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    looks like an MJ-12 assessment document from 1989 provided to the white house -- just released today

    http://midnightinthedesert.com/exclu...position-ufos/

    The link is to a page where you can download the whole PDF for yourself!


    EXCLUSIVE – Ultra Top Secret: Assessment of Situation / Statement on Position on UFOs
    POSTED ON JUNE 13, 2017 IN GOVERNMENT | 585 VIEWS | LEAVE A RESPONSE
    EXCLUSIVE BREAKING NEWS

    Heather Wade received documents last night from a trusted source. Immediately had Stanton Friedman take a look at these documents who said, “I have never seen anything like this, this is new MJ12 information.” Stanton Friedman is going to continue examining these documents for authenticity, but at this time we can find no evidence of forgery. Midnight In The Desert is posting these documents for all to see, and should you refer to these pages publicly IN ANY WAY, you must credit Heather Wade and Midnight In The Desert as the original source.

    http://d3adcc0j1hezoq.cloudfront.net...ecret-MITD.pdf
    Last edited by WildMage; 06-14-2017 at 07:53 AM. Reason: add pdf link
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildMage View Post
    looks like an MJ-12 assessment document from 1989 provided to the white house -- just released today

    http://midnightinthedesert.com/exclu...position-ufos/

    The link is to a page where you can download the whole PDF for yourself!


    EXCLUSIVE – Ultra Top Secret: Assessment of Situation / Statement on Position on UFOs
    POSTED ON JUNE 13, 2017 IN GOVERNMENT | 585 VIEWS | LEAVE A RESPONSE
    EXCLUSIVE BREAKING NEWS

    Heather Wade received documents last night from a trusted source. Immediately had Stanton Friedman take a look at these documents who said, “I have never seen anything like this, this is new MJ12 information.” Stanton Friedman is going to continue examining these documents for authenticity, but at this time we can find no evidence of forgery. Midnight In The Desert is posting these documents for all to see, and should you refer to these pages publicly IN ANY WAY, you must credit Heather Wade and Midnight In The Desert as the original source.

    http://d3adcc0j1hezoq.cloudfront.net...ecret-MITD.pdf
    Interesting document. A little difficult to read some of the faded/aged text.
    I don't see any hand written notes, only type print (except appendix).
    Not saying it isn't genuine, BUT anybody could have dragged out an old typewriter and knocked out a document.
    Guess if Stan Friedman is on the job of authentication, we should have a good analysis before long (not his first!).

    The Appendix is very intriguing.
    An artist rendition of the Icons from the "NM Alien Craft's" control panels, and etc.
    Not clear to my tired old eyes, but I wonder if any of the Icons match witness Jim Penniston (from the Rendelshem Forest encounter) notes? Many years separate the incidents, but possibility.
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    It is certainly possible that it is genuine but FWIW, if this document is from 1989, its format does not match or conform with any TS document that I've ever seen.

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    Thanks for posting Wildimage very interesting
    All the type seems rewritten? Any reason for this? One thing makes the typewriter analysis impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wansen View Post
    It is certainly possible that it is genuine but FWIW, if this document is from 1989, its format does not match or conform with any TS document that I've ever seen.
    Have to agree. The format seems to reflect the subject matter, something from 1950s?
    But then, who's to say the armed forces weren't still using 1950's tech for their record keeping in 1989. Ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    Have to agree. The format seems to reflect the subject matter, something from 1950s?
    But then, who's to say the armed forces weren't still using 1950's tech for their record keeping in 1989. Ha!
    That's actually a good point.

    Much of our record keeping in overseas communications stations was still quite antiquated in '89 but we were in the process of transitioning to optical scanners and automated logging by then.

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    Things to look into:

    1. Ultra Top Secret
    Did the US ever have an 'Ultra' classification?

    I know the UK had one. And in several Latin American countries 'Ultra Secreto' is the 'Top Secret' equivalent.
    But I'm not aware of a US 'Ultra' classification.

    2. Is there a DIA Office of Counterintelligence?
    I also just had a look at the organization / structure of the DIA.
    The DIA website (http://www.dia.mil/About/Organization/ ) does not mention an 'Office of Counterintelligence'.
    Since 2008, counterintelligence seems to fall under the authority of the Defense Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence Center
    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defens...ligence_Center)

    Was there a DIA Office of Counterintelligence in 1989? If Wikipedia is correct, there never was one.

    3. Logo
    The logo is not the DIA logo, and only has a very superficial resemblance with the logo of the Defense Attaché System.

    That's just for the first page...
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    It mentions that the MJ-12 base is in a base 'highly radioactive' in Flat Rock, Nevada. However that as far as I can see a made up name which appeared in the Andromeda Strain.

    Love the conversation with the EBE

    INT: Why haven't you made official contact?

    EBE: What and be strung up in one of those beautiful trees!?

    Either very well written or genuine the EBE is pretty blatant in his mockery of the interviewer.

    The EBE also mentions two places that prove his predecessors had visited Earth in the past a base in Yugoslavia and a base on the ?Isle of Pines? (Text obscure here) in the Pacific Ocean

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    Isle of pines exists
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle...New_Caledonia)

    Interesting see half way down cement cylinders found on Isle of Pines maybe 13,000 old
    http://s8int.com/sophis3.html

    More expansive here
    https://science-frontiers.com/sf043/sf043p01.htm

    And I remember hearing about obscure Alien base somewhere in Eastern Europe
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    Proper write up about the cement cylinders...
    http://www.nextreads.com/display2.as...d=7432337&FC=1

    The author could have heard of them and put them into the doc,

    The EBE mention that these concrete footings for a base were put down 115,000 yrs ago by his grandfather

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