Signals from Space

[Marvin]

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/04/06/radio-bursts-from-space-reveal-strange-mathematical-pattern/?intcmp=features


M

[CasperParks]

I do not recall how far radio signals like television and AM/FM travel in space prior to dissipation.

[xDhirax]

http://earthweareone.com/mystery-radio-waves-from-deep-space-captured-live-sender-unknown/

Oh... and did you know the NSA has confirmed proof of extra-terrestial messages on their website:

http://www.ufointernationalproject.com/latest-news/nsas-message-extraterrestrials-website/

[Garuda]

http://earthweareone.com/mystery-radio-waves-from-deep-space-captured-live-sender-unknown/

Oh... and did you know the NSA has confirmed proof of extra-terrestial messages on their website:

http://www.ufointernationalproject.com/latest-news/nsas-message-extraterrestrials-website/

Not really...

See, e.g., www.openminds.tv/nsa-practices-deciphering-et-signals-668/9405

It was an exercise within the NSA, a 'what if' scenario: if we would get a message, would we be able to decipher it. So one group was tasked to come up with what such a message could look like, and the other group then had to try an decipher it. There were no 'real aliens' involved.

[xDhirax]

Not really...

See, e.g., www.openminds.tv/nsa-practices-deciphering-et-signals-668/9405

It was an exercise within the NSA, a 'what if' scenario: if we would get a message, would we be able to decipher it. So one group was tasked to come up with what such a message could look like, and the other group then had to try an decipher it. There were no 'real aliens' involved.It seems that was a misinterpretation seeing how they state:
To add further confusion, in the winter of 1969 NSA Technical Journal, an article titled, “Key to Extraterrestrial Messages” was published. This referred to the test message that Dr. Campaigne had proposed in his article, and was just that, a key to the exercise.
Although these messages do not appear to be real extraterrestrial messages, Callimahos did have a strong interest in the subject.

For a better interpretation here is the most important part of the article:

Apparently, these messages had actually been received via the Sputnik satellite, but no one had any idea how to decode them at the time.

At some time, unspecified in the document, Dr. Howard Campaigne and some other NSA super mathematicians in the crypto department had been given the task of decoding the messages. There were a total of 29 messages to be decoded — quite an undertaking.

It is curious, to say the least, that this document was cleared for release on October 21, 2004. Why was that? Because the NSA did not release it into public information until April 21, 2011. Though cleared for release, the NSA had been stonewalling it along with hundreds of other NSA documents about contact with UFOs and extraterrestrials until they lost the lawsuit brought by Peter Gersten, a lawyer from Arizona. When they well and truly lost, the judge’s order had to be carried out, and the documents had to be released.

[newyorklily]

Here is the latest on those unexplained radio bursts. It looks like they have a definite mathematical pattern. Maybe they're not random.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/04/06/radio-bursts-from-space-reveal-strange-mathematical-pattern/?cmpid=NL_SciTech

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[Garuda]

It seems that was a misinterpretation seeing how they state:

For a better interpretation here is the most important part of the article:

None of what you post changes the fact that this was an internal NSA exercise.

The fact that it ended up on the web is indeed because of Gersten's FOIA request. But that still doesn't make it about a real extraterrestrial message.

[southerncross]

Cross reference post.

http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1976-Investigating-Fast-Radio-Bursts

[majicbar]

http://www.examiner.com/article/alien-life-signals-radio-bursts-strange-mathematical-pattern-heard-space

Here is another article on the signals. At 2/10,000 statistical chance that there might be a natural explanation, we should take the position that this is an event of alien origin.

[majicbar]

http://www.examiner.com/article/alien-life-signals-radio-bursts-strange-mathematical-pattern-heard-space

Here is another article on the signals. At 2/10,000 statistical chance that there might be a natural explanation, we should take the position that this is an event of alien origin.

"..... as much energy as the sun releases in a month.", but they then seem to indicate that it could be some terrestrial satellite close by. But, which is it? It sounds like a pretty sketchy operation.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630153.600-is-this-et-mystery-of-strange-radio-bursts-from-space.html?page=1#.VSTAFRz38yi

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26813-epic-cosmic-radio-burst-finally-seen-in-real-time.html#.VSPfJMu9KSM

[Doc]

Can someone direct me to this quote, please?


Apparently, these messages had actually been received via the Sputnik satellite, but no one had any idea how to decode them at the time.

At some time, unspecified in the document, Dr. Howard Campaigne and some other NSA super mathematicians in the crypto department had been given the task of decoding the messages. There were a total of 29 messages to be decoded — quite an undertaking.

It is curious, to say the least, that this document was cleared for release on October 21, 2004. Why was that? Because the NSA did not release it into public information until April 21, 2011. Though cleared for release, the NSA had been stonewalling it along with hundreds of other NSA documents about contact with UFOs and extraterrestrials until they lost the lawsuit brought by Peter Gersten, a lawyer from Arizona. When they well and truly lost, the judge’s order had to be carried out, and the documents had to be released.

I'm going back to the links cited but somehow I'm not seeing the Sputnik related information. Sputnik received messages?

[calikid]

I do not recall how far radio signals like television and AM/FM travel in space prior to dissipation.

As you know, Radio is broadcast as waves (as opposed to particles).
If you think of terrestrial Radio wave broadcast, the distance traveled is directly related to the output of the transmitter. Think watts or megawatts.
Signal might travel across town or across several cities, depending on the power applied to boost the signal.

The article states something about "the power of several suns".
Sounds like it would travel a great distance.

I do recall SETI stating Radio waves were a great medium for interstellar communication, because the signal cuts right through dust and other obstructions.

Who knows? Maybe ET has harnessed a fantastic power source, and is indeed reaching out. :ufo:

[calikid]

Can someone direct me to this quote, please?



I'm going back to the links cited but somehow I'm not seeing the Sputnik related information. Sputnik received messages?

Seem to remember a newspaper article from Holland in "The Telegraph" (http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/article20273664.ece) back during 2011 making the report linking Sputnik.
I could be mistaken, but I think their rep was on par with The National Enquirer (known to wildly exaggerate facts, to enhance sales).

Here is a babylon (http://translation.babylon.com/dutch/to-english/) translation of the article from Dutch to English:

Wo apr 27, 2011, 11:49 AM NSA confirms alien life MARYLAND - In a released document of the National Security Agency (NSA) is confirmed that contact with alien life. The American secret service has almost thirty messages received from space.

Not all messages from space could be deciphered. Some messages contain as a mathematical formula, while others consist of other encodings.

The contact between the earth and space has been made through the Sputnik satellite of the Soviet Union. The NSA has the secret dossier recently release after years of litigation.

Previously came John F. Kennedy is still in the news because the suggestion that he would be murdered his interest in alien life. Also opened the FBI forced its secret "alien-archive' and was in Russia the corpse of an alien invaders found.

And a study, direct from the NSA's own archives, can be seen here:
https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/tech_journals/signals_outer_space.pdf
WARNING. DIRECT LINK to government agency... the folks Mr Snowden warned you about. :yikes:

[Wally]

And a study, direct from the NSA's own archives, can be seen here:
https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/tech_journals/signals_outer_space.pdf
WARNING. DIRECT LINK to government agency... the folks Mr Snowden warned you about. :yikes:

They may already be monitoring this forum anyway. :biggrin:

[majicbar]

They may already be monitoring this forum anyway. :biggrin:

Relax Wally! Reading the NSA report, what a joke! These guys were total idiots. Intelligence from Sputnik 1! Clearly reading the Russian's site on Sputnik's development there was no intelligence being gathered on that flight at all. Any differences in the signal were the effects of a poorly designed and quickly built transmitter which was cooled by a fan. Was the satellite pressurized? Investigate the real rather than the NSA's imagined capabilities of the "Sputnik".

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/sputnik.html

A version of the R-7 rocket, which was destined to carry the first satellite into orbit, carried a rather long designation -- 8K71PS No. 1 M1-PS. It featured several upgrades deferring it from previous R-7 test vehicles. Along with the military warhead, gone were measurement hardware, top avionics section containing vibration monitoring system, cables connecting the rocket and the warhead and the considerable portion of the flight control hardware, including radio control system.

To support first satellite launches, the Soviet government approved a number of upgrades to tracking facilities and to the hardware originally built for ballistic missile tests. As the original satellite development program was designated Object D, the index "D" was added to the names of systems supporting the mission. On the eve of the Sputnik launch only part of the tracking systems originally planned for the Object D project were ready for work.

On Feb. 15, 1957, Korolev signed an agreement with NII-885 led by Mikhail Ryazansky on the specifications of the radio transmitter for the PS satellite. It would be the the main component of the spacecraft to be developed outside Korolev's OKB-1.

By the end of 1956, it became clear that problems with the development of scientific instruments for Object D, coupled with lower then expected specific impulse of the R-7 rocket (304 seconds, instead of projected 309-310 seconds) threatened to derail the schedule. As a result, the launch date of Object D slipped to April 1958. In the meantime, the International Geophysical Year, IGY, officially starting on July 1, 1957, was officially targeted by the United States as the launch window of the first American satellite. To meet politically important window, OKB-1 proposed the Soviet government to precede Object D with a real "simplest satellite"or "prosteishy sputnik," or also known by Russian abbreviation as PS. With the launch mass of "only" 80-100 kilograms, and with only the most essential equipment onboard, it could be launched in April-May 1957, OKB-1 promised.

Despite its limited payload, the satellite was expected to achieve following scientific goals:

Rate of decay of its orbit would allow to determine the density of the upper atmosphere;
Property of radio wave distribution throughout the ionosphere;
Theoretical calculations and technical solutions associated with delivering satellites into orbit would be tested;
The satellite transmitted temperature data for 22 days before its power sources went dead. Moscow Radio announced that on October 26, 1957. The core stage of the R-7 rocket made 882 orbits and reentered on December 2, 1957. The satellite made 1,440 orbits and then burned up on the reentry into the Earth atmosphere on January 4, 1958, after 92 days in space.

[Marvin]

Can someone direct me to this quote, please?



I'm going back to the links cited but somehow I'm not seeing the Sputnik related information. Sputnik received messages?



You will find that quote at:

http://www.ufointernationalproject.com/latest-news/nsas-message-extraterrestrials-website/


It is in the paragraph after : NSA Document Admits ET Contact


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[majicbar]

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/source-puzzling-cosmic-signals-found-kitchen

Ooppsss... not so amazing, but this only explains some of the signals, there is still an unexplained phenomena here that is still beyond explanation so far.

[majicbar]

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/source-puzzling-cosmic-signals-found-kitchen

Ooppsss... not so amazing, but this only explains some of the signals, there is still an unexplained phenomena here that is still beyond explanation so far.

Well, how about this, microwave oven explanation does not hold water after all, debunking claim fails when considering the record as the signals are ALSO seen outside of business hours. Further reading here:

http://www.popsci.com/cosmic-whodunnit-culprit-ismicrowave-ovens?dom=fb&src=SOC