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    Quote Originally Posted by epo333 View Post
    New strain of flu found in China has potential to become a pandemic, scientists warn

    The new strain has descended from the type of flu (“swine flu”) that emerged in 2009 causing the first global flu pandemic in 40 years.
    As with swine flu, however, the new strain has been identified as having “all the essential hallmarks of a candidate pandemic virus.”
    The new strain of flu should be monitored closely, scientists say.

    Scientists have identified a new strain of flu carried by pigs in China that they say has the potential to become a pandemic.
    The new strain is descended from the type of flu — known as “swine flu” — that emerged in 2009 causing the first global flu pandemic in 40 years.

    The scientists published their peer-reviewed findings in U.S. science journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on Monday. They said the new strain of flu, which they called “G4 EA H1N1,” is a variation of swine flu, and includes the “G4″ genotype that has become predominant in swine populations since 2016.

    Much more in link:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/30/new-...sts-warns.html
    From what I have been following on MSM, there is some good news.
    This new "swine flu" seems to only be transmitted from pigs to humans. NOT from human to human.
    But there is great concern that a mutation may enable it to gain that ability.
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    Another doctors view on COVID-19
    A fantastic journey begins with curiosity

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    And should anyone wonder otherwise , both the views of Bartlett and Victory are complementary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymondo View Post
    And should anyone wonder otherwise , both the views of Bartlett and Victory are complementary.
    Dr. Bartlett is recommending the use of Steroids, as he claims (I confirmed low death toll, with Johns-Hopkins website) Taiwan is having great success with that therapy.
    I'm not aware of Taiwan's total COVID containment program, but in recent weeks there was an announcement in the USA that Dexamethasone (Trade name Decadron), also a Steroid, was having a positive impact on infected patients. Another tool, along with Remdesivir, for treatment in late stages.
    Dr Bartlett seemed to be claiming the Steroid as a COVID cure, but in fact no Steroid is anti-viral. They simply reduce inflammation.

    Another recent interesting statistic is the likelihood of infection based on the statistical analysis of Race and socioeconomic status. That is to say some races are more susceptible. No idea if South Asians have an inherent resistance (Certainly not the case in China). Might make for an interesting study.

    Still digesting Dr Victory's video, more later.
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    Exactly . The two messages are perfectly complementary .
    And of course another outstanding successful anti inflammatory has been Hydroxychloroquine , despite the WHO and Lancet's initial attempts to discredit it .

    Any medication that reduces inflammation is beneficial because the heart of this disease is precisely that very condition .Which is why Vitamin C in conjunction with Zinc as an efficiency enabler is also so great a preventative .

    One basis of the higher fatalities among darker skin people is thought to be lower melamine which reduces synthesis of Vitamin D .It looks as though there are also socio economic factors which are identified in depth by Moon over Alabama .

    Without delving into high octane speculation , it might be savvy to note the official Russian submission that the virus has also been spread deliberately by individuals working with and for known extremist groups .Apart from the CCP itself!!
    In that context the known difference between Variants 'S " and " L' should be noted .

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacemaverick View Post
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    Another doctors view on COVID-19
    I think Dr Victory was sadly mistaken. I have to think she made this video BEFORE the explosion of COVID cases now plaguing our country.

    She states that outside of NYC, infection is not a problem.
    There are right now 10,000 new cases a day in Florida.
    Texas, Arizona, and California are also experiencing the highest daily infection rate since the pandemic struck.
    This all happened shortly after States began lifting "lock down".

    Enough people are not simply getting over it by depending on their immune system, as she recommends.
    True enough that some people do not get critically sick, but when the number of infected sky rockets (like now) those requiring hospitalization, ICU beds, and ventilators overwhelm the medical care system.
    I have even read some mortuaries are running out of room to store expired patients.

    She states people over 70 are most at risk. Another reason to think her information is outdated. True at one time, BUT after Memorial Day, according to latest statistics the fastest growing segment was the 18-44 group. Most likely due to social interactions without social distancing and/or face masks (measures she was against).

    Her observations may have been spot on EARLY in the cycle. But just a few weeks later nearly everything she claims has been disproved, as demonstrated by the explosion of new cases and ever climbing fatality rate.
    Not to be unkind, she gave a valid medical opinion based on the information available at the time. IMHO, just didn't hold up.
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    The virus pandemic, the ultimate tragedy has struck someone in his 30s from San Antonio in Texas who thought it was all a hoax and attended a Covid Party where one of the people was someone who had the virus. Shortly before his death the deceased told a hospital nurse that he had made a 'terrible mistake'.

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/11/young...re.top.twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by calikid View Post
    I think Dr Victory was sadly mistaken. I have to think she made this video BEFORE the explosion of COVID cases now plaguing our country.


    --------------------------There are right now 10,000 new cases a day in Florida.
    Texas, Arizona, and California are also experiencing the highest daily infection rate since the pandemic struck.
    This all happened shortly after States began lifting "lock down". ----------------------

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    New cases Up .
    But not Fatalities .
    Strange this happens just as the public 'narrative' appears to be badly wrong .

    More testing --- inefficient though it is --- finds more new cases . 100% expected .
    More grist to the idea that the HIT lies under 20% and not about 70% as was first assumed .
    But fatalities are in decline .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymondo View Post
    New cases Up .
    But not Fatalities .
    Strange this happens just as the public 'narrative' appears to be badly wrong .

    More testing --- inefficient though it is --- finds more new cases . 100% expected .
    More grist to the idea that the HIT lies under 20% and not about 70% as was first assumed .
    But fatalities are in decline .
    I'm afraid I have to disagree with that at this time . . .


    A morgue trailer at the Nueces County Medical Examiner's office in Corpus Christi.

    https://kvia.com/news/texas/2020/07/...some-counties/

    CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas --More than 3,000 Texans have now died from the coronavirus and counties in the state are preparing for even more deaths by expanding their capacities to store bodies, some by requesting refrigerated trailers.

    "That's why we're asking people to wear face masks," Nueces County Judge Barbara Canales told KRIS-TV. "I am now having to order additional body bags and morgue trailers. People have to understand how real it is."

    Austin and Travis County are “in the process of procuring a refrigerated truck to face the surge in Covid-19 deaths,” Travis County public information officer Hector Nieto said.

    The mobile morgue will be placed where there “is space for it” and where it is needed the most, whether closer to hospitals or to the county morgue. Nieto could not confirm when the unit will arrive.

    Cameron County is also preparing for a worst-case scenario and bought a 53-foot refrigerated trailer in case morgues become full, Juan Martinez, the local emergency management department’s operations section chief told The Valley Morning Star.

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    Here is the best metric display I've found so far . . . updated daily.

    Just park your mouse pointer over a county or pick a state on the left and do the same!!!

    https://globalepidemics.org/key-metr...d-suppression/

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