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    New whistleblower US Navy processed 1000's UFO Files

    This could be very good news

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/...endlesham-case

    Whistleblower about to 'lift lid on 1000s of UFO files' is GENUINE, says ex-MoD man
    A FORMER US Naval officer who claims his secrecy agreement with the American Government has expired is vowing to lift the lid on thousands of top-secret UFO files he claims to have seen...

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    Yes Very interesting indeed. Let's hope this is true and that more and more people come out and start talking about what they know.

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    This is an interesting one.

    While I very much hope this person is on the level, it is unique that an E4 from an NAS telecommunications facility would have access to the top-level traffic. It is possible (I was a supervisor while an E4 but didn't have vault access), but fairly uncommon.

    As for personally delivering classified material, unless those civilian contractors had a highly secured comm channel, with Navy Crypto, this would have been done via classified courier (a job I did often), and that is a way to gain access to material but the most sensitive files are usually 'sealed' and would require the courier to individually open them to be read.
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    This is the mufon report it comes from
    http://mufoncms.com/cgi-bin/report_h...&id=74474&rnd=

    I was a Radioman 3rd class petty officer at Naval Telecommunications Center within NAS Moffett Field from Feb 86' to Oct 89' having maintained a TS SBI/ESI NATO/SIOP Compartmental Security Clearance. I was required to deliver TS Code word designation COSMIC to SRI, ESL/SYLVANIA, LOCKHEED SKUNKWORKS, TRW, RATHEON, BERKELEY LABS, LAWRENCE LIVERMORE LABS, and other think tanks throughout Silicon valley. In addition we had a GS11 employee who was transferred from a Joint U.S. U.K. Communication station north of London after working at that site for a dozen years. He said it was an NSA/UK facility tasked with tracking UFO including Rendalsham Forest Incident. He said that UFO/ET were real and that hopefully disclosure would happen in my lifetime since he was in his early 60s at the time. I'm not reporting a UFO sighting rather a UFO related experience. I have copies of my security clearances.

    I personally handled, viewed and delivered thousands of documents involving UFO/ET Projects. My secrecy agreement with the U.S. Government expired in Oct 2014. At this point in my life I would like to share my knowledge in hopes that someone will be able to use it effectively towards disclosure.

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    Thank you Longeyes, I couldn't find it on the MUFON site as I was looking for an article or news story.

    It's quite a story.

    At every Naval communication station & center I've worked in, highly classified material handling required an E-6/7 or above at all times. Before a highly classified message was received, a warning message would be received just prior informing us that a highly classified message was coming in and requiring the appropriately ranked NCO to confirm their rank before the message was sent from the other end.

    A blind would then be placed over the printer and the print-out would only be glanced at to confirm it printed correctly, logged in by the unclassified header, classification stamped then sealed. The point I'm trying to make is that it's not all that easy to see the 'good' stuff.

    Only if one has access to a private location (or the clearance & need-to-know) can one peruse highly classified information. After the Walker scandal, all highly classified information required the presence of two persons during transmission, transfer, receipt or destruction which is also logged. So unless you really, really trusted your opposite, you were too scared to violate "OPSEC" (operational security) as you knew they'd throw you in a hole for (most of) the rest of your life.

    Generally speaking, that's the higher-ranked NCO's & officers, cryptographic technicians and intelligence specialists but not (usually) a radioman never mind an E4.

    I'm not saying he is lying, perhaps they did it differently at NAS's, however, it is IMO, highly unusual for an RM3 to have access to that (undoubtedly) extremely high-level of classified material.
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    Great it's really good to have the inside track on this stuff Wansen thanks.

    The Express writer says Roger Marsh will be doing a proper follow up on it. He puts his articles on Openminds TV's website
    http://www.openminds.tv/author/roger

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    Thanks again Longeyes, I want to keep up on this one, I appreciate the link.

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    I agree, this looks like one to keep an eye on.

    The source claims he was a "Radioman 3rd class petty officer at Naval Telecommunications Center within NAS Moffett Field from Feb 86' to Oct 89'."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petty_officer_third_class
    http://www.militarymuseum.org/NASMoffettFld.html

    He says he held the following security clearances: "TS SBI/ESI NATO/SIOP" (Top Secret, Single Scope Background Investigation / Extremely Sensitive Information, North Atlantic Treaty Organisation / Single Integrated Operational Plan)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_access_program
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...learance_terms

    His claims come in two parts:

    - First hand experience, from the report description: "I delivered Top Secret Documents that contained photos, hyrogliphics, (sic) and R&D material on ET/UFO" and from the report body: "I was required to deliver TS Code word designation COSMIC to SRI, ESL/SYLVANIA, LOCKHEED SKUNKWORKS, TRW, RATHEON, BERKELEY LABS, LAWRENCE LIVERMORE LABS, and other think tanks throughout Silicon valley." and "I personally handled, viewed and delivered thousands of documents involving UFO/ET Projects. My secrecy agreement with the U.S. Government expired in Oct 2014. At this point in my life I would like to share my knowledge in hopes that someone will be able to use it effectively towards disclosure."

    - There is also the folowing second hand information: "In addition we had a GS11 employee who was transferred from a Joint U.S. U.K. Communication station north of London after working at that site for a dozen years. He said it was an NSA/UK facility tasked with tracking UFO including Rendalsham (sic) Forest Incident. He said that UFO/ET were real and that hopefully disclosure would happen in my lifetime since he was in his early 60s at the time."

    Lets hope that the source continues to move forward and share his information publicly. Looking forward to the follow up by Roger Marsh. (Thanks also to Wansen for your insight.)
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    It's not likely that something more will be released on this soon. MUFON has a new department called the "Special Assignment Team" (SAT). It is headed by Chase Kloetzke and was created specifically for military whistleblower reports. Roger Marsh might write the article for Open Minds but he wouldn't be working the case. It would be worked by Chase and whomever she assigned.

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    Found a very interesting article about ESL

    http://steveblank.com/2009/04/06/sto...ever-heard-of/

    Story Behind “The Secret History” Part III: The Most Important Company You Never Heard Of
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    This is Part III of how I came to write “The Secret History of Silicon Valley“.

    1978. Two years out of the Air Force, serendipity (which would be my lifelong form of career planning) found me in Silicon Valley working for my first company: ESL. If you’re an entrepreneur, ESL is the most important company you’ve never heard of. If you are a practitioner of Customer Development, ESL was doing it before most us were born. If you think the Cold War turned out the right side up (i.e. Communism being a bad science experiment) ESL’s founder Bill Perry was moving the chess pieces. And no one who really knew could tell you. 74HGZA3MZ6SV

    Bill Perry’s public life as Secretary of Defense and his subsequent work in preventing nuclear proliferation and nuclear terrorism is public knowledge. But part of his life that that doesn’t even merit a Wikipedia entry is that Bill Perry used Silicon Valley to help end the cold war.

    Fred Terman Sent Us

    In 1953 the U.S. Army needed to build missile and proximity fuse jammers and Quick Reaction Capability (QRC) systems (translation: the other side just came up with something that’s killing us in a shooting war, get us a fix quick.) The Army offered Fred Terman, the Dean of Engineering at Stanford, a $5M contract to build an electronics countermeasures lab. When Terman said no, Sylvania, a tube company which built proximity fuse tubes in WWII, won the contract and set up its Electronic Defense Lab (EDL) in Mountain View California in the middle of an orchard. Terman became a consultant to the company.

    In ten years Sylvania EDL grew to be one the largest companies in the valley − 1300 people were working on electronic countermeasures and electronic intelligence. By 1961 its customers now included our intelligence agencies. (BTW, when the customers were “three-letter” intelligence agencies, contractors used an oblique way of talking about who they were working for: they were all referred to as simply the “customer"...


    This is funny and he's closer to the truth than he can imagine

    Not surprising with a CEO with a PhD in Math, at ESL the engineers ran the company, pursuing bleeding-edge designs in antennas, receivers and microwaves – at times hand in hand with Stanford’s engineering department. (Some of this stuff was so advanced that the rumors were that we got it from the alien spacecraft hidden at Wright-Patterson Air Force base.)...
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