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Doc
02-09-2012, 06:14 AM
'Woolly mammoth' spotted in Siberia

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01450/mammoth_main_1450239a.jpg Shock footage ... 'woolly mammoth' crossing river
Barcroft Media

By STAFF REPORTER

Published: 08th February 2012


A BEAST lurches through icy waters in a sighting a paranormal investigator thinks could prove woolly mammoths are not extinct after all.

The animal – thought to have mostly died out roughly 4,000 years ago – was apparently filmed wading through a river in the freezing wilds of Siberia.
The jaw-dropping footage was caught by a government-employed engineer last summer in the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug region of Siberia, it is claimed.

ANIMAL previously thought extinct apparently filmed crossing icy river

Follow the link to see the video footage.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/video/sun-exclusive/4116533/The-woolly-mammoth-alive.html#ooid=5oZDBoMzreLfI78xe1sCSLDmQQFyhXym

ProblemChild
02-09-2012, 09:50 AM
A woolly mamoth reported by Mr Cohen or a bear with a fish in its mouth.

Doc
02-09-2012, 02:10 PM
Some people are seeing a bear with a big salmon in its mouth, but...


"Its hair matches samples recovered from mammoth remains regularly dug up from the permafrost in frozen Russia." according to the story at the link:


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4116326/Woolly-mammoth-spotted-in-Siberia.html

That said, Russian journalism often runs "science" stories that are not supported by more than one source. Often, the "facts" they report are one person's theory and that person sounds like a bit of a loony. This is claimed to be footage found by a "government-employed engineer" which might put it in a different category.

ProblemChild
02-09-2012, 03:34 PM
Hi Doc, at the start of the video it is copyrighted cohen/barcroft media. That means allnewsweb so a big red flag for me. There is no part of the clip in which you can judge size. For a look at the last few videos hosted at barcroft for Mr Cohen go here:

http://www.barcroftmedia.com/index.php?10049716221355947120.0000133232503386157 425109022012152541

How did they get hair samples?

Chris
02-09-2012, 03:36 PM
A couple of points in the "not a wooly mammoth" camp:

- The river looks exactly like a river that would have salmon living in it.
- And I can't think of a reason why a wooly mammoth would wade into an ice-cold stream.

Doc
02-09-2012, 04:00 PM
Hi Doc, at the start of the video it is copyrighted cohen/barcroft media. That means allnewsweb so a big red flag for me. There is no part of the clip in which you can judge size. For a look at the last few videos hosted at barcroft for Mr Cohen go here:

http://www.barcroftmedia.com/index.php?10049716221355947120.0000133232503386157 425109022012152541

How did they get hair samples?

I only saw multiple copies of the mammoth video. What am I missing?

ProblemChild
02-09-2012, 04:18 PM
The link should take yo to a page with the last seven videos from Mr Cohen, the mammoth, space probe at a demo, grandmother kept alien in freezer etc. If it;s not working go to the barcroft homepage and do a video search for "Cohen".

Garuda
02-09-2012, 04:34 PM
I only saw multiple copies of the mammoth video. What am I missing?

Doc, the source of the video appears to be none other than Michael Cohen, who has proven again and again to just make things up to get page views and earn money that way.

Doc
02-09-2012, 04:43 PM
Doc, the source of the video appears to be none other than Michael Cohen, who has proven again and again to just make things up to get page views and earn money that way.

I can't tell if he is the source or if he just latched on to it to get a free ride. If it is his, then it is most likely crap.

From the comments:

"Let's see; the picture is fuzzy and out of focus. That means it has to be a UFO, Sasquatch, or the last living Obama supporter on Earth. On the other hand, it's not under a bus so it must be one of the first two."

:lmao:

Doc
02-14-2012, 07:04 AM
Last week, a new video surfaced claiming to show a live woolly mammoth — an animal scientists think has been extinct for at least four millennia — crossing a river in Russia. The suspiciously blurry footage was allegedly "caught by a government-employed engineer last summer in the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug region of Siberia," according to a story in The Sun newspaper.

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Some suspected the video is an outright hoax — a computer-generated mammoth digitally inserted (http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2140-woolly-mammoth-video-siberia.html) into a real river scene. Many others, however, were convinced that the animal was real: not a mammoth, but instead a bear with a large fish hanging from its mouth. That would explain its relatively small size, the shape of the "trunk" on its head, and the color. Experts cast doubts on the video's authenticity; Derek Serra, a Hollywood video effects artist, concluded that it "appears to have been intentionally blurred."









http://i.livescience.com/images/i/24331/iFF/mammoth.jpg?1328811834



Screen grab of video showing alleged woolly mammoth crossing a river in Siberia.
CREDIT: The Sun/Michael Cohen/Barcroft Media
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" Serra isn't the only expert who can shed some light on this mystery: another person is Ludovic Petho. His name may not be familiar to most people, but his work has been seen by millions; he filmed themammoth footage at the Kitoy River in Siberia's Sayan Mountains in the summer of 2011.
He's not an anonymous government engineer, but instead a writer and videographer. Petho filmed the river scene during a 10-day solo hike in the mountains as part of a video project he's working on about his grandfather's escape from a Siberian POW camp in 1915 and his walk across Siberia to Budapest, Hungary. The footage may end up being used in a documentary film — but there's one big difference between the video he shot and the woolly mammoth video.
"I don't recall seeing a mammoth; there were bears, deer, and sable," he said in an interview with Life's Little Mysteries. "But no woolly mammoths. I had no idea my footage was used to make this fake sighting." Petho noted that his original video had been available on YouTube since July 2011, depicting an exactly identical scene — minus the faked woolly mammoth, of course."
This story was provided by Life's Little Mysteries (http://lifeslittlemysteries.com/), a sister site to LiveScience. Follow Life's Little Mysteries on Twitter @llmysteries (http://twitter.com/#%21/llmysteries), then join us on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LifesLittleMysteries).

http://www.livescience.com/18440-woolly-mammoth-video-hoax.html

Redbone
02-14-2012, 05:20 PM
I have to admit that I really wanted this to be true. There is something inside me that wishes these majestic beast could once again walk the earth. It is like the first time I saw Jurasic Park, I just sat in disbelief and my emotions went all over the place. I realize their time has come and gone but that doesn't change my desire to experience what my ancestors much have felt in their presence. Mammoths just as the Buffalo were hunted by my people, but Natives took only what they needed to survive and the spirit of the beast was treated with reverance.

As I sit here at my computer, surrounded by the modern technical advancements that I enjoy in my daily life, I cannot help but wish I could close my eyes for a moment, be standing on the rocky bank of that meandering river 10,000 years ago and see that wonderful creature as the Great Spirit intended!

Garuda
02-14-2012, 05:44 PM
I have to admit that I really wanted this to be true. There is something inside me that wishes these majestic beast could once again walk the earth. It is like the first time I saw Jurasic Park, I just sat in disbelief and my emotions went all over the place. I realize their time has come and gone but that doesn't change my desire to experience what my ancestors much have felt in their presence. Mammoths just as the Buffalo were hunted by my people, but Natives took only what they needed to survive and the spirit of the beast was treated with reverance.

As I sit here at my computer, surrounded by the modern technical advancements that I enjoy in my daily life, I cannot help but wish I could close my eyes for a moment, be standing on the rocky bank of that meandering river 10,000 years ago and see that wonderful creature as the Great Spirit intended!

They're actually trying to clone them.

See, e.g.:
- http://news.discovery.com/animals/woolly-mammoth-cloned-111205.html
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16068581

Redbone
02-14-2012, 06:56 PM
Garuda,

Yeah I have been reading about that, it will be awesome if it can be done. I would love to see a live, full grown bull, tusk and all, just for the experience. Imagine the possiblities that would create, Sabertooths, Giant Ground Sloths and numerous others from that period. Once perfected, it would be a great tool for bringing back some of the many species that man destroyed.

Gemeos
02-16-2012, 02:21 PM
Well I wouldn't like to see a Jurasic Park scenario coming true.

Let nature alone. If they're extinct, there must be a reason for that.

Redbone
02-16-2012, 03:12 PM
Well I wouldn't like to see a Jurasic Park scenario coming true.

Let nature alone. If they're extinct, there must be a reason for that.


I have to disagree with you here. Given the right circumstance, I personally would love to see living-breathing Dinosuars. I am not talking about Ringling Bros, but in a controlled environment designed specifically for them.

Doc
02-16-2012, 03:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGHkGmOmD4&amp;feature=related

Redbone
02-16-2012, 09:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uS8ZVWw2AI


Can you picture this with a Velociraptor on the other side of the glass?

"Mummy, what is he trying to tell me?"

"He wants you to step away from the glass!" Yeah right :das

It could be done in a safe manner, problem is it probably want be!!

Doc
02-16-2012, 11:59 PM
That is a brave little girl!