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    Looks like Apple folded on their recent promise to encrypt data backups to iCloud. Also reads info on your iPhone is only protected ON your iPhone (hint; better to backup to your own computer's encrypted hard drive). Anything you have backed up to iCloud is willingly served up the LE. Under threat of future legislation banning encryption, Apple dropped plans to encrypt data streams to/from iCloud. Interesting that it took two years for the story to break, all along Apple portraying themselves as the great defender of user information.

    Exclusive: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained - sources
    By Joseph Menn

    Apple Inc (AAPL.O) dropped plans to let iPhone users fully encrypt backups of their devices in the company’s iCloud service after the FBI complained that the move would harm investigations, six sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

    The tech giant’s reversal, about two years ago, has not previously been reported. It shows how much Apple has been willing to help U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies, despite taking a harder line in high-profile legal disputes with the government and casting itself as a defender of its customers’ information.

    The long-running tug of war between investigators’ concerns about security and tech companies’ desire for user privacy moved back into the public spotlight last week, as U.S. Attorney General William Barr took the rare step of publicly calling on Apple to unlock two iPhones used by a Saudi Air Force officer who shot dead three Americans at a Pensacola, Florida naval base last month.
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    Geofence Warrants

    Geofence Warrents cast a broad net that tracks mobile devices near the scene of a crime. Innocent people are caught in the net, and from time to time are falsely accused of the crime.

    That saying "If your innocent you have nothing to worry about is wrong."

    Many people cannot afford legal costs and have a court appointed attorney. Many Court Appointed Attorneys have large workloads, hence they're unable to properly defend people. Often, innocent people accept a "plea bargain" to avoid the risk of a longer jail or prison sentence.

    NBC News Article about Geofence Warrants, click here: Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That made him a suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    Geofence Warrants

    Geofence Warrents cast a broad net that tracks mobile devices near the scene of a crime. Innocent people are caught in the net, and from time to time are falsely accused of the crime.

    That saying "If your innocent you have nothing to worry about is wrong."

    Many people cannot afford legal costs and have a court appointed attorney. Many Court Appointed Attorneys have large workloads, hence they're unable to properly defend people. Often, innocent people accept a "plea bargain" to avoid the risk of a longer jail or prison sentence.

    NBC News Article about Geofence Warrants, click here: Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That made him a suspect.
    Touchy subject.
    Nice of Google to notify the guy.
    I think the real shame is that a judge would grant the initial warrant. It amounts to a fishing epedition.
    But once the investigators received the data, they had what is known as "reasonable suspecion" to proceed in obtaining the suspects identity.
    The crime victims expect the Police to do a good job investigating. What they get paid for. Using all tools at their disposal.
    IMHO, I think the Judge may have overstepped, depending on legal preceident evidence obtained may not even be admissable.
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    Political reports: DOJ seeks new emergency powers amid coronavirus pandemic.

    One of the requests to Congress would allow the department to petition a judge to indefinitely detain someone during an emergency.

    Rolling Stone reports: DOJ Wants to Suspend Certain Constitutional Rights During Coronavirus Emergency.

    The Department of Justice has secretly asked Congress for the ability to detain arrested people “indefinitely” in addition to other powers that one expert called “terrifying”.
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    Police and Surveillance States are hand-and-hand.

    This thread often tracks in the Top Ten at the Forum. This thread was started years ago, and a lot of water has passed under the bridge.

    The amount of information shared is mind-boggling.

    It is documentation of rapidly changing societies. Changes to Constitutions and current laws, and new laws are blips on the News Cycle. Often, it doesn't grab the public's attention.

    It isn't only the United States. Police and Surveillance States are a global issue...
    Last edited by CasperParks; 03-22-2020 at 02:58 PM.

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    Locally they have suspended courtroom activity for all but the most important cases.
    Most courtrooms are empty.
    The jail (not prison) is packed.
    No COVID-19 in there yet.

    There is talk of reducing BAIL to zero for non-violent offenders.
    Release of prisoners with only a few months left on their sentence.
    And a few other measured responses.
    All to provide relief for the jailhouse population.
    Some talk of suspending Habeas corpus, since there are no courtrooms to process the prisoners.
    Not an ideal situation, but so far not exactly Martial Law either.
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