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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfire View Post
    Doesn't it always seem that any photo or video taken is always fuzzy, so to speak. Or when it is fairly clear, it is at a somewhat greater distance away.

    Saw the BFRO show when they were in West Virginia. They baited a spot with fresh inards from a meat packing plant close by and set a trail cam looking at the spot. They heard a call and knocks. Went to check the bait and it was completely gone. The trail camera that was pointed at bait malfunctioned. Hmmm....
    Some local kid chuckling: free food for my dog for some days, and all I had to do was disable a camera...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Several sites have basically the same story. No update yet from the researchers. I read last night that another DNA study is almost ready for release and this group was afraid of getting beat, so one person jumped ahead. In other cases I know about it was usually one member of a team acting on his own without the consent of the others. Just academic hijinks.
    Over on alienscientist.com there was posted today this:

    http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/...TUDY!-Positive


    DeNovo Scientific Journal To Release Ketchum DNA Study


    “Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies.”
    Authors: Ketchum MS, Wojtkiewicz PW, Watts AB, Spence DW, Holzenburg AK, Toler DG, Prychitko TM, Zhang F, Bollinger S, Shoulders R, Smith R.
    Journal of Advanced Multidisciplinary Exploration in Zoology. 11 January 2013.

    Specimens yielding DNA were obtained, purportedly from elusive hominins in North America called Sasquatch. Sequencing and genotyping were performed in addition to histopathologic and electron microscopic examination of a large tissue sample.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/...y-2447660.html

    TUESDAY

    2/13/2013

    Title:

    Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies

    Author(s):

    Ketchum, M. S., Wojtkiewicz, P. W., Watts, A. B., Spence, D. W., Holzenburg, A. K., Toler, D. G., Prychitko, T. M., Zhang, F., Bollinger, S., Shoulders, R., Smith, R. (2013)

    New Research Paper Published Friday Shows Homo Sapiens/Unknown Hominin Hybrid Species Extant in North America

    DALLAS, February 10th --A team of scientists will publish their five-year long study of DNA samples from a novel hominin species, commonly known as “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch,” on Friday February 15th, 2013. The results suggest that the legendary Sasquatch is extant in North America and is a human relative that arose approximately 13,000 years ago as a hybrid cross of modern Homo sapiens with an novel primate species.

    The study, “Novel North American Hominins, Next Generation Sequencing of Three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies,” was conducted by a team of experts in genetics, forensics, imaging and pathology. The team, led by Dr. Melba Ketchum of DNA Diagnostics in Nacogdoches, TX, included Dr. Pat Wojtkiecicz, Director of the North Louisiana Criminalistics Laboratory; Ms. Aliece Watts of Integrated Forensic Laboratories in Euless, TX; Mr. David Spence, Trace Evidence Supervisor at Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences; Dr. Andreas K. Holzenburg, Director of the Microscopy & Imaging Center at Texas A&M University; Dr. Douglas G. Toler of Huguley Pathology Consultants in Fort Worth, TX; Dr. Thomas M. Prychitko of Wayne State University in Michigan; Dr. Fan Zhang of the University of North Texas Health Science Center; and Sarah Bollinger, Ray Shoulders, and Ryan Smith of DNA Diagnostics.

    In total, 110 specimens of purported Sasquatch hair, blood, skin, and other tissue types were analyzed for the study. Samples were submitted by individuals and groups at 34 different hominin research sites in 14 U.S. states and two Canadian provinces. Ketchum’s team sequenced 20 whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes, as well as 3 whole nuclear genomes, from the samples.

    Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) comes from mitochondria, energy-producing organelles in the cellular cytoplasm, and is passed down on the maternal lineage across generations. Nuclear DNA (nuDNA) is the genetic information contained in the cell nucleus and is the equal combination of DNA from the parents of an individual.

    Initially a skeptic, Ketchum implemented strict protocols to ensure the scientific integrity of the study. DNA samples from submitters and scientists working with study specimens were obtained for use as controls. DNA was extracted from samples using forensic procedures to prevent contamination. Forensics experts examined the morphology of the submitted hair samples against known human and animal samples before beginning DNA testing. “We soon discovered that certain hair samples--which we would later identify as purported Sasquatch samples--had unique morphology distinguishing them from typical human and animal samples,” says Ketchum. “Those hair samples that could not be identified as known animal or human were subsequently screened using DNA testing, beginning with sequencing of mitochondrial DNA followed by sequencing nuclear DNA to determine where these individuals fit in the ‘tree of life.'”

    After extensive forensic controls to prevent contamination, mtDNA testing of the Sasquatch samples yielded fully modern human profiles. Sixteen haplotypes indicating 100% homology with modern human mtDNA sequences were observed from 20 completed whole and 10 partial mitochondrial genomes. The human mtDNA results are consistent with prior, unrelated mtDNA tests of purported Sasquatch samples from other laboratories.

    Next-generation whole genome sequencing with the HiSeq 2000 platform by Illumina was performed at the University of Texas, Southwestern on one tissue sample, a saliva sample and one blood sample to produce 3 whole genomes. In contrast to the mtDNA which was unambiguously modern human, the Sasquatch nuDNA results were a mosaic of novel primate and human sequence.

    “While the three Sasquatch nuclear genomes aligned well with one another and showed significant homology to human chromosome 11 which is highly conserved in primates, the Sasquatch genomes were novel and fell well outside of known ancient hominin as well as ape sequences,” explains Ketchum. “Because some of the mtDNA haplogroups found in our Sasquatch samples originated as late as 13,000 years ago, we are hypothesizing that the Sasquatch are human hybrids, the result of males of an unknown hominin species crossing with female Homo sapiens.”

    Hominins are members of the taxonomic grouping Hominini, which includes all members of the genus Homo.

    Comment....We have their DNA, we now only lack the body. This was no slouch study, it should recieve scientific acceptance.

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    Just imagine, those things, if they exist, may have been around for 17,000 years, watching us at war with each other. No wonder they are scared of being discovered.

    I hope they are never found.


    DC.

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    This case, with the DNA investigation, is getting some more attention, again. It's in this week's episode of Whitley Strieber's Dreamland:
    http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreaml...-possibilities

    And Linda Moulton Howe also pays attention to the case, with an 'upcoming report'. To be continued!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepCut View Post
    I hope they are never found.
    I agree, it's sad that humans are compelled to exploit everything they get their hands on.
    This isn't poetry, this is the language of reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norenrad View Post
    I agree, it's sad that humans are compelled to exploit everything they get their hands on.
    Agree as well.

    Bigfoot could be releated to Neanderthals.

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    Here is the latest on Bigfoot DNA research (thanks to our friend Victor Martinez for finding this tidbit!):


    By Kevin Dolak | ABC News BlogsThursday, October 3, 2013

    Bigfoot is real, and now at least one scientist claims there is proof.


    A group of Sasquatch researchers who have been collecting over 100 pieces of evidence over the past five years screened "never before seen HD video" of the alleged creature at a news conference in Dallas on Tuesday.

    The footage, which came from a similar effort dubbed The Erickson Project, led by Adrian Erickson, included what the group said was a sasquatch moving through wooded areas in Kentucky. Dr. Melba Ketchum, who has led the group of researchers called the Sasquatch Genome Project, has been working on a $500,000 analysis of DNA samples from an unknown hominin species. Ketchum calls the project "a serious study" that concludes the legendary Sasquatch exists in North America and is a human relative that arose
    approximately 13,000 years ago.

    "They're a type of people, they're a human-hybrid, we believe. And all of the DNA evidence points to that. And they can elude us, so if you get [footage] at all, it can be fleeting," Ketchum told ABC affiliate WFAA.

    Ketchum, who was initially a skeptic, says she implemented strict protocols as DNA was extracted from the collected samples.

    "We soon discovered that certain hair samples - which we would later identify as purported Sasquatch samples -- had unique morphology distinguishing them from typical human and animal samples," Ketchum said in February of the research.

    "Those hair samples that could not be identified as known animal or human were subsequently screened using DNA testing, beginning with sequencing of mitochondrial DNA followed by sequencing nuclear DNA to determine where these individuals fit in the 'tree of life,'" she said.

    In total, 111 specimens of purported Sasquatch hair, blood, skin, and other tissue types were analyzed for the Sasquatch Genome Project's study. The samples were submitted from 34 different hominin research sites in 14 U.S. states and two Canadian provinces.

    At Tuesday's press conference, Dennis Pfoul, the group's project manager, showed footage of footprints of what he believes belongs to a Sasquatch in the snow in Colorado.

    "We've all had experiences that have changed our lives, I mean, literally shook the foundation of what we believe in," Pfoul said at the news conference.

    Funding for the Sasquatch Genome Project comes from Erikson and entrepreneur Wally Hersom, according to Ketchum. The Erikson Project has in the past teased footage of supposed Sasquatch sightings, notable in a November 2012 trailer for "Sasquatch: The Quest." Watch the trailer here.

    Todd R. Disotell, a professor at the Department of Anthropology at New York University, told ABCNews.com that Ketchum's research is nonsense.

    "It's just a joke," he said. "She is a laughing stock of people that are of a community that are already kind of wacko."

    "This was not reported in any scientific way whatsoever. It's complete junk science, and then she misinterprets it. She hasn't published in peer-reviewed papers on this stuff. I don't know how this got put together," he said.

    Disotell says that he has disproven samples from being what they're claimed to be many times, including debunking a yeti, a chupacabra, and a sasquatch eight times, including once on ScyFy's "Joe Rogan Questions Everything."

    "You can't prove something doesn't exist," he said. "You can prove that every sample you're brought isn't what they're claiming, But you can't disprove this. It will go on forever. We'll always have it."

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    Here is one on the DNA testing of Yeti

    A British scientist says he may have solved the mystery of the yeti — the elusive ape-like creature of the Himalayas. He thinks it's a bear.

    DNA analysis conducted by Oxford University genetics professor Bryan Sykes suggests the creature is the descendant of an ancient polar bear.

    Sykes compared DNA from hair samples taken from two Himalayan animals — identified by local people as yetis — to a database of animal genomes. He found they shared a genetic fingerprint with an ancient polar bear jawbone found in the Norwegian Arctic that is at least 40,000 years old.

    Sykes said Thursday that the tests showed the creatures were not related to modern Himalayan bears but were direct descendants of the prehistoric animal.

    He said, "it may be a new species, it may be a hybrid" between polar bears and brown bears.

    "The next thing is go there and find one."

    Sykes put out a call last year for museums, scientists and yeti aficionados to share hair samples thought to be from the creature.

    One of the samples he analyzed came from an alleged Yeti mummy in the Indian region of Ladakh, at the Western edge of the Himalayas, and was taken by a French mountaineer who was shown the corpse 40 years ago.

    The other was a single hair found a decade ago in Bhutan, 1,300 kilometres to the east.

    Sykes said the fact the hair samples were found so far apart, and so recently, suggests the members of the species are still alive.

    "I can't imagine we managed to get samples from the only two 'snow bears' in the Himalayas," he said.


    Complete story here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/yeti-mi...says-1.2101120
    "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
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    10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty: The Search Begins January 10 2013



    Published on Dec 4, 2013


    Dean Cain leads professional "squatchers" and top-flight hunters to chase down visual and DNA evidence of Bigfoot, in pursuit of one of the largest cash prizes in television history. 10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty Premieres January 10 at 10/9c on SPIKE.


    Did anyone see the episode?

  10. #20
    Bigfoot accused of stealing man's pizza.


    New story at Huffington Post: Bigfoot Is Wandering Michigan Man's Property And Eating Pizza, He Claims In Police Report

    It's a run-of-the-mill case: Man claims assailant vandalized his estate, requests assistance from law enforcement.

    Only the accused, in this instance, is Bigfoot, who has allegedly been wandering around a Michigan property for more than a decade, shape-shifting and eating pizza.

    On Saturday, a 52-year-old Breckendridge, Mich. man came to the Midland law enforcement center armed with evidence, including photo albums, empty food containers, dirt and alleged Bigfoot scat, to ask for help verifying the existence of the mythical creature, according to a report from the Midland County Sheriff's Office.

    Click here to read more at Huffington Post

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