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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    End of Net Neutrality in the United States is part of the Police and Surveillance State.

    Murdering Net Neutrality allows corrupt politicians and corporations to control the flow of information and stifles free speech.

    Killing Net Neutrality places access to websites like The Outpost Forum in jeopardy.
    All of these potential situations are unfortunately looming before us. Any control over the Internet is a blow to free speech and therefore liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    End of Net Neutrality in the United States is part of the Police and Surveillance State.

    Murdering Net Neutrality allows corrupt politicians and corporations to control the flow of information and stifles free speech.

    Killing Net Neutrality places access to websites like The Outpost Forum in jeopardy.
    Certainly a complex topic.
    On the one hand it is understandable a bandwidth vendor would resent having their data pipe clogged by the likes of Netflix without some form of recompense.
    But on the other hand, once a two tiered pricing/performance system is implemented, who is to say what data streams get delegated to substandard feeds.
    Also, I'd like to think the influx of cash would fund a build out of network infrastructure. But what would prevent the vendor from simply pocketing the cash as simple profits?
    As I said, complex/multi-faceted issues indeed.
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    Difficult to tell all the players without a score card. I'm here to sort it out for you, best I can with the pubic info available.
    1) So a naturalized citizen named Pho was working for the NSA in the HIGHLY secretive NSA TAO unit.
    2) Against protocol, he takes Cyberweapons home to work on.
    3) He is running Kaspersky Anti-Virus, which detects the cyberweapons and reports a case of malicious-software back to Mother-Ship (Kaspersky in mother-Russia).
    4) Weirdness. Israel is monitoring the Kasperspy data stream, intercepts the NSA Cyberweapon signature as it is being transmitted to Kaspersky, and alerts USA/NSA.
    5) NSA has Pho arrested and charged with various Cybercrimes.
    6) Similar Cyberweapons appear on the dark web provided by the mysterious "Shadow Brokers" (Russian connection suspected), resulting in several successful worldwide Ransomeware attacks (Wannacry, etc).
    7) Kaspersky disavows retention/forwarding of the info to Russian authorities, but as a precaution the US Government has (prior to this act) stopped using the Kaspersky Anti-Virus product. No doubt costing the company BIG $$$

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    For those frequent readers, you may recall a post I made some months ago warning that Kaspersky's ToS was overly intrusive for the Mobile Phone Anti-Virus App. Seem the same problem exists for the desktop app.
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    The whole affair is worrisome. Why is Israel intercepting a corporate data stream? HOW did they recognize the signature of a US NSA TOP SECRET cyber-weapon? The USA shares such info? Guess it could happen, would not have been my first guess.

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    Former NSA employee pleads guilty to taking sensitive information
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    By Tammy Kupperman and Ralph Ellis
    A former National Security Agency employee pleaded guilty Friday to taking sensitive national defense information from his workplace and storing it at his residence.
    Nghia Hoang Pho, 67, of Ellicott City, Maryland, had been charged with willful retention of national defense information. He faces up to 10 years in prison.
    From 2010 to 2015, he took top secret information in digital and paper formats from his workplace to his home, a news release from the Department of Justice said.
    Pho had worked on highly classified projects and was employed from 2006 as a Tailored Access Operations (TAO) developer for the NSA, the news release said.
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    Here is basically the signed plea agreement of Nghia Hoang Pho.

    https://cryptome.org/2017/12/pho-001-009.pdf

    Whew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Difficult to tell all the players without a score card. I'm here to sort it out for you, best I can with the pubic info available.
    1) So a naturalized citizen named Pho was working for the NSA in the HIGHLY secretive NSA TAO unit.
    2) Against protocol, he takes Cyberweapons home to work on.
    3) He is running Kaspersky Anti-Virus, which detects the cyberweapons and reports a case of malicious-software back to Mother-Ship (Kaspersky in mother-Russia).
    4) Weirdness. Israel is monitoring the Kasperspy data stream, intercepts the NSA Cyberweapon signature as it is being transmitted to Kaspersky, and alerts USA/NSA.
    5) NSA has Pho arrested and charged with various Cybercrimes.
    6) Similar Cyberweapons appear on the dark web provided by the mysterious "Shadow Brokers" (Russian connection suspected), resulting in several successful worldwide Ransomeware attacks (Wannacry, etc).
    7) Kaspersky disavows retention/forwarding of the info to Russian authorities, but as a precaution the US Government has (prior to this act) stopped using the Kaspersky Anti-Virus product. No doubt costing the company BIG $$$

    .
    For those frequent readers, you may recall a post I made some months ago warning that Kaspersky's ToS was overly intrusive for the Mobile Phone Anti-Virus App. Seem the same problem exists for the desktop app.
    .
    The whole affair is worrisome. Why is Israel intercepting a corporate data stream? HOW did they recognize the signature of a US NSA TOP SECRET cyber-weapon? The USA shares such info? Guess it could happen, would not have been my first guess.

    .

    Former NSA employee pleads guilty to taking sensitive information
    .

    By Tammy Kupperman and Ralph Ellis
    A former National Security Agency employee pleaded guilty Friday to taking sensitive national defense information from his workplace and storing it at his residence.
    Nghia Hoang Pho, 67, of Ellicott City, Maryland, had been charged with willful retention of national defense information. He faces up to 10 years in prison.
    From 2010 to 2015, he took top secret information in digital and paper formats from his workplace to his home, a news release from the Department of Justice said.
    Pho had worked on highly classified projects and was employed from 2006 as a Tailored Access Operations (TAO) developer for the NSA, the news release said.
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    Lot of crazy stuff happening right now. Across the planet, things are intensifying.

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    I am not sure if this link will work for everyone, I hope it will as this is a most excellent interview here conducted by Regina Meredith and Daniel Sheehan where he explains in great depth how the US population in particular has been manipulated over the past 70 years - gripping!

    From Gaia Television:

    https://give.gaia.com/cjbohho7p009k01m78vu1a1ab
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    Hard to believe after the Snowden revelations, that US elected officials don't recognize public sentiment.

    Trump signs bill renewing NSA's internet surveillance program
    By Dustin Volz

    U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said he signed into law a bill renewing the National Security Agency’s warrantless internet surveillance program, sealing a defeat for digital privacy advocates.

    “Just signed 702 Bill to reauthorize foreign intelligence collection,” Trump wrote on Twitter, referring to legislation passed by the U.S. Congress that extends Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

    The law renews for six years and with minimal changes the National Security Agency (NSA) program, which gathers information from foreigners overseas but incidentally collects an unknown amount of communications belonging to Americans.

    The measure easily passed the U.S. House of Representatives last week despite mixed signals posted on Twitter by Trump and narrowly avoided a filibuster in the Senate earlier this week that split party lines. The measure had drawn opposition from a coalition of privacy-minded Democrats and libertarian Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Hard to believe after the Snowden revelations, that US elected officials don't recognize public sentiment.
    I think they recognize "public sentiment" and don't care... And that people feel as if they don't have a say in the matter...

    It is not only "foreign intelligence collection" that is collected and monitored, I suspect they doing it to everyone.

    Corporations are collecting, monitoring, storing and selling people's personal data. When requested, it is likely that corporations handover that data to governments.
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    May need to double check a few setting on my phone. Starting to think the EU has the right idea with their privacy laws. Have to take a closer look, maybe need some of their legal ideas implemented over here in the USA.
    It is a bit of a concern when Google pops up and asks if I'd like to take a few photos for upload of Macy's Department Store as I'm standing in the checkout.


    If you’re using an Android phone, Google may be tracking every move you make.
    Written by David Yanofsky

    Biking? Google probably knows you are. Up a mountain? It probably knows that, too.

    The Alphabet subsidiary’s location-hungry tentacles are quietly lurking behind some of the most innovative features of its Android mobile operating system. Once those tentacles latch on, phones using Android begin silently transmitting data back to the servers of Google, including everything from GPS coordinates to nearby wifi networks, barometric pressure, and even a guess at the phone-holder’s current activity. Although the product behind those transmissions is opt-in, for Android users it can be hard to avoid and even harder to understand. Opting in is also required to use several of Android’s marquee features.

    As a result, Google holds more extensive data on Android users than some ever realize. That data can be used by the company to sell targeted advertising and to track into stores those consumers who saw ads on their phone or computer urging them to visit.1 This also means governments and courts can request the detailed data on an individual’s whereabouts.

    While you’ve probably never heard of it, “Location History” is a longtime Google product with origins in the now-defunct Google Latitude. (Launched in 2009, that app allowed users to constantly broadcast their location to friends.) Today, Location History is used to power features like traffic predictions and restaurant recommendations. While it is not enabled on an Android phone by default—or even suggested to be turned on when setting up a new phone—activating Location History is subtly baked into setup for apps like Google Maps, Photos, the Google Assistant, and the primary Google app. In testing multiple phones, Quartz found that none of those apps use the same language to describe what happens when Location History is enabled, and none explicitly indicate that activation will allow every Google app, not just the one seeking permission, to access Location History data.

    Quartz was able to capture transmissions of Location History information on three phones from different manufacturers, running various recent versions of Android. To accomplish this, we created a portable internet-connected wifi network that could eavesdrop and forward all of the transmissions that the devices connected to it broadcast and received.
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    ☣️📱⚠️ USA Today, a mainstream media outlet reported that police and businesses to start "pinging cellphones" from a distance to identify people.

    Click here to read article at USA Today: Mobile driver’s license will allow police to ‘ping’ cellphones in Delaware pilot study...

    What about the 4th Amendment?

    Citizen, "They're taking away our gun rights!"

    Republican Politician, "The Democrats are doing that."

    Citizen, "They're taking away our right to privacy!"

    Democrat Politician, "The Republicans are doing that."

    With the same long term goal they bounce it back and forth, eroding our freedoms as individuals.

    As long as they keep citizens divided, they are winning.

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