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CasperParks
01-21-2013, 07:04 AM
Giant Mars crater shows evidence of ancient lake


From NBC news: New photos of a huge crater on Mars suggest water may lurk in crevices under the planet's surface, hinting that life might have once lived there, and raising the possibility that it may live there still, researchers say.

Read more at NBC News, click here. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50529920/ns/technology_and_science-space/)

majicbar
01-21-2013, 07:44 AM
When looking at some of the Mars images from orbit I've often thought to myself that some of the terrain looks a lot like glacial terrain buried in dirt, so maybe we will someday have areas that prove to be buried glaciers and this crater may have indeed found some of the buried glaciers.

CasperParks
01-21-2013, 01:23 PM
When looking at some of the Mars images from orbit I've often thought to myself that some of the terrain looks a lot like glacial terrain buried in dirt, so maybe we will someday have areas that prove to be buried glaciers and this crater may have indeed found some of the buried glaciers.

Agree on terrian dirt covering glaciers.

I am of the mindset, there is a lot of underground water on Mars.

CasperParks
02-12-2013, 09:46 PM
Humor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS2YHMwUkSk
A little fun is needed now and then for moral.

enigphilo
02-12-2013, 10:59 PM
Ha

This rock looks cool

930

Scientists explain shiny rocks (http://www.universetoday.com/99890/scientist-explains-the-weird-shiny-thing-on-mars/)

CasperParks
03-08-2013, 06:09 AM
More evidence of water on Mars.


Mars Water: Buried Channels Discovered On Planet May Be Evidence Of Ancient 'Megafloods'

LOS ANGELES -- The face of Mars is dotted with a maze of channels, pointing to possible ancient megaflood episodes.

Now scientists peering below the surface have uncovered the first evidence of underground channels apparently created by flooding – a finding that's expected to further illuminate the role of water in Mars' history.

Using a ground-piercing radar sensor aboard the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, a team of scientists created 3-D maps of an equatorial region known as Elysium Planitia and the channels that run underneath the plains.

Besides the contributions from rovers and landers, "our view of the red planet has largely been restricted to looking at the surface" from orbiting spacecraft, said lead researcher Gareth Morgan, a planetary scientist at the Smithsonian Institution.

The research, published online Thursday in the journal Science, offers a new perspective below the Martian surface and hints of past flooding at a time when the planet was mostly thought to be cold and desert-like. The channels remained hidden because the once volcanically active region had been filled in by lava flows hundreds of millions years ago.

Read more at Huffington Post. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/07/mars-water-buried-channels-ancient-megafloods_n_2831123.html)

CasperParks
03-12-2013, 09:00 PM
Mars Curiosity Rover Finds Proof Life Could Have Thrived on Planet in Past. (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2013/03/mars-curiosity-rover-finds-proof-life-could-have-thrived-on-planet-in-past/)

NASA’s Curiosity rover, drilling into a rock near its landing site, has found clear evidence that Mars, eons ago, could have supported living microbes. Mission scientists said today, in the words of Mike Meyer, NASA’s chief Mars scientist, they’ve found “all the signs of being a habitable environment at one time.”

Scientists said they had found from previous missions that the Martian surface was once warm and wet, but now they say Curiosity has given them evidence the water was much like water on Earth — not too briny, salty or alkaline for living things.

“We have found a habitable environment that is so benign and supportive of life,” said John Grotzinger, Curiosity’s project scientist, “that if you had been on Mars, the water would have been pure enough to drink.”

Read more and watch video at ABC (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2013/03/mars-curiosity-rover-finds-proof-life-could-have-thrived-on-planet-in-past/).

Could not find upload of video at youtube.

majicbar
03-12-2013, 10:36 PM
"Read more and watch video at ABC."

"Could not find upload of video at youtube."

And so why did you try to find it on YouTube? I'll bet going to ABC will give you a stronger chance of finding it, IMO.

CasperParks
03-12-2013, 10:59 PM
"Read more and watch video at ABC."

"Could not find upload of video at youtube."

And so why did you try to find it on YouTube? I'll bet going to ABC will give you a stronger chance of finding it, IMO.

The embeded code for posting the video from ABC to TOP would not work.

majicbar
03-12-2013, 11:27 PM
The embeded code for posting the video from ABC to TOP would not work.

There is a conflict in my computer over allowing the "Flash Player" to work, perhaps this is why the ABC site does not work. It drives me NUTS this conflict between Microsoft and other vendors.

CasperParks
03-13-2013, 04:45 AM
Curiosity's Mars Rock Drilling Discussed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvCfOVGHWCc

Doc
03-13-2013, 02:36 PM
http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/mars-could-once-supported-life-know-030350124.html

Excerpt:

Mars Could Once Have Supported Life: What You Need to Know

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Mars was capable of supporting microbial life in the distant past, scientists announced today (March 12).
They reached this conclusion after studying the latest observations from NASA's Curiosity rover (http://www.space.com/17963-mars-curiosity.html), which just analyzed the first-ever sample collected from the interior of a Red Planet rock.

majicbar
03-13-2013, 02:58 PM
Danger Will Robinson!
Along with a good AntiVirus package, timely system updates are the best defense for your system.
Keep current, or risk infection/loss of personal data.

Microsoft's latest patches address new USB hack

The software giant discovers a Windows vulnerability that lets attackers gain access to data in locked or logged-off computers with a USB thumb drive.
by Dara Kerr

A new kind of vulnerability popped up recently, one that lets hackers stick a USB thumb drive into a computer -- even if it's logged-off or locked -- type out a bit of attack code and steal whatever data they want.

In an effort to avoid this type of cyberattack, Microsoft issued its monthly software patches today and included a fix for this Windows vulnerability called MS13-027. This vulnerability lets a hacker get into the computer with a thumb drive and take over administrative privileges.

"When the Windows USB device drivers enumerate the device, parsing a specially crafted descriptor, the attacker could cause the system to execute malicious code in the context of the Windows kernel," Microsoft wrote in a blog post today. "Because the vulnerability is triggered during device enumeration, no user intervention is required. In fact, the vulnerability can be triggered when the workstation is locked or when no user is logged in, making this an un-authenticated elevation of privilege for an attacker with casual physical access to the machine."
Story Continues (http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57573972-75/microsofts-latest-patches-address-new-usb-hack/)

I'd suggest this should be posted in the Saloon, this is a very important story and a distrubing development. I know the military/DOD is not allowing the use of any thumb drives inside the milnet.

majicbar
03-13-2013, 03:02 PM
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20130312.html

NASA Rover Finds Conditions Once Suited for Ancient Life on Mars

03.12.13

PASADENA, Calif. -- An analysis of a rock sample collected by NASA's Curiosity rover shows ancient Mars could have supported living microbes.

Scientists identified sulfur, nitrogen, hydrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and carbon -- some of the key chemical ingredients for life -- in the powder Curiosity drilled out of a sedimentary rock near an ancient stream bed in Gale Crater on the Red Planet last month.

"A fundamental question for this mission is whether Mars could have supported a habitable environment," said Michael Meyer, lead scientist for NASA's Mars Exploration Program at the agency's headquarters in Washington. "From what we know now, the answer is yes."

Clues to this habitable environment come from data returned by the rover's Sample Analysis at Mars (SAM) and Chemistry and Mineralogy (CheMin) instruments. The data indicate the Yellowknife Bay area the rover is exploring was the end of an ancient river system or an intermittently wet lake bed that could have provided chemical energy and other favorable conditions for microbes. The rock is made up of a fine-grained mudstone containing clay minerals, sulfate minerals and other chemicals. This ancient wet environment, unlike some others on Mars, was not harshly oxidizing, acidic or extremely salty.

The patch of bedrock where Curiosity drilled for its first sample lies in an ancient network of stream channels descending from the rim of Gale Crater. The bedrock also is fine-grained mudstone and shows evidence of multiple periods of wet conditions, including nodules and veins.

Curiosity's drill collected the sample at a site just a few hundred yards away from where the rover earlier found an ancient streambed in September 2012.

"Clay minerals make up at least 20 percent of the composition of this sample," said David Blake, principal investigator for the CheMin instrument at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif.

These clay minerals are a product of the reaction of relatively fresh water with igneous minerals, such as olivine, also present in the sediment. The reaction could have taken place within the sedimentary deposit, during transport of the sediment, or in the source region of the sediment. The presence of calcium sulfate along with the clay suggests the soil is neutral or mildly alkaline.

Scientists were surprised to find a mixture of oxidized, less-oxidized, and even non-oxidized chemicals, providing an energy gradient of the sort many microbes on Earth exploit to live. This partial oxidation was first hinted at when the drill cuttings were revealed to be gray rather than red.

"The range of chemical ingredients we have identified in the sample is impressive, and it suggests pairings such as sulfates and sulfides that indicate a possible chemical energy source for micro-organisms," said Paul Mahaffy, principal investigator of the SAM suite of instruments at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

An additional drilled sample will be used to help confirm these results for several of the trace gases analyzed by the SAM instrument.

"We have characterized a very ancient, but strangely new 'gray Mars' where conditions once were favorable for life," said John Grotzinger, Mars Science Laboratory project scientist at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, Calif. "Curiosity is on a mission of discovery and exploration, and as a team we feel there are many more exciting discoveries ahead of us in the months and years to come."

Scientists plan to work with Curiosity in the "Yellowknife Bay" area for many more weeks before beginning a long drive to Gale Crater's central mound, Mount Sharp. Investigating the stack of layers exposed on Mount Sharp, where clay minerals and sulfate minerals have been identified from orbit, may add information about the duration and diversity of habitable conditions.

NASA's Mars Science Laboratory Project has been using Curiosity to investigate whether an area within Mars' Gale Crater ever has offered an environment favorable for microbial life. Curiosity, carrying 10 science instruments, landed seven months ago to begin its two-year prime mission. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., manages the project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington.

For more about the mission, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/msl and http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/ . You can follow the mission on Facebook and Twitter at: http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity and http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity

Doc
03-13-2013, 03:40 PM
I'd suggest this should be posted in the Saloon, this is a very important story and a distrubing development. I know the military/DOD is not allowing the use of any thumb drives inside the milnet.

I copied it and moved it to Cutting Edge Technology for him, as I'm sure he meant to post it there. You can start a thread on it if you like and we can sort out any duplication later.

calikid
03-13-2013, 11:35 PM
I copied it and moved it to Cutting Edge Technology for him, as I'm sure he meant to post it there. You can start a thread on it if you like and we can sort out any duplication later.

Thanks for moving the post.
My mistake; posted to wrong thread by accident.

CaliKid

CasperParks
03-17-2013, 03:47 AM
Mars Once Habitable on This Week @NASA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R4RdLkieG0

CasperParks
03-28-2013, 11:01 PM
A Dutch start-up named Mars One is hoping to send a select group of brave astronauts on a one-way trip to the Red Planet in the year 2023 with the aim of establishing a permanent human colony.

If all proceeds as planned, Mars One would launch four astronauts on the interplanetary voyage in 2022, landing the team on the surface of Mars in 2023, after which they would begin constructing the colony. Every two years, a team of four additional astronauts would arrive to reinforce the existing colony.

Founded in 2010 by 36-year-old engineer Bas Lansdorp, Mars One says it has developed a road map and financing plan for the project, and that the mission is perfectly feasible. "Mars One has developed a precise, realistic plan based entirely upon existing technologies," the website says. "It is both economically and logically feasible, in motion through the integration of existing suppliers and experts in space exploration."

Lansdorp told ABC News the primary colony, which will consist of several interlocked modules, will include small bedrooms, a larger common room, and areas for computer and research work. "It will look a lot like an Arctic station," said Lansdorp.

Read more at ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/International/dutch-company-offering-trip-mars/story?id=18832412#.UVS8ypZN-9U)

epo333
03-29-2013, 02:45 AM
Read more at ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/International/dutch-company-offering-trip-mars/story?id=18832412#.UVS8ypZN-9U)

Ya know, I was just thinking yesterday, why we don't have "one-way" explorers like the brave souls that plowed the oceans in feeble wooden ships 2 or 3 hundred years ago. Out of the several billions of people we have pumped out on this planet, I'm sure there are many who would jump at the chance for a oneway trip of this rock!

Must be the $$$ thing...:bleh:

CasperParks
06-21-2013, 06:47 AM
NASA released billion-pixel images of Mars. Below is a youtube video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFQJNAv8vqE

The video at CBS is better focused:
View decent video at CBS News, click here. (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50149293n)

CasperParks
07-11-2013, 12:37 AM
JPL News: Proposed 2020 Mars Rover Science Goals (http://www.youtube.com/user/JPLnews/videos)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cU5MWtEs4L4

Published on Jul 9, 2013

A team of scientists and engineers gives proposals for NASA's 2020 Mars rover mission.

CasperParks
07-19-2013, 11:42 PM
Mars' atmosphere destroyed by 'catastrophic' event (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCosmosNews/videos)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuF6qkR-Yxo

Published on Jul 19, 2013

majicbar
09-19-2013, 10:29 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24165219

Curiosity rover has failed to detect methane in the atmosphere of Mars, which other telescopes are said to see, and by a factor of 6. If there were current production of methane to any extent there should be methane within the atmosphere where Curiosity is roving. There may be a chance that the methane level is lower than the detector on Curiosity and that methane is concentrated in the upper atmosphere of Mars, but that would be very low and below what would be expected of any common source in the ground of Mars.

CasperParks
12-11-2013, 03:29 AM
History of fresh water on Mars?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRO3ZeStQQc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k7cjpTc

CasperParks
04-06-2014, 01:02 AM
Mars viewing update.


NBC News: Red Planet Rising: Mars Shines Brighter Than It Has in Years (http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/red-planet-rising-mars-shines-brighter-it-has-years-n72501)

If you want to see Mars at its best, now's your time: This month, the Red Planet looks bigger and brighter than it has for the past six years.

That may sound like the Great Mars Hoax — the occasional (and totally false) claim that Mars will loom as big as the moon in the night sky. But in this case, the claim is totally true. This month, Mars will have its closest encounter with Earth since December 2007.

The reason has to do with orbital mechanics. As Earth and Mars trace their elliptical orbits around the sun, the distance between the two planets varies dramatically. There are times when the separation amounts to almost 250 million miles (400 million kilometers). On April 14, that separation narrows to a mere 57 million miles (92 million kilometers).

"These opportunities only come about every two years," said Alan MacRobert, senior editor for Sky & Telescope magazine. "Most of the time, Mars is pretty darn far away."

Mars is easy to spot in the night sky: For skywatchers living in mid-northern latitudes, it sparkles like a yellow-orange gem in the southeast just after dark. By the middle of the month, the planet will get as bright as the star Sirius. Mars is currently moving through the constellation Virgo — which means it makes a pretty pairing with Spica, a nearby blue-white star.

Click here for entire article at NBC News: Red Planet Rising: Mars Shines Brighter Than It Has in Years (http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/red-planet-rising-mars-shines-brighter-it-has-years-n72501)

CasperParks
05-23-2014, 12:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gV7LX0tLDw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kaOPVNdbKk

CasperParks
08-29-2014, 09:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09z-NEc1KU
Is There Life On Mars?

majicbar
09-06-2014, 06:43 PM
http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2013/10/Hebes_Chasma_mesa



http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2013/10/hebes_chasma_mesa/13063455-1-eng-GB/Hebes_Chasma_mesa.jpg

Detail of the odd square depression in Hebes Chasma as posted on Earthfiles.com site.

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2013/10/hebes_chasma/13062676-1-eng-GB/Hebes_Chasma.jpg

Context view of Hebes Chasma, the area of the detail is uncertain by first inspection. There are several squarish sites that are visible but do not match the detail area. This would seem to be a possible alien mining site given the odd detail, but of course there should be a natural explanation shouldn't there? This image was taken some time ago by Mars Express and released on October 10, 2013. images © by ESA, DLR, FU Berlin and G. Neukum.

CasperParks
09-06-2014, 06:58 PM
http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2013/10/Hebes_Chasma_mesa

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2013/10/hebes_chasma_mesa/13063455-1-eng-GB/Hebes_Chasma_mesa.jpg

Detail of the odd square depression in Hebes Chasma as posted on Earthfiles.com site.

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2013/10/hebes_chasma/13062676-1-eng-GB/Hebes_Chasma.jpg

Context view of Hebes Chasma, the area of the detail is uncertain by first inspection. There are several squarish sites that are visible but do not match the detail area. This would seem to be a possible alien mining site given the odd detail, but of course there should be a natural explanation shouldn't there? This image was taken some time ago by Mars Express and released on October 10, 2013. images © by ESA, DLR, FU Berlin and G. Neukum.

Agree, does appear as if mining was done.

CasperParks
09-21-2014, 07:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hm8b-L62y4

rdunk
09-22-2014, 12:04 AM
Quote from the 8/29/2014 video posted above: "No Mars Surface Explorer Robots Have Found Traces Of Intelligent Life".

Well, that is what "some" might try to lead us to think, but that is not the truth, "at least for what I see", in the Mars Rover and Mars Orbiter photos - plenty of more than "traces" of intelligent life in the data we have. There is simply so much sign/evidence of intelligent life we have seen on Mars, it is amazing to me that the reality of it remains hidden from the general public, by whoever the "non-disclosure" folks are - amongst us! :mad::mad: ::biggrin2:

CasperParks
09-22-2014, 05:57 AM
Quote from the 8/29/2014 video posted above: "No Mars Surface Explorer Robots Have Found Traces Of Intelligent Life".

Well, that is what "some" might try to lead us to think, but that is not the truth, "at least for what I see", in the Mars Rover and Mars Orbiter photos - plenty of more than "traces" of intelligent life in the data we have. There is simply so much sign/evidence of intelligent life we have seen on Mars, it is amazing to me that the reality of it remains hidden from the general public, by whoever the "non-disclosure" folks are - amongst us! :mad::mad: ::biggrin2:

Sunday night, I watched live coverage from NASA TV as Maven entered Mars orbit. From what I understand, there are no cameras on the spacecraft. That doesn't make sense. Maven is there to study atmosphere using instruments. Maybe weight was an issue. Cost of adding a camera would not have been that much when consider the budget for the mission.

Based on photos, I suspect there are ancient structures on Mars.

Near the later half of the video in question produced by Alltime Conspiracies (http://www.youtube.com/user/AlltimeConspiracies/featured), it does raise the possibility of water on Mars. Toward end of the video, it raises the possibility of frozen water under the surface of Mars, and if so life may exist under the surface. That is not a word for word quote...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMUQXYlThBE&list=UUPZiqlNI3RLyF47QTdq93GQ

Alltime Conspiracies (http://www.youtube.com/user/AlltimeConspiracies/featured)did the above video. While not drawing any conclusions, it allows viewers to make their own judgments. Do we trust NASA with total truth? NASA does control the photos seen by the public.

CasperParks
09-22-2014, 06:09 AM
For a listing of missions to Mars at Wikipedia dot org click here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_Mars)

It provides a list of nations that sent a mission to Mars. Detailed dates and failures, partial failures, partial success, operational, successful listed by nation.

Garuda
09-24-2014, 02:17 PM
Video, released by NASA on what Mars could have looked like.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKPrwY0Ycno

Article at: http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/coronal-mass-ejections-at-mars/#.VCKBThbMBO4

epo333
10-11-2014, 02:30 AM
More Mars:::

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00703/mcam/0703MR0029770280402315E01_DXXX.jpg
(Item at upper left)

I was able to blow this up to 400% on my desk top. . .looked like a VW with tank type treads with a boom of some sort on the front...!

?

CasperParks
10-11-2014, 05:16 AM
More Mars:::

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00703/mcam/0703MR0029770280402315E01_DXXX.jpg
(Item at upper left)

I was able to blow this up to 400% on my desk top. . .looked like a VW with tank type treads with a boom of some sort on the front...!

?

Took a few seconds to find it. Generally speaking, I don't think rocks form pointy-things like a boom.

CasperParks
11-23-2014, 08:41 AM
Paranormal Crucible posted this video: Skull discovered on Mars. (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4-QONmC8yIo9dKl5vUHlfw/videos)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dCP5IyEBRI

Surface of Mars is vast. What are the odds that one of rovers would come across something like this? Odds of it happening does not equal impossible. It does look like a skull. Any thoughts?

calikid
11-23-2014, 01:51 PM
What was the NASA quote about The Face On Mars?
"Trick of light and shadows"?
If it is un-retouched, Looks like a human skull to me!

CasperParks
11-23-2014, 05:01 PM
What was the NASA quote about The Face On Mars?
"Trick of light and shadows"?
If it is un-retouched, Looks like a human skull to me!

If it is a human skull it raises a number of questions. This is not like someone on Earth digging up an ancient skull. What happened on the planet? Did a war lay everything to waste on Mars?

Will Disclosure shed light on anything like this?

majicbar
11-24-2014, 12:02 AM
If it is a human skull it raises a number of questions. This is not like someone on Earth digging up an ancient skull. What happened on the planet? Did a war lay everything to waste on Mars?

Will Disclosure shed light on anything like this?

Unfortunately with the higher resolution photographs of the latest generation of photographic survey it does indeed look like the description as a trick of light and shadows is accurate. If these structures are billions of years old then we might not be able to tell natural from alien constructed structures. Were these 'artifacts' from a more recent time then archeological patterns would be evident, as they are in the Egyptian desert artifacts. If on the otherhand, all building materials were flown in, there
might not be the same kinds of clues of construction. The NASA site at the University of Arizona which hosts the images of Mars has not shown any images with signs of habitation, were Mars the site of habitation and civilization those clues would be visible, and they are not.

CasperParks
11-24-2014, 02:52 AM
Unfortunately with the higher resolution photographs of the latest generation of photographic survey it does indeed look like the description as a trick of light and shadows is accurate. If these structures are billions of years old then we might not be able to tell natural from alien constructed structures. Were these 'artifacts' from a more recent time then archeological patterns would be evident, as they are in the Egyptian desert artifacts. If on the otherhand, all building materials were flown in, there might not be the same kinds of clues of construction. The NASA site at the University of Arizona which hosts the images of Mars has not shown any images with signs of habitation, were Mars the site of habitation and civilization those clues would be visible, and they are not.

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majicbar
11-24-2014, 01:25 PM
Unfortunately with the higher resolution photographs of the latest generation of photographic survey it does indeed look like the description as a trick of light and shadows is accurate. If these structures are billions of years old then we might not be able to tell natural from alien constructed structures. Were these 'artifacts' from a more recent time then archeological patterns would be evident, as they are in the Egyptian desert artifacts. If on the otherhand, all building materials were flown in, there
might not be the same kinds of clues of construction. The NASA site at the University of Arizona which hosts the images of Mars has not shown any images with signs of habitation, were Mars the site of habitation and civilization those clues would be visible, and they are not.
Let me amend that to say there may yet be sites of alien sites, or bases. While I do not recognize a civilization on Mars, there are some sites of analomous indicators which may indicate ancient alien bases. We have yet to survey Mars completely at fine resolution so more recent alien activities or crash sites may yet be found. I recall as well a site where a monumental boulder was noted reminicent of the 2001 monolith and finding that it was part of a triangle geomarker.

CasperParks
11-24-2014, 08:07 PM
Let me amend that to say there may yet be sites of alien sites, or bases. While I do not recognize a civilization on Mars, there are some sites of analomous indicators which may indicate ancient alien bases. We have yet to survey Mars completely at fine resolution so more recent alien activities or crash sites may yet be found. I recall as well a site where a monumental boulder was noted reminicent of the 2001 monolith and finding that it was part of a triangle geomarker.

Most people assume Mars was laid desolate millions or billions of years ago. More and more discoveries are made here on Earth that alter perceptions of human history.

Consider archaeology discoveries on this planet in 2014 alone, cities lost to sands or waters of time unearthed.

Archaeologists and geologists remaining steadfast that older theories are not subject to change are willfully ignorant.

What do we truly know about Martian history? Not much... Theories are scientific guesses, based on what little knowledge they have.

Martian history at this point is a mystery.

CasperParks
12-05-2014, 04:09 PM
Orion launch successful. (http://www.nasa.gov/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEuOpxOrA_0&list=UULA_DiR1FfKNvjuUpBHmylQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThVdnyokBME

Click here to visit NASA website (http://www.nasa.gov/)

majicbar
12-07-2014, 12:08 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/05/mars-mound-lava-flows-nasa_n_6275490.html

http://www.uahirise.org/ESP_038646_1805

Mars is a very interesting place. The feature shown in this image would most likely be volcanic in origin, but what is missing is what was on the surface when it was made. Mars used to have oceans, and at one point was perhaps entirely covered with glaciers, or mostly so. Many areas on Mars seem to be like a tundra, icy, dusty swampy in the distant past, they thus have unique geologies which we do not see here on Earth.

CasperParks
12-07-2014, 02:15 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/05/mars-mound-lava-flows-nasa_n_6275490.html

http://www.uahirise.org/ESP_038646_1805

Mars is a very interesting place. The feature shown in this image would most likely be volcanic in origin, but what is missing is what was on the surface when it was made. Mars used to have oceans, and at one point was perhaps entirely covered with glaciers, or mostly so. Many areas on Mars seem to be like a tundra, icy, dusty swampy in the distant past, they thus have unique geologies which we do not see here on Earth.

I am of the mindset that a major event in this solar system altered orbits.

Claiming an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter formed when the solar system was born may or may not be correct. Is that rubble the remains of a small planet? Are claims correct, there is not enough rubble to support the small planet theory? Depends how much of debris remained in the solar system. Mars has a number of huge impact sights as does Earth's moon. Did an event in this solar system lay Mars to waste? Was a planet destroyed, leaving a debris field? That remains a mystery.

Another theory, Mars laid to waste and creation of an asteroid belt are two separate events. Space exploration could answer many questions.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrbCAoiyUNw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWXwQXX6u9w

majicbar
12-07-2014, 03:22 AM
I am of the mindset that a major event in this solar system altered orbits.

Claiming an asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter formed when the solar system was born may or may not be correct. Is that rubble the remains of a small planet? Are claims correct, there is not enough rubble to support the small planet theory? Depends how much of debris remained in the solar system. Mars has a number of huge impact sights as does Earth's moon. Did an event in this solar system lay Mars to waste? Was a planet destroyed, leaving a debris field? That remains a mystery.

Another theory, Mars laid to waste and creation of an asteroid belt are two separate events. Space exploration could answer many questions.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrbCAoiyUNw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWXwQXX6u9w

The meteorites that land on the Earth are clues to what happened to the asteroids and Mars. We have meteors from Mars and they clearly show that Mars has undergone more recent evolutionary processes than have the meteorites that come from the asteroids. Meteorites from the asteroids show several separate classes which are related to Ceres, Vesta and a couple of other giant asteroids, while the remainder show they belong to various other asteroids with evidence of being fully evolved but from smaller asteroids than the Ceres and Vesta class asteroids. Had there been a major reordering of the orbits of the planets the asteroids would have been disturbed and they would not be nearly circular as they are seen today. One possibility might be that a larger asteroid hit Mars and the asteroids were the remainders of that collision, like the Earth Moon collision but Jupiters gravity prevented the asteroids from forming a Moon like moon with Mars. Only when we have much more material from Mars and the asteroids will we have a better picture of what actually happened.

CasperParks
12-07-2014, 04:16 AM
The meteorites that land on the Earth are clues to what happened to the asteroids and Mars. We have meteors from Mars and they clearly show that Mars has undergone more recent evolutionary processes than have the meteorites that come from the asteroids. Meteorites from the asteroids show several separate classes which are related to Ceres, Vesta and a couple of other giant asteroids, while the remainder show they belong to various other asteroids with evidence of being fully evolved but from smaller asteroids than the Ceres and Vesta class asteroids. Had there been a major reordering of the orbits of the planets the asteroids would have been disturbed and they would not be nearly circular as they are seen today. One possibility might be that a larger asteroid hit Mars and the asteroids were the remainders of that collision, like the Earth Moon collision but Jupiters gravity prevented the asteroids from forming a Moon like moon with Mars. Only when we have much more material from Mars and the asteroids will we have a better picture of what actually happened.

We cannot afford to linger, space exploration is needed.

majicbar
12-07-2014, 05:04 AM
We cannot afford to linger, space exploration is needed.

In five months the Dawn mission will approach the asteroid Ceres and we will learn a lot about it's geology and history. Ceres is the largest asteroid and it's status as the largest planetesmial will help us categorize the development between it's class and a true planet. Japan has a mission to recover material from an asteroid which may confirm a bridge between asteroids and comets, or firmly differentiate between them.

In July we will have the Pluto flyby and will we will see large quasi planet planetesimals, or find that these are ejected moons of Neptune. In either case they will broaden our knowledge on the history and mechanisms of planet building in the early Solar System.

CasperParks
03-06-2015, 05:02 PM
History of water on Mars, NASA - Goddard (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAY-SMFNfynqz1bdoaV8BeQ)

Short version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s_SsAMuusg

Longer version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH8kHncLZwM

CasperParks
03-06-2015, 05:15 PM
:ufo:
Private companies planning to colonize Mars are showing up on television shows.

Castle had one where they had to solve a murder at a training site.

Big Bang Theory, Sheldon and Amy applied to become colonists. Side note when the series does end, I would not be surprised if it included Sheldon and Amy accepted and starting a training program.

Waiting to see if one of the networks starts a new series that involves colony on Mars and or training site.

:ufo:

CasperParks
03-21-2015, 04:41 AM
Check out the impact sites on Mars' moons, click photo to enlarge.

1322

Short article at Space Ref website, click here for website. (http://spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?utm_content=api&utm_campaign=&pid=46927&utm_medium=srs.gs-twitter&utm_source=t.co)

CasperParks
05-20-2016, 04:09 AM
ABC News article - Mars May Have Been Hit by Mega-Tsunamis Billions of Years Ago, click for full article. (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/mars-hit-mega-tsunamis-billions-years-ago/story?id=39226177)


Evidence of powerful ancient tsunamis on Mars are lending new credibility to the idea the red planet was once home to a northern ocean.

Scientists have long believed ancient Mars had a northern ocean but had struggled to support the theory with evidence. A new study published in the journal Nature details how two mega-tsunamis may have devastated the Martian coast billions of years ago, carrying with them sediment and reshaping the coastal terrain.

Mars May Have Been Hit by Mega-Tsunamis Billions of Years Ago, click for full news article at ABC. (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/mars-hit-mega-tsunamis-billions-years-ago/story?id=39226177)

aquila
07-11-2016, 02:57 PM
a one way trip to mars ??

a one way trip to mars would be appropriate for cactus seed, grass seed, dandylions, sunflower ..

it would be interesting to see if the seeds take root.

a one way trip to mars involving human cargo probably would not work out for lack of sufficient oxygen and nutrients.

the technology to take man to mars on a return mission exists. however, this would not involve rocketry.

calikid
07-13-2016, 01:46 AM
a one way trip to mars ??

a one way trip to mars would be appropriate for cactus seed, grass seed, dandylions, sunflower ..

it would be interesting to see if the seeds take root.

a one way trip to mars involving human cargo probably would not work out for lack of sufficient oxygen and nutrients.

the technology to take man to mars on a return mission exists. however, this would not involve rocketry.

On the flip side there is much talk about NOT contaminating other worlds.
Ever see photos of probe prep labs? Looks like a squeaky clean surgical suite.

If life is ever discovered, "they" claim it is important it is not life we inadvertently transported.

Me? I'd love to drop a few of those hard-to-kill cockroaches on Mars. See if the planet can kill those pests. Ha! :D

Wally
07-13-2016, 05:30 AM
On the flip side there is much talk about NOT contaminating other worlds.
Ever see photos of probe prep labs? Looks like a squeaky clean surgical suite.

If life is ever discovered, "they" claim it is important it is not life we inadvertently transported.

Me? I'd love to drop a few of those hard-to-kill cockroaches on Mars. See if the planet can kill those pests. Ha! :D

Send some of those little tardigrades to Mars, or Titan, or maybe even Jupiter or Saturn? While terraforming sounds cool I would suggest waiting to make absolutely sure there are no indigenous species already there that we may be endangering.

calikid
07-14-2016, 12:45 AM
Send some of those little tardigrades to Mars, or Titan, or maybe even Jupiter or Saturn? While terraforming sounds cool I would suggest waiting to make absolutely sure there are no indigenous species already there that we may be endangering.

Good call Wally. I hear those "water bears" are tough little guys to kill!
If they can only find something to eat on Mars, they'd probably feel right at home.
https://featuredcreature.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tumblr_n5qm7lDYPu1qc6j5yo1_400.gif

touched
11-23-2016, 02:34 AM
Did Mars Rover Find a Signature of Past Life ?

http://www.space.com/34795-mars-life-nasa-spirit-rover.html#undefined.gbpl

Potential biosignature ?

touched
11-23-2016, 06:01 AM
Continued -

quote from article

"Here we report remarkably similar features within active hot spring/geyser discharge channels at El Tatio in northern Chile, where halite-encrusted silica yields infrared spectra that are the BEST MATCH YET to SPECTRA from Spirit. Furthermore, we show that the nodular and digitate silica structures at El Tatio that most closely resemble those on Mars include complex sedimentary structures produced by a combination of biotic and abiotic processes. Although fully abiotic processes are not ruled out for the Martian silica structures, they satisfy an a priori definition of potential biosignatures."

CONTINUE HERE :
http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13554

Doc
11-30-2016, 04:36 AM
Year after year, decade after decade, the talk always returns to Mars; evidence of life there, plans to someday go there, dreams of colonizing--all punctuated by films about Mars. I think it is a pretty sure thing that we will go there, possibly in the next twenty years. The will to mount another space program like we had in years gone by has been lacking.
Lately the talk seems more optimistic, sometimes almost insistent. I've got my fingers crossed. :ufo:

M-Albion-3D
11-30-2016, 06:43 PM
Year after year, decade after decade, the talk always returns to Mars; evidence of life there, plans to someday go there, dreams of colonizing--all punctuated by films about Mars. I think it is a pretty sure thing that we will go there, possibly in the next twenty years. The will to mount another space program like we had in years gone by has been lacking.
Lately the talk seems more optimistic, sometimes almost insistent. I've got my fingers crossed. :ufo:

Depending who one talks to and one's scientific persuasion, as of this moment in time, there are many who would say, there are several hundred thousand humans already on Mars! But you see, that's just too fantastic to believe, right?

The western world and indeed probably a good portion of the east; Russia, India and China control the consciousness of the masses, by employing what many call "The Goebbels Doctrine" which states along the lines of; "the greater and more fantastic the lie, the more it is believed". Of course, the only way to make sure the doctrine actually works, is to keep on maintaining the lie.

We all know that lying has one problem, "the truth will eventually be exposed and will prevail". But this "kink" in "mass lying" works quite well with the policie of the so called "Secret Keepers" as Jim Marrs likes to call them.

Lies and Time, go hand in hand because they know the truth with eventually surface and in the matter of "life out there" they need several decades to "spread the truth" very thinly indeed. Every morsel of truth is measured precisely simply because; "this is the biggest lie that has ever been perpetuated on the human race". In real terms, the truth and reality of what is really happening "off planet" makes the Manhattan Project look like a bedtime story fable.

In the past five years or so, a number of so called "whistle blowers" have surfaced with consistent tales to tell, all of which the mainstream conscious rejects immediately with joke and a giggle - "How can this be" go the cries of fakery and rejection!

Life on Mars at one time had a certain ring to it, people back then, had a mass mind idea of what life could be like on the Red Planet. But slowly and surely the mass mind was steered off to believing "there's no life out there, because that's what our best scientist's tell us and you can believe them - because they are scientists blah blahblah!"

The truth is however, so fantastic, so incredulous, so well...unbelievable, if it came out in full, with no strings attached, unfortunately, the entire infrastructure of our human society as we know it, would dematerialize almost overnight!


Here's a fascinating lecture by one of my favorite minds in the world today- Richard Thieme discussing the question - “should we know”-

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiWjYzTGpfWXota00/view?usp=sharing

http://www.thiemeworks.com/

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a528/marsevidence01/RT%20Liv_zpsgcawkagz.jpg


However, "fear not" all truth seekers out there! If you seek the truth, the one place to research, is in the super high definition images taken by the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter or MRO.

It does take time and patience at close quarters though but with good software (I recommend Irfanview http://www.irfanview.com/) eventually you will start to recognize the "signature of design". But be cautioned; "life on Mars" will NOT be what you expect and as you begin to piece the patterns together, the reality will take hold and tell a story of high strangness the likes of which will change your life forever!


For other reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_cultural_impact_of_extraterrestrial_cont act


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CasperParks
12-29-2016, 05:32 AM
National Geographic has an interactive "scrolling feature" for history on Mars titled "Rewind The Red Planet" click here to visit website (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2016/11/exploring-mars-map-panorama-pictures/#.WGSO77k1z2g.twitter).

M-Albion-3D
12-29-2016, 11:41 PM
National Geographic has an interactive "scrolling feature" for history on Mars titled "Rewind The Red Planet" click here to visit website (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2016/11/exploring-mars-map-panorama-pictures/#.WGSO77k1z2g.twitter).

Thanks Casper, great link, enjoyed it much!

Flying over Mars by the DLR...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiZVNnLWp0RklzUnc/view?usp=sharing

CasperParks
07-11-2020, 05:26 PM
NASA's Perseverance Mars Rove...
Send your name to Mars, link click here. (https://mars.nasa.gov/participate/send-your-name/mars2020/)

Launch date, July 30th 2020!

Preview video of mission posted on Nov 28, 2017 from NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s595S1Vf3PE

CasperParks
07-13-2020, 10:02 PM
New videos from NASA about Mars Perseverance Rover
Launching Summer, 2020 (https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m95j0rM9Zs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qA9iaAUo8k


Quick Facts from NASA Website. (https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/)

Mission Name: Mars 2020

Rover Name: Perseverance

Main Job: The Perseverance rover will seek signs of ancient life and collect rock and soil samples for possible return to Earth.

Launch Window: July 30 - Aug. 15, 2020

Launch Location: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida

Landing: Feb. 18, 2021

Landing Site: Jezero Crater, Mars

Mission Duration: At least one Mars year (about 687 Earth days)

Tech Demo: The Mars Helicopter is a technology demonstration, hitching a ride on the Perseverance rover.

CasperParks
07-14-2020, 07:59 PM
NASA’s Ingenuity Mars Helicopter: Attempting the First Powered Flight on Mars (https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwdfdE6ruMw


Quick facts from NASA website (https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/)

Name: Ingenuity

Main Job: A technology demonstration to test the first powered flight on Mars. The helicopter will ride to Mars attached to the belly of the Perseverance rover.

Launch Window: July 30 - Aug. 15, 2020

Launch Location: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida

Landing: Feb. 18, 2021

Landing Site: Jezero Crater, Mars

Length of Mission: One or more flights within 30 days

CasperParks
07-21-2020, 02:31 AM
Six NASA Technologies to Get Humans to Mars (https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/6_Technologies_NASA_is_Advancing_to_Send_Humans_to _Mars)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0f-QkEVU7U

CasperParks
11-29-2020, 10:51 PM
NASA is promoting "Send Your Name To Mars".
Click here to sign-up at NASA website. (https://mars.nasa.gov/participate/send-your-name/mars2020?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=NASA&utm_campaign=NASASocial&linkId=105723138)

tmcom
12-08-2020, 08:46 AM
Humor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS2YHMwUkSk
A little fun is needed now and then for moral.

I have studied that one and it is a reflective rock that looks like a gopher, sorry.

tmcom
01-30-2021, 02:55 AM
Should be some interesting anomolies in this.

https://mars.nasa.gov/resources/curiositys-1-8-billion-pixel-panorama/?site=msl

:)

CasperParks
09-22-2021, 10:17 PM
NASA: Is There Oxygen on Mars? (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-perseverance-mars-rover-extracts-first-oxygen-from-red-planet)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1viNk1eNnM

Click here to read article at NASA:
Perseverance Mars Rover Extracts First Oxygen from Red Planet (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-perseverance-mars-rover-extracts-first-oxygen-from-red-planet)

CasperParks
12-21-2021, 09:39 PM
Explore Mars' Jezero Crater with NASA’s Perseverance Rover (https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-perseverance-mars-rover-makes-surprising-discoveries)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOplTCgnJFQ

CasperParks
10-30-2023, 02:52 AM
Article at Smithsonian: "Mars’ Core May Be Smaller Than Thought, Wrapped in a Sea of Molten Rock." (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/mars-core-may-be-smaller-than-thought-wrapped-in-a-sea-of-molten-rock-180983142/)


Quote from article: Based on seismic waves from a meteorite impact, two teams of scientists suggest the Red Planet has another layer deep beneath its surface.

CasperParks
12-31-2023, 12:08 AM
Article at universal-sci.com "New Martian mystery: Scientists discovered that Mars' rotation is accelerating," click here to read. (https://www.universal-sci.com/article/mars-rotation-is-accelerating)