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Garuda
11-26-2012, 03:47 PM
Bigfoot is REAL

A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA study CONFIRMS the existence of a the hominin hybrid species living in North America that is commonly called "Bigfoot" or "Sasquatch" (NOTE: Subscribers can still listen to this show). Their extensive DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a human relative that arose approximately 15,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an unknown primate species.

The study was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology, led by veterinarian Melba S. Ketchum, who says, "Our study has sequenced 20 whole mitochondrial genomes and utilized next generation sequencing to obtain 3 whole nuclear genomes from purported Sasquatch samples. The genome sequencing shows that Sasquatch mtDNA is identical to modern Homo sapiens, but Sasquatch nuDNA is a novel, unknown hominin related to Homo sapiens and other primate species. Our data indicate that the North American Sasquatch is a hybrid species, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.

More at: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/bigfoot-real

Doc
11-26-2012, 05:01 PM
It will be interesting to see how mainstream this goes.

Neuru
11-26-2012, 05:47 PM
No, not really.

http://doubtfulnews.com/2012/11/melba-ketchum-announces-bigfoot-dna-results-without-the-data/

Doc
11-26-2012, 06:05 PM
I can wait for the results. Jumping the gun on research results has become an everyday thing. It is about egos, politics and money. Another problem is that few reporters understand science well enough to write something other than a paraphrased press release. Science is still science, though, and a well done study is hard to refute on substantive grounds.

CasperParks
11-28-2012, 03:48 AM
MSNBC has an artical on the subject:

MSNBC artical, click to read more (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49980829/ns/technology_and_science-science/):

Doc
11-28-2012, 04:49 AM
Several sites have basically the same story. No update yet from the researchers. I read last night that another DNA study is almost ready for release and this group was afraid of getting beat, so one person jumped ahead. In other cases I know about it was usually one member of a team acting on his own without the consent of the others. Just academic hijinks.

Dragonfire
01-28-2013, 09:50 PM
DNA confirms Bigfoot existance..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BzZWqRdkoBI

This goes along with post number 1 above.

Doc
01-29-2013, 05:40 PM
I still consider this one to be in the "pending" column. Either the results will be confirmed or they won't. Meanwhile, there are all sorts of people running around the woods with cameras these days. I wouldn't be too surprised to see one of them get the Big One.

Dragonfire
01-29-2013, 07:07 PM
Doesn't it always seem that any photo or video taken is always fuzzy, so to speak. Or when it is fairly clear, it is at a somewhat greater distance away.

Saw the BFRO show when they were in West Virginia. They baited a spot with fresh inards from a meat packing plant close by and set a trail cam looking at the spot. They heard a call and knocks. Went to check the bait and it was completely gone. The trail camera that was pointed at bait malfunctioned. Hmmm....

norenrad
01-29-2013, 07:22 PM
I hate it when that happens!

Garuda
01-30-2013, 06:12 AM
Doesn't it always seem that any photo or video taken is always fuzzy, so to speak. Or when it is fairly clear, it is at a somewhat greater distance away.

Saw the BFRO show when they were in West Virginia. They baited a spot with fresh inards from a meat packing plant close by and set a trail cam looking at the spot. They heard a call and knocks. Went to check the bait and it was completely gone. The trail camera that was pointed at bait malfunctioned. Hmmm....

Some local kid chuckling: free food for my dog for some days, and all I had to do was disable a camera... ;)

majicbar
02-15-2013, 02:24 AM
Several sites have basically the same story. No update yet from the researchers. I read last night that another DNA study is almost ready for release and this group was afraid of getting beat, so one person jumped ahead. In other cases I know about it was usually one member of a team acting on his own without the consent of the others. Just academic hijinks.

Over on alienscientist.com there was posted today this:

http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?4144-3-BIGFOOT-GENOMES-SEQUENCED-IN-5-YEAR-DNA-STUDY!-Positive


DeNovo Scientific Journal To Release Ketchum DNA Study


“Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies.”
Authors: Ketchum MS, Wojtkiewicz PW, Watts AB, Spence DW, Holzenburg AK, Toler DG, Prychitko TM, Zhang F, Bollinger S, Shoulders R, Smith R.
Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology. 11 January 2013.

Specimens yielding DNA were obtained, purportedly from elusive hominins in North America called Sasquatch. Sequencing and genotyping were performed in addition to histopathologic and electron microscopic examination of a large tissue sample.

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/...y-2447660.html

TUESDAY

2/13/2013

Title:

Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies

Author(s):

Ketchum, M. S., Wojtkiewicz, P. W., Watts, A. B., Spence, D. W., Holzenburg, A. K., Toler, D. G., Prychitko, T. M., Zhang, F., Bollinger, S., Shoulders, R., Smith, R. (2013)

New Research Paper Published Friday Shows Homo Sapiens/Unknown Hominin Hybrid Species Extant in North America

DALLAS, February 10th --A team of scientists will publish their five-year long study of DNA samples from a novel hominin species, commonly known as “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” on Friday February 15th, 2013. The results suggest that the legendary Sasquatch is extant in North America and is a human relative that arose approximately 13,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an novel primate species.

The study, “Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies,” was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology. The team, led by Dr. Melba Ketchum of DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, TX, included Dr. Pat Wojtkiecicz, Director of the North Louisiana Criminalistics Laboratory; Ms. Aliece Watts of Integrated Forensic Laboratories in Euless, TX; Mr. David Spence, Trace Evidence Supervisor at Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences; Dr. Andreas K. Holzenburg, Director of the Microscopy & Imaging Center at Texas A&M University; Dr. Douglas G. Toler of Huguley Pathology Consultants in Fort Worth, TX; Dr. Thomas M. Prychitko of Wayne State University in Michigan; Dr. Fan Zhang of the University of North Texas Health Science Center; and Sarah Bollinger, Ray Shoulders, and Ryan Smith of DNA Diagnostics.

In total, 110 specimens of purported Sasquatch hair, blood, skin, and other tissue types were analyzed for the study. Samples were submitted by individuals and groups at 34 different hominin research sites in 14 U.S. states and two Canadian provinces. Ketchum’s team sequenced 20 whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes, as well as 3 whole nuclear genomes, from the samples.

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) comes from mitochondria, energy-producing organelles in the cellular cytoplasm, and is passed down on the maternal lineage across generations. Nuclear DNA (nuDNA) is the genetic information contained in the cell nucleus and is the equal combination of DNA from the parents of an individual.

Initially a skeptic, Ketchum implemented strict protocols to ensure the scientific integrity of the study. DNA samples from submitters and scientists working with study specimens were obtained for use as controls. DNA was extracted from samples using forensic procedures to prevent contamination. Forensics experts examined the morphology of the submitted hair samples against known human and animal samples before beginning DNA testing. “We soon discovered that certain hair samples--which we would later identify as purported Sasquatch samples--had unique morphology distinguishing them from typical human and animal samples,” says Ketchum. “Those hair samples that could not be identified as known animal or human were subsequently screened using DNA testing, beginning with sequencing of mitochondrial DNA followed by sequencing nuclear DNA to determine where these individuals fit in the ‘tree of life.'”

After extensive forensic controls to prevent contamination, mtDNA testing of the Sasquatch samples yielded fully modern human profiles. Sixteen haplotypes indicating 100% homology with modern human mtDNA sequences were observed from 20 completed whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes. The human mtDNA results are consistent with prior, unrelated mtDNA tests of purported Sasquatch samples from other laboratories.

Next-generation whole genome sequencing with the HiSeq 2000 platform by Illumina was performed at the University of Texas, Southwestern on one tissue sample, a saliva sample and one blood sample to produce 3 whole genomes. In contrast to the mtDNA which was unambiguously modern human, the Sasquatch nuDNA results were a mosaic of novel primate and human sequence.

“While the three Sasquatch nuclear genomes aligned well with one another and showed significant homology to human chromosome 11 which is highly conserved in primates, the Sasquatch genomes were novel and fell well outside of known ancient hominin as well as ape sequences,” explains Ketchum. “Because some of the mtDNA haplogroups found in our Sasquatch samples originated as late as 13,000 years ago, we are hypothesizing that the Sasquatch are human hybrids, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.”

Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo.

Comment....We have their DNA, we now only lack the body. This was no slouch study, it should recieve scientific acceptance.

DeepCut
02-16-2013, 12:29 PM
Just imagine, those things, if they exist, may have been around for 17,000 years, watching us at war with each other. No wonder they are scared of being discovered.

I hope they are never found.


DC.

Garuda
02-23-2013, 06:49 PM
This case, with the DNA investigation, is getting some more attention, again. It's in this week's episode of Whitley Strieber's Dreamland:
http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/bigfoot-dna-deepening-mystery-staggering-possibilities

And Linda Moulton Howe also pays attention to the case, with an 'upcoming report'. To be continued!

norenrad
02-23-2013, 07:27 PM
I hope they are never found.

I agree, it's sad that humans are compelled to exploit everything they get their hands on.

CasperParks
02-23-2013, 07:57 PM
I agree, it's sad that humans are compelled to exploit everything they get their hands on.

Agree as well.

Bigfoot could be releated to Neanderthals.

Chris
10-03-2013, 03:41 PM
Here is the latest on Bigfoot DNA research (thanks to our friend Victor Martinez for finding this tidbit!):


By Kevin Dolak | ABC News Blogs (http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/) – Thursday, October 3, 2013

Bigfoot is real, and now at least one scientist claims there is proof.

A group of Sasquatch researchers who have been collecting over 100 pieces of evidence over the past five years screened "never before seen HD video" of the alleged creature at a news conference in Dallas on Tuesday.

The footage, which came from a similar effort dubbed The Erickson Project, led by Adrian Erickson, included what the group said was a sasquatch moving through wooded areas in Kentucky. Dr. Melba Ketchum, who has led the group of researchers called the Sasquatch Genome Project, has been working on a $500,000 analysis of DNA samples from an unknown hominin species. Ketchum calls the project "a serious study" that concludes the legendary Sasquatch exists in North America and is a human relative that arose
approximately 13,000 years ago.

"They're a type of people, they're a human-hybrid, we believe. And all of the DNA evidence points to that. And they can elude us, so if you get [footage] at all, it can be fleeting," Ketchum told ABC affiliate WFAA.

Ketchum, who was initially a skeptic, says she implemented strict protocols as DNA was extracted from the collected samples.

"We soon discovered that certain hair samples - which we would later identify as purported Sasquatch samples -- had unique morphology distinguishing them from typical human and animal samples," Ketchum said in February of the research.

"Those hair samples that could not be identified as known animal or human were subsequently screened using DNA testing, beginning with sequencing of mitochondrial DNA followed by sequencing nuclear DNA to determine where these individuals fit in the 'tree of life,'" she said.

In total, 111 specimens of purported Sasquatch hair, blood, skin, and other tissue types were analyzed for the Sasquatch Genome Project's study. The samples were submitted from 34 different hominin research sites in 14 U.S. states and two Canadian provinces.

At Tuesday's press conference, Dennis Pfoul, the group's project manager, showed footage of footprints of what he believes belongs to a Sasquatch in the snow in Colorado.

"We've all had experiences that have changed our lives, I mean, literally shook the foundation of what we believe in," Pfoul said at the news conference.

Funding for the Sasquatch Genome Project comes from Erikson and entrepreneur Wally Hersom, according to Ketchum. The Erikson Project has in the past teased footage of supposed Sasquatch sightings, notable in a November 2012 trailer for "Sasquatch: The Quest." Watch the trailer here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzdKF-OqD0#t=82)

Todd R. Disotell, a professor at the Department of Anthropology at New York University, told ABCNews.com that Ketchum's research is nonsense.

"It's just a joke," he said. "She is a laughing stock of people that are of a community that are already kind of wacko."

"This was not reported in any scientific way whatsoever. It's complete junk science, and then she misinterprets it. She hasn't published in peer-reviewed papers on this stuff. I don't know how this got put together," he said.

Disotell says that he has disproven samples from being what they're claimed to be many times, including debunking a yeti, a chupacabra, and a sasquatch eight times, including once on ScyFy's "Joe Rogan Questions Everything."

"You can't prove something doesn't exist," he said. "You can prove that every sample you're brought isn't what they're claiming, But you can't disprove this. It will go on forever. We'll always have it."

Dragonfire
10-18-2013, 02:04 PM
Here is one on the DNA testing of Yeti

A British scientist says he may have solved the mystery of the yeti — the elusive ape-like creature of the Himalayas. He thinks it's a bear.

DNA analysis conducted by Oxford University genetics professor Bryan Sykes suggests the creature is the descendant of an ancient polar bear.

Sykes compared DNA from hair samples taken from two Himalayan animals — identified by local people as yetis — to a database of animal genomes. He found they shared a genetic fingerprint with an ancient polar bear jawbone found in the Norwegian Arctic that is at least 40,000 years old.

Sykes said Thursday that the tests showed the creatures were not related to modern Himalayan bears but were direct descendants of the prehistoric animal.

He said, "it may be a new species, it may be a hybrid" between polar bears and brown bears.

"The next thing is go there and find one."

Sykes put out a call last year for museums, scientists and yeti aficionados to share hair samples thought to be from the creature.

One of the samples he analyzed came from an alleged Yeti mummy in the Indian region of Ladakh, at the Western edge of the Himalayas, and was taken by a French mountaineer who was shown the corpse 40 years ago.

The other was a single hair found a decade ago in Bhutan, 1,300 kilometres to the east.

Sykes said the fact the hair samples were found so far apart, and so recently, suggests the members of the species are still alive.

"I can't imagine we managed to get samples from the only two 'snow bears' in the Himalayas," he said.

Complete story here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/yeti-might-be-undiscovered-polar-bear-hybrid-scientist-says-1.2101120

CasperParks
01-14-2014, 12:51 AM
10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty: The Search Begins January 10 2013


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JhDEks8H_U

Published on Dec 4, 2013

Dean Cain leads professional "squatchers" and top-flight hunters to chase down visual and DNA evidence of Bigfoot, in pursuit of one of the largest cash prizes in television history. 10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty Premieres January 10 at 10/9c on SPIKE.

Did anyone see the episode?

CasperParks
01-14-2014, 12:57 AM
Bigfoot accused of stealing man's pizza.
:confused:


New story at Huffington Post: Bigfoot Is Wandering Michigan Man's Property And Eating Pizza, He Claims In Police Report (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/bigfoot-eats-pizza-michigan_n_4571245.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news)

It's a run-of-the-mill case: Man claims assailant vandalized his estate, requests assistance from law enforcement.

Only the accused, in this instance, is Bigfoot, who has allegedly been wandering around a Michigan property for more than a decade, shape-shifting and eating pizza.

On Saturday, a 52-year-old Breckendridge, Mich. man came to the Midland law enforcement center armed with evidence, including photo albums, empty food containers, dirt and alleged Bigfoot scat, to ask for help verifying the existence of the mythical creature, according to a report from the Midland County Sheriff's Office.

Click here to read more at Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/bigfoot-eats-pizza-michigan_n_4571245.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news)

Pandora'sParadox
02-24-2014, 10:51 PM
I chalked Bigfoot up to being a reference of a specific type of E.T. inhabiting Earth.

http://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/the-wadig/

Redbone
03-11-2014, 06:12 PM
I chalked Bigfoot up to being a reference of a specific type of E.T. inhabiting Earth.

http://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/the-wadig/


As one who has actually seen a Bigfoot, my first impression was that this is an intelligent being. The creature was completely aware of it's surroundings and made it's appearance at the exact moment when it would risk minimum exposure. I am not at all surprised at the DNA findings. As to how they came to exist, that will remain a mystery until which time we can ask one. Every Native American tribe in the America's has a legend based on this creature. Many of the legends go back tens of thousands of years. The Cherokee call themselves the "First People." Yet they refer to Tsul Kalu as the "Old Man of the Forest." They treat them with respect and give them a wide birth so not to offend them. They are believed to have mystical powers and can easily outsmart even the most expierenced trackers. It would be easy to see them as an Alien species or at least as genetically engineered by some unknown Alien race. It would explain how they can be so elusive, even in modern times.

majicbar
03-11-2014, 09:49 PM
I chalked Bigfoot up to being a reference of a specific type of E.T. inhabiting Earth.

http://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/the-wadig/The bigfoot DNA relates to ancient polar bear? Polar bears and apes are far apart in zoology, WTF, all reports say APE. If the DNA were right it would take alien manipulation of that DNA to bring out ape traits. Why not start out with ape DNA? Only more DNA samples will answer some important questions that are raised by this report.

Redbone
03-12-2014, 03:10 PM
“While the three Sasquatch nuclear genomes aligned well with one another and showed significant homology to human chromosome 11 which is highly conserved in primates, the Sasquatch genomes were novel and fell well outside of known ancient hominin as well as ape sequences,” explains Ketchum. “Because some of the mtDNA haplogroups found in our Sasquatch samples originated as late as 13,000 years ago, we are hypothesizing that the Sasquatch are human hybrids, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.”


This follows more in the line with Native American legends and belief. The Cherokee tell stories of the Tsul Kalu (Prince of the forest or Old man of the forest) living in well organized communities. They were recognized to be and treated as any other Native American Tribe by my early ancestors. There are stories of how the Cherokee and Bigfoot traded and communicated with each other at first, but Tsul Kalu had an eye for the young Cherokee maidens. It is not sure what exactly was the fate of the kidnapped women, but the Cherokee, like many other Native Tribes, learned to keep thier distance.
My point is, according to legend, they communicated, were hunter/gatherers, built permanent lodging, made fire and buried thier dead. This is not the behavior of a bear.