Massive Underwater Entrance Discovered

[epo333]

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A massive underwater entrance has been discovered off the Malibu, CA coast at Point Dume which appears to be the Holy Grail of UFO/USO researchers that have been looking for it over the last 40 years. The plateau structure is 1.35 miles x 2.45 miles wide, 6.66 miles from land and the entrance between the support pillars is 2745 feet wide and 630 feet tall. It also has what looks like a total nuclear bomb proof ceiling that is 500 feet thick. The discovery was made by Maxwell, Dale Romero and Jimmy Church, host of FADE to BLACK on the Dark Matter Radio Network on Monday, May 12th 2014 and announced on Facebook, Twitter and Church’s radio program the following day. The underwater base has been a mystery for many years with hundreds of UFO/USO sightings…many with photographs…but the entrance of the base has remained elusive…until now. The entrance can support nuclear sized submarines and massive UFO/USO activity and allow access to different military installations that are inside the US such as the China Lake Naval Base that is in the middle of the Mojave desert and the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne, NV between Las Vegas and Reno. In the photographs you can see its relation to the coastline, Los Angeles and its natural surroundings which to not match up with the structure itself…which is massive in scale.

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In the photographs you can see its relation to the coastline, Los Angeles and its natural surroundings which to not match up with the structure itself…which is massive in scale. The support pillars to the entrance are over 600 feet tall. Malibu, California, is known the world over for its scenic beauty and as the playground of the rich and famous. Few people know that it is also the land of UFOs.

A bit more at the link...


http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/...t-2469318.html

[majicbar]

Delusional. As a cartographer I know how these maps are made, this is an artifact of the map making process, it is not real. This does the work of the debunkers for them. The creditability of the whole subject is dependant on the facts being presented, being true. When we get sloppy, the truth becomes burried in all the garbage.

[Garuda]

As a rule of thumb: never, ever, trust anything that appears on 'before it's news' only.

They're not interested in facts. They're interested in page views because that's how they make they're money.

[Charlie Prime]

Interesting. It would be cool if some rich guy sent a petroleum industry ROV there to photograph this formation.

It's unfortunate, but http://beforeitsnews.com is a totally unreliable source of information. They have posted many, many frauds, hoaxes, and disinformations in the past.

[Doc]

This story is related to the stories of an ancient race living under the Panamint Mountains and their silver ships that went on sea and air. The underwater passage is said to go from the Pacific Cost to the mountains and elsewhere. There is supposed to be a cave entrance in the southern Panamint Range. That was not far from my home and I had plans to go search for it as a hobby when I retired but health and impassable roads put that off for the foreseeable future. There is only a little in print about this, which I'll find and summarize/link later on.

[CasperParks]

This story is related to the stories of an ancient race living under the Panamint Mountains and their silver ships that went on sea and air. The underwater passage is said to go from the Pacific Cost to the mountains and elsewhere. There is supposed to be a cave entrance in the southern Panamint Range. That was not far from my home and I had plans to go search for it as a hobby when I retired but health and impassable roads put that off for the foreseeable future. There is only a little in print about this, which I'll find and summarize/link later on.

It's a tad far south of Mt. Shasta. Haven't hear much about Mt. Shasta over the past number of years.

[newyorklily]

Something has been sending signals from off the coast of Sweden. Many think it is a Russian submarine but Russia denies that any are missing. As far as I know, the source still hasn't been found. Where is it?

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/20..._r=0&referrer=

[aquila]

cavern

[Doc]

WildMage: Thanks for posting the Panamint and Hav-Musuv information, which is what I was referring to back then. It is the entrance to the Hav-Musuv tunnel/cavern that is rumored to be in the Southern Panamints. I had made a couple of "surveys" of the area to get oriented for a serious effort to see if it could be found. The first time we went out there we ran into a Jeep club that was coming out of the canyon entrance--they were turning back because the road which used to be maintained had become impassible through floods and neglect due to lack of funding. As a result I went and bought Jeep that wouldn't have to turn back from anything in the desert--then my health took a dive and I had to put my plan for exploration on hold.

(BTW, the Thresher is not the submarine in the story. The Russian K129 was the object of the Glomar Explorer search. There is a mention of which US Submarine went through the subterranean passage to the Panamints and I will find it. I don't recall the submarine being lost as part of the story.)

[WildMage]

I do recall, seeing a special on how Howard Hughes recover the submarine. Some scheme about mining the seafloor. Howard Hughes was in the middle of a lot things back then.

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http://www.pe.com/articles/robidoux-...riverside.html


San Bernardino Caves

Kokoweef Caverns
SWORN STATEMENT OF E. P. DORR.

Below you will find a transcription of the sworn statement made by Earl Dorr as it pertained to Kokoweef Caverns. This was published in the California Mining Journal, November 1940, though written in 1934.

It is speculated that Earl was attempting to get capital at the time for his projects in the area.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

This is to certify that there is located in San Bernardino County, California, about two hundred and fifty miles from Los Angeles, a certain cave.

Traveling over state highways by automobile, the cave is reached in about ten hours.

A Civil Engineer, Mr. Morton, and I spent four days exploring the cave for more than eight miles. We carried with us Altimeters, Pedometers, and a Theodolite, with which to observe and record actual directions, take elevations and measurements by triangulation. Our exploration revealed the following facts:

1. From the mouth of the cave we descended as shown by the Altimeters to be about 2000 feet, where we encountered a canyon, which from the Altimeters and by calculations we found to be from 3000 to 3500 feet deeper; making total depth of 5400 feet from the mouth where we entered the caves to the floor of the canyon.

2. We found the cave divided into many caverns or chambers, of various sizes, all filled and embellished with Stalactites and Stalagmites, besides many grotesque and fantastic shapes that make these caves one of the wonders of the world.


3. The largest chamber we explored is about 300 ft. wide, 400 feet long and from 50 to 110 feet high. It is encrusted with crystals, fashioned into festoons of innumerable Stalactites, that hang from the ceiling, some of which are extremely large.

One, the largest seen, is 27 feet in diameter and hangs 1510 feet down into a 3000 ft. canyon. This great Stalactite is perpetually washed by water flowing down over it and falling into the dark canyon depths. The huge glistening white crystal is 500 feet longer than the Eiffel Tower, and challenged us with amazement and wonder.

4. There is a flowing river on the floor of the canyon, which rises and falls with tidal regularity. All measurements and estimates of the river, including its tides and beach sands were reckoned by triangulation, taken with the Theodolite, and while we did not reach the river, nevertheless, taking observations with our theodolite and its telescope, we reckoned the river to be about 300 feet wide at high tide and 10 feet wide at low tide. It rises and falls from 7 ? to 8 feet. The Peysert brothers confirm our reckoning.

5. When the tide is out, there is exposed on both sides of the river from 100 to 159 feet of black sand, which the Peysert brothers report is very rich in placer gold. They report the sands on the river shore to be from 4 to 11 feet deep; and on an average about 8 feet deep.

6. There are numerous ledges above the canyon that are from 10 to 40 feet wide and covered with sand. We personally explored the ledge sands for a distance of more than eight miles, finding little variation in the depth and width of these ledge sands. And wherever examined,the ledge sands are found to be fabulously rich in placergold.

7. I have known intimately Oliver, Buck and George Peysert From my boyhood. I have discussed these caves with them repeatedly and thoroughly. They have reported to me in detail, their experience in exploring the caves.

One of them, George, lost his life in the cave. Buck and Oliver say George was killed by diving in the river on the floor of the canyon.

He struck an unseen rock, which killed him instantly. They have reported to me repeatedly their mining experiences and say they mined on the beach sands of the river a total in all of six weeks.

They carried lumber down to the river and constructed a sluice box and, using a pump, the three mined for six weeks, during which time they recovered more than %57,000 in gold, (gold at $20.00 per ounce); they sent their gold directly to the U.S. Mint and banked the returns in a bank in Needles, California, and another bank in Las Vegas, Nevada.

I last talked to them in my home about November 10th 1934, at which time they repeated their former statements, giving information as to how they discovered the river, and more of their experiences in gold mining. They recovered several of the largest nuggets of gold ever found in California.

Both Mr. Morton and myself filled our pockets with the sands from the ledges, carried it out and had it assayed. Just what Mr. Morton's sand assayed, I do not know, but it was approximately $2000. per ton.

I carried out ten pounds and two ounces of the ledge sand, and panned seven pounds, recovering more than $7.00 in gold, with gold at $20.00 an ounce. I sold the gold for $18.00 per ounce.

The balance of my ten pounds of sand I sent to John Herman, a Los Angeles Assayer. His assay certificate shows a value of $2,144.47 per yard - gold at $20.67 per ounce.

I, E. P. DORR residing at 300 Aldena Street, Pasadena California make the foregoing statements for the purpose of inducing investors to invest in the work of mining the gold in these caves, and solemnly swear that all statements made hereinabove are true and that all persons will find the physical conditions in the cave as above stated.

SUBSCRIBED and sworn to this ___day of December, 1934.

Source:E Adventure Net <-- http://www.e-adventure.net/land/caving/epdorr.html / or / --OOPARTS: http://www.s8int.com/giants9.html

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Devil's Hole

Devil's Hole is a 10 x 20 meter limestone sinkhole in the upper end of Death Valley National Park. It is flooded to within 15 meters of the surface of the surrounding ground. The depth is currently unknown. People have described the water as rising and falling with the tide. It could not be connected to the Pacific Ocean as it would flood the area. However it may be connected to an underground sea or more likely to and underground river. A river changes height and flow rate constantly which could explain this variation.

There is another entrance to this water body that has been closed by the Park Service. Reason being the disapperance of two boys who were snorkling in the cave. It is alleged that they sealed that entrance shut. The Devil's Hole entrance is still open although now it is fenced off and entry is restricted because of the Pup fish found in Devil's Hole.

NEVADA, PAHRUMP - NW of Pahrump [which lies due west from Las Vegas] is Devil's Hole National Monument, an annex of Death Valley National Monument. It is an apparently "bottomless" aqua-cave containing a species of cave fish located no where else in the world. Like the legendary "subterranean grand canyon" -- which reportedly runs beneath the Kokoweef and Dorr Peaks near the SW flank of the Ivanpah Mts. just south of highway 91 and NW of Needles, California -- the Devil's Hole water level ALSO reportedly rises and falls with the tide, suggesting a connection with a massive underground sea below and upstream, possibly in the area of eastern Nevada and western Utah. At least 2 boys disappeared trying to explore Devil's Hole, and Navy scuba divers were lowered on cables and reported seeing a large subterranean river which roared up from below, flowed across a wide expanse although they could not estimate the depth because of a myriad of colonnades of black rock through which the river flowed, before plunging once again down an abyss. This reportedly occurred in a cave NEAR Devil's Hole.

Another legend regards two divers who were lost in Devil's Hole. Allegedly a diving tank having the serial number of one of the divers was found floating months later in the Bay of Cortez near Baja, California. In reviewing the U.S. Park Service historical file on Devil's Hole (ACC # 1240, DEVA # 44646) there was reference to this event, but the diving tank find was not mentioned. (It may be that this was not reported to the park service since it allegedly occurred months later than the dive.)

The June 23, 1965 Reno Evening Gazette , reported that professional diver Jim Houtz descended to 315 feet looking for the two lost divers but found no sign of them. Houtz stated that: " … Devil's Hole has an unknown source of water; perhaps an underground river." "The source of water could be limitless."

http://www.in-the-desert.com/rivers.html