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Dragonfire
02-09-2012, 05:30 PM
(CNN) -- Russian scientists briefly pierced the two-mile-thick veil over a freshwater lake hidden beneath Antarctica's ice sheet for millions of years, polar researchers announced Wednesday.

Read Here: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/08/world/europe/russia-antarctic-lake/index.html

More stories here: http://www.bing.com/search?q=lake+vostok+antarctica&form=msnwis

Dragonfire
02-09-2012, 05:33 PM
Vostok: The Lake of Shadows
by Scott Corrales
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Doubt of the real facts, as I must reveal them, is inevitable; yet if I suppressed what will seem extravagant and incredible there would be nothing left.

~H. P. Lovecraft
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The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that “someone” or “something” was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica. The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject—it wasn’t that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.

Read complete article here: http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Vostok.htm

Garuda
02-09-2012, 05:37 PM
The BBC reported on it as well:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16907998

Doc
02-09-2012, 05:58 PM
Vostok: The Lake of Shadows
by Scott Corrales
================================================== =============================================
Doubt of the real facts, as I must reveal them, is inevitable; yet if I suppressed what will seem extravagant and incredible there would be nothing left.

~H. P. Lovecraft
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The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that “someone” or “something” was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica. The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject—it wasn’t that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.

Read complete article here: http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Vostok.htm

There is a great deal of intriguing stuff at that link. Somebody could spend days researching those stories. Great find!

Dragonfire
02-09-2012, 06:15 PM
There is a great deal of intriguing stuff at that link. Somebody could spend days researching those stories. Great find!

Haha...I did the general link, I'm still looking at the other links. Most state the same thing. I do like the conspiracy links. The part about the Nazi's having a base there.

Plus the fact that the Piri Reis Map (which has been done on History Channel) come's into play also.


The Piri Reis map shows the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, and the northern coast of Antarctica. The northern coastline of Antarctica is perfectly detailed. The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the Antarctic region 300 years before it was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under the ice. Geological evidence confirms that the latest date Queen Maud Land could have been charted in an ice-free state is 4000 BC.


From above link and here: http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Vostok.htm

This could be the stuff of another thread :das

Doc
02-09-2012, 07:26 PM
Haha...I did the general link, I'm still looking at the other links. Most state the same thing. I do like the conspiracy links. The part about the Nazi's having a base there.

Plus the fact that the Piri Reis Map (which has been done on History Channel) come's into play also.



From above link and here: http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Vostok.htm

This could be the stuff of another thread :das

I tried to research the US 1947 expedition a few years ago and couldn't find any official documents or accounts that helped one way or the other. Maybe better information is out there now.

epo333
02-09-2012, 11:41 PM
I'm glad this started up here...

Here is more FWIW:

A shocking Ministry of Defense report on the Russian scientific team [photo top left] that has successfully drilled 3,768 meters into the world’s largest submerged lake on the continent of Antarctica, believed to be untouched for over 20 million years, states that the underwater video camera discovered the “striking image” of a “golden-like swastika” estimated to be no less than 100 meters in height and width.

According to this report, the discovery of this underwater swastika was made on 30 January after which the Ministry ordered into silence the scientists who have been working on this project for the past 20 years until highly specialized encrypted communication devices could be delivered to them and sparking fears among many that they were missing as they had been “out of communication” for 5 days.


Upon their receiving their new communication “devices” the scientists released their first report to the world through Russian state media’s RIA Novosti which added into their announcement of this historic mission the following:

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/02/08/nazi-swastika-found-in-ancient-antarctica-lake-sparks-russian-fears/

epo333
02-09-2012, 11:50 PM
'We raised 40 liters of water': Details of Lake Vostok drill success

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Jubilant Russian scientists are carrying home 40 liters of relic water, which waited for them, unblemished, in the Antarctic, long before the man first trod the Earth. Lake Vostok’s treasury is ready to reveal its millions-year-old secrets.

*Forget the world’s economic crisis and civil war in Syria: the severe, majestic Antarctic is opening up its eternal fridge to the mankind. Scientists at Vostok Antarctic research station – drilling towards the largest freshwater tank, corked for 20 million years in eastern Antarctica – secured several dozen liters of prehistoric water.


http://rt.com/news/water-russia-vostok-antarctica-819/

atmjjc
02-10-2012, 12:34 AM
WoW...I stand speechless... Trying to assimilate all this...WoW

norenrad
02-10-2012, 02:00 AM
I'm more concerned about new germs. I'm in no way a germaphobe, but there has to be something down there we haven't encountered yet. In fact, I had thought that it would be a bad idea to bring that water to the surface when I first heard about this... but there ya have it, there they are walking around with jugs of it.

Dragonfire
02-10-2012, 02:04 AM
UFOs, Nazis, Atlantis, alien biological weapons, and the quest for the lost land of Thule all sound like a recent episode topics of Stargate SG-1. But these are just some of the stories associated with a sizable military project called Operation Highjump that was conducted by the U.S. Navy in 1946 in Antarctica.

In 1943, German Navy Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz stated that the German submarine fleet had "built for the Führer an impregnable fortress at the other end of the world," in the region of Queen Maude’s Land, later renamed Neuschwabenland

According to German naval archives, two months after Germany surrendered to the Allies in April, 1945, the German submarine U-530 left the Port of Kiel bound for Antarctica. Once the submarine arrived at the South Pole, 16 members of its crew were ordered to construct an ice cave in the region of Neuschwabenland. When construction was complete, several boxes of relics from the Third Reich, including Hitler’s secret files, were supposedly stored there. The sub then entered the Argentinean port of Mar-del-Plata and surrendered to authorities. It is also rumored that the submarine U-977 delivered the remains of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun to Neuschwabenland, for DNA cloning purposes. In August, 1945, one month and seven days after the surrender of U-530, U-977 also entered the waters of Mar-del-Plata and surrendered to authorities.

In 1946, U.S. Navy Admiral Marc A. Mitscher appointed Captain Richard H. Cruzen as commander of Operation Highjump, whose purported purpose was to map the frozen continent of Antarctica while looking for uranium deposits in the region. But several conspiracy researchers assert that they were actually looking for the underground Nazi base that supposedly warehoused German treasure and Hitler’s DNA.

Cruzen had expeditionary experience in Antarctica, having served with Rear Admiral Richard Byrd on the U.S. Antarctic Service Expedition from 1939 to 1941. In 1947, Operation Highjump commenced as part of the U.S. Naval Antarctic Developments Project.

Mapping or Reconnaissance

There is more at http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Vostok.htm

Dragonfire
02-10-2012, 02:10 AM
Also:


In 1929, during renovations of the old Imperial Palace in what is now Istanbul (formerly Constantinople), a painted, parchment map, drawn on a gazelle skin.was found, dated in the month of Muharrem, in the Moslem year 919 (A.D. 1513), and signed by an admiral of the Turkish navy, Piri Ibn Haji Memmed, known as Piri Re'is.

Research showed that it was a genuine document drawn in 1513 by Piri Reis in the sixteenth century.

His passion was cartography. His high rank within the Turkish navy allowed him to have a privileged access to the Imperial Library of Constantinople.

Piri Re'is own commentary indicates that some of his source maps were from the time of Alexander the Great (332 B.C.)..

The Controversy


The Piri Reis map shows the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, and the northern coast of Antarctica. The northern coastline of Antarctica is perfectly detailed. The most puzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the Antarctic region 300 years before it was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under the ice. Geological evidence confirms that the latest date Queen Maud Land could have been charted in an ice-free state is 4000 BC.

On 6th July 1960 the U. S. Air Force responded to Prof. Charles H. Hapgood of Keene College, specifically to his request for an evaluation of the ancient Piri Reis Map.


6 July, 1960


Subject: Admiral Piri Reis Map

TO: Prof. Charles H. Hapgood

Keene College

Keene, New Hampshire



Dear Professor Hapgood,


Your request of evaluation of certain unusual features of the Piri Reis map of 1513 by this organization has been reviewed.


The claim that the lower part of the map portrays the Princess Martha Coast of Queen Maud Land, Antarctic, and the Palmer Peninsular, is reasonable. We find that this is the most logical and in all probability the correct interpretation of the map.


The geographical detail shown in the lower part of the map agrees very remarkably with the results of the seismic profile made across the top of the ice-cap by the Swedish-British Antarctic Expedition of 1949.


This indicates the coastline had been mapped before it was covered by the ice-cap.


The ice-cap in this region is now about a mile thick.


We have no idea how the data on this map can be reconciled with the supposed state of geographical knowledge in 1513.



Harold Z. Ohlmeyer Lt. Colonel, USAF Commander


The official science has been saying all along that the ice-cap which covers the Antarctic is millions of years old.

The Piri Reis map shows that the northern part of that continent has been mapped before the ice did cover it. That should make think it has been mapped million years ago, but that's impossible since mankind did not exist at that time.

Further and more accurate studies have proven that the last period of ice-free condition in the Antarctic ended about 6000 years ago. There are still doubts about the beginning of this ice-free period, which has been put by different researchers everything between year 13000 and 9000 BC.

The question is: Who mapped the Queen Maud Land of Antarctic 6000 years ago? Which unknown civilization had the technology or the need to do that?

To draw his map, Piri Reis used several different sources, collected here and there along his journeys. He himself has written notes on the map that give us a picture of the work he had been doing on the map. He says he had been not responsible for the original surveying and cartography. His role was merely that of a compiler who used a large number of source-maps. He says then that some of the source-maps had been drawn by contemporary sailors, while others were instead charts of great antiquity, dating back up to the 4th century BC or earlier.

Dr. Charles Hapgood, in his book Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings (Turnstone books, London 1979, preface), said that:


It appears that accurate information has been passed down from people to people. It appears that the charts must have originated with a people unknown and they were passed on, perhaps by the Minoans and the Phoenicians, who were, for a thousand years and more, the greatest sailors of the ancient world. We have evidence that they were collected and studied in the great library of Alexandria (Egypt) and the compilations of them were made by the geographers who worked there.


Piri Reis had probably come into possession of charts once located in the Library of Alexandria, the well-known most important library of the ancient times.

According to Hapgood's reconstruction, copies of these documents and some of the original source charts were transferred to other centers of learning, and among them to Constantinople. Then in 1204, year of the fourth crusade, when the Venetians entered Constantinople, those maps begun to circulate among the European sailors.

Most of these maps - Hapgood goes on - were of the Mediterranean and the Black sea. But maps of other areas survived. These included maps of the Americas and maps of the Arctic and Antarctic Oceans. It becomes clear that the ancient voyagers travelled from pole to pole. Unbelievable as it may appear, the evidence nevertheless indicates that some ancient people explored Antarctic when its coasts were free of ice. It is clear too, that they had an instrument of navigation for accurately determining the longitudes that was far superior to anything possessed by the peoples of ancient, medieval or modern times until the second half of the 18th century. [...]

In 1953, a Turkish naval officer sent the Piri Reis map to the U.S. Navy Hydrographic Bureau. To evaluate it, M.I. Walters, the Chief Engineer of the Bureau, called for help Arlington H. Mallery, an authority on ancient maps, who had previously worked with him.

After a long study, Mallery discovered the projection method used. To check out the accuracy of the map, he made a grid and transferred the Piri Reis map onto a globe: the map was totally accurate. He stated that the only way to draw map of such accuracy was the aerial surveying: but who, 6000 years ago, could have used airplanes to map the earth??

The Hydrographic Office couldn't believe what they saw: they were even able to correct some errors in the present days maps!!

The precision on determining the longitudinal coordinates, on the other hand, shows that to draw the map it was necessary to use the spheroid trigonometry, a process supposedly not know until the middle of 18th century.

The way the Piri Reis map shows the Queen Maud land, its coastlines, its rivers, mountain ranges, plateaus, deserts, bays, has been confirmed by a British-Swedish expedition to Antarctic (as said by Olhmeyer in his letter to Hapggod); the researchers, using sonar and seismic soundings, indicated that those bays and rivers etc, were underneath the ice-cap, which was about one mile thick.

Charles Hapggod, in 1953, wrote a book called Earth's shifting crust: a key to some basic problems of earth science, where he made up a theory to explain how Antarctic had been ice-free until year 4000 BC.

The theory summing up is as follows:

The reason Antarctic was ice-free, and therefore much warmer, it is to be found in the fact that, at one time, its location wasn't the south pole. It was located approximately 2000 miles further north. Hapgood says this "would have put it outside the Antarctic Circle in a temperate or cold temperate climate.

The reason why the continent moved down to its present location has to be found in a mechanism called "earth-crust-displacement". This mechanism, not to be confused with the plate-tectonics or the continental drift, is one whereby the lithosphere, the whole outer crust of the earth "may be displaced at times, moving over the soft inner body, much as the skin of an orange, if it were loose, might shift over the inner part of the orange all in one piece".

This theory was sent to Albert Einstein, which answered to Hapgood in very enthusiastic terms. Though geologists did not seem to accept Hapgood's theory, Einstein seemed to be as much open as Hapgood saying:

In a polar region there is a continual deposition of ice, which is not symmetrically distributed about the pole. The earth's rotation acts on these unsymmetrically deposited masses, and produces a centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal momentum produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth's crust over the rest of the earth's body...

~Einstein's foreword to "Earth's shifting crust"

(Continued next post)

Dragonfire
02-10-2012, 02:11 AM
(Continued)


In fact Piri Reis himself admitted he based his map on way older charts; and those older charts had been used as sources by others who have drawn different maps still of great precision.

Impressive is the "Dulcert's Portolano", year 1339, where the latitude of Europe and North Africa is perfect, and the longitudinal coordinates of the Mediterranean and of the Black sea are approximated of half degree.

An even more amazing chart is the "Zeno's chart", year 1380. It shows a big area in the north, going up till the Greenland; Its precision is flabbergasting. "It's impossible" says Hapgood "that someone in the fourteenth century could have found the exact latitudes of these places, not to mention the precision of the longitudes..."

Another amazing chart is the one drawn by the Turkish Hadji Ahmed, year 1559, in which he shows a land stripe, about 1600 Km. wide, that joins Alaska and Siberia. Such a natural bridge has been then covered by the water due to the end of the glacial period, which rose up the sea level.

Oronteus Fineus was another one who drew a map of incredible precision. He too represented the Antarctic with no ice-cap, year 1532.

There are maps showing Greenland as two separated islands, as it was confirmed by a polar French expedition which found out that there is an ice cap quite thick joining what it is actually two islands.

When human beings were supposed to live in a primitive manner, someone "put on paper" the whole geography of the earth. And this common knowledge somehow fell into pieces, then gathered here and there by several people, who had lost though the knowledge, and just copied what they could find in libraries, bazaars, markets and about all kind of places.

Hapggod made a disclosure which amazingly lead further on this road: he found out a cartographic document copied by an older source carved on a rock column, China, year 1137. It showed the same high level of technology of the other western charts, the same grid method, the same use of spheroid trigonometry. It has so many common points with the western ones that it makes think more than reasonably, that there had to be a common source: could it be a lost civilization, maybe the same one which has been chased by thousands years so far?

Dragonfire
02-10-2012, 02:22 AM
More on the "Anomoly"


No signs from Russian scientists?
The team from Russia’s Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (AARI) have been drilling for weeks in an effort to reach isolated Lake Vostok. There has been no contact with the explorers for seven days (last contact was on Jan. 30, 2012) and they have now under 48 hours to make an escape from the icy depths before temperatures fall to deadly levels. After seven days of radio silence their colleagues scientists from US and Great Britain started to worry. No one knows what is happening. Antarctic scientists carry Iridium satellite phones for communication but there are spots without coverage. The scientists may have encountered a technical issue or perhaps they have simply packed up and are traveling home – keeping their discoveries to themselves. Scientists from around the globe are unsure of the fate of the mission. Cold weather is already set to plunge, as Antarctica’s summer season ends and winter sets in. The scientists are currently battling conditions of up to minus 66C at Lake Vostok as they raced to drill into a lake buried two miles beneath the ice before the weather closed in. The end frame date was set to Feb 6. The team was only 12 meters from reaching the lake water surface few days before contact was lost.

Read: “Where on earth are they? Russian scientists searching for underground ‘alien’ lake still missing on SEVENTH day as Tuesday ’date of no return’ looms“, article by DailyMail.

Meanwhile in Antarctica…

The United States and the Russian Federation sent a joint team to inspect foreign stations, installations and equipment in Antarctica from January 23 to January 28, 2012. The inspection conducted pursuant to the Antarctic Treaty of 1959 and its Environmental Protocol.

More at: http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/02/05/lake-vostok-subglacial-drill-base/

Doc
02-17-2012, 02:52 AM
Thule Foundation emailed this to the Hot 100 short list on February 15, 2012:

Thule is a regular combatant on Victor's Bi-Weekly Pschodrama email threads and Rarely put out anything of his own. Stay tune for more to come.



"not closing out any possibilities, am very psychic and very strong psychically.
have plenty of food and our own spring for water, a small community that has some semblance of togetherness.
beyond that, this Earth was formed and changes according to CATACLYSM not gradualism.
we know that as well.
its thinking that the cataclysm will happen in your life that the scenario becomes wishful thinking.
there's no doubt that antarctic is atlantis, only recently covered with ice when the crust of Earth moved around before.
just been preaching cataclysm for 40 years, you should continue your wishful thinking, maybe it will occur.
we just had a 5.6 above frisco and a 4.8 right below the border, so lets have the big one in the middle,
it all goes along with the elites wish to depopulate the Earth."
http://www.thule.org/crustaluplift/
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqscanv/

<snip>

http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/2011/02/whats-under-lake-vostok/


What’s Under Lake Vostok?

http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/vostok_diagram.jpg (http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/2011/02/whats-under-lake-vostok/vostok_diagram/)

Drill Close to Reaching 14-Million-Year-Old Antarctic Lake

"By Duncan Geere, Wired UK, Jan 7, 2011

Lake Vostok, which has been sealed off from the world for 14 million years, is about to be penetrated (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19918-mysteries-of-lake-vostok-on-brink-of-discovery.html) by a Russian drill bit."

(Note) This has been in the news a lot the last week or so. Reference is made to past mysteries of Anarctica, whcih are not as widely known as some other iconic stories, still make the Stories That Never Die list.

Doc
02-17-2012, 03:09 AM
Jack Sarfatti fires some snark:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072431/quotes?qt=qt0484650


These are from the transcripts of the Cuckoo's Nest Day Room.

http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f9876899%5fABJXiGIAASYzTzv4zQbxlmk JLgU&pid=2.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=YahooMailNeo

Doc
02-17-2012, 03:12 AM
Uri Geller(when this short list does psychodrama, it doesn't fool around!) chimes in from his Blackberry:



"Please URI by Andrija Puharich its available to read free on my website.
Much energy UriPlease visit my website at www.urigeller.com (http://www.urigeller.com/)
I wish you plenty of good health, happiness and peace of mind. Be positive, optimistic and believe in yourself. Follow me on Twitter: gelleruri
Much energy and love
Uri"

Doc
02-17-2012, 03:16 AM
Thule Foundation responds to John Edmonds to close out this chapter:


"John Edmonds wrote:
> My friend Peter Gersten alluded to all this about 15 years ago! He even wrote a series of "fictional" stories on his web site: CAUS. I have been waiting quite a long time for this story to finally reveal itself.
> Great article! Fascinating! I love to see things that move us closer to disclosure.
>
> JOHN EDMONDS
> > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:54:03 -0800"

Thule Foundation:

"the main disclosure will be a REALIZATION.that cataclysm, planets in collision, electric Sun, hard rock comets with plasma ejecta tails, antarctic with and without ice, the andes rose from sea level with human civilization riding up with them, previous civilization half a million years ago, etc"
http://www.thule.org/titicaca.html
http://www.thule.org/tiahuanaco.html

Doc
02-17-2012, 06:08 AM
Bog Collins offers:

"Sorry, this is Doom and Gloom nonsense like predictions about 2012. Common sense is a much better recipe. Watch out for New Age predictions like with Barbara below. Ever see the Pleiades through a telescope in the night sky? They are Blue Giants which burn super hot and therefore exhaust their hydrogen fuel within 100 million years, not long enough to have planets with highly evolved intelligent life like Earth with its Sun at ~ 5 billion years.
>
> Irrational thinking serves no one and only confuses the issue like the Zeta Talk nonsense...As for Lake Vostok lets wait for further data, not some New Age article with an agenda....Rmc
>
> Meanwhile: *Barbara Marciniak and her Pleiadians* wrote about a very ancient and evolved civilization whose remains are buried under the polar ice cap in the Antarctic. [See page 4 of her book entitled EARTH. THE PLEIADIAN KEYS TO THE LIVING UNIVERSE. This civilization existed more than 500,000 years ago."


Thule Foundation responds:

"there's plenty of circumstantial evidence showing presence of a previous civilization.
they left no bodies because like eastern humans they cremated themselves.
they left no tools when they returned to the sky.
they left marks and cuts on granite in the quarry, made by a cutting wheel 32 feet in diameter.
take some lsd rmc and you will think a lot of things possible that you poo poo now.
dont worry, after your experience you will return to being stodgy like you are now."
http://www.thule.org/titicaca.html
http://www.thule.org/tiahuanaco.html

newyorklily
02-17-2012, 07:27 AM
Has anyone heard from the scientists down there or are they still missing?

Sent from my VM670 using Tapatalk

Doc
02-17-2012, 10:14 AM
420

Missing scientists mystery deepens in frozen Antarctica


Written By Jeremy A. Kaplan (http://www.foxnews.com/archive/author/jeremy-a-kaplan/index.html)
Published February 03, 2012
FoxNews.com



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/03/missing-scientists-mystery-deepens-in-frozen-antarctica/#ixzz1md2wf62j




"The world holds its breath, hoping for the best after six days of radio silence from Antarctica -- where a team of Russian scientists is racing the clock and the oncoming winter to dig to an alien lake far beneath the ice.

The team from Russia's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (http://www.aari.ru/index_en.html) (AARI) have been drilling for weeks in an effort to reach isolated Lake Vostok (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/03/missing-scientists-mystery-deepens-in-frozen-antarctica/#), a vast, dark body of water hidden 13,000 ft. below the surface of the icy continent. Lake Vostok hasn't been exposed to air in more than 20 million years."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/03/missing-scientists-mystery-deepens-in-frozen-antarctica/#ixzz1md3KyUtC


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/03/missing-scientists-mystery-deepens-in-frozen-antarctica/#ixzz1md38L1dd

(http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/03/missing-scientists-mystery-deepens-in-frozen-antarctica/#ixzz1md38L1dd)

Doc
02-17-2012, 10:21 AM
Scientists Seeking Lake Vostok Not Lost, Discover Ancient Antarctic Lake


"A group of Russian scientists in Antarctica has succeeded in drilling to a lake (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/06/russian-scientists-reach-buried-antarctic-lake-vostok/?test=latestnews) buried two miles beneath the icy landmass, the state-run Russian news service Ria Novosti reported — following a week of radio silence from the team that had some scratching their heads.

“Yesterday, our scientists stopped drilling at the depth of 3,768 meters and reached the surface of the sub-glacial lake,” the source reportedly said in a story posted Monday, Feb. 6.
“If they were successful, their efforts will transform the way we do science in Antarctica and provide us with an entirely new view of what exists under the vast Antarctic ice sheet,” John Priscu, a microbiologist with Montana State University, told FoxNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/06/russian-scientists-reach-buried-antarctic-lake-vostok/?test=latestnews).


http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Vostok-300x200.jpg
There have been much-disputed hints that life might still exist down there. If so, that would give a great boost to hopes of finding life in similar conditions in icy water on one of the moons of Jupiter."

Read More:

http://www.datelinezero.com/2012/02/11/scientists-seeking-lake-vostok-not-lost-discover-ancient-antarctic-lake/

Doc
02-18-2012, 05:24 AM
On the Hot 100 Short List, the battle of words continues to rage. Some Highlights:

Elaine Douglass adds a note of caution:

"Oh, it’s certainly possible ETs were here in the past, but I’m not going to accept it as a fact until human science reaches that conclusion—which would be possible only in a post-disclosure environment.


Every abductee I know has been told by the aliens that they were here in the past, not only here but that they, the ETs, created the human race. And not only created the human race, but that many of the heros of human culture, such as Jesus Chris t, were really aliens. And from there it flows ever-so-nicely to the conclusion that they have returned to “tend their garden,” and we are their “property,” and they’re re-engineering us cause we didn’t work out well, etc., etc.

No, I’m not going there unless human scientists tell me they have evidence of alien tampering in human biological history.

Elaine Douglass"



Michael Horn, Billy Meier's U.S. Representative, thinks the whole thing is silly and opts out with his accustomed charm:

"Please REMOVE me from this imbecilic thread. This person babbles about not accepting that ETs were here in the past "until human science reaches that conclusion - and then goes on to talk about "every abductee" she knows!

Since "human science" has not "reached the conclusion" that there actually are "alien abductions", it's obvious that this whole disinformation campaign has so affected the soft brains of the gullible "true believers" that they are completely oblivious to the truly real and important circumstances of life in our world.


Simpletons and dopes who have made an industry out of UFOs and "aliens" and are dumb and blind to the truth.


MH"

Doc
02-18-2012, 05:28 AM
Steve Hammons recalls an earlier mention that he considers to support the ancient alien theory:

"And then there was the account, provided via Victor Martinez from alleged DIA-6 sources in 2008, that an alien craft was recovered that dated back to 150 million years ago.

According to the report:


“The object was believed to be an alien spacecraft that had crashed approximately 200 million years ago according to the archaeological team. The site subsequently was examined by a USAF recovery team, which then put the age of the alien craft at approximately 150 million years ago.”
“The alien craft itself was 45 feet in diameter,” the sources continued. “The craft was transported to the State of [redacted] and then to the giant [redacted] lab complex in [redacted] and opened.”

“The alien craft contained two highly decomposed alien bodies and decayed animals, which were apparently abducted by these alien beings. The animals were small dinosaurs on board the alien craft.”




For more information, see:


Ancient crashed UFO claimed to be from dinosaur age, 150 million years ago


Joint Recon Study Group
June 30, 2008"



http://jointreconstudygroup.blogspot.com/2008/06/ancient-crashed-ufo-claimed-to-be-from.html






Steve Hammons


Joint Recon Study Group
http://jointreconstudygroup.blogspot.com/

Transcendent TV & Media
http://tvtranscend.blogspot.com/

Doc
02-18-2012, 05:34 AM
Robert Morningstar tries to get everyone back on topic and offers a poem?

May I take a moment to redirect this thread back to the subject/subtopic of Lake Vostok and the Rusky breakthrough into the lake?

My prediction in an "Ogden Nashtic" poem

"Ode To the Russians-> Ringing in 'The Thing' "

When the Vostok pond scum comes to the top,
and they slip in through the slime, and the slop

They'll see algae blooms...amoebae booms

Then the Ruskies will find in heaps, loads

of blind,

white ...

microscopic ...

nematodes.

Any second opinions...
among this email minion?

M*...is...for "Monster"

And he adds a final flourish referring to a side argument between Capt Collins and Elaine Douglass:

But what if we don't like "plain English"...??

http://us.f659.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1_9932060_ABJXiGIAAQEwTz8iPQW4JAOOz%2 bY&pid=2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=YahooMailNeoCL

"The Other Robert"

newyorklily
02-26-2012, 05:37 AM
On a side note: Brazil lost their station, all of their research and 2 lives today when their Antartic base went up in flames.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17168526


The Brazilian navy says it has recovered the bodies of two of its members from the debris of a Brazilian research station in the Antarctic.
The Comandante Ferraz base near the tip of the Antarctic Peninsula was destroyed by an explosion on Saturday.
Officials said the blast was caused by a fire which raged through the base, where marine research work is carried out.
A third member of the navy injured in the fire is in a stable condition.

I wonder if they had discovered anything special.

norenrad
02-26-2012, 07:08 AM
Like I said earlier, I do not trust that what they find will be harmless to our modern environment.

Doc
02-26-2012, 07:04 PM
More about the fire at the Brazil Antarctic Base:



http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/fire-kills-two-at-brazil-antarctica-base-28428508.html

newyorklily
02-26-2012, 07:58 PM
Thanks for that, Doc. It will be interesting to find out what caused it (if the Brazilian government releases that information). With a fire as devestating as that one, I tend to wonder if sabotage was involved, especially when there are so many discoveries being made in Antartica.