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    Question Building or space-craft on Mars?

    Video is an alleged image from Mars orbit that shows a space-craft or building on surface of the planet.



    Has this been debunked?

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    Looks interesting, indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garuda View Post
    Looks interesting, indeed!
    http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m13_...8/M1800558.jpg

    Original data with object toward the top of frame, the video shows it rotated 180 degrees. When one carefully examines the "object" it appears to be an illusion. The image is from nearly directly above, yet when the video shows it, it has the illusion of being seen obliquely, like a crashed saucer with it edge on into Mars, but then it does not show a shadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majicbar View Post
    http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m13_...8/M1800558.jpg

    Original data with object toward the top of frame, the video shows it rotated 180 degrees. When one carefully examines the "object" it appears to be an illusion. The image is from nearly directly above, yet when the video shows it, it has the illusion of being seen obliquely, like a crashed saucer with it edge on into Mars, but then it does not show a shadow.
    Are there any original NASA photos from this area that are available to the public?
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    Quote Originally Posted by newyorklily View Post
    Are there any original NASA photos from this area that are available to the public?
    This link directly takes you to the Malin/JPL site and the image I linked is the original, it comes in map projected and radiometrically corrected but not map projected jpegs, and gif's.

    http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m13_.../M1800558.html Release date: 4 April 2001

    See also ASU site: http://viewer.mars.asu.edu/planetview/inst/moc/M1800558
    Last edited by majicbar; 06-01-2015 at 06:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majicbar View Post
    http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m13_...8/M1800558.jpg

    Original data with object toward the top of frame, the video shows it rotated 180 degrees. When one carefully examines the "object" it appears to be an illusion. The image is from nearly directly above, yet when the video shows it, it has the illusion of being seen obliquely, like a crashed saucer with it edge on into Mars, but then it does not show a shadow.

    I finally found some time to put this together and I want to support what Majicbar posted. Good work Majicbar!



    The photo: http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m13_...8/M1800558.jpg





    If given the photo and asked to find the object… it is not an easy task since the object blends well into the background.



    Taking a look at the Martian surface in this area, there are a number of features which are helpful when identifying features on the surface. The first feature is the large crater in the upper right section of the photo. The topography of the crater shows us where the Sun is located, so that we may identify light and shadow. Notice, the floor of the crater contains “sand dunes.” As dust storms blow across lower areas (like craters and across the narrow width of the valley), some of the “sand” will drop out of the atmosphere and rest on these “low areas.” When the blowing wind follows the valley or depression, dunes will be formed (which looks like waves traveling down the valley).



    This is the object in question (in the center of the red box). Without rotating the photo, or enhancing the color of the area of the object, it is not so startling or convincing as to being a crashed saucer or a building. Let’s look closer:



    The object does not show any topography as being an actual structure (it does not cast a shadow… as in being an upright standing object or building).



    I have traced where the “sand dunes” actually overlay the area of the object in question, which means the object is not as "tall" as the dunes themselves. Compare this to the other photo above.


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    Last edited by Marvin; 07-06-2015 at 01:25 PM.


    Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting...

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    Thanks to everyone for weighing in on this one.

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