Rense: Okay. Here we are. Now, this is a night to remember as I say. I don't know how many of you saw the movie “Limitless”. I guess there is a spin-off TV series, which . . . I saw one portion of an episode that was inferior, but the idea of a pill allows you to utilize, what, 5% of your brain, I don't know what they say, you know, 50% of your brain, or something like that. We now have the potential, according to Bill Tompkins, of an age regression pill – like taking four aspirins in six months – which will bring you back, as a female to about 21, as a male to about 29 or 30. That's pretty amazing.
If you come back to that state physiologically, and not cerebrally . . . Now, mentally, we're electrical. So the electrical part of our database shouldn't be affected by such a pill, and if they've been after this for 45 or 50 or more years, I'm sure they know exactly what they're doing by now.
The problem, Bill, with this is that there's going to be a bit of a clamor to get on the list. So, ha . . .
Tompkins: Ha, ha, ha.
Rense: Just a bit.
Tompkins: I'm laughing.
Rense: Yeah, yeah. So you need to be on that list. That's for sure. I don't know how this is all going to play out as it is rolled out eventually when people find out about it. And they're finding out about it, thanks to you, right now. But it's a big story. BIG story. Let me get a quick not from George and then back to Frank. Go ahead, George.
Filer: Sign me up on the list. Ha, ha.
Rense: See.
Filer: The gang is ready to go on the list. Now I will say that I've interviewed quite a few people who've been aboard alien spaceships and claim that not so much that they talk about a pill, but they have . . . This one lady that I knew is like 60 years old and she was aboard a craft going from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia and claimed that she was shown a lady inside a a glass tube who was like 20 years old and she's 60 and they asked her if she would like to be that lady. She'd be 20 and young and beautiful and blond-haired and so forth.
Rense: Uh-ha.
Filer: We've also had quite a few cases where they, the aliens, particularly the Nordics, claim that they are our ancestors. So I don't know how true that is, but that kind of fits into to what Bill's saying that they have this capability to live to be quite old.
Rense: Long lives. Hundreds and hundreds of years. Yeah.
Filer: And then actually I've met ladies who claim to be, first of all, Nordics, and claim to be like 95 years old and who look about 21. Assuming what they're saying is true, they have amazing capabilities as far as age is concerned.
Rense: All right. Frank?
Chille: It wouldn't surprise me if they have that capability. And I would let my share go to Bill Tompkins and George Filer.
Rense: Oh, that's nice. Very nice.
Chille: Listen, I'd like to suggest this Jeff. Bill shared a story with me of an historic meeting he had with von Braun at Redstone Arsenal, and I think you and your audience would be astounded by it.
Rense: Okay. All right. I think we've certainly opened the door to what you've been talking about wide, Bill. You want to tell us about Werhner von Braun and the meeting at Redstone?
Tompkins: Okay. Actually, the meeting itself was an illegal meeting in that . . . I have to back off a little bit.
Rense: Sure.
Tompkins: At the Douglas Design Group, where I was section chief, on the Apollo Program, we . . . Now, this is not . . . This is what really took place, and this is not a made up story to cover something. The entire time that we did the Apollo Program, everybody was throwing wrenches into the gears. And we mentioned this before when we talked earlier.
Rense: Right.
Tompkins: But the point is that people's minds were being controlled – manufacturing at Douglas were. And corporate was. And all of these people were saying, “Why we shouldn't do it or we can't do it and we're wasting time and get Tompkins out of there.” So in that environment, we sort of . . . my section sort of isolated ourselves and stepped back and started looking at what was the mission – what's the Apollo mission? And then what does it take to accomplish that? What are the things that we have to do?
Rense: Right.
Tompkins: And the contract from NASA said one thing. It was insane. There was no way it would ever work. So . . . And incidentally, the contract was written partially by German SS research people, because they came over with Project Paperclip and they came over to help us on some sort of a program in space. And, of course, it was their program that they brought over. But those people had one thing that they really slipped on. They were genius – the Germans. But they were not into automation and they were not into micro, micro systems.
So we had had an opportunity – now listen to this. We had had an opportunity to utilize a facility, a Douglas facility, over in Escondido – the one that Jack Northrop used to have before he built his company. This was where we were allowed to get into Area 51, some of our people, pick up the stuff, bring it back and play with it. Okay?
And so here we are playing with extraterrestrial stuff, trying to figure it out. And in that, we found that there's some breakthroughs in how we could design a computer, which would accomplish all of the stuff that is done manually for our equipment.
Of course, there's nothing in the contract that allows us to do that. Everything in German was done manually. So when we put together some of this stuff that our group was studying, they said, “Holy cats. Let's see if we could do it their way.”
So we came up with a group of systems, and some of them are in the book, of how we could automate virtually everything that our stage, the controlling stage, could be operated from - essentially, no manual at all.
And so when we found that the mission was wrong, we then, of course, went back and started doing the missions too. And then we found that, of course, we would have to support the Navy in developing Naval stations on all of the planets or their solar systems' moons. And then after that stage go out to the 12 stars and do the same thing on them and then go commercial – extraterrestrial commercial out in the galaxy.
Rense: Right.
Tompkins: So, when we were doing this, we came into automating everything – every step. And the Germans, who were running NASA, they owned it and refused to allow us to modify their contract. So like I had mentioned before, we put together this package, and I had a model built of the launch control building, center, which was finally built, and I flew the model down to Redstone Arsenal and at the airport there I rented a truck and drove it out to (Redstone) __ Tower and the guards __. A dolly came down the steps, took the model off of the truck, opened the truck, put it on the dolly, took it up, the elevators doors opened and we went up to von Braun's level at the top. The doors opened there. We went in and I had a blue covering the model. We then got von Braun on one side and Dr. Debus on the other and I spent the rest of the week with them.
Rense: Wow! Do you have a picture of the three of you? Did anybody take a photo – just for fun? Or do you have a memory of that? That's an amazing trio.
Tompkins: Well, that's in the book and so in detail. And the point there is that my secretary had said before we even went down there that I've written you a letter which will introduce you to the top people in NASA, but you're never going to use it. So then she did all of that stuff where I'm driving into that zone arsenal, the secret area, and the secret doors, gates, opened without stopping me. The armed guards don't grab me and shoot me. Nobody tries to find a bomb inside the truck, a box. And all of these things happened exactly as she told me it would.
She also told me not to believe a lot of the stuff that the German guys would say. But Dr. Debus, to me, even though von Braun was the top guy, Debus somehow immediately, right after I started talking, became a friend. And I can't describe it any other way. And virtually, I couldn't say anything wrong.
And so he fully accepted this new concept to do it . . . go automatic on everything, even the Watch Control Building. And the transporter and taking the vehicles out on a raft down a river, build a truck and drive it down the freeway to get it out from the launch area – from the control area to the launch area. And everything then changed. And it got accomplished.
But the point was that the SS was already starting . . . They just got here and they were taking over everything.
Rense: Yeah.
Tompkins: And they got jobs through whatever method in all of the aerospace companies, all of the medical companies, all of the subcontractors. There were 40,000 contractors in the Apollo program from all over the country. And so German guys, who could speak fairly good and sometimes excellent English, took over all these companies.
And this, then, was to really accomplish Hitler's mission – to go out into space. So what took place there in Redstone Arsenal was a takeover of your planet. So you didn't . . . You didn't win the war. The war ended because we bombed the country to . . . we totally destroyed Germany.
Rense: Yeah.
Tompkins: But like everybody knows, the Germans were taking all the good stuff from aerospace, I mean, from extraterrestrials – UFOs and everything – to Antarctica.