Eisenhower meeting confirmed?

[Garuda]

In the news today are reports that President Eisenhower had three meetings with extraterrestrials.

"President Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, former Pentagon consultant claims":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100947/Eisenhower-secret-meetings-aliens-pentagon-consultant-claims.html

"Eisenhower And The Aliens: Former US President 'Had Three Secret Meetings With Extra Terrestrials' ":
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/14/eisenhower-and-the-aliens-former-us-president-had-three-secret-meetings-with-extra-terrestrials_n_1275692.html?ref=uk

[Chris]

In the news today are reports that President Eisenhower had three meetings with extraterrestrials.

"President Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, former Pentagon consultant claims":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100947/Eisenhower-secret-meetings-aliens-pentagon-consultant-claims.html

"Eisenhower And The Aliens: Former US President 'Had Three Secret Meetings With Extra Terrestrials' ":
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/14/eisenhower-and-the-aliens-former-us-president-had-three-secret-meetings-with-extra-terrestrials_n_1275692.html?ref=uk

I wish Timothy Good had indicated just who gave him the information on the Ike meetings.

Do you know if there is a recording of the interview?

[Garuda]

I think this is the URL, but unfortunately, it is only available for UK residents:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017z278/Frank_Skinners_Opinionated_Series_3_Episode_4/

[Doc]

President Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, former Pentagon consultant claims



Ex-President met with extra-terrestrials on three separate occasions at New Mexico air base

Eisenhower and FBI officials organised the meetings by sending out 'telepathic messages'


By Anthony Bond (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Anthony+Bond+)

Former American President Dwight D. Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, a former US government consultant has claimed.
The 34th President of the United States met the extra terrestrials at a remote air base in New Mexico in 1954, according to lecturer and author Timothy Good.
Eisenhower and other FBI officials are said to have organised the showdown with the space creatures by sending out 'telepathic messages'.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/14/article-0-0000104500000C1D-667_468x533.jpg Bizarre: Former American President Dwight D. Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, a former US government consultant has claimed



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100947/Eisenhower-secret-meetings-aliens-pentagon-consultant-claims.html#ixzz1mQU1pbM5

[Chris]

I think this is the URL, but unfortunately, it is only available for UK residents:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017z278/Frank_Skinners_Opinionated_Series_3_Episode_4/

Lee - can you get this for us?

[Longeyes]

Hi Guys
I just watched it. It's not so much an interview as he is a member of the audience (obviously invited) and only talks for a few minutes most of it is in the Daily Mail article.
Doesn't mention who tells him and pretty sure he doesn't mention in his book either.

What did turn up today is this which i've never come across before with a least supports the story.

There is a link to video in which

'REP. HENRY MCELROY JR. DELIVER HIS TAPED STATEMENT ABOUT EISENHOWER AND ALIENS'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/14/eisenhower-met-aliens-says-timothy-good_n_1277133.html

[Longeyes]

Someone could always ask him

http://www.timothygood.co.uk/enquiries.htm

He would be an awesome guest here.

[murmur]

What if the source is Doty?

Does that make the story more or less credible?

[A99]

Another Viewpoint

We have to ask ourselves, why is that former State Rep. READING over his statement where we also have to wonder if it was written by somebody else for him to read to the public. If this is the case then we have to wonder, who wrote that statement? Some covert agency affiliated with the military/gov’t conglomerate? And why would they write such a thing for a ‘credible’ individual to read to the public? Could it be that the agency is engaging in disinformation tactics to disseminate information to the world that the US has advanced alien technology … technology that no one else in the world has which ultimately would be a warning to our enemies to consider that next time they want to attack us?


So we also have to ask ourselves, “How many of those notable and well-publicized UFO events in the past, like Roswell, for example, were actually orchestrated by that ‘agency’ to make it seem like we are being visited by extraterrestrials where we even, as the rumor goes, retained an alien or two and back-engineered their craft all for the express purpose to give the message to the world that we know more and even have advanced tech. as a result of such events.


So for that agency, by setting things up to make everything look like we are being ‘visited’ by ETs with advanced tech including UFOs, they are using all of this as a control mechanism on a world wide scale.


But what it really is … is a disinformation campaign. So in this sense, the gov’t will never allow disclosure because such information about their agenda would be revealed. That all they are doing is myth-making.


They don’t want the world to know that the UFO and ET phenomenon’s are really consistent with Vallee’s Interdimensional Hypothesis. Physical psychisms are a reality. But, their native state is not physical. That we are not dealing with ETs at all… but intelligences from other realms instead i.e. the realms of Magonia.

That agency or agencies also have their people in UFO forums to promote the “Nuts and Bolts” viewpoint whereby convincing everybody to jump on the bandwagon for that POV … not to mention that there’s safety in numbers hence another reason why people are more apt to go with the popular POV as opposed to the ones that are being targeted and debunked all the time. That they can recruit people like Friedman and other ‘credible’ people like him to perpetuate that POV is just one of those agencies many tactics. At any rate, most people in the UFO community WANT to Believe that we are being visited by ETs hence another reason why that POV is the more popular one than any of the others.


Lol, is it any wonder why the mil/industrial/aeronautics complex has ‘purchased’ Mufon.

Talk about gov't conspiracies, this one takes the cake!

One other thing to ponder over.... isn't it interesting that all of those "ETs" out there are shape-shifters too?

[A99]

Is Project Blue beam the Grand Deception?
​http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/Is-Project-Bluebeam-the-Grand-Deception


The ultimate conspiracy - a faked alien invasion


I first came across the idea of Project Bluebeam in a book in 1995 by Norio Hayakawa entitled UFOs,The Grand Deception and the Coming New World Order.Since then I have befriended Norio at Myspace and just recently I found myself discussing Project Bluebeam (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/Who-is-Benjamin-Fulford-and-can-he-save-the-world) in one of my hubs here. So I thought I would explain what it is all about.
Basically, Project Bluebeam is designed to usher in the New World Order with a one world government (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/The-economic-crisis-is-a-way-of-bringing-in-one-world-government), a one world army, a one world religion, a cashless society and micro-chipped populations controlled by a central computer.The elite (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/The-Illuminati--wildlife-conservation-and-culling-the-population) of the world would not be subject to this fascist control system but would run it and enjoy its spoils.
In order to accomplish this, and like with other massive operations to instil public fear such as the so-called war on terror (http://hubpages.com/topics/politics-and-social-issues/united-states-politics/us-war-on-terrorism/4990) and the weapons of mass destruction, as well as 9/11, something must be created to terrify the people and the media is then used as the perfect tool to brodcast the official version to them. This is using the "Problem-Reaction-Solution" formula, as David Icke would call it. Create the fakealien invasion (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/Alien-contactee-and-abductee-Miriam-Delicado-and-the-Great-Gathering), wait for the public to be scared and then offer the answer - a one world government and army.
In the case of Project Bluebeam there are more than one theorised plan that may be put into operation. One of these is to stage an elaborate worldwide faked alien (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/UFOs-and-alien-races---a-personal-viewpoint)invasion with UFOs that will be seen in the sky. These will either be made on this planet secret technology (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/David-Icke-said-the-Queen-is-a-reptilian-in-The-Biggest-Secret)-driven craft operated by the black budget and military and/or advanced holographic imagery.
When the media has announced in mainstream news that the planet is being attacked by hostile aliens the solution will be martial law declared and the introduction of a one world government and army to fight this threat to humanity. The idea was actually once voiced by the late President Reagan when he spoke about a cause needed to unite the world and suggested that that threat might come from outer space.Did Reagan know all about Bluebeam?
HAARP

Another part of Project Bluebeam is to again use holographic and HAARP technologies to create religious prophecied scenarios taking place. Biblical "signs and wonders" will be made artificially, and also the religious deities Jesus, Mohammed, Krishna and Buddha to be created as images that people will be able to perceive as real.The purpose of this would be to establish the one world religion that the Illuminati are seeking to cause.
I quote from the website http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam: "With computer animation and sounds appearing to emanate from the very depths of space, astonished ardent followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messiahs in convincing lifelike reality.
Then the projections of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna, etc., will merge into one after correct explanations of the mysteries and revelations will have been disclosed. This one god will, in fact, be the Antichrist, who will explain that the various scriptures have been misunderstood and misinterpreted, and that the religions of old are responsible for turning brother against brother, and nation against nation, therefore old religions must be abolished to make way for the new age new world religion, representing the one god Antichrist they see before them."
Jordan Maxwell, David Icke and other leading conspiracy theorists are well aware of Project Bluebeam and Maxwell points out that the Orson Welles War of the Worlds scenario was like a trial run for this.The public are easy to panic!
Many ufologists also know about Project Bluebeam and for them the current and ongoing media coverage of UFOs as a reality, coupled with the change in reporting that is taking place, is viewed as one of two possibilities.
It may be done as a genuine start at getting truth out to the public, but there is also the possibility it is being done to get the public primed for Project Bluebeam. In other words they are being told that yes, craft from other worlds are coming here, and along with it the alien abduction scenarios, cattle mutilation and movies like Independence Day all have given people something to fear! Many believe that the abductions and mutilations are not done by aliens but are carried out by humans.
Meanwhile Dr Steven Greer (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/Good-and-evil-are-human-concepts) and members of the Disclosure Project have been campaigning hard for a release of information on extraterrestrial beings and their craft, whilst making a point of stating that the aliens are not to be feared and actually wish to help us.
So this means that we need to know whether what we may be seeing is real or staged? Friendly or hostile?
And right now at time of writing, videos are doing the rounds on YouTube of a message by Blossom Goodchild in which she has predicted that UFOs will be experienced on the 14th October 2009. Believers in Project Bluebeam think that if it happens it may be part of this operation, others believe it will happen and the UFOs will be the craft of friendly Pleiadeans. What do you think?
NEWS UPDATE:
A bizarre spiralling light was seen over Norway on 9 December 2009 that created a visual black hole before vanishing. A bluish beam was seen to go up to the spiral as well and whatever it was it was witnessed by millions of people.
This phenomenon made international mainstream news but was dismissed by the media as a Russian rocket that had lost control and failed.
Problem with this explanation is it was far too clearly defined to have been the trails left by a rocket failure and the Russians never admitted that it was their's as the news had stated. In fact it looked as if it was a graphic image such as might be generated digitally. It is my belief and that of others including Jessica Schab (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/Jessica-Mystic-and-her-message-for-humanity), that it was holographic in nature.
I have added a video by Brad Johnson (http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/Strange-dreams-and-dream-analysis) talking about why it was NOT what the media said it was. Brad got included in a news clip broadcast by CBS but their edited version of what was going on is very different from what he has to say about it as you can hear in the video.

[Garuda]

Also on video now:

http://www.5min.com/Video/President-Eisenhower-Secretly-Met-with-Aliens-517272709

[Garuda]

Comments by Montalk (in a private discussion, quoted with permission):


In the 40s and 50s, USA contactees trended toward Nordic/Venusians (Adamski, Angelucci, even Jordan Maxwell). On Jan 17, 1961 Eisenhower gave his farewell warning about the MIC; things had clearly deteriorated by then to worry him so. The MIC burgeoned after WWII with the transfer of Nazi intelligentsia to the USA. Then the Betty and Barney Hill case in September 19–20, 1961, involving Gray-like beings and a Nazi officer in uniform. 1960 to 2010 was dominated by Gray/Reptilian abductions and, starting in the mid 70s, cultural acclimation via the media. So to me it seems various alien factions solicited US authorities through the early 50s, and by 1961 the Gray/Reptilian factions had secured a deal while the Nordic (and other benign) factions lost out, and therefore lost jurisdiction over U.S. territories. Hence them still being active outside the USA today, but Gray activity dominating here. Not to mention, cases of Grays/Reptilians working alongside military in human underground bases.

I also heard that by the late 60s, the govt/military realized it had been 'had,' that they were already infiltrated and controlled by the forces they bargained with. And since there was nothing they could do, "if you can't beat em, join 'em." Hence their subsequent collusion with these forces. By that I mean joint abduction and mind control projects, seeding of disinformation, and engineering of media/entertainment to prep the public for overt alien takeover. Maybe they figured, either go along and survive as slaves, or try to resist and get annihilated.

It's also possible aliens contacted only nations with nuclear capabilities, or at least an advanced black ops program. Before 1965: UK, US, France, Russia, Canada.

[Garuda]

Comments by Clifford Stone (in a private discussion, quoted with permission):


The bases were White Sands and Holloman AFB, both located here in New Mexico. It became necessary to meet with several of the world's heads of state in order to avoid us from accidentally destroying ourselves (i.e. on several occasions we came close to launching missiles, as did the former Soviet States, indicating a strike against one another, as a result of large numbers of radar tracking's). Also, it was made clear that them being here was not for hostile intent but peaceable research (note: no UFO reported and investigated by the U.S. Air Force has never shown any indication of a threat to the U.S. or her allies). I do not believe they gave us or anyone else any really advanced technology. After all, who in their right mind would give young children loaded guns and tell them to go outside, play and have fun? However, when that technology came into our possession, we made every effort to back-engineer it, as did other nations, meeting with many, many failures. I have a lot more to say about this but maybe a later day.
God Bless,
Cliff

[Lee]

There is nothing new in this article as far as I can see, but I've alway found this story to be fascinating even if it has been covered extensively in Timothy Good's books and elsewhere. One of the most intriguing facets comes in the form of a letter, written by Gerald Light and addressed to Mr Meade Layne, in which he claims to have attended one of the meetings!

If true the following is a profound and historic document:

http://i44.tinypic.com/14mghg6.jpg

You've got to wonder, what would the world be like today had President Eisenhower gone ahead and made that statement in May of 1954...?

Grant Cameron also has a good collection of Eisenhower related UFO articles on his website : http://www.presidentialufo.com/dwight-d-eisenhower

[Lee]

What if the source is Doty?

Does that make the story more or less credible?
While it is true that William Moore was probably one of the earliest researchers to write about Eisenhower's alleged contacts, he makes it very clear that his info came from multiple sources within the US intelligence community, and not just Rick Doty.

This particular story appears to originate from Bill Moore's own research into the Gerald light letter and Eisenhower's questionalble trip to the dentist, and not from US intel officials.

Here is the article by Moore: http://www.presidentialufo.com/dwight-d-eisenhower/50-president-eisenhower-meets-the-aliens

[newyorklily]

While it is true that William Moore was probably one of the earliest researchers to write about Eisenhower's alleged contacts, he makes it very clear that his info came from multiple sources within the US intelligence community, and not just Rick Doty.

This particular story appears to originate from Bill Moore's own research into the Gerald light letter and Eisenhower's questionalble trip to the dentist, and not from US intel officials.

Here is the article by Moore: http://www.presidentialufo.com/dwight-d-eisenhower/50-president-eisenhower-meets-the-aliens

Grant Cameron is going to be on UFO Undercover tonight (I posted the details here http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?431-Grant-Cameron-to-be-interviewed-on-UFO-Undercover-tonight&p=6959#post6959). Maybe we will get the chance to ask him some questions about the Eisenhower meeting.

[Luminari]

If true the following is a profound and historic document:



Thanks for that Lee- interesting document.

[murmur]

Eisenhower and the Aliens (http://www.thedailybell.com/3620/Eisenhower-and-the-Aliens)
Thursday, February 16, 2012 – by Staff Report
http://www.thedailybell.com/images/library/alien150.jpg
President Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, former Pentagon consultant claims. Ex-President met with extra-terrestrials on three separate occasions at New Mexico air base ... Eisenhower and other FBI officials are said to have organised the showdown with the space creatures by sending out 'telepathic messages' – UK Daily Mail

Dominant Social Theme: Wow, this Eisenhower was something else – a Supreme Allied Commander with a telepathic bent.

Free-Market Analysis: We have long pointed out that one of the elite's dominant social themes is the idea that aliens are involved with Earth, as an Internet search on "Daily Bell" and "alien invasion" shows.

This fear-based promotion is helpful to the Anglosphere power elite because it often breeds among people a kind of paranoia, which in turn gives the powers-that-be a more sympathetic environment for more expansive government and charismatic "leaders."
The "aliens among us" meme also provides the elites with a great way of devaluing and controlling the alternative Internet media. By planting dubious "alien" stories within controlled media environments that appear to be alternative media sites (but are not) the powers-that-be can devalue serious exposes.
Read More (http://www.thedailybell.com/3620/Eisenhower-and-the-Aliens) http://www.thedailybell.com/images/greenRightArrow.gif


http://www.thedailybell.com/3620/Eisenhower-and-the-Aliens

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Interesting read....not sure I agree with the conclusions.....but it's worth considering

[Longeyes]

I emailed Mr Good and he said that 'I've written about the 1954 events (Edwards AFB) in Alien Liaison and Need to Know. You'll see the sources in there. I'll be including the 1955 Holloman AFB, New Mexico, event in a complete chapter in my next book, which I hope will be published later this year.'

He was none to pleased with the shoddy journalism in the Daily Express article and sent me a email he had sent them to clarify their 'facts'. I not sure people like that actually understand what a fact is anyway here it is with his permission...




Dear Sir:

Re the piece in today's Express - "President met aliens in secret three times" - please note the following:

(1) I have never worked for the Pentagon, though I was invited there once to discuss the subject with General Kenneth Israel, Director of the Defense Airborne Reconnaissance Office, and a number of junior officers from various branches of the military.

(2) I am not a U.S. Government consultant, though I have officially assisted several U.S. Congressional investigations into the subject.

(3) I never came up with the daft statement that "FBI officials made contact through 'telepathic messages'."

(4) Re "aliens at the first meeting were 'Nordic' in appearance, but a deal was signed with a race called 'Alien Greys'", somebody has fabricated the entire sentence.

(5) The only factual error I made on Frank Skinner's programme was my inadvertent comment that Ike had three encounters in 1954. I meant to say that there were two meetings in 1954 (both at Edwards Air Force Base, California) and one in 1955 (as far as I'm aware) at Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico.

Sincerely,

Timothy Good (NUJ)

[Garuda]

I emailed Mr Good and he said that 'I've written about the 1954 events (Edwards AFB) in Alien Liaison and Need to Know. You'll see the sources in there. I'll be including the 1955 Holloman AFB, New Mexico, event in a complete chapter in my next book, which I hope will be published later this year.'

He was none to pleased with the shoddy journalism in the Daily Express article and sent me a email he had sent them to clarify their 'facts'. I not sure people like that actually understand what a fact is anyway here it is with his permission...




Dear Sir:

Re the piece in today's Express - "President met aliens in secret three times" - please note the following:

(1) I have never worked for the Pentagon, though I was invited there once to discuss the subject with General Kenneth Israel, Director of the Defense Airborne Reconnaissance Office, and a number of junior officers from various branches of the military.

(2) I am not a U.S. Government consultant, though I have officially assisted several U.S. Congressional investigations into the subject.

(3) I never came up with the daft statement that "FBI officials made contact through 'telepathic messages'."

(4) Re "aliens at the first meeting were 'Nordic' in appearance, but a deal was signed with a race called 'Alien Greys'", somebody has fabricated the entire sentence.

(5) The only factual error I made on Frank Skinner's programme was my inadvertent comment that Ike had three encounters in 1954. I meant to say that there were two meetings in 1954 (both at Edwards Air Force Base, California) and one in 1955 (as far as I'm aware) at Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico.

Sincerely,

Timothy Good (NUJ)

Great Longeyes!

Thanks

[Longeyes]

This is the part of 'Need to Know' where Timothy Good refers to the Eisenhower incident

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Tqu7764c2cQC&pg=PA121&dq=alien+liaison&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jU0-T8ffEqes0QXih92rDw&ved=0CFkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=alien%20liaison&f=false
Page 208

The source for the story is Lord Clancarty ( Brinsley Le Poer Trench) who spoke to an USAF test pilot who claimed to be present at one of the meetings.
More in the book

[Garuda]

This is the part of 'Need to Know' where Timothy Good refers to the Eisenhower incident

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Tqu7764c2cQC&pg=PA121&dq=alien+liaison&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jU0-T8ffEqes0QXih92rDw&ved=0CFkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=alien%20liaison&f=false
Page 208

The source for the story is Lord Clancarty ( Brinsley Le Poer Trench) who spoke to an USAF test pilot who claimed to be present at one of the meetings.
More in the book

At the risk of repeating myself (which I'll gladly do on this occasion): Great, thanks Longeyes!

[Doc]

Longeyes, that is some brilliant work!

[Gemeos]

Thank you Longeyes! Good finding!