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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    Remember that selfie craze?
    It prodded people to upload their images to the internet.



    CBS News reports:
    Nearly half of Americans in facial recognition databases / Law enforcement increasing use of facial recognition technology.

    Notice how "fear porn" is used: Capture criminals, find and stop terrorists.
    Appears the government is using driver licenses, State IDs, internet images and so-on to build a massive data base.

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    My brother in law installed the power cables to the facial recognition cameras that operate in the international terminal of the Honolulu airport. It's been in use for the past several years.

    It's no coincidence that high profile arrests often take place there.
    A few years ago, warnings regarding "Trapwire" floated around the internet - including a number of videos.

    To blind facial recognition cameras, there are videos suggesting a hat with LED lights and applying paint style make-up on the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    Remember that selfie craze?
    It prodded people to upload their images to the internet.



    CBS News reports:
    Nearly half of Americans in facial recognition databases / Law enforcement increasing use of facial recognition technology.




    Notice how "fear porn" is used: Capture criminals, find and stop terrorists.
    Appears the government is using driver licenses, State IDs, internet images and so-on to build a massive data base.

    Closest major airport to me is located next door to a large Security Camera company called Pelco.
    I recall being forced by Air Port Security to stand on X marks the spot for a quick facial recognition scan (my first encounter).
    This was prior to the 9/11 event and felt very intrusive.
    My best guess at the time was Pelco Beta test.
    If I didn't like it, NO ENTRY to boarding area.
    So, the simple (non-criminal) act of flying commercial likely resulted in me ending up in an e-mugshot book. Creepy.
    I remember thinking, "I'm not a criminal, why are they treating me like one?"
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    Video is regarding a "Temporary Tattoo" for health reasons.

    How far away is a "Permanent Tattoo" of this nature?

    Could a "Permanent Tattoo" hold banking information, ID information, health records and so-on?

    The "temporary electronic tattoo" is integrated into an adhesive. How long until "integrated into the skin"?

    If these type of "Electronic Tattoos" become public: Will insurance companies, medical providers, banks, employers and stores boycott anyone refusing it?

    Will it become the only "accepted form of identification"?

    A type of electronic identification is on the horizon.

    If not a bio-chip or electronic tattoo, it could be something we haven't seen yet.
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    President Obama was asked yesterday if he'd pardon Snowdon.
    He said No, he could not because Snowden has not yet been be judged.
    Sounds a bit disingenuous considering President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, and he wasn't even impeached.
    Guess we got an answer, even if the justification made no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    President Obama was asked yesterday if he'd pardon Snowdon.
    He said No, he could not because Snowden has not yet been be judged.
    Sounds a bit disingenuous considering President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, and he wasn't even impeached.
    Guess we got an answer, even if the justification made no sense.
    I wonder if Obama is able to grant Snowden immunity? If possible, I doubt Obama would do it.

    I am concerned that next year, Russia will deport Snowden to the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    I wonder if Obama is able to grant Snowden immunity? If possible, I doubt Obama would do it.

    I am concerned that next year, Russia will deport Snowden to the United States.
    Well, Putin and PEOTUS seem to be buddies/on good terms. I wouldn't say deportation of Mr. Snowden is an impossible scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoknows View Post
    I've been keeping an eye on UK and EU regarding Massive Surveillance. It is of concern....

    I am worried the United States will grant Massive Surveillance abilities for State and local law enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasperParks View Post
    I've been keeping an eye on UK and EU regarding Massive Surveillance. It is of concern....

    I am worried the United States will grant Massive Surveillance abilities for State and local law enforcement.
    Sadly it is probably Only a matter of time before Cyberweapons trickle down to local L.E. I can see it now, Malware/Spyware courtesy of your local Sheriff

    Meanwhile, disturbing story in today's local newspaper. "There’s a new watcher overhead: Sheriff’s office flies drone with video camera".

    Currently Cali Law states helicopters cannot fly below 500feet, and the area under the eaves of a home are considered private areas immune to surveillance (home owners have a reasonable expectation of privacy). Guessing that is going to change.

    FAA rules state drones cannot fly above 400 feet. First L.E. drone in our region. I suspect a Whole new set of rules coming our way.
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    "Data and location tracking with Corporate Big Brother" slaps me in the face.

    For the past few years, I've used a Motorola Rambler flip cell phone that has a quirky keypad. It was six to seven years old.

    At one point it was able take photos, videos, surf web and send messages to email addresses. However, due to current technology of cell phone networks those functions worked only on the phone. Surfing the web, emails, sending photos and videos from the phone became impossible. On Jan 4th, 2016 roughly 8:30PM I had a "possible" UFO sighting near my mother's home. Didn't bother grabbing the phone to photograph it, no point. Was not able to send it to my email address to share on the internet... It was long past due for an upgraded cell phone.

    Samsung J7 went-on sale, good price $129.00 plus a case and I was using a new phone for under $158.00... Has most of the goodies... WiFi and Bluetooth are nice... Most of the apps I will never use.

    I've been fully aware of the "data and location tracking" newer cell phones do. Most apps appear tied into Google or whatever, and must "grant permission" and "shared data becomes part of your usage plan".

    Even voicemail set-up is different than my old phone, now the cellular provider wants access to my contact list.

    "Grant Permission" to "share data and location tracking" is a slap in the face.

    Here I sit, next morning debating returning the new cell phone. Old phone closed and slipped into the pocket - no worries. The J7 is to large for easy into the pocket. And that "Corporate Big Brother" spying on me is unnerving.

    If I did return it, would likely consider buying a Samsung 10.1 tablet - then again, I'd likely be back into the "Data and location tracking with Corporate Big Brother".

    At the time of this posting, I sit at my PC and wear Skull Candy Bluetooth headphones, listening to music videos on that J7 cell phone via WiFi.

    I understand if on the road and need a map to help me along, data sharing and location is nice. On and off as needed it is useful.

    What a shame that better technology pushes for "data and location tracking" with Corporate Big Brother. It really doesn't need to be that way...

    Seriously, it doesn't need be that way... I always feared that staying unplugged meant using low-tech. Now, that reality has slapped me in the face. At what point do I draw the line and say no? At what point does staying low-tech harm my ability to intermittently function with others, make a living, to gather information, stay informed, learn, listen to music and watch videos?

    At what point is it "Becoming as they are - a hive mind?"

    Closing notation, Garuda informed me that there is a way to shut off data and location tracking. It will take time to figure it out...
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