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    Legal implications of ET encounters

    A very interesting article on the subject was published here:

    Babak Shakouri Hassanabadi, "Legal implications of an encounter with extraterrestrial intelligence," in The Space Review, 15 June 2015, http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2770/1

    Michael Salla wrote a commentary on the article, which can be found here:

    Michael Salla, "Extraterrestrial contact: international law and crimes against humanity," in The Examiner, 20 June 2015, http://www.examiner.com/article/extr...ainst-humanity
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    Good read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwaihir57 View Post
    Good read.
    I thought so, too.
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    Speaking of ET and the legal system, I wonder if any Experiencer has a civil judgment for pain and suffering against ET for trauma suffered during abduction/examination?

    Would a government treaty of tech exchange for test subjects hold up as immunity?
    Talk about your crimes against humanity.

    Apologies in advance. Hope this isn't to OT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Speaking of ET and the legal system, I wonder if any Experiencer has a civil judgment for pain and suffering against ET for trauma suffered during abduction/examination?

    Would a government treaty of tech exchange for test subjects hold up as immunity?
    Talk about your crimes against humanity.

    Apologies in advance. Hope this isn't to OT.


    Just finished both articles.
    Very interesting read.
    Looks like my second ??? was addressed.
    Sounds like such a treaty would be upheld. Historical Slavery agreements were used as a precedent. Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Speaking of ET and the legal system, I wonder if any Experiencer has a civil judgment for pain and suffering against ET for trauma suffered during abduction/examination?

    Would a government treaty of tech exchange for test subjects hold up as immunity?
    Talk about your crimes against humanity.

    Apologies in advance. Hope this isn't to OT.
    Not an "Over the Top" question.

    It raises an entire series of issues.

    Public and political reaction. What type of Fallout would occur?

    What type of secret treaties are already in play? Is there something within it that renders action against aliens for abductions void?

    A lot of depends on when, how and why Disclosure occurred.

    Examiner article points out:

    If extraterrestrials land in New York City for example, then the laws of the Empire State and U.S. Federal laws would apply. In 1969, NASA passed a federal regulation dealing with 'Extra-terrestrial Exposure'. The “Extraterrestrial Exposure Law” offers a legal precedent for the detention and indefinite imprisonment of any individual who comes into contact with extraterrestrials. Presumably extraterrestrials themselves could also be detained and quarantined under this little known NASA regulation that while officially withdrawn, created a legal precedent for its future use.
    I agree with the article regarding that retracted law. The law created a legal precedent for future use. A number of laws are passed in the dead of night, going unnoticed. Difficult to say what is on the books at this time. Are former adbuctees a danger to themselves and others?
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    Here is a good question. What happens under said laws that a government, or person's not bringing said information to the United nations and making its own treaties with out the general knowledge of the General assembly of United nations or the speaker?

    I can imagine nothing good for those who purposely violated the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    Here is a good question. What happens under said laws that a government, or person's not bringing said information to the United nations and making its own treaties with out the general knowledge of the General assembly of United nations or the speaker?

    I can imagine nothing good for those who purposely violated the law.

    Edward
    At this point in time, vast majority of those who had originally violated the law are dead or nearing it. That begs the question regarding those who continue doing-so. National Security will likely be raised. Also, it is rumored the US had second thoughts and backed out of agreements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward View Post
    Here is a good question. What happens under said laws that a government, or person's not bringing said information to the United nations and making its own treaties with out the general knowledge of the General assembly of United nations or the speaker?

    I can imagine nothing good for those who purposely violated the law.

    Edward
    At present there is no regulation in effect that creates an obligation to involve the United Nations. It is only a proposal by one of the offices of the UN, and by SETI, but that's all it is: a proposal. There are no laws, yet. And even within the proposal, there are no sanctions for member states or individuals that do not report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garuda View Post
    A very interesting article on the subject was published here:

    Babak Shakouri Hassanabadi, "Legal implications of an encounter with extraterrestrial intelligence," in The Space Review, 15 June 2015, http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2770/1

    Michael Salla wrote a commentary on the article, which can be found here:

    Michael Salla, "Extraterrestrial contact: international law and crimes against humanity," in The Examiner, 20 June 2015, http://www.examiner.com/article/extr...ainst-humanity
    UPDATE: On 27 June, one week after the article was published, Michael Salla's article was removed from The Examiner, and he was removed as an author.

    A copy can still be found at http://exopolitics.org/extraterrestr...inst-humanity/
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