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    I think I found a major discrepancy with Victor's email Anon statement.

    From Gary Bekkum's post quoting the Fox Broadcast from 1988 http://www.starpod.us/2012/01/18/the.../#.T_xWTPXVWM9

    There are government officials — and elected officials — that are grammatically briefed on the existence of the MJ-12 activities — these officials include the President, the Vice President, as elected officials — the Director of Central Intelligence and the Director of the National Security Agency — the MJ-12 policy is headquartered in the Naval Observatory in Washington D.C. — the United States Navy has the primary operational responsibilities of field activities relating to the MJ-12 policies. All information gathered in the field — not necessarily by Navy personnel — is transmitted to the Navy for analysis.”
    During the broadcast, a chart was briefly displayed that illustrated the chain of command under the alleged MJ-12 group. Based upon the chart, authority over MJ-12 comes directly from the President of the United States. The group is shown to be on an equivalent level with the White House National Security Council. MJ-12 intelligence is then disseminated to the CIA, the NSA, and another alleged entity called AQUARIUS, over the Defense Intelligence Agency. The chart then discloses a real SECRET (in 1988) DIA Parapsychology Research Unit — later revealed in the declassified STAR GATE files — as well as the existence of AREA 51/Dreamland.
    Information is also disseminated to DARPA — the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and “DC5″ of the Defense Information Systems Agency.
    At the bottom of the organization are the Army, the Office of Naval Intelligence, and the AFIS, the Air Force Intelligence Service
    And, from Victor's email

    Richard [Helms] was an adviser to the MJ-12 group and in fact was not
    only a contributing editor to the "Red Book," [presented to the U.S.
    President every five (5) years on alien activities], but was the final
    editor --- Editor-in-Chief if you will -- for the one presented in the
    late 1960s.

    Richard also spoke of knowing of an "exchange program" ["Projects SERPO"
    and "CRYSTAL KNIGHT"], but did NOT know the name of it nor any details
    he could offer other than it involved "us sending our people there and
    them [Ebens] sending some of their people here."

    He noted that this information was so highly compartmented by the USAF
    that not even he could get the project name nor ANY details on it.
    It makes more sense that the Navy be in control because they own the skies by owning most (if not all) of the American Satellites (NOAA). Who ever wrote that last email to Victor did not know what was said in 1988 and assumed it was the Air Force.

    This is not the same Anon.
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  2. #32
    You may be on to something there. However, isn't there alway's, He could be correct in that "He noted that this information was so highly compartmented by the USAF that not even he could get the project name nor ANY details on it."

    Just a thought......
    "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
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  3. #33
    Navy does make sense.

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    Since we haven't posted a "List of Aviary Members" I found this one of Grant Cameron's last up-dated Monday, 02 May 2011 12:41


    List of Aviary Members

    Written by Grant Cameron
    Friday, 29 April 2011 14:46



    •BLUE JAY: Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green, MD, Ph.D; Chief, Biomedical Sciences Department, General Motors, former head of the CIA's UFO files at the "Weird Desk."
    •SEA GULL: Bruce Maccabee, Ph.D., research scientist in optical physics and laser weapons applications at the U.S. Naval Surface Weapons Lab, Maryland; MUFON physics/photo-interpretive consultant.
    •PELICAN: Ron Pandolfi, CIA Deputy Director for the Division of Science and Technology and current custodian of UFO files at the "Weird Desk"; may be involved in the White House initiative to promptly release UFO information to the public.
    •OWL: Hal Puthoff, physicist with the Institute for Advanced Research in Austin, Texas, who specializes in Zero-Point Energy, a quantum/resonance physics phenomenon with reported potential for above-unity ("free") energy.
    •PENGUIN: John Alexander, Ph.D, Lt. Col. U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command Col.
    •HAWK: Ernie Kellerstrauss, security cleared for UFO information; worked at Wright-Patterson AFB in the 1970s and reportedly lived with an extraterrestrial for a while.
    •CHICKADEE: Cmdr. C.B. Scott Jones, Ph.D., USN (Ret.), former officer with the Office of Naval intelligence and other agencies; 30 years service in U.S. intelligence overseas; involved in government research and development projects for the Defense Nuclear Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and other organizations; former aide to Sen. Clairborne Pell, who had had a long-standing interest in UFOs and the paranormal.
    •CONDOR: Capt. Bob Collins, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, engaged in UFO-related intelligence operations, reportedly appeared clandestinely on the 1988 television program "UFO Cover-Up Live"
    •FALCON: Many have fingered Sgt. Richard "Dick" Doty, USAF (Ret.); Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations; reported to have engaged in UFO disinformation projects, including reportedly hoaxing TV producer Linda Howe concerning availability of a tape showing a UFO landing at Holloman Air Force Base, N.M. and allegedly waging psychological warfare on Albuquerque defense electronic contractor Paul Bennewitz. The actual Falcon was a DIA agent with a Slavic name who died in 2001. Only Bill Moore and Greg Bishop know who this person is as far as we know.
    •SPARROW: Richard Doty
    •RAVEN: (Identity not yet determined – actually may be two different ones.) One raven may have been Dale Graff (Raven) - Performed contract oversight for the DIA at Wright Patterson AFB. Most recently, Graff was the chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special department. Second RAVEN appears to be a kingpin. Jamie Shandera dealt with him.
    •PARTRIDGE?: Jacques Vallee, Ph.D., formerly an astrophysicist with GEPAN, the French Government’s UFO investigative agency, later moved to U.S. as principal investigator with Defense Department computer network projects; worked with famed astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek author on UFO subject.
    •Jack Vorona (bird name unknown) - Vorona was apparently the most covert of all the Birds. He was believed to have been a liaison between Capitol Hill and Los Alamos. Was once involved in Project Sleeping Beauty, an attempt to disable enemy troops using electromagnetic radiation.
    •CHICKEN LITTLE: Dan Smith, civilian UFO research/volunteer liaison with Ronald Pandolfi.

    http://www.presidentialufo.com/the-a...aviary-members

    Note his is very much like this one (not exact though) from Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D.

    I think Boylan's list might be from 1995.

    http://www.drboylan.com/aviary2.html

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    I've been researching DIA / DISC for a little while now, I wonder if the Aviary is simply a newer version of the cointelpro part of DISC? The Tobin Document refers to DISC as the DIA created von Braun administered base security-plus-disinfo group protecting first the military space programme then when the military space programme went underground behind the "Project Bluebook" style facade of NASA (all the same military personnel were still in place in the "civilian" space programme) DISC shifted more to almost an X-Files type group with a clear agenda to conceal, subvert and divert.

    Sounds like The Aviary- not what they claim to be but the actual effect of The Aviary.

    Just a theory.

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    Lily: Why not post that to Victor's List on the current email thread and see who says what?

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    Re: Jack Vorona:

    Mr. Speaker, I rise to recognize Dr. Jack Vorona of Falls Church, Virginia for his induction into the Defense Intelligence Agency's Torch Bearers Hall. DIA established Torch Bearers Hall this year to coincide with its 50th anniversary and to recognize former employees who have made exceptional contributions to its mission. Dr. Vorona's invaluable leadership in developing scientific and technical intelligence programs during the height of the Cold War helped keep Americans safe and secured him a spot among the eight inaugural recipients of this honor.
    During his 25-year career at DIA, Dr. Vorona developed many programs aimed at identifying foreign defense technologies that could threaten the U.S. and its allies, including nuclear technologies. As Deputy Director for Scientific and Technical Intelligence, he oversaw funding to address the most significant threats posed by massive Soviet investments in science, technology, and weapons programs. His work was vital in helping to ensure that the U.S. was never technologically surprised.
    Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues to join me in recognizing Dr. Vorona's remarkable achievements and in thanking him for his dedicated service to the nation.

    ***

    Jack Vorona: DIA, TSS Head, Psi researcher, committe member managing UFO disinfo, member of the so-called Aviary.


    Jack Vorona honored for 25 years service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Lily: Why not post that to Victor's List on the current email thread and see who says what?
    Sent. But I think I only have half the email list (L through Z).
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    For some reason this naming of Rositke followed by the naming of Helms has shaken a lot of tree branches because all kinds of things are falling out.

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    Stanton Friedman is (right now) on Eye Witness Radio on www.globalradioalliance. I asked him if he thought Helms cvould be Falcon and he said there is zero chance it was him.

    I'll post the link for the archive as soon as the station posts it up.
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