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    crazy dream

    A lot more happened that I don't remember.

    When I woke up I heard a clicking sound. Like the clicking of a clock, but not an even rhythm, like a stick tapping the nearby shelf, but IDK where it came from.. it was like 'tap, tap, tap- ...tap,tap-...-tap...tap, tap' (irregular rhythm for a few seconds, but very clear). I thought that it better not be aliens around or phantoms messing with my dreams. I almost wanted to go look out the window.

    Robert Bruce says that it is normal to hear weird sounds when coming in and going out of the normal-awake and astral states though. IDK. Whatever it was...

    I wish I remembered more of the details because other interesting stuff happened.

    I woke up at 3am wide awake after falling asleep exhausted at midnight. Back for a nap, hopefully I get to fly again!... (the next dream actually turned out to be pretty dark with normal, evil human things. I think that had more to do with my past traumas and psychological fears (there was someone I once knew), my mind sorting things out, not a lucid dream or astral experience...)

    But especially the flying part and talking to that man in the future, this felt like a milestone experience for me. It gave me hope for the future. I wonder if it will one day become normal for people to randomly talk to time-traveling astral 'Fliers' like that man did with me. Maybe we become psychic? These worlds were all richer and more colorful. This may all just be normal for astral/lucid dreaming experiences though. This 'dream' was no doubt colored by my own personal thoughts and emotions but was extremely cool!

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    While I can often detect when I'm dreaming I find that taking control of the dreams to be much more difficult. Also it seems that if I try to examine anything in great detail it doesn't work and things tend to keep changing on me. An example would be if I were to go go one direction and then turn around and head back I would not be able to arrive at my original starting point.

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    Not sure this qualifies as "lucid dreaming".
    Recently I've had a few strange dream related experiences.
    Maybe I'm just tired and have an over-active imagination, but this has been out of the ordinary for me.

    On 3 or 4 recent occasions, I have been sitting on the couch relaxing, maybe eating a snack, or watching a little television when I become very sleepy. This is in the middle of the day. I am NOT prone to naps, but I dozed, and awoke between 5 and 10 minutes later. What was unusual is that I was mid-dream.
    Now, let me say that my understanding is that dreams occur during REM sleep, and it normally take 30 or 40 minutes to reach that level/state. So vivid dreams after 5 or 10 minutes (clock on the wall) seems unusual to me.

    Anyway, in the dream I was taking care of business. VERY engrossed in talking with people and shuffling papers. Nothing weird.
    So then I wake up 5 minutes later, and the dream slips away.
    Half hour later, same thing happens again.
    When I awake, it felt as if I was urgently needed someplace else.
    Like a parallel life existed and I had been called away, by falling asleep, to go take care of pressing business.

    As I said this has happened 2 or 3 times recently. Twice on one day, and once or twice again the following day.
    Hope I'm explaining this right.
    Anyone else have similar experiences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Not sure this qualifies as "lucid dreaming".
    Recently I've had a few strange dream related experiences.
    Maybe I'm just tired and have an over-active imagination, but this has been out of the ordinary for me.

    On 3 or 4 recent occasions, I have been sitting on the couch relaxing, maybe eating a snack, or watching a little television when I become very sleepy. This is in the middle of the day. I am NOT prone to naps, but I dozed, and awoke between 5 and 10 minutes later. What was unusual is that I was mid-dream.
    Now, let me say that my understanding is that dreams occur during REM sleep, and it normally take 30 or 40 minutes to reach that level/state. So vivid dreams after 5 or 10 minutes (clock on the wall) seems unusual to me.

    Anyway, in the dream I was taking care of business. VERY engrossed in talking with people and shuffling papers. Nothing weird.
    So then I wake up 5 minutes later, and the dream slips away.
    Half hour later, same thing happens again.
    When I awake, it felt as if I was urgently needed someplace else.
    Like a parallel life existed and I had been called away, by falling asleep, to go take care of pressing business.

    As I said this has happened 2 or 3 times recently. Twice on one day, and once or twice again the following day.
    Hope I'm explaining this right.
    Anyone else have similar experiences?
    I have had similar experiences. Let me ask you when you were "dreaming" did you have a sense you were not fully asleep but you can tell that you are almost asleep? If so the images you may be seeing is not a dream at all but something else entirely different. I myself have postulated what I was seeing was perhaps me on another level of existence or parallel world. Or even perhaps some sort of bi-location event. You may even have been on the spirit/astral realm. However, you may have entered the deep stages of dreaming very quickly if you mind and body was that tired.

    Edward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    I have had similar experiences. Let me ask you when you were "dreaming" did you have a sense you were not fully asleep but you can tell that you are almost asleep? If so the images you may be seeing is not a dream at all but something else entirely different. I myself have postulated what I was seeing was perhaps me on another level of existence or parallel world. Or even perhaps some sort of bi-location event. You may even have been on the spirit/astral realm. However, you may have entered the deep stages of dreaming very quickly if you mind and body was that tired.

    Edward
    Fully asleep, until I was aware that I was waking up, and it felt like I was watching the guy at the desk (my dream self) shuffling papers, from an elevated vantage point. I also "knew" the guy shuffling papers was totally unaware of me watching him. Confusing to explain

    "bi-location event", maybe. Not sure how it could be proven?

    I've never heard of anyone falling asleep and immediately (within 5 minutes) enter a dream state. Seemed unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    I've never heard of anyone falling asleep and immediately (within 5 minutes) enter a dream state. Seemed unusual.
    I do it often ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garuda View Post
    I do it often ...

    as do I

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    Guess you should welcome me to the club.
    Seems as of last week, I do now as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Guess you should welcome me to the club.
    Seems as of last week, I do now as well.
    Welcome to the club then!

    I often have a siesta-nap of about 20 minutes. And in many of those I dream.
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    Wiki has some interesting information on REM Sleep.
    Some dreaming can take place during non-REM sleep. “Light sleepers” can experience dreaming during stage 2 non-REM sleep, whereas “deep sleepers”, upon awakening in the same stage, are more likely to report “thinking” but not “dreaming”.
    I'm guessing when they say "thinking", that would mean a lack of imagery?
    I never thought about if I was only "thinking" and not dreaming before. Oh boy, back to the confusing/tough to describe mode. But I do recall looking down at my dream self, so there must have been imagery involved during my recent experience.
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