount of resources available at the time, he would only be able to give the basics of their information. Further study of the sonar data, and possibly even another expedition, would be needed before there could be any conclusive answers as to what the object was.

He then referred all further inquiries to the expedition sponsor, Baltic Finland LC, an investor partnership.

Baltic Sea UFO Image Explanation

According to Leigh Dostra, an imaging data analyst in Lindberg's research group, the original sonar scans actually showed three distinct objects, not just the cropped image that was released. She also stated that it was the Swiss officials that determined which part of the image to release to the public.

Original round object:

The research group determined that images a. and c. were two broken apart pieces of one object. Indicating the original shape would have been suacer-like, not the "Millennium Falcon" shape that the media has ridiculed. Compter-matching of the two pieces show they could fit together, and their combined area would be almost 325 feet in diameter. They also determined that the "skid-path" was approximately 600 feet, not the 1600 feet original mentioned to the media.

Long tubular object:

The longer and larger image b., is the most mysterious part. It appears to be approximately 920 feet long, and 205 feet wide. And hollow.

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much much more at rdunk's link...

http://gaanderson.hubpages.com/hub/Baltic-Sea-UFO-UnIdentified-Submerged-Object

majicbar
06-25-2012, 09:35 PM
If one closely looks at the "B" image, on can see that it is in fact a composite of the original object. Something is very wrong here, perhaps a disinformation effort in order to discredit the original report. The composited image does not comport to the originals that were released by the team. Labeling the false image as "what they did not want you to see" is supposed to give it an air of a leak by a whistle-blower. Sad that there are those who post such intellectual graffiti and lies. We wait for the truth.

Lee
06-25-2012, 10:54 PM
I'm of the mind-set of stay informed, and wait and see...
Well said, me too.

If one closely looks at the "B" image, on can see that it is in fact a composite of the original object. Something is very wrong here, perhaps a disinformation effort in order to discredit the original report. The composited image does not comport to the originals that were released by the team. Labeling the false image as "what they did not want you to see" is supposed to give it an air of a leak by a whistle-blower. Sad that there are those who post such intellectual graffiti and lies. We wait for the truth.
Good eye, majicbar! That clearly is a bad photoshop job, very crude and basic.

The way I see it there are still several possible explanations for the 'Baltic anomaly', and I'd like to find out which one fits best.

- A mundane natural formation. (This seems unlikely based on current info.)
- a mundane man made object. (Such as the submarine net theory.)
- An archaeological artifact. (Possibly a megalithic structure? Or maybe a prehistoric site.)
- An exotic technological artifact. (This seems unlikely, given that it appears to be stone. Could there be something underneath or encased by mineral deposits...?) (This does seem unlikely but we can hope.)

epo333
06-25-2012, 10:56 PM
Ahh! I see what you mean here majicbar. Now that you have pointed that out, it really looks like "c" could be flipped around ccw and super imposed on "a".

Despicable goings on there!!!

Thanks!

rdunk
06-25-2012, 10:59 PM
Yes majicbar, it does have a "composite look"! And, while that may even make it to appear to be a hoax, we do have numerous "comparable composites" on this Earth of ours. for instance, some of the high-speed trains would have a very composite look, in a pic taken from above. The engines look like the cars, except are more streamlined. And many, if not most of our mining ore hauling trains would have a composite appearance, particularly all of the cars, and they are a lot longer than 920 feet. As they said, this anomaly is 920 feet long and 205 feet wide, and it is hollow at some height. So, this is no small bag of potatoes.

One thing about the long section "b", it certainly does not fit with any of my "pre-disposed ideas" about what science, and science fiction, have shown us what space vehicles should look like!!!

It is interesting that "image b" has two segments on either end that are identical to the "a" and "c" segments, while the other seven segments are much more narrow. Also, one can notice that one of the end segments (right end on the horizontal pic) is not totally engaged. With what we can see with the "a" and "c" segments, and with what is seen in the "b" object, these segments seem to be designed to "fit together" (hoax or not).

Has someone photo-shopped all of this to make it look the way it does?? What is shown, would seem to be a pretty strange way to try to artificially depict a "sunken UFO". Showing it simply as a bunch of pieces put together, from what look like the original items right there beside it...............while possible, I question that as a probability.

But then, as casperparks said, we must "wait and see", for what might become the truth, as if there is any reason to believe that we will ever get the truth! But casper's "stay-informed" comment is certainly apropos for this little jewel of a story!! :))

epo333
06-26-2012, 02:44 AM
Maybe it's something like this...
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Lee
06-26-2012, 09:57 PM
There is a new video which includes some new images of the anomaly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEKEDJV1jMY&feature=youtu.be

CasperParks
06-26-2012, 10:30 PM
Lee,

The depth does make it difficult for clear images, will be interesting as this investagation continues.

Thanks for sharing

Longeyes
06-27-2012, 02:14 PM
Wasn't lindberg on the kevin smith show last night? I'm sure i saw it posted here
http://kevinsmithshow.com/
Anyone listen to it?

Doc
06-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Wasn't lindberg on the kevin smith show last night? I'm sure i saw it posted here
http://kevinsmithshow.com/
Anyone listen to it?

Newyorklily posted an announcement on our Facebook page but there wasn't much notice given by the program.

southerncross
06-29-2012, 12:00 AM
I'm reposting this over here as this is the post for this topic-
I think we will get some preliminary data before cold weather slows them down this year.
They have something quite unique on their hands. What, ...still remains to be fully defined.
The image reminds me very much of the temples on Malta, but Gobekli Tepe and other temples in Turkey, are round as well. It has no roof on it now, but we do not know if it was roofed over for sacred ceremonies when it was in use. Circular temples were common and if this was built during the ice age, sea levels were much lower then.
While it's important to remain totally open minded on this thing, my mind keeps going back to Malta and Gobeli Tepe.



______________________________________
NEWS RELEASE

15/6/2012, PRESS RELEASE

THE TREASURE HUNTERS, OCEAN X TEAM, DISCOVERED SOMETHING UNIQUE WHEN THEY DOVE DOWN TO THE MYSTERIOUS CIRCLE-SHAPED OBJECT IN THE BALTIC SEA

Treasure hunters confirm they have found something abnormal in the seabed

STOCKHOLM, Sweden, June 15, 2012

The Ocean X Team dove down to the circle-shaped object in the Baltic Sea and met something they never experienced before. First they thought it was just stone or a rock cliff, but after further observations the object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot.

“During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn. I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions “, says Stefan Hogeborn, one of the divers at Ocean X Team.

The path to the object itself can be described as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it.

http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

videos http://www.oceanexplorer.se/videos/


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earthman
06-29-2012, 08:05 PM
Hey all, long time no chat. I've been keeping up on the baltic anomoly. Peter Lingberg was on the Kevin Smith show. I was listen'n. Posted on the Xteam's site is a few new links, and one is to the kevin smith show's whole interview. You need to listen in on this one. it's two hours, and you will get what is real and what has been just rumors. Here is the link to the show. http://soundcloud.com/boris-lauxtermann/kevinsmithshow-ocean-explorer
From what i get from Peter is it's going to be the oldest site in the world ever found from early man. As you will hear, he can't say to much. They are under contract with a swedish tv station on this. I understand. It will be a big release kinda thing. There leaving soon to go back, i think this coming week. Listen in, this is really cool, love this find.

earthman

Longeyes
06-30-2012, 12:05 AM
Nice one Earthman
Thanks for that.

epo333
06-30-2012, 12:39 AM
Hey all, long time no chat. I've been keeping up on the baltic anomoly. Peter Lingberg was on the Kevin Smith show. I was listen'n. Posted on the Xteam's site is a few new links, and one is to the kevin smith show's whole interview. You need to listen in on this one. it's two hours, and you will get what is real and what has been just rumors. Here is the link to the show. http://soundcloud.com/boris-lauxtermann/kevinsmithshow-ocean-explorer
From what i get from Peter is it's going to be the oldest site in the world ever found from early man. As you will hear, he can't say to much. They are under contract with a swedish tv station on this. I understand. It will be a big release kinda thing. There leaving soon to go back, i think this coming week. Listen in, this is really cool, love this find.

earthman

Welcome to the OPF earthman, great first post . . .and Thanks for the link, very nice!

epo333
07-01-2012, 03:20 PM
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Artist Hauke Vagt’s revised and updated image of what the anomaly looks like in it’s entirety.

In a recent Swedish radio interview, Aasberg described some amazing features which seem to indicate that the object is man made, or perhaps a natural formation that has been altered or engineered. In various radio and TV interviews the team have described the surfaces of the dome to be similar to concrete both in texture and appearance. The massive pillar on which the dome rests may be made of a different material indicating that the entire anomaly may not be one complete piece but rather two separate objects with the dome resting on top of the main pillar, and if so, who or what placed the dome on top? Also, when we say pillar – this is a pillar that is approx 180-190 feet thick.

“We arrived there twice, and the question mark has become so much bigger now, “says Dennis Åsberg.The area is a completely circular plate with 180 metres in circumference, and therefore believed that it was the first traces of a meteor.”

“But there are 1,500-metre track in bed until the subject matter-and they have also discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object.– When we went out and saw the walls which were straight and smooth, it was frightening, as in a science-fiction film, “says Dennis Åsberg on Ocean x-team as soon exploring the unknown object again.“

During the dive, the team swam slowly over the top of the object looking down where they encountered the first of many strange sights. Stone circles, like “fireplaces”, of hard black “almost petrified” burnt looking stone each a few inches in diameter, like 4 or 5 pearls in a necklace in various arrangements on top of the dome some 12 metres high off the seabed. The stones appear to be arranged in definite circular shapes, so there is no possibility of this being done through any natural process of weathering or even glaciation.

The Hole
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http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/06/29/baltic-sea-ufo-ocean-x-team-shows-amazing-3d-sonar-picture-update-june-28-2012/

Doc
07-02-2012, 03:10 PM
http://www.disclose.tv/rss2sql/images/700_f3dd62d3d4f5a7e1af6952bc195a1725.jpg



• This is turning into one of the most amazing and perplexing discoveries• Object is 200ft accross mushroom• There are visible formations on top of the object• Spherical object nicknamed The Meringue• Ocean x-team exploring the unknown object• Circular formations of rocks seems deliberate



June 28, 2012 - This is turning into one of the most amazing and perplexing discoveries in history. If you thought all of the questions surrounding the Baltic anomaly would be answered by the return trip, then you’d be wrong. The OceanX team have discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object as well as something resembling a staircase – the weird just got weirder.

The 3D Sonar in the picture above reveals perfectly straight lines and angles embedded into the round structure.

“When we went out and saw the walls which were straight and smooth, it was frightening, as in a science-fiction film”, Dennis Åsberg (Ocean Explorer Co-Founder) said.

From the different reports and interviews given we have amassed the following details of the anomaly.

- Completely circular plate-like exterior.

- 180 metres in circumference.

- Object is 200ft accross mushroom shaped comprising a thick pillar rising 8 metres out of the seabed with a 4 metre thick dome on top (like a mushroom shape) – rising a total of 12 metres (approx 40 feet) high above the surrounding seabed.

- Cavities-like corridors inside the object.

- Straight and smooth walls in certain areas with many right angles.

- There are visible formations on top of the object, which are set at a 90 degree angle and look like passageways or walls, as well as something that looks like it could be a staircase.

- Stone circles, like “fireplaces”, of hard black “almost petrified” burnt looking stone each a few inches in diameter, like 4 or 5 pearls in a necklace in various arrangements on top of the dome.

- Spherical object nicknamed “The Meringue” (pictured below) is 4 metres wide and sits on top of the object.

- Twenty-five centimetre hole on top of the object, it’s not known yet where it leads or what if anything is inside.

- Long runway or “skid marks” leading to object point north.







Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/Baltic_Anomaly_Update_The_weird_just_got_much_weir der/85447#ixzz1zTD6cyor

matthews1969
07-03-2012, 05:10 PM
I am totally captivated by this, what is it ?

What ever it is its big.- 180 metres in circumference !! How wide is that anybody ? http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/06/29/baltic-sea-ufo-ocean-x-team-shows-amazing-3d-sonar-picture-update-june-28-2012/

I've been poring over this pdf on baltic geology http://www.hyria.fi/files/2859/BalticSea_geological_development-DRAFT280410.pdf trying to form a
rational guess.There is going to be a 3/4 week period before any new information comes forward.My guess based on...

"Now it seems that as more and more information is revealed, the mystery surrounding the object grows. The good news for everyone who is intrigued by this story is that a THIRD expedition by the team will set off in approximately two weeks – the OceanX team will be hoping to rule out some of the possible explanations and collect even more data to shed light on this most perplexing mystery http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/06/29/baltic-sea-ufo-ocean-x-team-shows-amazing-3d-sonar-picture-update-june-28-2012/ "

1 geological
2 man made (ancient)
3 man made (post,pre military installation)

My fear is that the ocean x team might get pulled from the site and a team of ringers will replace them.The one Q bugging me "why was ocean x in the baltic sea in the first place" There is a wiff of a curtain around this whole affair.My spidey sense tells me we are not getting the full picture.

The mystery continues

southerncross
07-03-2012, 08:12 PM
It does raise some intriguing questions.

I suppose if one stretched their imagination it could be a very large post glacial drop stone that have been altered by man.
More and more in my mind it is largely man made pre meltoff. There are many such anomalies. Yonaguni, Malta below the sea, they have found entire campsites in the Black Sea, the submerged city at the mouth of the Indus, and the submerged city off of Cuba. We had a thriving civilization before the great melt off. Possibly more civil, though not technological as we are. But then you have to ask yourself which is better?
The purpose of the structure will remain a longer term question, but typically large buildings took entire cities or many cities to construct for some ritual purpose.
Before I leap in to space brothers, I am going to remain earth bound till evidence says otherwise.

The censorship is understandable if the production company wants the full scoop. Ultimately it will required scholars and larger exploration efforts to truly map it and study it at that depth. The curtain is likely contractual in nature as the big reveal will be worth a boat load. The head of the expidition so much as said so in one of his recent interviews when pressed for more information and images.

But as you say, the mystery continues.
Isn't is great that we are still discovering new things about our history and planet ?

murmur
07-04-2012, 05:04 AM
I'd really like to see some actual data that supports any of the claims.....is there any?

matthews1969
07-04-2012, 10:57 AM
I'd really like to see some actual data that supports any of the claims.....is there any?

I'm beginning to suspect the find is out of Ocean X field of experience.Hence the fuzzy pictures and artist rendering.
Until they put some serious money down for equipment and research staff all we have is wild speculation.

They have said they took a rock sample from the site for analysis

Believeit
07-04-2012, 01:21 PM
I'd really like to see some actual data that supports any of the claims.....is there any?

Great point. Waiting for the shoe to drop with these folks. We shall see.

Doc
07-04-2012, 03:08 PM
I'm remaining patient about this because I know from brief experience that underwater exploration is much more complicated and difficult than the equivalent on dry land. Documenting underwater exploration to the standards we like in a NatGeo show is orders of magnitude more demanding and expensive. The best team in the world with a huge budget might not be much farther along. I can wait a while longer. :cool:

timechicken
07-08-2012, 04:08 PM
This is quite obvious, but I heard from a reliable source that the Finnish army has been and is interested in this also and from what I understood have at least taken a look at it with some equipment. No more info unfortunately =)

southerncross
07-09-2012, 07:21 PM
Speaking of National Geographic, Doc, I'm surprised Bob Ballard hasn't stuck his nose in this yet. Particularly after his recent Black Sea expeditions.

Dragonfire
07-09-2012, 11:17 PM
Speaking of National Geographic, Doc, I'm surprised Bob Ballard hasn't stuck his nose in this yet. Particularly after his recent Black Sea expeditions.

Yes, they need someone of notoriety to get involved to keep it in the spotlight so to speak.

Doc
07-12-2012, 04:51 PM
Sonar scans show that 'UFO' at bottom of Baltic sea may actually be a top-secret Nazi anti-submarine defence lost since the Second World War

Object is raised about 10 to 13ft above seabed and curved at the sides like a mushroom
World War II expert says object may be Nazi anti-submarine weapon
Wire meshes could be used to baffle submarine radar and make them crash

Area vital to German war machine
Object has wire meshes - which could explain why dive team's equipment failed
Divers say phones and some cameras switch off when close to the object


By Rob Waugh (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Rob+Waugh)
UPDATED: 09:06 EST, 12 July 2012


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2172503/Sonar-scans-UFO-Baltic-sea-actually-secret-Nazi-super-weapon-lost-World-War-II.html#ixzz20Q6AgULl

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/12/article-2172503-1408086A000005DC-594_472x423.jpg Sonar scans have shown that the mysterious object could be a huge Nazi anti-submarine weapon lost beneath the waves since World War II


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2172503/Sonar-scans-UFO-Baltic-sea-actually-secret-Nazi-super-weapon-lost-World-War-II.html#ixzz20Q6hrlqY

Doc
07-14-2012, 04:08 PM
The Awful Truth Revealed:

616

CasperParks
07-14-2012, 08:42 PM
The Awful Truth Revealed:

616


Classic!

epo333
07-15-2012, 01:42 AM
Here is a possibility that crossed my mind, and rumbles my gut feeling about this Baltic sea anomaly.
At 3:40 in the video below, a UFO pops into view, slows down and sets a course. The weird thing is, it strongly resembles the under-sea UFO . . . (you be the judge.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owe4U4OkCFE&NR=1&feature=endscreen

These space-craft are said to be at least 3 to 4 miles across !

CasperParks
07-15-2012, 02:56 AM
epo333,

I did see what you're mentioning...

southerncross
07-16-2012, 05:58 PM
I have a stupid question....(usually the best are).....if this thing is indeed a WWII Nazi radar tactic, how was it built?

Did they just build it on land and drop in in to the deep hoping it would skid in to place upright and in one piece?

I know many inexpensive tactics were used in WWII, the fake soldier and tank trick that Britain used to trick Germany, the cheap 2 shot rifles they dropped behind German lines to French civilians to aide in killing German soldiers in their retreat on D Day, etc. But thisis deep, and it's honking huge. I'm just wondering outloud here. Did they have the ability to do that not once but twice in that bay ? and get it right ?

southerncross
07-31-2012, 09:00 PM
Any current news on this ?

CasperParks
07-31-2012, 11:09 PM
Any current news on this ?

Looks like there is something on their website:

http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

earthman
08-01-2012, 11:15 PM
They are under contract with a Swedish tv station so we are limited on facts yet. Peter said on The Kevin Smith show that they would release it all on what i think he said a tv show. A documentry of some sort. Can't wait.....

earthman

Doc
08-02-2012, 05:33 PM
Thanks for the update.

Marvin
08-09-2012, 01:54 PM
There are going to be a lot of "let down" folks out there when the results are made public, me thinks.

Dragonfire
08-30-2012, 09:26 PM
More News on the anomoly

"A feature on the floor of the Baltic Sea that was discovered last summer by Swedish treasure hunters is making headlines once again. The latest media coverage draws upon an hour-long radio interview with Peter Lindberg, head of the Ocean X Team (which made the "discovery"), in which Lindberg delivers a string of cryptic and titillating statements about the "strange" and "mysterious" seafloor object his team has been exploring for a year."

"The expert analysis suggests this is just a glacial deposit that the Ocean X Team "discovered" in a low-resolution sonar scan. Widespread media coverage, fame and a worldwide Internet following have since ensued. Lindberg laments the fact that no organizations will sponsor his investigation. Some organizations have supposedly told him funding the dives isn't worth their time because the anomaly "might be something very unexplainable." He asks people to support his and his fellow divers' work by purchasing apparel from the Ocean X website."

Full story here:
http://news.yahoo.com/mysterious-baltic-sea-object-glacial-deposit-154845865.html

CasperParks
08-31-2012, 05:37 AM
Mmmmm.....

Dragonfire
08-31-2012, 02:36 PM
As Marvin stated.......
There are going to be a lot of "let down" folks out there when the results are made public, me thinks.

Now it looks like they are trying to get something back for their efforts......Time will tell

Marvin
08-31-2012, 05:34 PM
An interesting write up on Fox...


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/08/31/deep-sea-baltic-ufo-hunt-turns-up-glacial-deposit/

Dragonfire
09-01-2012, 12:07 AM
Seems they are all on the same track with the story. Now we will wait for more...........I'm not going to hold my breath

Dragonfire
09-12-2012, 02:55 AM
More news ............ Here is a partial out take from a newer story:


According to Pravda, the Russian newspaper, a retired Swedish submarine officer, Anders Autellus, previously speculated that the undersea object may have been the base of a structure used during World War II to block Russian and British submarine signals.

Autellus told the Swedish newspaper, Expressen, that huge concrete structures were built as traps by Germany to make it difficult for Soviet submarines to navigate in the Gulf of Finland during the war. These large steel wire mesh constructions were reportedly meant to cause signal and radar problems in submarines.

Even as recently as the June expedition to the bottom of the Baltic Sea, divers reported equipment malfunctions when they approached the anomaly, but a concrete reason for it hasn't been determined.

So, no one is saying definitively that the object was, in fact, Nazi-related or more simply, a glacial deposit just sitting on the sea floor.


So, where does all of this leave the jumbled, confusing un-focused adventure of the Baltic Sea anomaly?

Nobody seems to want to fund any further investigations of Lindberg's discovery, says Life's Little Mysteries.

And Lindberg is soliciting people to help support his research by purchasing apparel from his Ocean X website.


Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/baltic-sea-anomaly-now-rumored-to-have-nazi-origin_n_1872393.html

Dragonfire
09-12-2012, 03:03 AM
Another article which is basically the same as above post from from the Daily Mail UK

Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2172503/Sonar-scans-UFO-Baltic-sea-actually-secret-Nazi-super-weapon-lost-World-War-II.html

Doc
09-20-2012, 04:57 PM
http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2012/09/12/mysterious-object-at-bottom-of-baltic-sea-still-making-news/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3AOMP_FNMtU

CasperParks
09-20-2012, 07:23 PM
I'll watch the documentary.

Marvin
09-25-2012, 01:47 PM
I hope it isn't another show like this:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P84OKTUx6LY

earthman
09-25-2012, 05:44 PM
i don't think it will be like that one, lol. I remember watchin that when it was on. i still think it is something from just after the ice-age when the sea's were lower. Nothing ufo-ish. Can't wait to see what the hell it is though.

earthman

southerncross
09-29-2012, 08:14 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SX38PfkF2XU

Check out clip at 1:51. He discusses mushroom shaped buildings on moon.
Coincidence? Or not ?

Garuda
11-20-2012, 04:43 PM
For those of you who like conspiracy theories: Robert Bauman published a PDF that links this find in the Baltic sea to Kubrick's 2001:A Space Odyssey.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8RmocARI-vWck5fVXNEM1RBZFk/edit

Doc
11-20-2012, 05:22 PM
For those of you who like conspiracy theories: Robert Bauman published a PDF that links this find in the Baltic sea to Kubrick's 2001:A Space Odyssey.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8RmocARI-vWck5fVXNEM1RBZFk/edit

Very interesting and loads of detail! :cool:

Dragonfire
11-20-2012, 10:13 PM
For those of you who like conspiracy theories: Robert Bauman published a PDF that links this find in the Baltic sea to Kubrick's 2001:A Space Odyssey.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8RmocARI-vWck5fVXNEM1RBZFk/edit

:thumbup: Some cool stuff

Gemeos
11-21-2012, 02:33 PM
Interesting indeed! Thanks for sharing ;-)

southerncross
08-29-2013, 12:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hRmYuXnaz0

Dennis Asberg, co-owner of the Ocean Explorer X-Team in Stockholm, Sweden, has released a youtube video to report that the Swedish Navy is “very, very interested in the circular object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea that we have discovered.” He describes a Swedish Navy ship coming to where they were working at the anomalous site, where “Swedish Navy ships should not be there.” According to Asberg, there has also been a meeting with Swedish Navy officials without detailing what was said or agreed. The Ocean Explorer X-Team is preparing in September 2013 to travel again to the site of the anomalous underwater object with better photographic gear to make clearer images. Then next spring 2014, the X-Team plans to return to the anomalous object with scientists to finally learn what the circular object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea is. Dennis Asberg asks this question in his youtube video: “Why is the Swedish military interested in the object? Perhaps they already know what it is.”

CasperParks
08-29-2013, 02:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hRmYuXnaz0

Dennis Asberg, co-owner of the Ocean Explorer X-Team in Stockholm, Sweden, has released a youtube video to report that the Swedish Navy is “very, very interested in the circular object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea that we have discovered.” He describes a Swedish Navy ship coming to where they were working at the anomalous site, where “Swedish Navy ships should not be there.” According to Asberg, there has also been a meeting with Swedish Navy officials without detailing what was said or agreed. The Ocean Explorer X-Team is preparing in September 2013 to travel again to the site of the anomalous underwater object with better photographic gear to make clearer images. Then next spring 2014, the X-Team plans to return to the anomalous object with scientists to finally learn what the circular object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea is. Dennis Asberg asks this question in his youtube video: “Why is the Swedish military interested in the object? Perhaps they already know what it is.”

Additional questions on that Baltic Sea anomaly... It was said by one group, an old WWII item and something to do with subs.

If possible to raise the anomaly to the surface, it would take a lot of airbags. Again, if it was even plausible to try and raise it.

timechicken
10-27-2013, 02:02 AM
Annoyingly little information available from this interesting little artifact! Wish the Swedish authorities would speak up, they must know something. Also as I said before, Finnish Navy is known to have at least taken a peek what it is. No word from them either..

epo333
03-07-2014, 12:31 AM
The Baltic Sea Anomaly - Connecting the dots of Courtney Brown's March Announcement
Saturday, March 1, 2014
By Laron

Dennis Asberg, co-founder of the Swedish-based diving Ocean X Team which discovered the Baltic Sea Anomaly back on June the 19th 2011, just said something very interesting within a YouTube video update, based on the Baltic Sea Anomaly on the 27th of February, 2014, a few days back.

Could Dennis Asberg and the Ocean X Team be waiting on more results of additional scientific tests from the Baltic Sea Anomaly, also called the Baltic Sea UFO by some? Are they testing parts of the actual anomaly it self or have they found something else inside it which they have not discussed yet with the public?

Based upon granite laying on top of the Baltic Sea Anomaly, it's estimated it's been sitting there for 15,000-140,000 years.

http://www.transients.info/2014/03/the-baltic-sea-anomaly-connecting-dots.html

VIDEO UPDATE!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKb68o-wnH8

CasperParks
07-10-2017, 04:29 AM
Unsure what is happening with research on the Baltic Sea Anomaly. One group claims that Ocean X Team is no longer interested. However, Ocean X Team has video about research for 2017. I am shrugging on this... Maybe something changed since Ocean X Team posted a video in December 2016... Hoping for additional updates, I subscribed to both groups at youtube.


Baltic Sea Anomaly, 06/15/2017 (https://www.balticseaanomaly.com/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQH0qwGdY6w

Per the website Baltic Sea Anomaly (https://www.balticseaanomaly.com/), they are attempting to raise money.

However, confusion is present regarding Ocean X Team.
Ocean X Team (http://www.oceanexplorer.se/)posted update video 12/18/2016


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq3nJJq964g

A99
07-10-2017, 03:41 PM
Thanks for the update on that Baltic Sea Anomaly. I wondered what ever became of that and now I know. Hope they find the funding to go down there to take another look at it!

guruji
02-03-2019, 09:33 AM
Hi guys did they try to enter in this ufo?
Thks.

CasperParks
02-03-2019, 08:56 PM
Hi guys did they try to enter in this ufo?
Thks.
What the Baltic Sea Anomaly is, remains unclear. I haven't read or seen reports of anyone entering or attempting it. That's provided there is an entryway. Many unanswered questions. Is it natural? Is it human-made? Is it of alien origin? Has it been there for centuries or millenniums? A lot of unknowns. It appears to be partly buried beneath sedimentation.


Updates from Ocean X Team - 2018 (http://www.oceanexplorer.se/)

Baltic Sea Anomaly: Dec 11, 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIcGLpOCaAk

The Mystery Beneath: Jun 14, 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGvuLVjwQ8c

CasperParks
02-03-2019, 09:32 PM
Added notation: A lot of people assume that the Baltic Sea was there first... What if the Baltic Sea covered what was already there? Did the Anomaly exist before the Baltic Sea?

guruji
02-27-2019, 01:11 PM
Yes I read somewhere that they entered in it. I read to about this that when they go near it compasses or phones don't work.

CasperParks
04-23-2020, 12:07 AM
Ocean X Team: Baltic Anomaly 2, 2020 Trailer (http://www.oceanexplorer.se/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biYsnfdYNTY



Youtube Description:
Official trailer 2020 - Baltic Anomaly 2
Follow Ocean X Team’s many and different underwater adventures starting with the Baltic anomaly, released in early summer 2020 on Amazon prime, Vimeo and other platforms!

Since the Baltic Anomaly was discovered, several years have passed. Hopefully we'll learn something new. Based on the description at Youtube, it appears to be a trailer for Ocean X Team's underwater adventures that includes the Baltic Anomaly. They are working with Marczak Communications (http://www.mzk.se/).

Dragonfire
04-30-2020, 08:51 PM
Nice to see you still around Casper

CasperParks
05-01-2020, 03:00 AM
Nice to see you still around Casper

Been a member at The Outpost Forum for a long time... I like it here.