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    UFOs and Nuclear Sites

    Do Nuclear Facilities Attract UFOs? by Donald A Johnson, PhD

    The answer about whether nuclear facilities attract UFOs appears to be “yes.” There is an excess of 3,051 UFO reports for nuclear site counties above what would have been predicted based on the non-nuclear counties. For close encounters, there is an excess of 568 close encounter reports over what should have been expected based on other UFO reporting dynamics. [...]

    So we are left with a somewhat troubling finding. Apparently UFO reports do occur more frequently in the vicinity of nuclear sites, after controlling for population and the region of the country. Given that the motives of the intelligences behind UFOs, assuming that UFOs are intelligently controlled, are not well known, we should be concerned. Given the long history of UFO incursions at sensitive, highly-restricted nuclear facilities; and given that the events of September 11, 2001 have drawn attention to the vulnerability of nuclear power plants to terrorist acts, it would seem to behoove national security agencies to re-direct some attention to the issue of UFOs entering restricted air space over nuclear facilities. No matter how possibly benign the motives of the UFO occupants may be, were I the new Director of Homeland Security I would certainly be paying attention to this matter.
    It occurred to me, what if these UFOs are from the future after a cataclysm, and they're going back in time to check on where all the radioactive contamination originated? Meaning after the fall of civilization, these nuke plants and sites will decay and spread their radiation like Fukushima and Chernobyl have been doing. Of the few man-made things that can survive 10,000+ years and be noticeable to future civilizations, radioactive materials are near the top. Just a thought.

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    Robert hasting's has even read a book about it 'Ufos and nukes'
    Throughly researched book I'd recommend to anyone

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    Apologies above post should have said written not read. Someone who features in Robert Hastings landmark book is Robert Salas.

    This is a recent interview with him done by Open Minds following a lecture.
    http://www.openminds.tv/retired-usaf...perience-1190/

    More on the original site




    Retired USAF officer talks about aliens and nukes, the UFO cabal, and his abduction experience
    Posted by: Open Minds October 29, 2013 0 2760 Views

    By Sean Casteel and John Weigle

    Robert Salas (Credit: Sean Casteel)
    The time Robert Salas spent in the United States Air Force taught him many things about the UFO phenomenon. In a lecture he delivered at the September 14, 2013, meeting of the Close Encounter Research Organization International, held in Thousand Oaks, California, a city just north of Los Angeles, Salas explained just what he has learned in no uncertain terms.
    Salas’ lecture was entitled “The Complexity of Human Interactions with the UFO Phenomenon,” and he began by flatly declaring that craft controlled by extraterrestrial intelligences (ETI) are visiting us, are here for specific purposes, have been here for a long period of time, and have had complex interactions with humanity. In spite of the existence of a UFO Cabal that is hiding secrets about what’s happening to our planet and society, we are still in the process of becoming part of the “Cosmic Family.”.....

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    This is part of an article Combat Aircraft October this year....

    is this CIA top drone can fly Mach 10 and exit the atmosphere plus hover or a UFO.


    ‘UFO hunters'
    During the last 20 years, IRIAF Tomcats, and especially those of the 62nd TFS, have been scrambled to intercept foreign and unknown aircraft, especially those of coalition forces during Operation ‘Iraqi Freedom' in 2003. In some cases the Tomcats even engaged them, for example during the ‘Way to Jerusalem' war game on April 24, 1997. But the Tomcat's most important combat record in recent times began in 2004. When Iran's suspicious nuclear program was revealed to the public, Western nations, led by the US and Israel, warned it to abandon its nuclear activities. The US attempted to gather information concerning the activities at three important Iranian nuclear facilities: the reactor at Bushehr, an additional reactor in Arak and the fuel enrichment plant at Natanz. A number of reconnaissance UAVs were sent to collect intelligence to help prepare for a possible attack. Due to increased UAV overflights, the IRIAF HQ requested four F-4Es and four

    F-14As from the 61st and 62nd TFS at Bushehr to serve as QRA interceptors, 24 hours a day, every day during fall 2004. Meanwhile, four F-4Es from the 31st TFS and four F-14As from the 81st and 82nd TFS were also maintained on alert and were even flown at night under the command of a Boeing 707 command post and an ELINT/SIGINT-configured C-130H. Between them, these monitored local airspace from 20.00hrs to 06.00hrs. According to Iranian sources, the CIA 's intelligence drones displayed astonishing flight characteristics, including an ability to fly outside the atmosphere, attain a maximum cruise speed of Mach 10, and a minimum speed of zero, with the ability to hover over the target. Finally, these drones used powerful ECM that could jam enemy radars using very high levels of magnetic energy, disrupting navigation systems. These machines were spotted several times by IRIAF ground radar sites, ELINT aircraft and airborne command posts, and they even presented some problems for the IRIAF's routine night training flights in Bushehr. Because the intelligence drones created considerable light during their night photography work, they were dubbed ‘luminous objects' by Iranian government media. In several cases, IRIAF F-14s faced them but were unable to operate their armament systems properly. In one case over Arak in November 2004, the crew of an F-14A armed with two AIM-9Js and two AIM-7E-4s spotted a luminous object flying near the heavy water plant of the Arak site. When the beam of the jet's AN/AWG-9 radar ‘painted' the object, both the RIO and pilot saw that the radar scope was disrupted, probably due to the high magnetic energy of the object increasing the power of the reflected radar waves. The pilot described the object as being spherical, with something like a green

    afterburner creating a considerable amount of turbulence behind it. The Tomcat crew achieved a lock-on when it was flying a linear and constant flight path. Once the pilot selected an AIM-7E-4 to launch against it, the object increased its speed and then disappeared like a meteor. After similar attempts by F-4Es and F-14As in the Bushehr, Arak and Natanz areas, the IRIAF HQ ordered an end to the missions flown against the ‘luminous objects'. After two years of research on the objects' flight profiles and examination of remnants of a crashed example recovered in 2006 (in both Iran and then by experts in Russia), the Iranian Army specified that they were US intelligence drones. However, the government media in Iran has attempted to cover up all news of them. In 2004 and 2005, when the public spotted the objects near Arak, Ardebil and Sarab, they were described as the planet Venus! At around 04.20hrs on January 26, 2012, an Iranian Air Defense Command radar site near Bushehr identified an unknown aircraft flying towards the area. An F-14A was ordered to scramble. At 04.30hrs it took off from TFB.6, but seconds later the fighter exploded, killing both crew instantly. The reason for the incident remains a mystery, and the aircraft involved was one of the ‘fittest' IRIAF Tomcats, with the lowest flying hours in the fleet.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longeyes View Post
    This is part of an article Combat Aircraft October this year....

    is this CIA top drone can fly Mach 10 and exit the atmosphere plus hover or a UFO.


    ‘UFO hunters'
    During the last 20 years, IRIAF Tomcats, and especially those of the 62nd TFS, have been scrambled to intercept foreign and unknown aircraft, especially those of coalition forces during Operation ‘Iraqi Freedom' in 2003. In some cases the Tomcats even engaged them, for example during the ‘Way to Jerusalem' war game on April 24, 1997. But the Tomcat's most important combat record in recent times began in 2004. When Iran's suspicious nuclear program was revealed to the public, Western nations, led by the US and Israel, warned it to abandon its nuclear activities. The US attempted to gather information concerning the activities at three important Iranian nuclear facilities: the reactor at Bushehr, an additional reactor in Arak and the fuel enrichment plant at Natanz. A number of reconnaissance UAVs were sent to collect intelligence to help prepare for a possible attack. Due to increased UAV overflights, the IRIAF HQ requested four F-4Es and four

    F-14As from the 61st and 62nd TFS at Bushehr to serve as QRA interceptors, 24 hours a day, every day during fall 2004. Meanwhile, four F-4Es from the 31st TFS and four F-14As from the 81st and 82nd TFS were also maintained on alert and were even flown at night under the command of a Boeing 707 command post and an ELINT/SIGINT-configured C-130H. Between them, these monitored local airspace from 20.00hrs to 06.00hrs. According to Iranian sources, the CIA 's intelligence drones displayed astonishing flight characteristics, including an ability to fly outside the atmosphere, attain a maximum cruise speed of Mach 10, and a minimum speed of zero, with the ability to hover over the target. Finally, these drones used powerful ECM that could jam enemy radars using very high levels of magnetic energy, disrupting navigation systems. These machines were spotted several times by IRIAF ground radar sites, ELINT aircraft and airborne command posts, and they even presented some problems for the IRIAF's routine night training flights in Bushehr. Because the intelligence drones created considerable light during their night photography work, they were dubbed ‘luminous objects' by Iranian government media. In several cases, IRIAF F-14s faced them but were unable to operate their armament systems properly. In one case over Arak in November 2004, the crew of an F-14A armed with two AIM-9Js and two AIM-7E-4s spotted a luminous object flying near the heavy water plant of the Arak site. When the beam of the jet's AN/AWG-9 radar ‘painted' the object, both the RIO and pilot saw that the radar scope was disrupted, probably due to the high magnetic energy of the object increasing the power of the reflected radar waves. The pilot described the object as being spherical, with something like a green

    afterburner creating a considerable amount of turbulence behind it. The Tomcat crew achieved a lock-on when it was flying a linear and constant flight path. Once the pilot selected an AIM-7E-4 to launch against it, the object increased its speed and then disappeared like a meteor. After similar attempts by F-4Es and F-14As in the Bushehr, Arak and Natanz areas, the IRIAF HQ ordered an end to the missions flown against the ‘luminous objects'. After two years of research on the objects' flight profiles and examination of remnants of a crashed example recovered in 2006 (in both Iran and then by experts in Russia), the Iranian Army specified that they were US intelligence drones. However, the government media in Iran has attempted to cover up all news of them. In 2004 and 2005, when the public spotted the objects near Arak, Ardebil and Sarab, they were described as the planet Venus! At around 04.20hrs on January 26, 2012, an Iranian Air Defense Command radar site near Bushehr identified an unknown aircraft flying towards the area. An F-14A was ordered to scramble. At 04.30hrs it took off from TFB.6, but seconds later the fighter exploded, killing both crew instantly. The reason for the incident remains a mystery, and the aircraft involved was one of the ‘fittest' IRIAF Tomcats, with the lowest flying hours in the fleet.....
    How is it the Iranian's were sure that this was a CIA drone and not a UFO? Wouldn't we have to give the Iranian's some way of being able to identify it as not a UFO? I suspect that in the climate of anti U.S. and anti CIA attitudes by the Iranians even a genuine UFO would be labeled as a U. S. CIA drone.

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    They alledge to have shot one down and then they and the Russians have analysed it and found it was a Us drone.
    They may have shot down a regular us drone and equated the two.
    But is it possible that they have back engineered a UFO to that degree? By now possibly? Anything that can fly outside the atmosphere must have some kind anti gravity drive. You need air to generate lift and if you are using a propellant you need to piggy back it on rockets, just like the shuttle, satellites and bransons virgin galactic.
    Magnetic energy? ECM ? Never heard of magnetic energy magnetic field but energy? How do you overcome the massive amount of friction generated by going at Mach 10?

    Thing is though neither the Iranians or they guy who wrote the article will have read Hastings book

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    http://theaviationist.com/2013/11/04.../#.UoSkU-KPQ1I

    The F14 shot down in Jan 2012 seems to have been friendly fire:

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    Robert Hasting is making a documentary based on his book
    http://www.openminds.tv/ufos-nukes-a...ry-video/31084

    Robert Hastings, the author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, says he has amassed over 150 interviews with military veterans from both the US and USSR that have witnessed UFO events at nuclear weapons sites. In 2010, he brought several of these witnesses to the National Press Club in Washington D.C. to share their stories with the media. The event was streamed live by CNN. Now, Hastings wants to feature his research in a documentary, and he is asking for your help to complete it.

    You can watch and download the the full press conference at Archive.org.

    Hastings wrote on his website that the $100k budget for the documentary has been spent, and that he needs another $25k to finish it.

    I emailed Hastings some questions about the film and why he thinks the project is so important. He says his UFO research stands apart from the rest because, “I am the only researcher who has focused on this type of UFO activity. My data base of nukes-related UFO incidents far exceeds that of any other investigator. That will come through in the film.”....


    More on open minds

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    Robert Hasting was on Coast to Coast last week talking about his new film and a great new witness he's found

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/11/30

    He also needs money to help finish the documentary. Some generous donor gave him $100,000 to get it started he needs another $25,000 to get it finished.

    http://www.ufohastings.com/support

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    Interesting.
    This is what baffles me, that someone is willing to donate such a large amount of $ to such a cause that is deemed "false"
    i have also heard of MANY military persons having run ins with ET's around nuclear holding facilities.
    My most interesting tid-bit is the air-force actually gives you a # to call and report "these types of things"
    Do I have the MIB's phone number??? Lmfao

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