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There was a discussion about this on the Inception Radio Network's show Paradigm Unhinged last week, http://paradigmunhinged.com/next-week-mufon-bigelow-et/
You can listen to it here http://irnfiles.com/audio/PDURoundtable.mp3
There is also a discussion on the MUFON STAR Team Facebook page about it http://www.facebook.com/groups/mufon...1656918905396/
That is an "open" group so anyone can read it but, you have to work for MUFON in order to join the group and/or post so. All of the responses you are reading there are people who work for MUFON in some capacity.
SubTropolis. 200 miles from Jessie's Iluminati Castle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWb2VtcM3k
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubTropolis
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Worth watchingQuote:
Originally Posted by Fore
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Just noticed I'd got the wrong episode. The underground storage facility above and then how it was portrayed on Conspiracy Theory below. From the 33.15 mark. I don't mind a bit of hype for entertainment but this is blatant bull.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProblemChild
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AT7-6DhaFA
(STARpod.us) — Controversy has exploded onto the Internet following a contentious episode of Jesse Ventura’s TruTV program “Conspiracy Theory” exposing high strangeness at aerospace entrepreneur Robert Bigelow’s Skinwalker Ranch.
At issue: a rumor of a battle with extraterrestrial aliens passed on by physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti, based upon a story he was told by a “mysterious French woman” Sarfatti has now identified as Antoine Gigal.
Dave Perkins recounts on one hellish incident reported by the previous ranch owner.Quote:
According to Sarfatti’s account, the French woman “claimed an actual gun battle at Bigelow Ranch with Bob’s paramilitary against aliens out of the wormhole with dead and wounded humans. She was very convincing and Nick Cook heard the strange tale at his private London Club with me and another witness. I debriefed Kit Green and Ron Pandolfi soon after and the story caused a big stir.”
Pandolfi and Green are well known for their interest in unusual phenomena and their history of employment with the CIA. Green confirmed he was the chair of the NIDS science board during the ranch investigation.
“I was asked by the ‘CIA’ not to pursue the story in 2004, but now Bigelow has (allegedly, it seems) opened Pandora’s Box on the story.”
The ranch was purchased by Bigelow, the founder of Bigelow Aerospace, a company focused on building inflatable space habitats for the next generation of corporate-backed space explorers.Quote:
In the summer of 1994, Terry [Sherman] (a rancher and cattle breeder) and his wife Gwen (employed for 20 years at the local bank) had found their dream ranch … The family started noticing “glowing blue balls” moving around the property … Terry described it as “a glass ball about the size of a baseball,” which appeared to contain “two blue fluids which intermingled with each other” … the globe retreated and the Sherman’s three dogs, after some coaxing, took off chasing it in snarling hot pursuit … They lost sight of the ball and then heard a piercing yelp — the three dogs did not return … The next day Gwen and Terry found three burned circles in the woods. In the center of each circle, they discovered a greasy blob of what looked to be “shortening or butter” … Feeling that they could no longer guarantee the safety of their children, they decided to call it quits. They would put the place up for sale and leave the hellish ranch.
When Bigelow told the New York Times “people have been killed” by UFOs, Sarfatti resuscitated a tale he had heard at a 2004 meeting in London.
More:http://www.starpod.us/2012/12/17/the...at_pco=cfd-1.0
Strange creatures, strange objects, black triangles, animal mutilations, disintegrated dogs, telepathic messages, etc. — a smorgasbord of every strange and imaginable terror has greeted those who spent any period of time at the ranch.
and:http://www.starpod.us/2012/12/03/ski.../#.UNFIAhBGLUY
According to MUFON's Executive Director, David MacDonald, the contract with Bigelow lasted for only one year (2009) and there has been no contact with Bigelow since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by newyorklily
I don't think that there is any story more fascinating than this one; and I believe everything they are saying about it too! Or at least most of it. One of the main reasons why has to do with one of the things that happened at that ranch that I also experienced one time too. It was so unusual, I had yet to run into any other witness accounts of it ANYWHERE, until I read about it happening on that ranch too. Granted that some of the information that is being reported in this thread is new to me where I still have to run it through my BS meter, most of the other stuff that everybody else already knows about now that happened there, to me, is true.
Keith Basterfield has been digging around Bigelow's funding of research into consciousness and NDEs.
Many of the big names are either asscociated with NIDS or UNLV where he donated $3.7 million, Raymond Moody, Melvin Morse, Charles Tart.
Looking back now its amazing how many of the top NDE researchers were on the Science Advisory Board at NIDS.
One person he has left off the list is Kit Green.
Much more on Keith's blog...
http://ufos-scientificresearch.blogs...arch-into.html
Robert Bigelow and research into consciousness
In 1997, Robert Thomas Bigelow, and his wife Diane, donated money to the University Of Nevada, Las Vegas to establish a Chair of Consciousness Studies....
...In fact, at this point it would be worth while providing a list of individuals who were on the NIDS Science Advisory Board, taken from the Wayback Machine's filing of the NIDS website.
John B Alexander; Warren Burggren; Douglas P Ferraro; Albert A Harrison; Edgar Mitchell; Melvin Morse; Martin Piltch; Harold E Puthoff; Theodore Rockwell; John F Scheussler; Jessica Utts; Jacques Vallee; Jim Whinnery.
This is amazing, Chris Marx spills all his beans. Quite astounding
https://youtu.be/_-5TbflvGd4
Great post Longeyes. Thank you.
‘Astounding’ is quite accurate. To hear him say how poorly equipped they were, using fake cameras, having to pirate internet and having only one guard present, etc. If I inferred correctly, he also seemed to implicate the DOD as the cause of some of the ‘paranormal’ activities. IIRC, he said something to the effect of feeling like playing an unwilling part of an elaborate ruse.
He also wasn’t exactly effusive with praise for Knapp and Corbell.
Yep, I was under the impression that scientists went up there in pairs for two week stints. I thought that came from Colm Kelleher or Eric Davis. I thought they had cameras everywhere?
It also very interesting how one of the technologies TTSA are collaborating on with the US Army is camouflage.
He claims they might have been guinea pigs, his story how the hut door was kicked open with no one there, could have been a test. But I’m pretty dubious that that kind of thing was going on. There was definitely some psychic phenomenon there. I think they were really interested in the technology behind that. Where they really the only people there? Surely they would know especially if they were stationed there?
I think there is a distinct possibility that the Utes are right - there are SkinWalkers there. The three wolves would be them.
That they opened some kind of portal at sometime in the past, to somewhere not great and the barrier between the worlds is thinner there. Some kind of cleansing ritual could be done to heal the place but then there would be nothing for them to study.
Fascinating conclusions. I recall a display of ‘adaptive camouflage’ of a tank by the British military years ago and there is the ‘Harry Potter’ type cape made by the Japanese university professor so it’s no wonder that DARPA has ongoing research and possibly even testing near the Ranch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longeyes
No doubt something supernatural is afoot too, the bizarre tales go back far too long.
Vice and M J Banias have reveal the new ranch owner Brandon Fugal
Full Article here:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m...inwalker-ranch
The person who owns the infamous Skinwalker Ranch, a supposedly haunted UFO hotspot in Utah, has decided to come out of the shadows.Twenty-two stories up in a striking glass building in downtown Salt Lake City, I sat down with Brandon Fugal, a Utah-based real estate mogul and tech investor...
Not much on the science
...Currently, we have evidence for anomalous injuries, footage of anomalous aerial phenomena, transient EMF and a whole array of other bizarre things...
He appearing in a History Channel doc The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch that will premiere March 31.
Jeremy Corbell has put up his interview with Fugal
https://youtu.be/kcuKgG0YLsE
Seems the earlier project Fugal worked on with Kit Green etc was Joe Firmage's project
Fugal Jeremy Corbell and Robbie Williams were on C2C last night
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2020/03/29
Much has been said of Skinwalker Ranch in Utah - a 512-acre property that is a supposed hotspot for paranormal and UFO activity. George Knapp has been researching the ranch for years and has been on the property multiple times. Earlier this month, the name of the new owner of the ranch was released - Brandon Fugal, a 46-year-old business leader and tech investor. He joined George to discuss why he bought the ranch and what type of experiments are currently being conducted there. Fugal emphasized that the ranch was originally not for sale, but after he met with former owner Robert Bigelow, they "built a relationship of trust" that allowed the sale to go forward...
The most recent episode of Ancient Aliens on History Channel aired on 3/21/2020 was "The Mystery of Skinwalker Ranch".Quote:
Originally Posted by Longeyes
They also identified/interviewed the new owner, Mr Fugal. He claimed Bigelow only agreed to sell after he gave assurances of continuing the research (and possessed the resource$ to do it).
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If you are interested, now that History Channel's "Project Blue Book" has ended season 2, they have a new replacement series called: "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch" in the same time slot.
and S1E01 is "Bad Things Happen When You Dig".
Premier is 3/31/2020.
Thanks Calikid managed to find a copy of the ancient aliens ep. Thought it was very good. Looking forward to the History Ch Series.
There's a livestream if anyone's bored
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8OXOycxAAA
Travis Taylor worked on the new series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNIO2Dxw79I
Travis almost looked sick when they told him "there is no digging on Skinwalker Ranch".
Someone's put it (History Channel's "The Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch" S1E01) up on YT, doubt it will be there long
https://youtu.be/SZZCkRvNlW4
Not much actual info in this episode imo. There are two things worth noting though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longeyes
I find it interesting that the head of security's nickname is "Dragon" , why bother telling us his nickname?
Also the seismograph/telemetry device acronym is S.A.T.A.N
They give the nickname just because it sounds cool, like "Dog the bounty hunter". The ending was somewhat of a cliffhanger, "What's in the case?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebenmatter
Perhaps a metal fragment? The ground penetrating radar seemed to imply there was a 40ft craft under the earth?
But I remember the same production company did 'The Curse of Oak Island' I remember a trailer for that show where it looked they'd found gold, turned out the next show it was something like a rust nail. So probably shouldn't speculate.
I thought on the whole they've done a good job. Hopefully more data will come out in later episodes.
Ep 2 up for a while
https://youtu.be/u0Int0OwUx4
Thanks Longeyes, I enjoyed that.
Anyone notice from 16:15 to 17:25 when the phone batteries went dead, the event didn't seem to effect the camera(s) that were in service doing the recording. Weird!
Ep 3 is up. Even more technical problems!
https://youtu.be/dFaiYDq3Sxk
Thanks again Longeyes . . . :)
For the infrared imaging it may have been better for them to do it at night as there would have been less ambient heat from the sunshine.
Yeah good point, also think they should use some psychics. The place is showing signs of the paranormal they might get a few more clues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wally
Someone recommended watching this and it gives a good insight into the Navajo perspective of Skinwalkershttps://youtu.be/N6uSqUrL1TQ
Ep 4 up and it's a cracker.
https://youtu.be/eNRA88p9bXE
Great interview with Travis
https://youtu.be/SWfXo31_B_o
Some highlights thanks to David Haith...
In the linked interview Skinwalker Ranch History Channel show scientist Travis Taylor has some pretty wild theories as to what's going on ranging from quantum physics entanglement, crashed spaceships or asteroids to super technology from thousands of years in the future.
Asked what the phenemena is NOT, Travis Taylor replied:
"It's definitely not the government classified program. I've spoken to folks within the
government and and at various levels in these meetings and and they are just as baffled by this as we are.
We actually had the Attorney General I believe it was of Utah come out there and tell us that he's concerned about it as well. They have no idea what it is. The governor of Utah has no idea what it is.
So what we know it's not, is you know like you see in science fiction shows or whatever is the the Air Force or the Army or the Navy playing tricks on people just to see what happens. It's not some new crowd control weapon or anything like that which you know I've had that as a potential idea sure - but until I made the measurements I made and realized that we do not have the technology to create these phenomena even if you allowed for some super top secret program to be 10 or 15 years ahead of modern technology. This is hundreds, maybe thousands of years ahead of what we have, whatever this is."
Travis even wonders whether an alien spaceship crashed on the area millions of years ago!
Early in the interview he said: "I would say I'm in the upper 90 percent convinced that there was a crash of a large object, whether it was a comet or an asteroid or you know an alien spacecraft. Yeah you know something hit there in the order of 10,000 to millions of years ago and I have no idea how to figure out what that is.
I mean we have two serious Geological Surveys to figure that out. You can look at Google Earth and looks like from the east to the west it hits, which is typical of an asteroid or a comet type impact. You can see the Salt Flats were thrown from the impact and the salt flats are all on the west side of the impact crater. "
Travis also suggested the phenomena could be quantum related and be connected to "entanglement".
He said "We started working some of the math out - if we wanted to recreate that you
know what would it take. And the only thing we came up with was that some large energy event happened in the past and in the future and is somehow quantum connected through time. And that just makes no sense and it's a science fiction crazy concept."
I am really enjoying the Skinwalker Ranch mistery
Hi DF,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonfire
Do you mean in general? Or are you "enjoying" one of the Skinwalker programs in particular?
There is the Skinwalker Ranch series currently playing History Channel (4 episodes so far, Ep.5 scheduled for next week).
or The recent (March 2020) Ancient Aliens episode about Skinwalker ranch.
or the Podcast mentioned above.
Or all of the above? LoL.
The history channel series. Haven't seen the podcast yet. Did see the ancient aliens episode.