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    The international treaty to which virtually every country in the world is a party to states that parties cannot appropriate any part of Space

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz4ZROe8oFM

    It sounds like outerspace/the space between... say the Earth and the Moon, as an example of that, is inclusive in this international treaty when talking about celestial bodies and who can claim them. It's saying that they belong to all nations and not just those ones who were there first... and this includes any part of 'outerspace' too.

    Excellent post on what Ivo was saying about He3 and it sure sounds like we need it here on Earth for nuclear power plants. We've had the technology to get to the moon since the late 60's so I'm wondering why we've been holding off on making trips back and forth to the moon for that gas. When you think about it, that's very unsettling.

    The law is only addressing space exploration and not exploitation for monetary gain of the celestial body's resources by any nation; let alone any private commercial conglomeration.


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    Here it is 7 earth sized planets orbiting s small star but three maybe in the sun's habital zone
    https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/n...planets-around

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    Thanks for that link. Do we currently have the technology to at least send signals to those 3 habitable planets in that system to see if we can get a response back from them?
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    This program sounds very promising in the search for extraterrestrial life.

    Breakthrough Initiatives
    is a program founded in 2015 and funded by Yuri Milner to search for extraterrestrial intelligence over a span of at least 10 years. The program is divided into multiple projects. Breakthrough Listen will comprise an effort to search over 1,000,000 stars for artificial radio or laser signals. A parallel project called Breakthrough Message is an effort to create a message "representative of humanity and planet Earth".[1] The project Breakthrough Starshot aims to send a swarm of probes to the nearest star at about 20% the speed of light.
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    They are going to be sending off nanoships into space too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A99 View Post

    The international treaty to which virtually every country in the world is a party to states that parties cannot appropriate any part of Space

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...#ixzz4ZROe8oFM

    It sounds like outerspace/the space between... say the Earth and the Moon, as an example of that, is inclusive in this international treaty when talking about celestial bodies and who can claim them. It's saying that they belong to all nations and not just those ones who were there first... and this includes any part of 'outerspace' too.

    Excellent post on what Ivo was saying about He3 and it sure sounds like we need it here on Earth for nuclear power plants. We've had the technology to get to the moon since the late 60's so I'm wondering why we've been holding off on making trips back and forth to the moon for that gas. When you think about it, that's very unsettling.

    The law is only addressing space exploration and not exploitation for monetary gain of the celestial body's resources by any nation; let alone any private commercial conglomeration.


    IMO, International Law effectively ends, once a party, state, or corporation, leaves earths atmosphere. So IF say Google or IBM has the ways and means to land on and exploit the moon (or space in between) than its their business! Maybe even claim a sovereign territory. In World History, similar events took place on the high seas and claims of lands abroad.

    Something like . . ."The Luna State of GOOGLE" . . .


    JMO
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    Well, if it's He3 that they are after, we don't have nuclear fusion power reactors/plants yet but soon we will. I think you're probably right... the company that can get back and forth to the moon and exploit its resources will end up owning the moon. The one that can successfully set that up first, can claim the moon as their own.
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    The company that will be the most successful at setting up a processing factory on the moon will probably be Bigelow Aerospace... they own MUFON/BAASS too but that's besides the point. Google and other companies may partner with them on this venture but Bigelow will be running the show. Since Bigelow Aerospace Inc is a major player in the Industrial/Military Complex... the gov't will be running things too. Which brings us back to where we are now with gov't suppression of information on UFOs and anything related to it. That will continue, as always. Bigelow Aerospace and the Federal gov't are two sides of the same coin.


    In February 2010, following the announcement of NASA's post-Augustine Commission plans to reorient human-to-orbit plans more in the direction of commercial launch providers, Robert Bigelow said "We as a company have lunar ambitions. ... and we also have Mars ambitions as well."[65] In April 2010, Bigelow suggested positioning a space station at Lagrangian point L1. He also said his proposed private Moon Base would consist of three BA 330s.[23]
    In March 2013,[28] Bigelow signed a contract with NASA to "look at ways for private ventures to contribute to human exploration missions, perhaps including construction of a moon base"[18] and to act as a clearinghouse with other commercial companies to extend commercial activity at conceptual lunar expeditionary bases in ways that are not a mainline part of NASA's current focus for human spaceflight, which is asteroid exploration missions.[28] The Bigelow report released later in 2013 identified "an uncertain regulatory environment as a major obstacle to commercial activities" on the moon.[66]
    In December 2014, the FAA Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST) completed a review of the proposed Bigelow lunar habitat, and indicated that "it was willing to use its authority to ensure Bigelow could carry out its [lunar] activities ... without interference from other [US] companies licensed by the FAA" [and that the FAA would] use its launch licensing authority, as best it can, to protect private sector assets on the Moon and to provide a safe environment for companies to conduct peaceful commercial activities without fear of harmful interference from other AST licensees."[66]
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    Quote Originally Posted by A99 View Post
    Well, if it's He3 that they are after, we don't have nuclear fusion power reactors/plants yet but soon we will. I think you're probably right... the company that can get back and forth to the moon and exploit its resources will end up owning the moon. The one that can successfully set that up first, can claim the moon as their own.
    We may not have commercial fusion reactors yet, but I believe there have been small scale government research reactors constructed, and currently a large international funded (multi-Billion$$) facility is under construction in Europe.
    Don't recall anticipated completion date, somewhere between 2020 and 2030.

    Once that fusion reactor comes on-line, a demand for fuel will exist.
    More than one fuel can be used, but as stated before, He-3 produces the least amount of damaging emissions during the fusion process.
    Making He-3 a high value commodity.
    And the race for lunar mining resources will be on.


    HE-3 Lunar Factory from the Sci-Fi movie "Iron Sky".
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    Thanks for pointing that out... If they start going to the moon to get that gas soon, they may also speed up the process to develop the commercial version so that it's up and ready to go in three years.
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