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    ALCU reports, March 13th 2019: Documents Reveal ICE Using Driver Location Data From Local Police for Deportations. Click here to read article.

    Over the years in this thread, the development and rolling-out of government "license plate readers / scanners" was discussed. It is now a reality...

    The article mentioned that one system "Vigilant contains over Five Billion license plate scans nationwide", and referenced as a " Nationwide Mass-Surveillance Dragnet".

    Illegal immigration, terrorists, and criminals are used to justify "Mass-Surveillance".

    Although H.R.4760 - Securing America's Future Act of 2018 was defeated in 2018, it was tabled for a later vote. More-than-likely it will be rebranded and voted on again.

    The other day, I was at a gas station. Person in front of me was buying cigarettes, and the cashier had to scan his driver license at the register. Was that scan entered into a data base?

    People use electronic debt cards to pay for most everything, creating a record of what was bought. Is a cashless society is on the horizon?

    Food for thought: Drive to church, work, store, doctor's office... GPS within cellphones tracks it. In route to the locations license plate readers scan and record movement. Facial Recognition cameras on the streets, at airports and ports of entry. Cameras at stores, the work place and schools records and tracks people. Tech Giants are recording internet behavior of individuals. Companies are now implanting RFID bio-chips into employees' hands.

    Massive Surveillance is a reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    ALCU reports, March 13th 2019: Documents Reveal ICE Using Driver Location Data From Local Police for Deportations. Click here to read article.

    Over the years in this thread, the development and rolling-out of government "license plate readers / scanners" was discussed. It is now a reality...

    The article mentioned that one system "Vigilant contains over Five Billion license plate scans nationwide", and referenced as a " Nationwide Mass-Surveillance Dragnet".

    Illegal immigration, terrorists, and criminals are used to justify "Mass-Surveillance".

    Although H.R.4760 - Securing America's Future Act of 2018 was defeated in 2018, it was tabled for a later vote. More-than-likely it will be rebranded and voted on again.

    The other day, I was at a gas station. Person in front of me was buying cigarettes, and the cashier had to scan his driver license at the register. Was that scan entered into a data base?

    People use electronic debt cards to pay for most everything, creating a record of what was bought. Is a cashless society is on the horizon?

    Food for thought: Drive to church, work, store, doctor's office... GPS within cellphones tracks it. In route to the locations license plate readers scan and record movement. Facial Recognition cameras on the streets, at airports and ports of entry. Cameras at stores, the work place and schools records and tracks people. Tech Giants are recording internet behavior of individuals. Companies are now implanting RFID bio-chips into employees' hands.

    Massive Surveillance is a reality.
    Our town has Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR) at every major intersection leading into/out of the city.
    "They" know when you arrive/leave town.
    Local PD also has cruisers, with trunk mounted ALPR units, that can drive up and down your street logging info, like what time your car is parked in your driveway, and when it is gone. Some controversy recently about car covers obscuring vehicle's license, interfering with ALPR.

    Interesting that the town buys the equipment, and stores the data into a local police department database.
    There is then some options (agency policy) about IF all the data is voluntarily shared with the manufacturer, or other LEO agencies (like ICE, Sheriff, Highway Patrol, etc.) vs requiring a warrant for specific vehicle information.
    Here in California, each agency is required by state law to publish the policy on their website (compliance currently being monitored/audited).
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    If you're visiting this site for the first time, this is one of many threads worth surfing through. Over the years, there has been a lot of information posted within this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Our town has Automated License Plate Readers (ALPR) at every major intersection leading into/out of the city.
    "They" know when you arrive/leave town.

    Local PD also has cruisers, with trunk mounted ALPR units, that can drive up and down your street logging info, like what time your car is parked in your driveway, and when it is gone. Some controversy recently about car covers obscuring vehicle's license, interfering with ALPR.

    Interesting that the town buys the equipment, and stores the data into a local police department database.

    There is then some options (agency policy) about IF all the data is voluntarily shared with the manufacturer, or other LEO agencies (like ICE, Sheriff, Highway Patrol, etc.) vs requiring a warrant for specific vehicle information.

    Here in California, each agency is required by state law to publish the policy on their website (compliance currently being monitored/audited).
    All the sharing of information regarding individuals, sounds like a marriage between corporations, local, state and federal agencies.

    I wonder how long, if not already that cellphone GPS, Facial Recognition and Automated License Plate Readers databases are interlinked... And or all the information is transmitted to central databases.

    How many local, state and federal governments are subcontracting corporations to process and store data? Then calm; "No the government doesn't own Massive Surveillance Databases" and having full access to it.

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