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ScaRZ
01-10-2012, 02:02 PM
Here below is the link to Michael Heiser's .......Completed first draft of "The Myth That Is True".

http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/Mythbook1stdraft.pdf


Here is the link to his Blog where he writes about it's release. Be sure and notice that the link for the draft will disappear at the end of January......."Save it." Also the file is not for distribution. As Michael Heiser writes........" if you know someone who wants it, you can give them the link — but don’t mass email it."

http://michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/2012/01/mikes-divine-council-book-draft-completed/



I have completed two thirds as of this post and it is a great read.

Doc
01-10-2012, 04:25 PM
Very interesting, ScarZ. I've been reading alternate views of one sort or another since way back when 'they' told me I shouldn't. Thanks for putting it up.

Chris
01-10-2012, 04:46 PM
ScaRZ - perhaps you could provide a summary of Heiser's writings as an enticement to get people to go read his book.

ScaRZ
01-10-2012, 07:35 PM
Sure thing Chris.

First off here's Michael Heiser's CV/Resume. http://www.michaelsheiser.com/MHeiserCV.pdf

Michael Heiser has been working on this book for years. I've been reading,listening,and viewing his work for several years now and "The Myth That Is True" takes all of that combining it with some new material. Michael will take you on a journey into The Bible and ancient text that I would say 90+% of believers and followers of Jesus Christ will not touch. Michael opens up the spiritual world where others avoid it. Get ready to view Eden as never before and take a path that will one day see this whole earth re-born as Eden.

There is spiritual war that rages all around us. A great war of two seeds is "The Real World" that the messengers of deception do not want you to see. Don't be afraid to slide the curtain open and let what's behind it come into full view.

This book will be very controversial and many will want to burn it. There is no doubt the underworld will not be pleased with it.

Dragonfire
01-10-2012, 10:17 PM
Thanks ScaRZ, I was looking for another read. This is going to take some time. And I will take my time.

nibs
01-10-2012, 11:33 PM
Yep this looks quite promising and look forward to reading it. ScaRZ any update on how David Flynn's recovery from the brain tumor is coming along?

Doc
01-11-2012, 12:10 AM
Sure thing Chris.

First off here's Michael Heiser's CV/Resume. http://www.michaelsheiser.com/MHeiserCV.pdf

Michael Heiser has been working on this book for years. I've been reading,listening,and viewing his work for several years now and "The Myth That Is True" takes all of that combining it with some new material. Michael will take you on a journey into The Bible and ancient text that I would say 90+% of believers and followers of Jesus Christ will not touch. Michael opens up the spiritual world where others avoid it. Get ready to view Eden as never before and take a path that will one day see this whole earth re-born as Eden.

There is spiritual war that rages all around us. A great war of two seeds is "The Real World" that the messengers of deception do not want you to see. Don't be afraid to slide the curtain open and let what's behind it come into full view.

This book will be very controversial and many will want to burn it. There is no doubt the underworld will not be pleased with it.

This sounds like just the sort of exploration I have enjoyed in the past. I'll read the pdf as soon as I get a chance.

ScaRZ
01-11-2012, 12:43 PM
Be sure and stick to it if you begin reading. Let it all come together into one big picture. I believe many people will receive answers to many questions.



@Nibs

The last I heard anything from David Flynn was good news. As much of the tumor as could be removed,was. He was doing good and seemed very positive.

ScaRZ
01-16-2012, 03:03 PM
I finished "The Myth That Is True" last night and wanted to lay out a few things about it. I found myself wishing he had gone further into the end times.

I know Michael Heiser doesn't care much for eschatology but I would've really enjoyed where his thinking was at this point in time. He views it in the past as deliberately secretive and will remain that way with the remaining biblical prophecy.

I certainly understand why he views it this way. As I've mentioned on several occasions I believe many of the most popular views of the end times will not become a reality in my opinion. I believe God will reveal by opening up understanding when he chooses.


Really the main points of "The Myth That Is True" is the Divine Council and how one day believers will be a part of the Divine Council. Those Divine Council Sons of God (Watchers,Holy Ones) that became corrupt lost their seats and will be replaced by the human Sons of God born from the resurrection of a new life that was made possible by Jesus Christ.

All the disinherited nations that took place at Babel that were put under the authority of lesser (elohim) sons of God will one day be in The Father's hands. These lesser (elohim) sons of God will not just turn them over,they will have to be "Taken" from them. All around us is a spiritual war of all wars going on and has been for a very long time.

The day Jesus Christ began his ministry it was all about taking back those disinherited nations from the enemy. The enemy didn't understand the road to The Cross. They may be wise but not wise enough. If they had known the full story the dark forces would never have taken the road they did. But one thing is certain,they still believe they can win.

The leaves of The Tree of Life for the healing of the nations will one day be a reality. This whole earth will one day be Eden. The Divine Council will be right here on this earth........."Eden".

Qrios
01-16-2012, 05:51 PM
Hi Guys

This is the only Select [Personal] Thoughts on Eschatology that I have seen Michael admit to (The thoughts in italics are his "Points of Uncertainty"

The kingdom of God is present now (Col 1:13) - Is this all the kingdom is?
The Church inherited the covenant with Abraham (Gal 3:25-29) - Does this rule out a future for national Israel? (Rom 11:25-32)

The Church is the household of David (Acts 15:16-17); consistent with Church = kingdom under Christ, its head. - Does this rule out a visible kingdom being installed when the Davidic messiah returns?

The Church = temple of God (corporate & individual; 1 Cor 3:16; 6:19). - Does this mean there is no need to rebuild the temple?

There will be discernible signs prior to 2nd coming; astronomical & historical - Requires a major guess and still ambiguous; as to kind and precision (exact day or hour not possible, but range may be).



The source (http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=41) is the 4 lectures he had on End Times during lectures at his church.

Greets

norenrad
01-16-2012, 05:54 PM
This whole earth will one day be Eden. The Divine Council will be right here on this earth........."Eden".

I guess I will have to read his stuff, because I don't see Earth becoming Eden when it's written in 2 Peter 3:10 that, "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare."

Now that version leaves room for interpretation, although this version does not, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

I'm not sure how "burned up" and "laid bare" or even "exposed" was translated from the original writings, but it is only by examining them can we get a better picture of what to expect.

ScaRZ
01-16-2012, 06:44 PM
I guess I will have to read his stuff, because I don't see Earth becoming Eden when it's written in 2 Peter 3:10 that, "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare."

Now that version leaves room for interpretation, although this version does not, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

I'm not sure how "burned up" and "laid bare" or even "exposed" was translated from the original writings, but it is only by examining them can we get a better picture of what to expect.

Yes,you do need to read it norenrad , then you will understand.

noot
01-16-2012, 06:55 PM
I believe God will reveal by opening up understanding when he chooses. Based upon a pile of nonsense repeated so often that it takes on the appearance of inevitability? And why, exactly, do you refer to God as "he?" She'll be very pissed. Just sayin, Thump.

ScaRZ
01-16-2012, 08:54 PM
Based upon a pile of nonsense repeated so often that it takes on the appearance of inevitability? And why, exactly, do you refer to God as "he?" She'll be very pissed. Just sayin, Thump.

I'm not getting into that in this thread. This should not drift into what you refer to as my own pile of nonsense and most certainly not your pile of nonsense. This is about Michael Heiser's book " "The Myth That Is True".

ScaRZ
01-16-2012, 09:09 PM
@Qrios

Welcome to The Outpost.

Good videos from Michael.

Qrios
01-17-2012, 07:15 AM
Based upon a pile of nonsense repeated so often that it takes on the appearance of inevitability? And why, exactly, do you refer to God as "he?" She'll be very pissed. Just sayin, Thump.

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Qrios
01-17-2012, 07:40 AM
@Qrios

Welcome to The Outpost.

Good videos from Michael.

Thanx ScaRZ

newyorklily
01-28-2012, 11:54 PM
I thought you all would be interested in this;

From the Coast to Coast AM schedule for next week.


Thursday, February 2, 2012: Expert in theology, biblical languages, and world civilizations, Mike Heiser (http://www.dat-e-baseonline.com/front/a.asp?arg=8F7D995F92787563606D77836D68788B8176716A 8081797289) will update his research findings into theories of ancient astronauts, and alien DNA tinkering. Hosted by George Noory.

ScaRZ
01-29-2012, 02:26 PM
I thought you all would be interested in this;

From the Coast to Coast AM schedule for next week.

Thanks for the info NewYorkLily. This sounds very interesting.

Doc
01-29-2012, 03:22 PM
We have time to arrange a discussion of the show on a thread here and send a link announcing the discussion to Coast to Coast, if anyone is interested. The connection between Ancient Astronaut investigations and Eschatology might be a unifying concept for a lot of people who don't see the relevance.

ScaRZ
01-31-2012, 03:04 PM
Here's something from Michael Heiser at his blog (The Naked Bible) about the Coast to Coast interview this Thursday night, plus two other interviews one on Friday (2/3) with Brian Wilson of the Liberty Broadcasting Network, and next Tuesday on Off the Grid Radio (2/7).

The Naked Bible

http://michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/2012/01/upcoming-interviews/#comment-8680


Coast to Coast AM

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/


Liberty Broadcasting Network

http://www.libertybroadcastingnetwork.com/rpm/


Off the Grid Radio

http://www.offthegridnews.com/category/radio/

HowardH
02-14-2012, 03:28 AM
Here below is the link to Michael Heiser's .......Completed first draft of "The Myth That Is True".

http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/Mythbook1stdraft.pdf


Here is the link to his Blog where he writes about it's release. Be sure and notice that the link for the draft will disappear at the end of January......."Save it." Also the file is not for distribution. As Michael Heiser writes........" if you know someone who wants it, you can give them the link — but don’t mass email it."

http://michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/2012/01/mikes-divine-council-book-draft-completed/



I have completed two thirds as of this post and it is a great read.

I would like to know what The Myth That Is True is all about but i just keep getting 'internal error' when i try the link :(

neverwas
02-14-2012, 07:22 AM
Howard, the free pdf is gone now, I guess the book will be out soon. I don't know if ScaRZ downloaded the pdf.
Well worth taking a look at. Does get a little redundant on some of the verses repeating but it's worth paying attention to it. If you can stick with reading the whole book you'll maybe see where it does make a lot of sense. I know there are places in it where some would throw it down and not finish it. I would say to them not to jump ahead and assume things.
Here's another link about the book, lots of comments at the bottom.

http://michaelsheiser.com/TheNakedBible/2012/01/mikes-divine-council-book-draft-completed/