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    Question Emerging Surveillance State?

    From Washington Post:

    The faces of more than 120 million people are in searchable photo databases that state officials assembled to prevent driver’s-license fraud but that increasingly are used by police to identify suspects, accomplices and even innocent bystanders in a wide range of criminal investigations.

    The facial databases have grown rapidly in recent years and generally operate with few legal safeguards beyond the requirement that searches are conducted for “law enforcement purposes.” Amid rising concern about the National Security Agency’s high-tech surveillance aimed at foreigners, it is these state-level facial-recognition programs that more typically involve American citizens.

    The most widely used systems were honed on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq as soldiers sought to identify insurgents. The increasingly widespread deployment of the technology in the United States has helped police find murderers, bank robbers and drug dealers, many of whom leave behind images on surveillance videos or social-media sites that can be compared against official photo databases.

    But law enforcement use of such facial searches is blurring the traditional boundaries between criminal and non-criminal databases, putting images of people never arrested in what amount to perpetual digital lineups. The most advanced systems allow police to run searches from laptop computers in their patrol cars and offer access to the FBI and other federal authorities.

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    Evidence of emerging Police / Surveillance State?

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    Senior Member lycaeus's Avatar
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    I'd say so.

    There's something similar to that on facebook now. I uploaded some pictures and on the wall, in the background, there's a picture of Jimi Hendrix. The facebook computer cropped out and zoomed in on Jimi's face. It then asked me who it was and conveniently opened a preselected box for me to type a name into.

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    Haha, just wait until Google Glass is widespread, that'll open up a whole new level of this.

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    No not Goggle Glass! I can't even stand touchscreens because they don't have real buttons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuru View Post
    Haha, just wait until Google Glass is widespread, that'll open up a whole new level of this.
    NSA or something akin to it and big business tapping into Google Glasses may not be as far fetched as it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    NSA or something akin to it and big business tapping into Google Glasses may not be as far fetched as it seems.
    nsa operatives are the least corrupt of all the american agencies.

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    US Senate blocks attempt to stop FBI accessing Americans’ browsing history without a warrant
    By Andrew Naughtie

    An attempt to stop law enforcement agencies from accessing Americans’ internet histories without a warrant has failed in the US Senate – by a single vote.

    Introduced by Democratic senator Ron Wyden and Republican Steve Daines, the measure was an amendment to a bill reauthorising certain lapsed intelligence programmes. While that bill does introduce certain new privacy protections, including a restriction on how cell phone data may be used, many civil libertarians both inside and outside Congress are concerned that it does not do enough to keep Americans safe from excessive surveillance, especially in their online lives.
    Speaking on the Senate floor, Mr Wyden put the case to his colleagues that the government’s power to gain access to browsing and search history should be curtailed, reminding them that during the current pandemic, tens of millions of Americans staying at home are using the internet more than ever as their only connection to the outside world – including for very private personal reasons that they should be entitled to keep to themselves.

    “Collecting this information is as close to reading minds as surveillance can get,” said Mr Wyden on the floor. “It is digital mining of the personal lives of the American people … without this bipartisan amendment, it is open season on anybody’s most personal information.”

    The amendment needed 60 votes to pass, but in the end, only 59 senators backed it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lycaeus View Post
    I'd say so.

    There's something similar to that on facebook now. I uploaded some pictures and on the wall, in the background, there's a picture of Jimi Hendrix. The facebook computer cropped out and zoomed in on Jimi's face. It then asked me who it was and conveniently opened a preselected box for me to type a name into.
    That is not a good sign!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lycaeus View Post
    I'd say so.

    There's something similar to that on facebook now. I uploaded some pictures and on the wall, in the background, there's a picture of Jimi Hendrix. The facebook computer cropped out and zoomed in on Jimi's face. It then asked me who it was and conveniently opened a preselected box for me to type a name into.
    It is interesting it didn't recognize the Hendrix photo. Was his photo/image not added into the facial recognition system, and or that it was originally an old school film photo before being transferred to digital? Likely the first one, not added into the system.
    Last edited by CasperParks; 06-18-2013 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    Evidence of emerging Police / Surveillance State?
    Once established these programs seem to always grow, never shrink. A line was crossed when we upped surveillance after 9/11. The renewal of these measures that were supposed to sunset a few years ago was crossing another line. Restoring privacy is going to take a lot of protest and hard work.

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