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    Quote Originally Posted by Garuda View Post
    Just thinking out loud here how all of that brings us back to Russia, and the bans on Russian oil in the US and Europe as part of the sanctions.
    Under a Trump presidency, those sanctions are likely to be lifted in the US, which will strengthen the ruble, etc.

    The Russian Ruble? Yes, it will have a significant positive effect on that but there will be even a bigger payoff for Exxon when that oil sanction is lifted.

    That half a trillion dollar oil deal between Exxon and Putin that Obama blocked after Putin’s invasion of the Ukraine will now come back into play, (with the help of the new Sec. of State, of course) giving Exxon a spectacular 64 million acre lease on Russian soil to drill, produce and sell oil; hence putting more money directly into the pockets of the super-elite.

    So is it any wonder why Russia helped Trump win the election by hacking into the DNC; no doubt with the fervent blessings of the super-elite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykotronik View Post
    In a nutshell there is no disclosure without free energy, free energy means the death of the petro dollar.

    It's very simple why the US is the one holding the disclosure lid down, free energy means the end of the US power elite & their Arab chums who would be back herding goats overnight.
    I would extend that to the global oil/gas and banking industry too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garuda View Post
    Just thinking out loud here how all of that brings us back to Russia, and the bans on Russian oil in the US and Europe as part of the sanctions.
    Under a Trump presidency, those sanctions are likely to be lifted in the US, which will strengthen the ruble, etc.
    Not as clear cut as it might seem.
    Recall the events following the lifting of Iran sanctions?
    A glut in the world oil market occurred.
    Gas prices at my neighborhood pump dipped from near $4USD/gallon to current $2.30USD. A direct result of price per barrel plummeting.
    If Russian oil sanctions are lifted, that puts even more oil on the market, probably driving prices even further down.
    Good for the USA?
    Not if you happen to be a Texas Oil Billionaire. When prices drop, it drops for US pumped oil as well.
    I suspect PEOTUS Trump has a few influential friends that will express strong negative opinions, in no uncertain terms, about lifting sanctions.

    And IMHO, the sanctions are in place due to aggressive actions by Russia. Should remain until a meaningful resolution can be obtained.
    Not simple as a favor to President Putin.

    Who knows? If Mr Putin gets upset about it, maybe he will disclose E.T. simple out of spite.
    Another email hack/release, but more ET centered?
    I will take disclosure anyway it is offered.
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    If Russian oil sanctions are lifted, that puts even more oil on the market, probably driving prices even further down.
    Good for the USA?
    With Exxon at the helm of the oil industry in Russia, this will place limits on Putin should he want to play games and wreak havoc in the oil industry and the world market.

    Trump and Putin's boss will be Exxon once those sanctions on Russia are lifted. So is it any wonder why they are buddies? They have so much in common, don't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A99 View Post
    With Exxon at the helm of the oil industry in Russia, this will place limits on Putin should he want to play games and wreak havoc in the oil industry and the world market.

    Trump and Putin's boss will be Exxon once those sanctions on Russia are lifted. So is it any wonder why they are buddies? They have so much in common, don't they?
    Was not so much addressing the oil glut as a political tactic by Mr Putin.
    Simple that a natural result of lifting the embargo will be a greater world oil supply, in an already overstocked market. Laws of supply & demand dictate; if demand remains unchanged, price$ will drop.
    This takes us back to Garuda's original point that Mr Trump may likely lift sanctions.
    I was pointing out that will be problematic.
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    And IMHO, the sanctions are in place due to aggressive actions by Russia. Should remain until a meaningful resolution can be obtained.
    Lol, you're talking about a rational world here and we don't live in a rational world now. Those sanctions will be lifted... Trump and Putin had a multi-level deal on that. More information will come to light on all of that as more time goes by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Was not so much addressing the oil glut as a political tactic by Mr Putin.
    Simple that a natural result of lifting the embargo will be a greater world oil supply, in an already overstocked market. Laws of supply & demand dictate; if demand remains unchanged, price$ will drop.
    This takes us back to Garuda's original point that Mr Trump may likely lift sanctions.
    I was pointing out that will be problematic.
    So you disagree with Garuda's assessment that once the sanction is lifted, the strength of the ruble will increase?

    No ques. about it, this is indeed a very complex topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A99 View Post
    So you disagree with Garuda's assessment that once the sanction is lifted, the strength of the ruble will increase?

    No ques. about it, this is indeed a very complex topic.
    We seem to be veering OFF TOPIC here.
    Brief detours on related topics are fine, but we really need to return to the central topic, or start another thread.
    In this thread if you have a reason to discuss President Putin, in the context of President Trump disclosing E.T., please share.

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    Fair enough. Sorry about going off topic and it won't happen again. Thanks
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    If Trump stays on track to "Make America Great Again" then he'll be far to busy to reach a disclosure level IMO. Putin ain't his only factor to deal with . . .

    China steals U.S. research drone in South China Sea in front of its crew



    In yet another sign of the deteriorating relationship between China and the United States, on Friday U.S. officials confirmed that the Chinese confiscated a non-military underwater drone in international waters in the South China Sea a day before. The USNS Bowditch, an oceanographic survey ship, had released two of the drones in the water to measure ocean conditions.

    According to Pentagon spokesperson Captain Jeff Davis, the Bowditch stopped to retrieve the drones. Shortly after, a Chinese naval ship that had been shadowing the Bowditch moved to within 500 yards and put a boat into the water. The Chinese boat then pulled up alongside one of the drones and confiscated it.

    . . . The seizure will add to concerns about China's increased military presence and aggressive posture in the disputed South China Sea, including its militarization of maritime outposts.

    A U.S. research group said this week that new satellite imagery indicated China has installed weapons, including anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems, on all seven artificial islands it has built in the South China Sea . . .

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-sto...194408340.html

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