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Lee
07-03-2012, 06:55 PM
According to Grant Cameron (www.presidentialufo.com (http://www.presidentialufo.com)) The infamous 'Falcon' from Bill Moore's Aviary has finally been named as former CIA Spymaster Harry Rositke.

http://i50.tinypic.com/153wap4.jpg

Greg Bishop (www.excludedmiddle.com (http://www.excludedmiddle.com)) revealed the name, which was passed to him by Bill Moore many years ago, at The Alternative Universe online conference this weekend, Saturday 30th June.

Grant Cameron is currently working on an article which will "explain much of the mystery" and describe how he believes this information "changes ufology", in the next day or two.

Mr Rositke passed away in 2002, his obituary has been archived online by The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/08/us/harry-rositzke-91-linguist-and-american-spymaster.html

More to come...

atmjjc
07-03-2012, 07:45 PM
Dead men tell no tales!

Lee
07-03-2012, 09:50 PM
From Robert Collins: (I asked if anybody on the email list had any thoughts on the topic.)

"None, but he appears to be a real nice guy. The big problem we had even within the Aviary is people keeping secrets from each other.

Bill Moore and Jaimie Shandera were notorious for that, but in the same breath they expected everyone else to tell all.

Bill would complain to me that Jaimie wasn't telling him anything, and Jaimie would say the same about Bill.

Years ago when I started trying to get some of the facts out I was told I shouldn't do that!! Jaimie and Bill wanted to know "what I was doing!" Here it is 2012 and where did any of the Disclosure talk go? No where from what I can see.

There were many others just as guilty as Bill and Jaimie when it came to secrets, won't name them, but they became part of the problem just like the government was/is.

Then there are those where the facts don't matter, they know who they are too. It's all show business and entertainment. Things go no where.

Reality? Well, what's that? The entire house here is bathed in a steady stream of 3 to 4 milligauss up to 5 milligauss EMF from 10am to 12:30 am everyday. I can go outside right now and shoot in an area around the sun and more than likely pick up UFOs. The UFOs seems to show up in the 3rd shot of a series, all trying to play hide and seek I guess. It's Timing...Rmc"

Doc
07-05-2012, 03:56 AM
Victor put it all together today and published an email from Bob Collins and attachments to his Short List of UFOlogists and Interested Others:

A BOMBSHELL revelation and long hidden mystery finally comes to light!
See attached! –


Happy Fourth! :-)

1) According to Grant Cameron (www.presidentialufo.com (http://www.presidentialufo.com)) The infamous 'Falcon' from Bill Moore's Aviary has finally been named as former CIA Spymaster Harry Rositkte.

http://us.f1249.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=2%5f0%5f0%5f1%5f11577238%5fAK0fimIAAG 0bT%2fT6gwbNdQeRtY4&pid=2.1.2.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=YahooMailNeoCL

Greg Bishop (www.excludedmiddle.com (http://www.excludedmiddle.com)) revealed the name, which was passed to him by Bill Moore many years ago, at The Alternative Universe online conference this weekend, Saturday 30th June.

Grant Cameron is currently working on an article which will "explain much of the mystery" and describe how he believes this information "changes ufology", in the next day or two.

Mr Rositzke passed away in 2002, his obituary has been archived online by The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/08/us...spymaster.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/08/us/harry-rositzke-91-linguist-and-american-spymaster.html)

http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?742-The-Falcon-revealed&p=11484&viewfull=1#post11484

2) Hillenkoetter was CIA Director in 1949 and of MJ-12 fame, the same year Harry Rositkte came to work at the CIA, 1949-1970.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/directors-and-deputy-directors-of-central-intelligence/hillen.html

Hillenkoetter's name has appeared in numerous MJ-12 documents and he wrote the Eisenhower Briefing Document (EBD) according to Wescott, a Linguistics experts at Drew University in April 1988, see attached letter.

So, it seem that Harry Rositkte was in the right place at the right time to be brought into the CIA's fold of their greatest secrets.

3) UFO hiding in the sun: taken, July 04, 2012: 1:28pm over the top of this house. Shot 17 enlarged and cropped: Shots 16 & 18 showed nothing..see attached

Regards
RM Collins




http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=2_0_0_1_11577238_AK0fimIAAG0bT%2FT6gw bNdQeRtY4&pid=2.2&fid=Inbox&inline=1http://us.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=2_0_0_1_11577238_AK0fimIAAG0bT%2FT6gw bNdQeRtY4&pid=2.3&fid=Inbox&inline=1

Flying Tiger Comics
07-05-2012, 11:45 AM
To me it's always been strange that Townsend Brown - the man who built miniature UFOs attached to cables and was in on the technology from the 1930s - went on to found NICAP and was then summarily displaced. He seems to be largely overlooked in favour of MJ-12 roundabouts and runarounds but he is a source of UFO type patents and technology and he was there at ground zero as it were...

murmur
07-06-2012, 05:21 AM
I always thought this was kind of interesting.

http://stargate007.blogspot.com/2009/03/secret-revealed-ufo-cover-up-live-1988.html

Doc
07-06-2012, 06:20 AM
This just in via email from Victor's List:

http://www.serpo.org/

-- SPECIAL "Project SERPO" FLASH UPDATE and ADVISORY! --

From: ANONYMOUS

To: Victor Martinez

Subject: CIA Spymaster HARRY
ROSITKTE Named as "FALCON" =
MISinformation!

VICTOR:

EVERYone has it WRONG ... "FALCON" was my good friend and intelligence
colleague RICHARD HELMS!

Only two (2) people on your massive list know this information. While I
am still working on a new release for you, I had to break from it to
correct this blatant MISinformation.

Before Richard's [Helms] passing, we met on several occasions primarily
because our highly classified work caused us to cross paths; however, we
also met socially on a few occasions.

Richard [Helms] was an adviser to the MJ-12 group and in fact was not
only a contributing editor to the "Red Book," [presented to the U.S.
President every five (5) years on alien activities], but was the final
editor --- Editor-in-Chief if you will -- for the one presented in the
late 1960s.

Richard also spoke of knowing of an "exchange program" ["Projects SERPO"
and "CRYSTAL KNIGHT"], but did NOT know the name of it nor any details
he could offer other than it involved "us sending our people there and
them [Ebens] sending some of their people here."

He noted that this information was so highly compartmented by the USAF
that not even he could get the project name nor ANY details on it.
Though I worked on the most intimate details of the program as you know,
I did not offer to share program details with Richard though years had
elapsed at this point.

In order to compare the notes we had [DIA], I asked Richard how long the
EBENS had been coming to Earth. He said that because the Ebens were NOT
familiar with our sense and measure of time, they relied more on an
"event clock" and based on that information, we estimated that the Ebens
first arrived on our planet ~25,000 - ~30,000 years ago.

When the Ebens first arrived, they found Mankind to be in a generally
primitive state of being and development. They offered to help many
groups of Earth humans with fire and its constructive uses and the idea
for tools that would aid developing humans.

Some humans were outwardly hostile and ran the Ebens off while others
were welcoming and docile. The Ebens travelled the globe for thousands
of years always looking for groups/cities of humans who were receptive
to their UNconditional offers of help and aid.

According to the Ebens, Richard said that the Ebens found the ANASAZI
Indian culture in the SW United States and the ancient Inca and Mayan
cultures were among the most receptive to their offers of aid and
technological help and assistance.

While never naming him directly by name, the Ebens noted that during
their surveillance of our world over the past ~30,000 years, they did
point out a "prophet" on their event clock who appeared on Earth ~2,000
years ago whom they called an "Earthling deity." [An obvious reference
to JESUS CHRIST.]

The Ebens took special note of him because of the "huge following" he
had garnered and developed AND he could see and predict FUTURE events
accurately, an ability and skill that the Ebens themselves still do not
possess even to this day.

Richard said that the Ebens were "fascinated by this prophet" because of
an ability they they did not have AND how far advanced this "Earthling
deity" was in relation to his counterparts and fellow man of the day.

The Ebens still believed that all sentient life had a soul/spirit
[bio-plasmic body or "shadow matter"] and it continued to evolve into
future lifetimes in other "containers." They did NOT find this at odds
with what the "prophet" stated on the historical record at the time.

The Ebens made NO reference one way or the other as to whether they
believed this "Earthling deity" was actually a human manifestation of
the Creator of our universe OR was an engineered hybrid-human-alien
planted on Earth by another intervening alien species to serve as some
kind of evolved being and a "role model" to other Earth humans.

I DID share with Richard the infamous "Gate 3 Incident" at Area 51 [See
"Project SERPO" Release #23 at:

http://www.serpo.org/release23.php ]

which involved the downing [killing] of a Cloned Biological Entity
called an ARCHQULOID.

Likewise, Richard shared on incident with me that I had never heard of
in my decades-long USG service: the all-out, intense, nerve-racking
manhunt, capture and killing of a TRANTALOID from the star Epsilon
Eridani, 10.5 light-years from Earth in the Constellation Eridanus.

MODERATOR's NOTE: EPSILON ERIDANI is one of the closest naked-eye stars
to Earth and very similar to our own Sun with a magnitude of 3.7 though
somewhat fainter and cooler. In 2000, it was formally announced as an
"extrasolar system likely to have an exoplanet" after a giant planet was
seen orbiting its sun.

This information -- which appeared in the REAGAN Release of #27a --
contradicts what appeared earlier in "Project SERPO" Release #23 at:

http://www.serpo.org/release23.php

"CATALOGUED ALIEN SPECIES and THEIR CELESTIAL ORIGINS" (I hope to have
this resolved soon in follow-up communications with ANONYMOUS.)

According to Richard [Helms], one (1) of two (2) hostile alien species
who regularly come to Earth landed their Klingon-like ship in the
Washington DC area in broad daylight in 1985!

Upon landing, the cloaking device was disabled and the single TRANTALOID
alien being exited from its craft. There were many startled passerbys
who created a ruckus and commotion all of whom were quickly neutralized
[killed] by the Trantaloid creature, most of whom were left horribly
disfigured.

The manhunt was on almost immediately which also grudgingly involved the
FBI as all available law enforcement personnel was needed to capture the
errant Trantaloid.

Late into the evening, the deadly and hostile Trantaloid was cornered
and captured and subsequently taken and held at an underground bunker at
the Marine Corps Base in Quantico, VA.

In the ensuing hours, there was a mad
rush to find a doctor/doctors who could administer the right
tranquilizer and in the correct dosage to the alien creature.

Finding and fitting restraints to render him/it almost immobile was also
a daunting task as it exhibited great muscle strength [comparable to the
creatures in the first "PREDATOR" movie series].

In the end, the right tranquilizer was found and administered,
UNfortunately, in too high a dosage and the Trantaloid creature
subsequently expired [died].

The TRANTALOID alien creature was then placed on a special U.S. military
transport where it was sent to Area 51 for a full autopsy; it still lies
there today.

In the aftermath, Richard noted as a brief aside that one of the
participating FBI Special Agents told him in a follow-up a private
briefing that during the manhunt, he was told that "you're looking for
an alien being from another planet with hostile intentions to the
national security interests of the United States."

This Special Agent found it so UNbelievable that he instead believed
they were looking for a "deformed human mutation" with extraordinary
strength and that the alien angle was only used as excuse to emphasize
the manifest necessity in the immediate location and capture of this
target.

Richard stated that while the USG had "always enjoyed a pleasant working
and collegial relationship with the Ebens," -- whom he further described
as "basically explorers of the cosmos" -- the same could NOT be said of
the two (2) alien species who had displayed hostile actions and intent
toward Earth humans:

-- The TRANTALOIDS and QUADLOIDS --

Richard emphatically stated that it was these two (2) alien species who
were responsible for the spate of so-called "alien abductions" greatly
popularized in pop culture.

It was in fact the TRANTALOID species that President Reagan had in mind
when he lamented how the nations of Earth would "unify and come
together" to repel an alien force from outer space threatening the
world.

[See "Project SERPO" Release #27a at:

Doc
07-06-2012, 06:20 AM
Serpo Flash Update Continued:

http://www.serpo.org/release27a.php ]

Richard said the the QUADLOIDS have basically ceased their abductions of
humans as they've found the atmosphere and microorganisms toxic to their
species and in fact, many have died from return trips and lengthy
exposure to Earth's greatly diversified environment [much like the
attacking alien species did in "WAR OF THE WORLDS."]

To the best of his knowledge, TRANTALOIDS were/are the sole species
abducting Earth humans for three (3) primary reasons:

1) general experimentation on Earth humans;

2) detailed analysis of our species;

3) trial cross-breeding between Earth humans and the Trantaloid species.

Since my primary focus and work was on "Project SERPO" and on reverse
engineering of the recovered alien discs we had collected over the
years, I asked Richard about the many reported COW ABDUCTIONS and he
informed me that the Trantaloids were abducting/mutilating cows to
develop anti-toxins for themselves located and derived from within the
unique cow physiology.

Apparently, they too -- much like the Quadloids -- had health-related
issues from Earth's "toxic" environment which Earth humans are immune
and acclimated to.

Richard noted for the record that while the Ebens respected humanity,
they felt NO wrong was committed to experiment on a dead human body as
they firmly believed that the body's soul had exited and that the
container was of little or no use now, and experimentation might only
benefit us in the long run with the sharing of what they learned about
us with our medical personnel.

This is all I have and can recall from my meetings with RICHARD HELMS --
either in a formal or INformal setting -- and I hope it helps set the
record straight on this matter which should NEVER have become the issue
it has.

I'm still working on your next release while recovering from major
surgery.

More to come....

– ANONYMOUS

http://www.serpo.org/

Garuda
07-06-2012, 06:48 AM
Also available on the Serpo web site at http://www.serpo.org/update_falcon.php

Chris
07-06-2012, 06:54 AM
Several interesting points here - starting with Anonymous willing to "name names" (Falcon = Richard Helms). This is of course not the first time Helms' name has come up in relation to ufology.

Another tidbit is that Anon is working on the next release.

Garuda
07-06-2012, 06:56 AM
Back in the 90s I often read the - now defunkt - Mind Control Forums.

From what was posted there, it seemed like the role of 'Falcon' was played by several individuals on different occasions.
The list included Richard Doty, John Barry Hennessey. C.B. Scott Jones, ...

So I'm curious to find out what Grant Cameron will have to say about it.

murmur
07-06-2012, 02:29 PM
Does anyone believe any of the latest release?

Garuda
07-06-2012, 02:44 PM
Let me put it this way: I'm more likely to rely on Grant Cameron's research than on Anon's word... :biggrin2:

Doc
07-06-2012, 03:59 PM
I have been hearing for a very long time that Helms knew most of the secret stuff worth knowing. He had been in the right jobs at the right time and knew all of the right people.

611

Lee
07-06-2012, 04:05 PM
It looks like there are at least four possible identities for the 'Falcon'.

First is Rick Doty, who is known to have 'played the role' during the UFO Cover Up LIVE broadcast from 1988. (Condor was Bob Collins.)

There have been persistent rumours that former AFOSI Colonel Barry Hennessey was the 'Falcon', this information seems to originate with Rick Doty and has been contested. - http://www.starpod.org/news/1201191.htm

Then we have Greg Bishop telling us that Rositke was the 'Falcon', he seems to have been told this directly by Bill Moore. Although, Grant Cameron did add the caveat that the name was "not 100%"

Now we have Anon telling us that Richard Helms was the 'Falcon'. Funnily enough, I suggested to Grant that 'Falcon' could be Helms a couple of weeks ago. It is feasible, for at least two reasons:

- We were told that 'Falcon' died in 2002, Rositke died in 2002, but so did Richard Helms - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Helms (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRic hard_Helms&h=UAQFVrlUqAQGWuIhOTgEEfE5Qo6xcKHuD-OCNiJEbj_lgfA)

- Even more compelling, Gary Bekkum released and email exchange between Kit Green and Ron Pandolfi a while back, Helms was quoted in that private email exchange. So it seems he was involved with some of the Aviary folks at one time and probably up to speed on the topic. Here is an excerpt from that email:

"I will think about this seriously, as long as our three-person team remains protected. I will cut and run the first instant I get a whiff that some list or ... whomever -- gets interested in me," wrote the unwitting source, "I fully agree with Ron's mystification about [former Director of Central Intelligence, Richard] Helms. Why he contacted me, wanted to meet with me privately at the National Research Council, and was so unambiguous confuses me ... "I am not prepared to repeat what he said to me before that, because I am uncertain as to his mental state -- he seemed intact, but the subject was, after all quite crazy -- he required secrecy, and he never said I would be released from it -- the CORE STORY he claimed was true is the same we have heard -- and because I am too busy, like you, I will take my counsel from Ron." - http://stargate007.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/hunt-for-falcon-adventures-in-ufo-soap.html#!/2012/01/hunt-for-falcon-adventures-in-ufo-soap.html

Doc
07-06-2012, 05:51 PM
http://stargate007.blogspot.com/2009/07/crystal-knight-is-this-richard-helms.html

Helms is also mentioned as the Raven in this piece:

1. "Raven" IDed as " Dick Helms by Doty, who also called him Mr R.
Collins indicated that only Jaime Shandera knows who he is. Jaimie
meet with Raven in DC. Raven was showing him secret apartment the
EBE3 was being kept in DC. Walter Ferguson, CIA, also possible
"Raven".

Dragonfire
07-07-2012, 02:02 PM
It seems here that only the name's are actually real. Tying them altogether with some science fiction. The story of the "bad" EBE's reminds me of a SyFy Saturday night movie called 51, which revolves around the premise that the United States government is housing extraterrestrials at 'Area 51' just outside of Groom Lake, Nevada. In response to external political and media pressures, the government decides to offer two reporters full access to the base and its contents. A carnivorous alien captive uses this intrusion as an excuse to liberate itself and its fellow prisoners, and proceeds to turn the entire area into a bloodbath. Bruce Boxleitner was in it.

Doc
07-07-2012, 03:34 PM
It seems here that only the name's are actually real. Tying them altogether with some science fiction. The story of the "bad" EBE's reminds me of a SyFy Saturday night movie called 51, which revolves around the premise that the United States government is housing extraterrestrials at 'Area 51' just outside of Groom Lake, Nevada. In response to external political and media pressures, the government decides to offer two reporters full access to the base and its contents. A carnivorous alien captive uses this intrusion as an excuse to liberate itself and its fellow prisoners, and proceeds to turn the entire area into a bloodbath. Bruce Boxleitner was in it.

Funny you should say that but Bruce Boxleitner counts on this to make a living. :bleh:

Jack Sarfatti says pretty much the same thing. via email:

"fyi

Reader beware. It’s disinformation, i.e. truth hidden in a body guard of lies, but it would make a profitable movie in the hands of a good screen writer."

I consider him the be one of the smartest and best informed guys out there (so does he) as well as skeptical and trustworthy in the honesty of his statements. The problem with skepticism as we usually see it, IMO, is that it is just too damn easy and safe. It takes more risk to dig deeper, keep the options open and see what happens.
So, when a smart man like Jack Sarfatti dismisses it, the statement carries some weight with me. The Falcon is just a name. Who used it or had it attached to him at any one given time is not nearly as important as what motivated these people to become involved in Science Fiction. Richard Helms isn't fiction. He is a known person with a traceable, provable history who was known to be a keeper of secrets as well as a read-in player at the highest levels. If he chose to involve himself in these matters here and there it tends to suggest something more on his part that an interest in B Movies. Finding out what that interest is and the truth or falseness of it is the puzzle. A lot of smart people including a few people who have ties to secrets to this day are interested in the puzzle too. Why?

Doc
07-08-2012, 03:28 PM
via Jeff: Some research material on Richard Helms from an official source.

http://www.foia.cia.gov/helms.asp


A Life in Intelligence - The Richard Helms Collection Overview This collection of material by and about Richard Helms as Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) and Ambassador to Iran comprises the largest single release of Helms-related information to date. The documents, historical works and essays offer an unprecedented, wide-ranging look at the man and his career as the United States' top intelligence official and one of its most important diplomats during a crucial decade of the Cold War. From mid-1966, when he became DCI, to late 1976, when he left Iran, Helms dealt directly with numerous events whose impact remains evident today and which are covered in the release.

Lee
07-08-2012, 07:57 PM
This just in from Brian Parks, who was a close friend of Bill Moore for many years and is one of the few people in a position to know the true identity of the 'Falcon': -

"To the best of my knowledge very few people were in a position to know who the real Falcon was. The two we know about for certain are Bill Moore and Richard Doty. Both had direct interaction with him. Bill Moore provided a name to his friend Greg Bishop in 2005. I had known Bill closely from the early 1980's until he dropped out of UFO research around 1994. Just a few months ago he gave me the very same name as Bishop.

In terms of my research and his we both agree that we see nothing yet to suggest this person was not the Falcon. We also have no reason to believe that Bill Moore was being anything less than truthful in the matter. Now that the name has been made public it is our hope that others may come forward or be able to uncover something we have not.

Brian Parks"

Chris
07-08-2012, 08:15 PM
There were a couple of items being discussed a few days ago which seemed to have preceded this flurry of activity - the first is the linking of Rositzke as being Falcon and the second was a mention by Chase Brandon of there being a "box" at the CIA containing artifacts and information concerning the Roswell crash.

Now I don't know if it was just one or the other or both that has caused the rise in level of interest from several different parties connected to this phenomenon in an official capacity but I also can't help but think that much of what has been thrown out there is like chaff from a military jet trying to distract and misdirect an incoming missile.

Are one (or both) of these items the real deal? Are we seeing an attempt to sling mud over the facts so as to not see what lies beneath?

Doc
07-09-2012, 05:04 AM
Meanwhile, via email, Fidelio47 tweaks Victor Martinez and Anonymous:

"VM, this will go everywhere, Out Post has it. Your Anon is a mental case like some others I knew in government...I agree with Brian Parks, been in this since 1985...Rmc

This just in from Brian Parks, who was a close friend of Bill Moore for many years and is one of the few people in a position to know the true identity of the 'Falcon': -

"To the best of my knowledge very few people were in a position to know who the real Falcon was. The two we know about for certain are Bill Moore and Richard Doty. Both had direct interaction with him. Bill Moore provided a name to his friend Greg Bishop in 2005. I had known Bill closely from the early 1980's until he dropped out of UFO research around 1994. Just a few months ago he gave me the very same name as Bishop.

In terms of my research and his we both agree that we see nothing yet to suggest this person was not the Falcon. We also have no reason to believe that Bill Moore was being anything less than truthful in the matter. Now that the name has been made public it is our hope that others may come forward or be able to uncover something we have not.

Brian Parks"

Doc
07-09-2012, 06:21 AM
Victor fires back:

"You'd better be kidding about this post on the Outpost Forum OR tell me that you're going to have it REMOVED because if ANONYMOUS learns of your juvenile, DISinformational behavior, he ain't gonna be none too happy with YOU, Bob! Ask Surfer Doc to remove it or else ... suffer the wrath of ANONYMOUS! – "

(So far, no one has requested any post to be removed.)

Fore
07-09-2012, 08:09 AM
Video Source provided by Shmush:

http://www.divshare.com/download/1393168-5b7

"Falcon" makes his appearance in the beginning of part 3. I just noticed how he talks very slowly, paused and very deliberately in an abnormal fashion. I wonder if it is to throw off that eras voice recognition systems?

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CasperParks
07-09-2012, 09:28 AM
Site was knocked down for a "data error" again... Makes me ponder if they're monitoring us, more than likely.

Lee
07-09-2012, 07:27 PM
Victor fires back:

"You'd better be kidding about this post on the Outpost Forum OR tell me that you're going to have it REMOVED because if ANONYMOUS learns of your juvenile, DISinformational behavior, he ain't gonna be none too happy with YOU, Bob! Ask Surfer Doc to remove it or else ... suffer the wrath of ANONYMOUS! – "

(So far, no one has requested any post to be removed.)
I received that email from Brian last night, he gave me clear permission to post and I did so without hesitation. Why wouldn't I? He knew Bill Moore very well and was given the name by Moore himself very recently and completely independently to Greg Bishop. It seems to me that Moore is the most likely person to know exactly who the 'Falcon' was, given that he made up the bird names himself.

Playing Devils advocate, maybe Anon was telling the truth but just assumed Helms was named 'Falcon' because of their common involvement behind the scenes? Maybe Helms was 'Raven' after all?

murmur
07-10-2012, 02:46 AM
So who exactly is saying Falcon was Helms and who is saying Falcon was Rositzke?

Flying Tiger Comics
07-10-2012, 04:34 AM
As usual with disinformation specialists, it's like the scene in Batman where Two-Face throws up one coin... And then Batman throws up another handful, totally confusing the issue...

Best way to track the "Aviary" is a police style wall chart- put up all the suspects, draw the lines between them and do the hard slog of verifying their job descriptions and validating the dates and times claimed... Unfortunately, since that's no small undertaking. :(

CasperParks
07-10-2012, 04:58 AM
As usual with disinformation specialists, it's like the scene in Batman where Two-Face throws up one coin... And then Batman throws up another handful, totally confusing the issue...

Best way to track the "Aviary" is a police style wall chart- put up all the suspects, draw the lines between them and do the hard slog of verifying their job descriptions and validating the dates and times claimed... Unfortunately, since that's no small undertaking. :(

There a lot of coins spinning and falling on the ground.

Flying Tiger Comics
07-10-2012, 05:22 AM
It's a bit like dead whistleblowers- if they didn't make the effort to blow smoke, no one would probably pay that much attention, but when they make a flurry of activity in a certain pattern it stands out like bacon in Temple.

newyorklily
07-10-2012, 06:58 PM
I think I found a major discrepancy with Victor's email Anon statement.

From Gary Bekkum's post quoting the Fox Broadcast from 1988 http://www.starpod.us/2012/01/18/the-falcon-and-the-ufo-core-story/#.T_xWTPXVWM9


There are government officials — and elected officials — that are grammatically briefed on the existence of the MJ-12 activities — these officials include the President, the Vice President, as elected officials — the Director of Central Intelligence and the Director of the National Security Agency — the MJ-12 policy is headquartered in the Naval Observatory in Washington D.C. — the United States Navy has the primary operational responsibilities of field activities relating to the MJ-12 policies. All information gathered in the field — not necessarily by Navy personnel — is transmitted to the Navy for analysis.”
During the broadcast, a chart was briefly displayed that illustrated the chain of command under the alleged MJ-12 group. Based upon the chart, authority over MJ-12 comes directly from the President of the United States. The group is shown to be on an equivalent level with the White House National Security Council. MJ-12 intelligence is then disseminated to the CIA, the NSA, and another alleged entity called AQUARIUS, over the Defense Intelligence Agency. The chart then discloses a real SECRET (in 1988) DIA Parapsychology Research Unit — later revealed in the declassified STAR GATE files — as well as the existence of AREA 51/Dreamland.
Information is also disseminated to DARPA — the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and “DC5″ of the Defense Information Systems Agency.
At the bottom of the organization are the Army, the Office of Naval Intelligence, and the AFIS, the Air Force Intelligence Service

And, from Victor's email


Richard [Helms] was an adviser to the MJ-12 group and in fact was not
only a contributing editor to the "Red Book," [presented to the U.S.
President every five (5) years on alien activities], but was the final
editor --- Editor-in-Chief if you will -- for the one presented in the
late 1960s.

Richard also spoke of knowing of an "exchange program" ["Projects SERPO"
and "CRYSTAL KNIGHT"], but did NOT know the name of it nor any details
he could offer other than it involved "us sending our people there and
them [Ebens] sending some of their people here."

He noted that this information was so highly compartmented by the USAF
that not even he could get the project name nor ANY details on it.

It makes more sense that the Navy be in control because they own the skies by owning most (if not all) of the American Satellites (NOAA). Who ever wrote that last email to Victor did not know what was said in 1988 and assumed it was the Air Force.

This is not the same Anon.

Dragonfire
07-11-2012, 01:07 AM
You may be on to something there. However, isn't there alway's, He could be correct in that "He noted that this information was so highly compartmented by the USAF that not even he could get the project name nor ANY details on it."

Just a thought......

CasperParks
07-11-2012, 01:11 AM
Navy does make sense.

epo333
07-11-2012, 01:40 AM
Since we haven't posted a "List of Aviary Members" I found this one of Grant Cameron's last up-dated Monday, 02 May 2011 12:41


List of Aviary Members

Written by Grant Cameron
Friday, 29 April 2011 14:46



•BLUE JAY: Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green, MD, Ph.D; Chief, Biomedical Sciences Department, General Motors, former head of the CIA's UFO files at the "Weird Desk."
•SEA GULL: Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D., research scientist in optical physics and laser weapons applications at the U.S. Naval Surface Weapons Lab, Maryland; MUFON physics/photo-interpretive consultant.
•PELICAN: Ron Pandolfi, CIA Deputy Director for the Division of Science and Technology and current custodian of UFO files at the "Weird Desk"; may be involved in the White House initiative to promptly release UFO information to the public.
•OWL: Hal Puthoff, physicist with the Institute for Advanced Research in Austin, Texas, who specializes in Zero-Point Energy, a quantum/resonance physics phenomenon with reported potential for above-unity ("free") energy.
•PENGUIN: John Alexander, Ph.D, Lt. Col. U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command Col.
•HAWK: Ernie Kellerstrauss, security cleared for UFO information; worked at Wright-Patterson AFB in the 1970s and reportedly lived with an extraterrestrial for a while.
•CHICKADEE: Cmdr. C.B. Scott Jones, Ph.D., USN (Ret.), former officer with the Office of Naval intelligence and other agencies; 30 years service in U.S. intelligence overseas; involved in government research and development projects for the Defense Nuclear Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and other organizations; former aide to Sen. Clairborne Pell, who had had a long-standing interest in UFOs and the paranormal.
•CONDOR: Capt. Bob Collins, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, engaged in UFO-related intelligence operations, reportedly appeared clandestinely on the 1988 television program "UFO Cover-Up Live"
•FALCON: Many have fingered Sgt. Richard "Dick" Doty, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations; reported to have engaged in UFO disinformation projects, including reportedly hoaxing TV producer Linda Howe concerning availability of a tape showing a UFO landing at Holloman Air Force Base, N.M. and allegedly waging psychological warfare on Albuquerque defense electronic contractor Paul Bennewitz. The actual Falcon was a DIA agent with a Slavic name who died in 2001. Only Bill Moore and Greg Bishop know who this person is as far as we know.
•SPARROW: Richard Doty
•RAVEN: (Identity not yet determined – actually may be two different ones.) One raven may have been Dale Graff (Raven) - Performed contract oversight for the DIA at Wright Patterson AFB. Most recently, Graff was the chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special department. Second RAVEN appears to be a kingpin. Jamie Shandera dealt with him.
•PARTRIDGE?: Jacques Vallee, Ph.D., formerly an astrophysicist with GEPAN, the French Government’s UFO investigative agency, later moved to U.S. as principal investigator with Defense Department computer network projects; worked with famed astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek author on UFO subject.
•Jack Vorona (bird name unknown) - Vorona was apparently the most covert of all the Birds. He was believed to have been a liaison between Capitol Hill and Los Alamos. Was once involved in Project Sleeping Beauty, an attempt to disable enemy troops using electromagnetic radiation.
•CHICKEN LITTLE: Dan Smith, civilian UFO research/volunteer liaison with Ronald Pandolfi.

http://www.presidentialufo.com/the-aviary/363-list-of-aviary-members

Note his is very much like this one (not exact though) from Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D.

I think Boylan's list might be from 1995.

http://www.drboylan.com/aviary2.html

Flying Tiger Comics
07-11-2012, 03:46 AM
I've been researching DIA / DISC for a little while now, I wonder if the Aviary is simply a newer version of the cointelpro part of DISC? The Tobin Document refers to DISC as the DIA created von Braun administered base security-plus-disinfo group protecting first the military space programme then when the military space programme went underground behind the "Project Bluebook" style facade of NASA (all the same military personnel were still in place in the "civilian" space programme) DISC shifted more to almost an X-Files type group with a clear agenda to conceal, subvert and divert.

Sounds like The Aviary- not what they claim to be but the actual effect of The Aviary.

Just a theory.

Doc
07-11-2012, 08:10 AM
Lily: Why not post that to Victor's List on the current email thread and see who says what?

Flying Tiger Comics
07-11-2012, 08:42 AM
Re: Jack Vorona:


Mr. Speaker, I rise to recognize Dr. Jack Vorona of Falls Church, Virginia for his induction into the Defense Intelligence Agency's Torch Bearers Hall. DIA established Torch Bearers Hall this year to coincide with its 50th anniversary and to recognize former employees who have made exceptional contributions to its mission. Dr. Vorona's invaluable leadership in developing scientific and technical intelligence programs during the height of the Cold War helped keep Americans safe and secured him a spot among the eight inaugural recipients of this honor.
During his 25-year career at DIA, Dr. Vorona developed many programs aimed at identifying foreign defense technologies that could threaten the U.S. and its allies, including nuclear technologies. As Deputy Director for Scientific and Technical Intelligence, he oversaw funding to address the most significant threats posed by massive Soviet investments in science, technology, and weapons programs. His work was vital in helping to ensure that the U.S. was never technologically surprised.
Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues to join me in recognizing Dr. Vorona's remarkable achievements and in thanking him for his dedicated service to the nation.

***

Jack Vorona: DIA, TSS Head, Psi researcher, committe member managing UFO disinfo, member of the so-called Aviary.


Jack Vorona honored for 25 years service (http://flyingtigercomics.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/recognizing-dr-jack-voronas-induction.html)

newyorklily
07-11-2012, 10:45 AM
Lily: Why not post that to Victor's List on the current email thread and see who says what?

Sent. But I think I only have half the email list (L through Z).

Doc
07-11-2012, 03:26 PM
For some reason this naming of Rositke followed by the naming of Helms has shaken a lot of tree branches because all kinds of things are falling out.

newyorklily
07-13-2012, 01:30 AM
Stanton Friedman is (right now) on Eye Witness Radio on www.globalradioalliance (http://www.globalradioalliance). I asked him if he thought Helms cvould be Falcon and he said there is zero chance it was him.

I'll post the link for the archive as soon as the station posts it up.

Lee
07-14-2012, 12:11 PM
Grant Cameron's article on this topic is now available. It is long and detailed and provides and excellent overview of US intelligence involvement in disseminating UFO information to civilian researchers. Beginning with Bill Moore's Aviary and continuing right up to the recent revelations from Chase Brandon. Essential reading:


"UFO Hocus Pocus: The Story of the Falcon

Written by Grant Cameron
Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:54

Part of our intelligence process is to be involved in counterintelligence, to lead the enemy in another direction by providing those misdirecting dots. From the book Homeland Security and Intelligence

"Something does not make much sense here. Why would someone in Washington mount a disinformation effort if the only result is to confuse members of the UFO research community, which is a very small group without much influence over the public at large?" Researcher and Author Jacques Vallee

Cast of Characters

Bill Moore – Prominent author and UFO researcher in the 1980s. Moore wrote “The Roswell Incident” which put the 1947 Roswell UFO crash story on the map. Prior to the book no one in the UFO community had ever heard of the story. He released the now infamous MJ-12 documents (a document that purported to be a UFO briefing for then President-elect Dwight Eisenhower) to the UFO community with Jamie Shandera and Stanton Friedman.

Jamie Shandera – Shandera was Hollywood film producer who teamed up with Bill Moore to research and release the MJ-12 document. He was not a UFO researcher prior to teaming up with Moore. It was Shandera who received the MJ-12 document in the mail.

Stanton Friedman – The third member of the MJ-12 research team who played no part in the hocus pocus detailed below. When approached with the name of the Falcon he told me “never heard of the guy.”

The Aviary – When Moore and Shandera were operating with their many high level intelligence sources in the 1980s, they used bird names for each source so that they could talk on the phone about the sources without using their names. Thirty years later Moore and Shandera have still not disclosed which person represented each bird. Most of the birds were never aware of this bird naming game till years later, and few if any know which bird they were.

The Falcon – The Falcon was one of the two most important birds. Moore has now confirmed that he believed Falcon to be Harry Rositzke - a former high ranking CIA official who was brought out of retirement claiming to represent a group of government insiders who wanted the UFO story put into the public. Moore apparently never met Rositzke but calculated who he must have been.

Richard Doty – Acted as the Falcon to protect the identity of the real Falcon. Reported to be a Special Agent for Air Force Office of Special Investigations at Kirkland Air Force base, but may actually have been working not for AFOSI but for Air Force Intelligence according to a new claim.

Lee Graham – A technician working for Aerojet in a classified position who was chosen to leak the documents that Moore and Shandera were receiving from their intelligence sources.



Setting the Stage

In a lecture given in Las Vegas in 1989 researcher Bill Moore recounted how the story of the Falcon and how the document leaks began,

"In early September, 1980, I was approached by a well- placed individual within the intelligence community who claimed to be directly connected to a high-level project dealing with UFOs. This individual told me that he spoke for a small group of similar individuals who were uncomfortable with the government's continuing cover-up of the truth and indicated that he and his group would like to help me with my research into the subject in the hope and expectation that I might be able to help them find a way to change the prevailing policy and get the facts to the public without breaking any laws in the process. The man who acted as liaison between this group and myself was an Air Force Office of Special Investigations agent named Richard Doty.”
Most importantly, Falcon told Moore that the information he would receive on UFOs would not all be accurate. Some of it would be disinformation. It would be up to Moore to figure out what was true and what was false. Moore accepted the challenge.

The Moore/Falcon/Aviary story is a story that still fascinates UFO researchers thirty-two years after it first began. Many researchers, such as myself, spend a lot of time trying to figure out who each of the birds of the aviary are and what information they told Moore and Shandera. It is an example of a second level UFO cover-up which is very common in Ufology. Many researchers sit quietly in the background gathering pieces of the UFO story from government and intelligence stories. The information gathered, however, is not shared with the general public. It becomes like a second level cover-up where an individual or a group of individuals, like rich men hunting rare illegal wild game, have gathered some of the UFO secrets withheld from government for their own person enjoyment.

The story that Moore would be feed would later be called the UFO “Core story.” Three men dr. Kit Green, Hal Puthoff, and Jacques Vallee met to identify what they knew for sure about all the circulating UFO stories - they came up with the core story - that extraterrestrials have visited the earth, there was a crash and the government has had a lot of trouble back engineering the saucer technology, and at least one alien was a guest of the United Sates government. The main piece of information that Moore would be given that was new was the MJ-12 document which claimed to be a UFO briefing given to the President-elect Dwight Eisenhower.

Moore’s recalled in his Sept 30, 1989 “Focus” magazine that when his research partner Jamie Shandera first received the MJ-12 Eisenhower Presidential Briefing documents anonymously in the mail in 1984 he went to talk about the document with both Richard Doty and the Falcon. He wanted to know what to do.

According to Moore, Doty told him “find someone to show them to who would do a lot of talking about them to a lot of people. ‘Show them to this person,’ he said, ‘but be sure not to give him any copies. Let whoever it is talk all they want.’ …It sounded like a good idea and I decided to act on it. After carefully considering ‘candidates’ and discussing them with Rick and others including ‘Falcon’ himself, we settled on Lee Graham.”

And so Graham became the “Pigeon” of the infamous UFO aviary – the bird who would carry the message to the curious UFO research community. He was perfect for the job. Graham held nothing back. There were no secrets. He even took every document that Moore would leak to him to his security department at AeroJet where he worked under classification as a technician. Most of the documents got out but as Graham has confirmed to me there were other documents that he received from Moore that never saw the light of day." Continue reading - http://www.presidentialufo.com/articles-a-papers/439-ufo-hocus-pocus-the-story-of-the-falcon

Lee
07-14-2012, 12:38 PM
I thought Grant provided and excellent overview of US intelligence involvement in disseminating UFO information to civilian researchers. Re: the SERPO material, it could be said that among the smoke there was an extension of the so called 'Core Story'.

Pre Serpo

- ET has visited Earth
- Craft and bodies are in US possession (reverse engineering has met with limited success)
- Some limited contact has been made

Post Serpo

- Diplomatic relations have been established
- Some form of personnel exchange may have taken place
- The ETs have experimented with our genetics (This was restated in the most recent comment from Anon)

I can't help wondering if the recent revelations from Chase Brandon may have been a (thwarted?) attempt to point civilian researchers toward physical evidence to support the basic core story.

newyorklily
07-15-2012, 12:02 AM
Grant Cameron is going to be interviewed by Richard Dolan tonight on his show Truth Out Radio.

From Richard Dolan's Face Book post:

Richard Dolan: Don’t miss Richard Dolan on tonight’s Truth Out Radio. Tonight’s show:
The CIA and UFOs: An in-depth Interview with Researcher Grant Cameron … Big Brother Developments from around the World … Why Eric Walker is so important to UFO Research … RMD gives his thoughts on the movie Prometheus … and listener calls.
Always live from 8-11 p.m. EST at http://www.globalradioalliance.com/

murmur
07-15-2012, 03:58 AM
Grant Cameron's article on this topic is now available. It is long and detailed and provides and excellent overview of US intelligence involvement in disseminating UFO information to civilian researchers. Beginning with Bill Moore's Aviary and continuing right up to the recent revelations from Chase Brandon. Essential reading:

"UFO Hocus Pocus: The Story of the Falcon






Good read...thanks for posting that Lee

Lee
07-15-2012, 12:29 PM
You're welcome, Mur.
__________________________

Bob Collins provided some clarification via email. Posted with permission:

"As Bill told me in 1985, he met the real Falcon in 1979 just after his Roswell book came out. Falcon told him then that he was the only one on the right track and as you know other insiders wanted to get the true story out. That became the Reagan Disclosure with Bob Gates and Henry Kissinger standing behind us as Jaimie told or passed onto me.

The Reagan Disclosure program died in 1991 as described in the EfD. The bad guys were winning. All other Presidents since Reagan have been against any Disclosure. We had NSA and AF Intelligence watching us constantly as you know, non stop.

As for Alexander, I don't think anybody likes the guy including me, he is spreading too many rumors and a government kiss ass IMO. The typical stereotype of a sleazy Army Col like some AF Cols I use to know that get under your skin. Wanted to punch them out.

Anyhow, all those negative attitudes give me my gun ho attitude. The more challenging the better. I'm a thrill seeker...Cheers"

Lee
07-16-2012, 09:43 PM
Some highlights from the last 24hrs on the email short list - (posted with permission):

From Tamara Linden:

"The real Falcon was Richard Helms, Bill Moore told me this back in 2005. Moore had many sources and Rositkte was probably one of them but I doubt Rositkte was his primary source."

From Bob Collins:

"Quoting Tamara Linden, LOL. Bunch of crazy people. If Bill Moore told her that then he lied. He has no respect for Tamara nor does Doty nor I. As the trouble maker Tamara, he gave Tamara quite a line. Known Bill Moore since 1985, I know what he does. Here is what Brian Parks just said: Thanks Brian.

In June/July 2012 the CIA Falcon was disclosed as none other than Harry August Rositzke who died November 4, 2002 in Warrenton, Virginia. Very few people were in a position to know who the real Falcon was. The two we know about for certain are Bill Moore and Richard Doty. Both had direct interaction with him. Bill Moore provided a name to his friend Greg Bishop in 2005. Brian Parks (see author link, last page) had known Bill closely from the early 1980's until he dropped out of UFO research around 1994. Just a few months ago he gave Brian the very same name as Bishop had (4)"

From Brian Parks:

"For the record and you may pass along and post:

For my part I certainly never said or suggested that Helms was not involved. In fact the name has been out there for quite some time and published in Robert Collins book. This leaves me less impressed with those who are trying to pass along a name we already knew about in the first place.

And consider what makes sense. That somebody as high up and well known as Helms would get his hands dirty? Or would it be far more likely that he stay in the deep back round and let an old Counter-Intelligence professional like Harry do the organizing part of the operation.

I will also tell you, since this is easy enough to find out, that Rositzke knew Helms going all the way back to the OSS days. We are talking about a very small circle of people. And he certainly would have known him as DCI before he retired officially in 1970."

Flying Tiger Comics
07-17-2012, 06:28 AM
Richard Helms- the man who famously said several times that the key to secrecy was to "never put anything in writing"- seems a hilariously unlikely person to have been any sort of Deep Throat let alone become part of the Aviary mythos.

The Aviary and related multiple layer fake disclosure reminds me of the adage about reincarnation- how weird it is that no one ever remembers a past life where they were a slattern, slave or peasant, everyone's an Egyptian Princess, etc. Likewise, the Aviary is suffering from hierarchical inflation- from typical low level agency employees working disinformation rackets it keeps threatening to inflate into a "conspiracy" involving everyone's favourite dead intel directors. William Colby would have been a much better choice than Helms, because Colby had a history of "doing a Hillenkoeter" and breaking silence on various fringe matters.

kingfish
07-19-2012, 02:47 PM
More from Grant Cameron's web site:

Lee Speigel, Stanton Friedman, and Grant Cameron discuss the CIA Roswell story that was initiated by Chase Brandon, a 35-year veteran of the Agency, who has come forward describing a box at CIA headquarters which proved to him that the Roswell crash was an extraterrestrial event.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ufothinktank/2012/07/17/roswell-cia-ufo-forum-speigel-friedman-and-cameron.mp3


Toward the end of the interview, Stanton Friedman mentions the name of the producer for his 1979 documentary: "UFOs are Real": none other than ......... Chase Brandon.

Hmmm... when did he see the box?

So I'm now curious as to whether there is any connection between Mr. Brandon and Mr. Shandera.
(MJ-12->1984?). Are there dots to be connected here................?

the kingfish

Doc
07-19-2012, 03:44 PM
As Lee says above, there are a lot of reasons to believe that there is a renewed effort under way to push elements of The Core Story onto the public consciousness. Each day now the MSM has a new piece of news referencing extraterrestrial life in one way or another. Either some someones are hard at work or the most massive coincidence in the history of mass media is taking place. The hype machine is powered up and churning. The most benign explanation is that the world is bored and this is an attempt to gin up a new fad. The other explanation is that various important people have an agenda and we are seeing is the product that agenda wishes us to see.

CasperParks
07-19-2012, 05:11 PM
It is possible that on Disclosure Day, they will go back to the Rosewell Incident. Telling only selected parts of the whole story, leaving out the days and weeks that followed.