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    UFO report to Congress 6/25/21

    Here is the UFO report to congress if you haven't read it. Take a look at the section below and see if you can identify what's wrong with this report. I'll give you a hint, it wasn't made in earnest.

    The UAP documented in this limited dataset demonstrate an array of aerial behaviors,
    reinforcing the possibility there are multiple types of UAP requiring different explanations. Our
    analysis of the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved
    they will fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural
    atmospheric phenomena, USG or industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems,
    and a catchall “other” bin. With the exception of the one instance where we determined with
    high confidence that the reported UAP was airborne clutter, specifically a deflating balloon, we
    currently lack sufficient information in our dataset to attribute incidents to specific explanations.

    Airborne Clutter: These objects include birds, balloons, recreational unmanned aerial vehicles
    (UAV), or airborne debris like plastic bags that muddle a scene and affect an operator’s ability to
    identify true targets, such as enemy aircraft.

    Natural Atmospheric Phenomena: Natural atmospheric phenomena includes ice crystals,
    moisture, and thermal fluctuations that may register on some infrared and radar systems.

    USG or Industry Developmental Programs: Some UAP observations could be attributable to
    developments and classified programs by U.S. entities. We were unable to confirm, however,
    that these systems accounted for any of the UAP reports we collected.

    Foreign Adversary Systems: Some UAP may be technologies deployed by China, Russia,
    another nation, or a non-governmental entity.

    Other: Although most of the UAP described in our dataset probably remain unidentified due to
    limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis, we may require additional
    scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them. We
    would group such objects in this category pending scientific advances that allowed us to better
    understand them. The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases
    where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management.


    Notice the change in scheme when we get to "other"? We get details about what all the other categories could be, but the other bin gets NO examples, only a comment that we need better knowledge, and a promise to study "others" more. They are deliberately changing the categorical scheme to avoid detailing the 5th position in writing, a position we know some in the government take, and we know some of what they have been researching in AATIP. Congress should demand better, because they are clearly trying to influence the impact of the report..

    It's not even a memo on UAP, it is a plea for funding... Here is how it ends...

    The UAPTF has indicated that additional funding for research and development could further the
    future study of the topics laid out in this report. Such investments should be guided by a UAP
    Collection Strategy, UAP R&D Technical Roadmap, and a UAP Program Plan.
    Last edited by Sansanoy; 06-26-2021 at 12:43 PM.

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    What a "Nothin' Muffin".

    So thats what we're fed after the Pentagon knows that someone or something has tampered with our Nuclear armaments' for the past few decades!

    Not to mention known military personnel abductions!

    . . . No breaks today . . .

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    @Epo
    Jeremy Corbell claims he will make a new release on Tuesday. (6-29-2021)
    I am unsure as to what his angle is on that. To pressure the discussion or simply
    to cause trouble?

    I think both Corbell and Elizondo have a mistaken impression about their role in disclosure.
    Elizondo thinks he should keep the secrets for the sake of an orderly acclimatization and keeping his personal honor and integrity.
    Corbell on the other hand thinks more in terms of protecting his sources and releasing information to get people to speculate and discuss the topic. (so that it becomes mainstream)

    I understand their views but at the same time I don't think they realize that it focuses all the control into one spot. Basically, if Elizondo becomes inconvenient he can experience a sudden accident and thats it. Theres no one to take over.

    Corbell is pretty much the same scenario.

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    I did not like an aspect of Elizondo's interview where he sets his loyalty above providing critical information and evidence to those entitled to it. He talks about how government is employed by the American people, but puts his loyalty towards the government/military rather than the people.

    I am sure he is doing it out of an honorable sentiment...but at the same time it also makes it easy to shut up disclosure where he is inherently the easiest handle to control. Same with Corbell.

    Should the government not agree with disclosure releases, that leaves Elizondo with no recourse.
    He doesn't also know if the "ET"s are going to publicly reveal themselves in a year, next month or tomorrow.

    Speculating that there is plenty of time is rather optimistic in my eyesight.

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    I think letting people know critical information in a timely fashion is more important than an orderly and sanctioned flow of information....

    I just don't see the "ET" allowing governmental agencies the leeway to do things on their own time table. Speculating that we do have time is rather dangerous and puts orderly and sanctioned information above the public interest. (and I don't mean mental interest, I mean life or death decisions they might have otherwise taken in advance if they had known about the problem.


    The "ET" already have preplanned scenarios where a subset of the population is already considered dead prior to arrival. So delaying that release is like Russian Roulette with their lives each day. Even chaos may be a preferable option when you factor in the fact that most of the population isn't informed enough to make proper decisions and may make decisions under intense duress.
    For every action, there is a corresponding over-reaction. -- Anonymous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fore View Post
    @Epo
    Jeremy Corbell claims he will make a new release on Tuesday. (6-29-2021)
    I am unsure as to what his angle is on that. To pressure the discussion or simply
    to cause trouble?

    I think both Corbell and Elizondo have a mistaken impression about their role in disclosure.
    Elizondo thinks he should keep the secrets for the sake of an orderly acclimatization and keeping his personal honor and integrity.
    Corbell on the other hand thinks more in terms of protecting his sources and releasing information to get people to speculate and discuss the topic. (so that it becomes mainstream)

    I understand their views but at the same time I don't think they realize that it focuses all the control into one spot. Basically, if Elizondo becomes inconvenient he can experience a sudden accident and thats it. Theres no one to take over.

    Corbell is pretty much the same scenario.

    =======
    I did not like an aspect of Elizondo's interview where he sets his loyalty above providing critical information and evidence to those entitled to it. He talks about how government is employed by the American people, but puts his loyalty towards the government/military rather than the people.

    I am sure he is doing it out of an honorable sentiment...but at the same time it also makes it easy to shut up disclosure where he is inherently the easiest handle to control. Same with Corbell.

    Should the government not agree with disclosure releases, that leaves Elizondo with no recourse.
    He doesn't also know if the "ET"s are going to publicly reveal themselves in a year, next month or tomorrow.

    Speculating that there is plenty of time is rather optimistic in my eyesight.

    --------------
    I think letting people know critical information in a timely fashion is more important than an orderly and sanctioned flow of information....

    I just don't see the "ET" allowing governmental agencies the leeway to do things on their own time table. Speculating that we do have time is rather dangerous and puts orderly and sanctioned information above the public interest. (and I don't mean mental interest, I mean life or death decisions they might have otherwise taken in advance if they had known about the problem.


    The "ET" already have preplanned scenarios where a subset of the population is already considered dead prior to arrival. So delaying that release is like Russian Roulette with their lives each day. Even chaos may be a preferable option when you factor in the fact that most of the population isn't informed enough to make proper decisions and may make decisions under intense duress.
    FYI . . .

    George Knapp welcomes Jeremy Corbell for a conversation on the long-awaited and newly-released Pentagon UAP report. He'll be joined by Joe Murgia and Danny Silva.

    https://www.coasttocoastam.com/

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    How about a report to Congress on these goings on!!!






  6. #6
    Great video on UFO's and nukes. Youtube used to recommend good stuff for me, then one day it just quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sansanoy View Post
    Great video on UFO's and nukes. Youtube used to recommend good stuff for me, then one day it just quit.
    Thanks Sansanoy!

    You know, I've been thinking(?) why hasn't any group of "on board" researchers' or "scientists" gone rough, and heisted an ARC (Alien Reproduction Craft) and present it to a University? I think they are routinely in use in just about anywhere on the planet. I don't know, Maybe they are rigged with security devices, or destruct systems!

    Just need one to break away and land in Fenway Park at a Red Sox Game! lol

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    I believe people may find the talking-point slides interesting:

    https://twitter.com/TonyHoWasHere/st...49062713974785

    Basically the usual where nothing sensible was likely to come out at a press briefing.
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    An article regarding the British Government's reaction to the report, and the overall problem regarding the topic politically in the UK:
    https://www.liberationtimes.com/folly

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    The initial report has now spawned this, relevant section from page 83: https://www.congress.gov/117/bills/s...17s2610pcs.pdf

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