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    Lightbulb The Roswell crash did not transpire in Roswell...?

    Among the more exciting threads that have surfaced on #UFOEmailLists over the past couple of months is the story of #ProjectSerpo, which in previous incarnations, is not a new story. Many in the #UFOCommunity have heard versions of this tale before. Among the key elements of this particular story are some of the following:


    In recent years the #UFO field has been flooded with purported "official" documents, allegedly "leaked" by persons unknown within the #AmericanIntelligenceCommunity. These documents have been very difficult to confirm or repudiate.

    The reason? When U.S. Government agencies have been queried, they have either been unwilling to answer inquiries or have not known what they were supposed to do under #FederalLaw established for just such inquiries.

    In June 1987, the #UFOResearchCommunity tried very hard to confirm or repudiate what has become known as the MJ-12 Briefing Document." This document is allegedly a briefing paper that was prepared on November 18, 1952, by Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter for presentation to then President Elect Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    The document is said to be classified as #TopSecret, and it dealt with American recovery operations of crashed UFOs. Every effort to validate this document by the UFO Community has been unsuccessful...

    In trying to discern alien disinformation, we must look at the possibility of alien guile so that we can preempt it. To preempt this possibility, we must know our priorities and develop a keen understanding of the differences between positive forces and negative impostors.

    Attempting to apply rigid scientific standards of objectivity to the alien phenomenon is impractical and unrealistic... Science has the luxury of dealing with a material reality that is universally verifiable, but the alien phenomenon is more complex and subtle than materiality.

    Recommended read: Discerning Alien Disinformation

    We know this can bring up more questions and I hope you find this useful, thanks everyone and have a great day. ^_^

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    Montalk is a member here, although he hasn’t posted anything in a while.
    Pretty sure it’s the same guy who you’ve quoted

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    Thanks for posting my book. Looks to me like Disclosure groundwork is being laid down again, under a tweaked angle.

    Instead of the previous "ET is our brother" and "military is evil" angle, the emphasis now leans toward casting military black projects in a positive light and having some of that tech be revealed to the public. Along with the creation of the Space Force, which could serve as the public cover for that, Trump's been teasing secret tech, weapons, new forms of energy, etc. that may be released.

    In the book, back in 2008, I proposed a scenario where black ops groups are given amnesty and their swords turned into ploughs, except that it would be a ploy to seed Minority Report style technology into public domain to create a more sophisticated police state, which serves the ends of a negative alien agenda.

    Today, more than ever, I see that as being likely considering how much Trump supports the military industrial complex and supports expanding the military and police, pushing 5G technologies, and of course Space Force and secret tech still to come. AI and drones are coming online now too, which would mesh with that.

    Not sure if they'll portray themselves as human patriots fighting the good fight against alien threats, or saying they've been working with positive ET groups to defend Earth from negative ones. The cat's pretty much out of the bag regarding the existence of negative ETs, so the narrative would have to account for that. Someone's going to be scapegoated, the question is who's going to come away looking clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberabel View Post
    Among the more exciting threads that have surfaced on #UFOEmailLists over the past couple of months is the story of #ProjectSerpo, which in previous incarnations, is not a new story. Many in the #UFOCommunity have heard versions of this tale before. Among the key elements of this particular story are some of the following:


    In recent years the #UFO field has been flooded with purported "official" documents, allegedly "leaked" by persons unknown within the #AmericanIntelligenceCommunity. These documents have been very difficult to confirm or repudiate.

    The reason? When U.S. Government agencies have been queried, they have either been unwilling to answer inquiries or have not known what they were supposed to do under #FederalLaw established for just such inquiries.

    In June 1987, the #UFOResearchCommunity tried very hard to confirm or repudiate what has become known as the MJ-12 Briefing Document." This document is allegedly a briefing paper that was prepared on November 18, 1952, by Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter for presentation to then President Elect Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    The document is said to be classified as #TopSecret, and it dealt with American recovery operations of crashed UFOs. Every effort to validate this document by the UFO Community has been unsuccessful...

    In trying to discern alien disinformation, we must look at the possibility of alien guile so that we can preempt it. To preempt this possibility, we must know our priorities and develop a keen understanding of the differences between positive forces and negative impostors.

    Attempting to apply rigid scientific standards of objectivity to the alien phenomenon is impractical and unrealistic... Science has the luxury of dealing with a material reality that is universally verifiable, but the alien phenomenon is more complex and subtle than materiality.

    Recommended read: Discerning Alien Disinformation

    We know this can bring up more questions and I hope you find this useful, thanks everyone and have a great day. ^_^
    As you may, or may not know, SERPO.ORG is owned and run by staff members here at TOP Forum.
    More of a historic document at this point, but always ready to post any new developments.
    If you are interested, there there are a few discussion thread at TOP Forum, here, and here.
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    Stan Friedman, the man who broke the Roswell story back in 1978, published a book called "Crash at Corona". Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montalk View Post
    Thanks for posting my book. Looks to me like Disclosure groundwork is being laid down again, under a tweaked angle.

    Instead of the previous "ET is our brother" and "military is evil" angle, the emphasis now leans toward casting military black projects in a positive light and having some of that tech be revealed to the public. Along with the creation of the Space Force, which could serve as the public cover for that, Trump's been teasing secret tech, weapons, new forms of energy, etc. that may be released.

    In the book, back in 2008, I proposed a scenario where black ops groups are given amnesty and their swords turned into ploughs, except that it would be a ploy to seed Minority Report style technology into public domain to create a more sophisticated police state, which serves the ends of a negative alien agenda.

    Today, more than ever, I see that as being likely considering how much Trump supports the military industrial complex and supports expanding the military and police, pushing 5G technologies, and of course Space Force and secret tech still to come. AI and drones are coming online now too, which would mesh with that.

    Not sure if they'll portray themselves as human patriots fighting the good fight against alien threats, or saying they've been working with positive ET groups to defend Earth from negative ones. The cat's pretty much out of the bag regarding the existence of negative ETs, so the narrative would have to account for that. Someone's going to be scapegoated, the question is who's going to come away looking clean.
    Where is the alien threat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Origins View Post
    Where is the alien threat?
    Within the narrative, it's being presented as a potential threat by some officials:

    Are UFOs a Threat to National Security? This Ex-U.S. Official Thinks They Warrant Investigation

    US Congressman Warns UFOs Could Pose a Serious Threat on National Security

    "The Navy considers UAPs like these a national security and safety problem because they are not authorized to be in U.S. airspace"

    What matters how aliens/UFOs/UAPs are currently being spun at an official level and by the media. Because that may point to an agenda. So that's where the alien threat is, as far as the narrative goes.

    If you're asking where is the alien threat for real, how about abductions, implants, animal and human mutilations, the Missing 411 work of David Paulides, joint alien-military MILAB abductions, reports of Reptilians and their behaviors, Grays and their proven penchant for disinformation, manipulation and disruption of human relationships and networks, mind programming, not to mention the historical/ancient accounts of wars between the "gods." If all aliens are good, why were they ever fighting each other? Why the need for various disinfo opinion leaders out there doing PR work for various alien groups in a slick, cherry picking, fallacy-laden ways as if covering for some hidden agenda?

    The evidence is out there, just have to research broadly and not let personal prejudice shield one from the facts. I distilled a good portion of that into a book and released it for free, linked above.

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    Happy Xmas Montalk

    Have you read Peter Levanda and Tom De Longe’s Sekret Machine’s Man the latest one? They aren’t painting a pretty picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montalk View Post
    Within the narrative, it's being presented as a potential threat by some officials:

    Are UFOs a Threat to National Security? This Ex-U.S. Official Thinks They Warrant Investigation

    US Congressman Warns UFOs Could Pose a Serious Threat on National Security

    "The Navy considers UAPs like these a national security and safety problem because they are not authorized to be in U.S. airspace"

    What matters how aliens/UFOs/UAPs are currently being spun at an official level and by the media. Because that may point to an agenda. So that's where the alien threat is, as far as the narrative goes.

    If you're asking where is the alien threat for real, how about abductions, implants, animal and human mutilations, the Missing 411 work of David Paulides, joint alien-military MILAB abductions, reports of Reptilians and their behaviors, Grays and their proven penchant for disinformation, manipulation and disruption of human relationships and networks, mind programming, not to mention the historical/ancient accounts of wars between the "gods." If all aliens are good, why were they ever fighting each other? Why the need for various disinfo opinion leaders out there doing PR work for various alien groups in a slick, cherry picking, fallacy-laden ways as if covering for some hidden agenda?

    The evidence is out there, just have to research broadly and not let personal prejudice shield one from the facts. I distilled a good portion of that into a book and released it for free, linked above.
    So there is still no alien threat..Just assumptions and speculation by a select few who love seeing their name in print and on TV...As far as abductions, implants and animal and human mutilations none of it has been proven to be an alien MO....And do not even get me started on this Icke Reptilian BS the stuff is so sci-fi it's stupid...And where is there proof of gray aliens? It's wild conspiracy theory and ancient alien Exopolitics.....

    I will look at your book though.....Complicated conspiracy theory is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longeyes View Post
    Happy Xmas Montalk

    Have you read Peter Levanda and Tom De Longe’s Sekret Machine’s Man the latest one? They aren’t painting a pretty picture.
    And you wasted money on Delonge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longeyes View Post
    Montalk is a member here, although he hasn’t posted anything in a while.
    Pretty sure it’s the same guy who you’ve quoted
    Allright Longeyes, I didn't expect the book's author to be here, that is great.

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