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    And Bill Perry ended up as Bill Clinton's Deputy and Secretary for Defence
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Perry
    Which means the clintons know for sure what's going on.

    According to this ESL is a part owner of Area 51

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...a%2051&f=false

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LicNQpUh0o
    UFOs 50 YEARS OF DENIAL: UFOs and Area 51
    25'27" Includes a clip from Ch13 in Las Vegas where Bill Perry admits existence of top secret base in Nevada Desert ie Area 51

    'We do have a military operation going on at Groom Lake. highly classified, highly important to US security'

    Apparently it was in January 1996 news-conference footage, also captured by KTNV-TV, the ABC affiliate in Las Vegas
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRW_Inc.

    In 1953, the company was recruited to lead the development of America’s first ICBM.[6][7] Starting with the initial design by Convair, the multi-corporate team launched Atlas in 1957[8] after some spectacular failures. It flew its full range in 1958, and was adapted to fly the Mercury astronauts into orbit.[8]

    And a connection to ESL in here as well. Dean Wooldridge helped set up TRW.

    Dean Wooldridge retired in January 1962[13] to become a professor at California Institute of Technology.[2] Simon Ramo became President of the Bunker-Ramo Corp in January 1964, a company jointly owned by TRW and Martin Marietta for the production of computers and computer monitors. Thompson Ramo Wooldridge officially became TRW Inc. in July 1965.[13] Free of anti-competitive restrictions, except regarding ICBM hardware, STL was renamed TRW Systems Group, also in July 1965.[13] The Credit Data group was formed in 1970[13] to compete with Dun & Bradstreet,[2] and ESL was acquired in 1978,

    It was taken over in 2002
    In February 2002 Northrop Grumman launched a $5.9 billion hostile bid for TRW. A bidding war between Northrop Grumman, BAE Systems and General Dynamics ended on July 1, 2002 when Northrop's increased bid of $7.8 billion was accepted

    The two friends who set up TRW
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Ramo

    Well Woolridge started his career at Bell Labs (Where Corso said they feed the microchip)
    In 1962 gave up business world altogether later on studied neurology
    http://articles.latimes.com/2006/sep...e-wooldridge22

    They both worked at Hughes Aircraft designing radar for jets (Boyd Bushman also worked at Hughes on Radar)
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    Currently
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Perry

    Dr. Perry serves on the board of directors of Los Alamos National Security, LLC, the company that operates the Los Alamos National Laboratory and the board of directors for LGS Innovations, a wholly owned subsidiary of Alcatel-Lucent engaged in government services.

    Where Nanoman claims they are doing all kinds of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longeyes View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LicNQpUh0o
    UFOs 50 YEARS OF DENIAL: UFOs and Area 51
    25'27" Includes a clip from Ch13 in Las Vegas where Bill Perry admits existence of top secret base in Nevada Desert ie Area 51

    'We do have a military operation going on at Groom Lake. highly classified, highly important to US security'

    Apparently it was in January 1996 news-conference footage, also captured by KTNV-TV, the ABC affiliate in Las Vegas
    James Fox does some good work, this is going to the top of the watch list, many thanks.

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    Someone else with connections to TRW in the same time frame as the whistleblower
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Foster,_Jr.

    From 1973, Foster was vice president, science and technology of TRW, retiring in 1988. He continued to serve on the board of directors of TRW from 1988 to 1994. He is a Consultant to Northrop Grumman, Ninesigma, Wackenhut Services, Inc., and Defense Group, Inc. He is also Chairman of the Board of Pilkington Aerospace, Inc., and Chairman of Technology Strategies and Alliances.

    He was

    In 1952, Foster was recruited to Lawrence Livermore Laboratory by founder Edward Teller, and became a division leader in experimental physics. He was promoted to associate director in 1958, and director of the Livermore Laboratory and associate director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in 1961, in which positions he served until 1965.[1]

    It like a list of the most influential scientists in the US have passed through it. HAve been working my way through the list 'U.S.: top DOD scientists' from here http://www.isgp.nl/global_power_structures

    Philip Odeen also worked at TRW
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Odeen

    n 1997, Secretary of Defense William Cohen selected Odeen to chair the National Defense Panel. Also in 1997 the TRW corporation acquired BDM, and Odeen became executive vice president and general manager of Information Technology at TRW. He was senior representative in Washington D.C., responsible for government relations, business development and selected international activities of the Aerospace and Information Systems sector. This corelated well with his position in government. He retired as chairman of TRW in 2002, when Northrop Grumman took over the company in a $7.8 billion merger.

    So did John P Stenbit

    https://www.mitre.org/about/leadersh...john-p-stenbit

    Mr. Stenbit previously was an executive vice president of TRW, from which he retired in May 2001. He joined TRW in 1968 and was responsible for the planning and analysis of advanced satellite surveillance systems. Prior to joining TRW, he held a position with the Aerospace Corporation involving command and control systems for missiles and satellites, and satellite data compression and pattern recognition. During this time, he was a Fulbright Fellow and Aerospace Corporation Fellow at the Technische Hogeschool, Einhoven, Netherlands, concentrating on coding theory and data compression

    Ruben F Mettler

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruben_F._Mettler

    Ruben F. Mettler (1924-2006) was an American businessman.[1][2] He served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of TRW Inc. from 1977 to 1988.[1][2]
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    Did they actually let him make copies of the documents he observed or let him keep some of them for himself? It seems odd that the powers that be would do this given the secret nature of those documents.
    If he does not have the original documents or copies then wouldn't whatever he is disclosing be dependent upon his memories? While it would be great if true, I am rather skeptical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally View Post
    Did they actually let him make copies of the documents he observed or let him keep some of them for himself? It seems odd that the powers that be would do this given the secret nature of those documents.
    If he does not have the original documents or copies then wouldn't whatever he is disclosing be dependent upon his memories? While it would be great if true, I am rather skeptical.
    He never actually claimed to have any documents in his possession, so those headlines are somewhat misleading. Although he did claim to have copies of his security agreement which wouldn't be unusual.

    So it seems that we will indeed be dealing with testimony alone, obviously inconclusive for the most part, but perhaps he will supply information that can be independently verified. Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism.
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    The Express online has a new article on our "Navy Whistleblower" some new quotes along with a mention of statements given to MUFON and Nick Pope, both of which will hopefully be released in full very soon.

    "EXCLUSIVE: Navy whistleblower 'saw proof of aliens and UFOs on Earth'

    A FORMER US naval officer has sensationally claimed to have seen pictures of real aliens and UFOs among top-secret military files.

    The 49-year-old man's startling revelations in an exclusive interview with Express.co.uk also include claims other whistleblowers have been killed after trying to lift the lid on extraterrestrial activity.

    We tracked him down after he made an approach to official UFO investigators about wanting to break a 27-year silence on what he saw."

    Read complete article - http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/...-UFOs-on-Earth
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    Curious.

    Being totally familiar with US Naval communication equipment and procedures (from that era), I can tell you I have never, ever, seen a classified photograph (other than comm gear schematics and diagrams) inside of any USN communications facilities and further more, all (Radio) controlled traffic was EXCLUSIVELY text.* Photography was the provenance of Intelligence & Lithography and not Radio(men) or "RM's.

    The only way this sounds plausible is if he was a classified courier somehow tasked with delivering Intelligence reports but I have never heard of an RM3 assigned to this, we required an E-6 or above, usually it was our most senior CPO (E-7) if not an SCPO (E-8) and RM's (Radiomen) handled Comm traffic only and IS's (Intelligence Specialists) handled Intel. CT's (Cryptographic Technicians) potentially had full access to both.

    Additionally, he had to have some work-around or understanding with his opposite. IIRC, the "two-man integrity" policy was Navy-wide by 1986 if not '85. I found that it was possible to circumvent this at times as well by arranging extra long visits to the bathroom stall while on a "message run" but this was not commonplace or practical in the long-term.

    * My first post detailing my exposure to a UFO report while on active duty clearly stipulates that this report while referencing photo's was "written" (text) only.
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