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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    ☣️��⚠️ USA Today, a mainstream media outlet reported that police and businesses to start "pinging cellphones" from a distance to identify people.

    Click here to read article at USA Today: Mobile driver’s license will allow police to ‘ping’ cellphones in Delaware pilot study...

    What about the 4th Amendment?

    Citizen, "They're taking away our gun rights!"

    Republican Politician, "The Democrats are doing that."

    Citizen, "They're taking away our right to privacy!"

    Democrat Politician, "The Republicans are doing that."

    With the same long term goal they bounce it back and forth, eroding our freedoms as individuals.

    As long as they keep citizens divided, they are winning.
    Wow, that ought make identity theft just that much easier!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    ☣️��⚠️ USA Today, a mainstream media outlet reported that police and businesses to start "pinging cellphones" from a distance to identify people.

    Click here to read article at USA Today: Mobile driver’s license will allow police to ‘ping’ cellphones in Delaware pilot study...

    What about the 4th Amendment?

    Citizen, "They're taking away our gun rights!"

    Republican Politician, "The Democrats are doing that."

    Citizen, "They're taking away our right to privacy!"

    Democrat Politician, "The Republicans are doing that."

    With the same long term goal they bounce it back and forth, eroding our freedoms as individuals.

    As long as they keep citizens divided, they are winning.
    Quote Originally Posted by epo333 View Post
    Wow, that ought make identity theft just that much easier!!!
    Encountered a very twisted news story early this week... A health organization is going into remote areas of Africa and starting a Bio-metric Identification Program. They are using finger prints and telling everyone it is for better access to healthcare. It was both watch a video and read article news story... I will try and locate the link...
    Last edited by CasperParks; 03-17-2018 at 06:46 AM.

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    Click here for CNN: How biometrics is giving identities to 'invisible citizens'

    Bio-metric Identification Program is using finger prints, and they're telling everyone it is for better access to healthcare.

    It is a watch video and read article news story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    Click here for CNN: How biometrics is giving identities to 'invisible citizens'

    Bio-metric Identification Program is using finger prints, and they're telling everyone it is for better access to healthcare.

    It is a watch video and read article news story...

    Now this is downright spooky! I can't tell you how much I dislike this fake "channel".

    Here's a clip from their promotion video:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H1D...ew?usp=sharing


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    Bad enough we have to fight to keep the government out of our private data. Now we find Facebook has partners that don't mind violating policy (sharing data without permission) to gain a political edge.

    Facebook, Cambridge Analytica and data mining: What you need to know
    The world's largest social network is at the center of an international scandal involving voter data, the 2016 US presidential election and Brexit.
    by Ian Sherr

    Consultants working for Donald Trump's presidential campaign exploited the personal Facebook data of millions.

    That's the key message in March 17 stories by The New York Times and the UK's Guardian and Observer newspapers, as well as in statements from Facebook. The stories and statements indicate the social networking giant was duped by researchers, who reportedly gained access to the data of more than 50 million Facebook users, which was then misused for political ads during the 2016 US presidential election.

    Until now, most of what you've heard about Facebook and the 2016 election has been focused on meddling by Russian operatives. Those efforts are being investigated by the FBI and the US Senate.

    Data consultancy Cambridge Analytica represents a different problem. The UK-based company reportedly acquired data about millions of Facebook users in a way that violated the social network's policies. It then tapped that information to build psychographic profiles of users and their friends, which were utilized for targeted political ads in the UK's Brexit referendum campaign, as well as by Trump's team during the 2016 US election.

    Facebook says it told Cambridge Analytica to delete the data, but also that reports suggest the info wasn't destroyed. Cambridge Analytica says it complies with the social network's rules, only receives data "obtained legally and fairly," and did wipe out the data Facebook is worried about.

    Here's what you need to know.

    What is Cambridge Analytica?

    Cambridge Analytica is a UK-based data analytics firm, whose parent company is Strategic Communication Laboratories. Cambridge Analytica helps political campaigns reach potential voters online. The firm combines data from multiple sources, including online information and polling, to build "profiles" of voters. The company then uses computer programs to predict voter behavior, which then could be influenced through specialized advertisements aimed at the voters.

    Cambridge Analytica isn't working with a small amount of user data either. The company says it has "5,000 data points on over 230 million American voters" -- or pretty much all of us, considering there are an estimated 250 million people of voting age in the US.

    The company has since faced criticism for what executives, including what CEO Alexander Nix, said in a series of undercover videos shot by the UK's Channel 4. In the videos, he discussed lies and seeming blackmail he'd perform as part of his efforts to sway elections.

    "We have lots of history of things," Nix said in the videos, "I'm just giving you examples of what can be done and what, what has been done."

    Nix has since been suspended from his job as CEO. His comments "do not represent the values or operations of the firm and his suspension reflects the seriousness with which we view this violation," the company said in a statement.
    What did Cambridge Analytica do?

    Facebook said in a statement late on Friday, March 16, that Cambridge Analytica received user data from Aleksandr Kogan, a lecturer at the University of Cambridge. Kogan reportedly created an app called "thisisyourdigitallife" that ostensibly offered personality predictions to users while calling itself a research tool for psychologists.

    The app asked users to log in using their Facebook account. As part of the login process, it asked for access to users' Facebook profiles, locations, what they liked on the service, and importantly, their friends' data as well.

    The problem, Facebook says, is that Kogan then sent this user data to Cambridge Analytica without user permission, something that's against the social network's rules.

    "Although Kogan gained access to this information in a legitimate way and through the proper channels that governed all developers on Facebook at that time, he did not subsequently abide by our rules," Paul Grewal, a vice president and general counsel at Facebook, said in a statement.

    Kogan didn't respond to requests for comment. The New York Times said he cited nondisclosure agreements and declined to provide details about what happened, saying his personality prediction program was "a very standard vanilla Facebook app."

    What does this have to do with Trump?

    The Trump campaign hired Cambridge Analytica to run data operations during the 2016 election. Steve Bannon, who eventually became Trump's chief strategist, was also reportedly vice president of Cambridge Analytica's board. The company helped the campaign identify voters to target with ads, and gave advice on how best to focus its approach, such as where to make campaign stops. It also helped with strategic communication, like what to say in speeches.
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    Absolutely terrifying, how can you rebel against a system like that? Any desenters or people who want to change things those in power are doing is eradicated before they even step out the door.
    All the need to do is put an AI in charge ?!?
    Just let people be free.

    Anyone see this awesome Black Mirror episode where they have a society based on social media scores ‘Nosedive’? It was brilliant
    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5497778/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longeyes View Post
    Absolutely terrifying, how can you rebel against a system like that? Any desenters or people who want to change things those in power are doing is eradicated before they even step out the door.
    All the need to do is put an AI in charge ?!?
    Just let people be free.

    Anyone see this awesome Black Mirror episode where they have a society based on social media scores ‘Nosedive’? It was brilliant
    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5497778/
    Did not watch Nosedive... I did watch Black Mirror Arkangel.


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    Nice to have a serial killer/rapist off the streets. But at what cost?
    Isn't it odd that the government can't keep a searchable database of innocent people, only persons that have either been convicted of a felony or given consent.
    And here we have an unnamed Private Company with thousands (if not millions) of paying customer's DNA profiles who were subjected to a police fishing expedition, to determine if they MIGHT be related to a criminal suspect.
    I imagine that is not exactly what the customers had in mind when they mailed off a swap to trace the family tree.
    IMHO innocent people are being subjected to an unreasonable search of personal records.


    How private is your DNA on ancestry websites? East Area Rapist case raises questions

    Without knowing it, Americans may be helping law enforcement crack difficult cases.
    By Dale Kasler and Anita Chabria

    Millions of Americans are doing it - packing up samples of their saliva and mailing it off to an online genealogy company to analyze their DNA and help trace their family tree.

    Without knowing it, they may be helping law enforcement crack difficult cases.

    A partial DNA match with an unidentified relative of Joseph James DeAngelo on a genealogy website led to DeAngelo’s arrest as the suspect in the notorious East Area Rapist case, the Sacramento County District Attorney’s Office said Thursday.

    Investigators recently found a “familial DNA match” to a sample collected years ago at a crime scene linked to the East Area Rapist. The family link then led the Sheriff’s Department to DeAngelo’s home on a quiet middle-class street in Citrus Heights, where they obtained a direct DNA sample from him after following him and picking up an unidentified object he discarded, according to Sheriff Scott Jones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Nice to have a serial killer/rapist off the streets. But at what cost?
    Isn't it odd that the government can't keep a searchable database of innocent people, only persons that have either been convicted of a felony or given consent.
    And here we have an unnamed Private Company with thousands (if not millions) of paying customer's DNA profiles who were subjected to a police fishing expedition, to determine if they MIGHT be related to a criminal suspect.
    I imagine that is not exactly what the customers had in mind when they mailed off a swap to trace the family tree.
    IMHO innocent people are being subjected to an unreasonable search of personal records.


    How private is your DNA on ancestry websites? East Area Rapist case raises questions

    Without knowing it, Americans may be helping law enforcement crack difficult cases.
    By Dale Kasler and Anita Chabria

    Millions of Americans are doing it - packing up samples of their saliva and mailing it off to an online genealogy company to analyze their DNA and help trace their family tree.

    Without knowing it, they may be helping law enforcement crack difficult cases.

    A partial DNA match with an unidentified relative of Joseph James DeAngelo on a genealogy website led to DeAngelo’s arrest as the suspect in the notorious East Area Rapist case, the Sacramento County District Attorney’s Office said Thursday.

    Investigators recently found a “familial DNA match” to a sample collected years ago at a crime scene linked to the East Area Rapist. The family link then led the Sheriff’s Department to DeAngelo’s home on a quiet middle-class street in Citrus Heights, where they obtained a direct DNA sample from him after following him and picking up an unidentified object he discarded, according to Sheriff Scott Jones.
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    I believe that in the near future, the push for a "National DNA Database" will emerge.

    Within the United States, many people are finger printed at birth and provide finger prints when getting a State ID or driver licenses.

    The Marshall Project has the following article "Framed For Murder By His Own DNA". It examined how one man was almost convicted of a crime he did not commit by his own DNA. It turned out, his DNA was transferred by ambulance paramedics to the crime scene... Worth reading the article, click here...

    Discovering and tracking down that it was touch DNA transfer took a lot of effort and work.

    How many people having a "public defender" will get the attention required to examine the possibilities of how their client's DNA was at a crime scene?

    Prisoners within the US Justice System often refer to "Public Defenders" as "Public Pretenders".

    In many regions Public Defenders are overworked, underpaid and lack resources needed for cases.

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