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krazyken
12-05-2013, 02:44 AM
Full color images of a CD Rom or similar metallic object on Mars. I am beginning to think that all the Curiosity Rover images are taken on earth. Can someone be putting these objects their on purpose to let us know that the rover images are all bogus. Even J.P. Skipper is beginning to believe this also!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIuxCVxx7dQ

Image 1 (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00309/mcam/0309MR1275062000E1_DXXX.jpg)

Image 2 (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00309/mcam/0309MR1275061000E1_DXXX.jpg)

J.P. Skipper: MARS LITTERBUG (http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2013/231/mars-litterbug-1.htm)

KK

CasperParks
12-05-2013, 06:09 AM
Looks like a DVD or CD.

majicbar
12-05-2013, 07:07 PM
Covers of various ports on the lander were jettisoned when the reentry shell separated, this might be one of these covers. That it is not dust covered indicates that it is newly arrived on the surface.

epo333
12-06-2013, 12:56 AM
Covers of various ports on the lander were jettisoned when the reentry shell separated, this might be one of these covers. That it is not dust covered indicates that it is newly arrived on the surface.

That as good an explanation as I have heard yet.

I noticed when I place the two photos (taken at different positions) side by side, that the "prism effect" usually seen on CDs and DVDs is not present. In fact there is a distinct line or shadow of sorts running from the hole, to about the 10:00 o'clock position.

Maybe residuals from a explosive bolt, or a compressed gas eject device.

krazyken
12-07-2013, 03:31 AM
Covers of various ports on the lander were jettisoned when the reentry shell separated, this might be one of these covers. That it is not dust covered indicates that it is newly arrived on the surface.

The thing is, these images are from Sol 309 (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=#/?slide=309) and the rover is no ware near the landing sight. NASA gave no commentary under the images either. Would you not think they would comment on those objects in the images? Nice theory though. ;)

majicbar
12-07-2013, 03:32 PM
The thing is, these images are from Sol 309 (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=#/?slide=309) and the rover is no ware near the landing sight. NASA gave no commentary under the images either. Would you not think they would comment on those objects in the images? Nice theory though. ;)When Curriosity was released from the areobreaking cover, the rover was well (6 to 1 miles) above the surface and the trajectory of the Rover was such that these could very well be those covers on the Curriosity Rover. Note how the cover and the landing device are also not where Curriosity landed. Small discs like these would have a Frisbee effect and travel a considerable distance. So yes, it is a nice hypothesis.

Doc
12-07-2013, 11:10 PM
Are there any competing hypotheses? Does anyone have any ideas about how to test the Cover Theory?

majicbar
12-08-2013, 03:07 AM
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00309/mcam/0309MR1275062000E1_DXXX.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00309/mcam/0309MR1275061000E1_DXXX.jpg

These are the image numbers from the Curiosity website for the images in question.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00309/mcam/0309MR1275063000E2_DXXX.jpg

Same Sol in the same area, but this seems to show what looks like primitive pottery, clearly this is something that deserves notice and explanation.

krazyken
12-09-2013, 06:50 PM
Same Sol in the same area, but this seems to show what looks like primitive pottery, clearly this is something that deserves notice and explanation.

Your so called pottery looks like all the other eroded stone in the area. This is a distraction from my original post. Please feel free to start a NEW thread on your POTTERY THEORY.

KK

krazyken
12-09-2013, 07:18 PM
Are there any competing hypotheses? Does anyone have any ideas about how to test the Cover Theory?

I did another video showing similar objects from images of the Spirit Rover.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6SOL5gwzLQ

Image 1 (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/126/1P139376930EFF2829P2538L7M1.JPG)

Image 2 (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/167/1P143008297ESF3221P2590R1M1.JPG)

Image 3 (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/307/1P155450047EFF38EVP2557L4M1.JPG)

KK

norenrad
12-09-2013, 07:28 PM
The "pottery" image does look out of place, not native to its surroundings; much like the "disc" image.

majicbar
12-09-2013, 08:35 PM
I have your explanation. The disc that you see is the mark being left by the "RAT", the device to grind into ground rock and sample the spectra from the laser reading of the post grind rock. The rock is polished and thus looks brighter than the other material. The "RAT" is on an arm that extends from Curiosity and has been pulled out of the way for the photos. One clue that the "disc" is not a disc is that there is a break in the disc on each of the images. The cover hypothesis would be too chancy that the rover would find them so close to the Rover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Abrasion_Tool

http://www.universetoday.com/100641/

http://www.space.com/19167-curiosity-rover-dusts-mars-rock.html

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1112784361/curiosity-chemcam-laser-martian-drill-tailings-021413/

krazyken
12-20-2013, 02:36 AM
Your insane Magic Troll

KK Out

majicbar
12-20-2013, 06:47 PM
Your insane Magic Troll

KK OutIn Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

Exactly how do I qualify as a troll? One who seeks the truth vs one who goes the route of expounding notions that have no supporting evidence? While what is in the photographs looks like cd discs, the discs are not complete, but do show what look like grindings from the Curiosity Rover. We know the Rover is capable of such grindings, we know that they have been sampling rocks with the laser along the route and grinding rock along the way. Oh, that "we" may not include krazyken.

touched
12-20-2013, 11:28 PM
Good work Majicbar. I always wondered what that object was.

epo333
12-21-2013, 12:33 AM
OK,

The only reason I might go for the "RAT" theory is the possibility of rover tracks in the foreground of Image 2.
(lower left)

Image 2 (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00309/mcam/0309MR1275061000E1_DXXX.jpg)

But the actual similarities of the disk shapes are a bit vague.

So if there is a way to enhance the foreground to bring out the rover track(s) or some image to compare, would be helpful.

JMO

Marvin
01-13-2014, 03:29 PM
I hope this is helpful, base on the stated size of the nearby "Blueberries," the "disc" is approximately 1 cm wide. It is not very big.


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