Demise of alienscientist forum?

[Edgar Fouche]

Is it possible that the USAFOSI, or whoever is doing the disinformation campaign covering up area 51 and UFO back engineering have been messing with Ed's mind?

I assure you even with my major multiple disabilities, I'm quite sane. Of all the years Dan B., Jeremy Rys, and myself have 'known' David Hilton, he's never shown his face of Face Book or Skype, or ooVoo while talking to Dan, Jeremy or I.

I never said David was Russian, but I did have one source that said he was Eastern European. When David was the administrator on the Alienscientist Forum, I checked his IP Addresses and he had seven and one of them was Washington D.C.
I still have the data.

So why would a person (David Hilton - Tham) who claimed to Dan, Jeremy and I, that he owned 200 thousand dollars for student loans have all those IP Addresses. When David came on the Alienscientist Forum he immediately tried to make friends with Jeremy, Dan and I with his software and forum knowledge. Unfortunately because the forum was a low priority for Jeremy at that time, David was the only one that had Admin experience for our forum software.
He was given Admin privileges by Jeremy as I wasn't an Admin with full privileges.

So when Dan was slandered and liabled with malice and all his posts were taken down on the Alienscientist forum, David blamed me, even though I didn't have Admin privileges. Now what you have to realize is that Dan B. (Bigpappy) and I would get together we sometimes took days to research and post articles, like the DARC facility in Nevada.

In almost all of those posts I supported Dan and he supported me and our research, which proved my disclosures in the early 90s until my public disclosure to the IUFOC in 1998 were true.
But David would continually, almost nightly get on Skype or ooVoo (without a webcam - he says he doesn't own one) and spread lies and rumors claiming I or Jeremy or Dan had said something really bad about the other person.

He was relentless about spreading rumors and discourse. Even Jeremy Rys and Dan B. will admit this as well as I.

You can say what you will about my disclosures and whistle-blowing in the early 90s and afterwards. But things I disclosed were not popular in the scientific arena but now many of them are the hottest reach in physics and meta-materials.
Another person who used to work with me who had a grudge, worked with David to discredit me all over the internet. I won't mention his name because he admitted all and asked for my forgiveness. So be it!

David seems to live large, he's always in a nice neighborhood (3-Bedroom house) says he owns 200K in student loans, yet the government keeps giving him loans for more schooling. Yes, really?
David is a really large guy, in his life, and his alter-ego (Tham). He orders delivery buckets of chicken, pizza, and other take out at least one time a day. Yet, remember he hasn't had a job for years?
Who pays his rent, his huge food bills, his electric bill, his credit card bills, his transportation, his phone and cell phone bills, and other expenses? He always claims to have a military roommate who is absent?

I'm disabled, I'm retired from the USAF, and I'm old enough to draw SS. I'm 66. Everything I own is paid for including my house, shops, man-cave, and cars.
I posted my book Alien Rapture, ten years ago on Scribed and as a bit-torrent. Brad Steiger was my coauthor and neither of us had has a royalty payment from Galde Press for years.
So I've never been this battle for the truth for the money. I didn't need it and I've never been paid one cent for an interview or information, EVER!

So it seems that David Hilton, Thamulas, Tham, is offended by me remarks? Curious isn't it? I pulled in a LOT of favors in law enforcement to get the criminal, liens, aliases, school records, employment, debt of everything relating to Jeremy Rys, his family, David Hilton and his shady past, and I'm willing to post it all on YouTube and anywhere else. I sued Chrysler in the 70s and beat them in court. Look it up, I worked with contracts and legal law for years.
But, make no doubt about this, I've been very modest in retaliation in the past for libel and slander for the purpose of malice, but I will no longer. That's a fact Jack.

Sad to say, Dan, Jeremy, and I were sucked into this government trolling of the Alienscientist Forum and it's demise. Our family is quite well off. We have a personal lawyer who is an ex state representative. I have since this whole debacle of David Hilton sending an illegally recorded video of me and Dan, without our permission, for the purpose of malice, to Jeremy, who out of anger and malice also edited it to make me out as a disinformation agent and NSA liar.

There are only three people involved. David, Jeremy, and Dan. I've never attacked Dan. Jeremy posted on my Face Book channel that I was cheating on my precious and beloved wife. So I took down my channel.

My advice to David and Jeremy is to let it die. I have nothing but time on my hands and I know the law, and I write better than both of them. "Idol hands are the Devil's workshop."
David and Jeremy have posted so many anti government and slanderous comments on others, that all of you must known that they must be either working as disinformation or they are on a three letter government agencies, tracking list.

Yes and so have I. I waited till my 30 year non-disclosure secrets agreement expired before I told all. I consulted two USAF JAG lawyers and I knew where the grey line was and I never stepped over it.
Those of you who know me and Dan from the OMF days, know that I like nothing better than a grand fight for the truth. I am far from timid.

Jeremy has taken down all the slanderous videos and posts on his website about me. At this time I have no ax to grind with him or his family.

So as David Hilton told Dan, "I'm going to post the whole long 1.5 hours of that video all over the internet to destroy Ed." Well as the idiot President George W. Bush said, "Bring it on."
I don't care about my so called reputation, or those who believe me or not, I gave it my best shot, and then the government trolls tried to discredit me. So what?

And by the way, you have a respected member who I selectively sent private emails to, who has informed David Hilton (Busted!) every-time. Yep...
So much for us all just looking for the truth.

Ed Fouche

[David Hilton]

You really are delusional. I mean seriously you need mental help. Just listen to yourself.

If anyone is slandering anyone here its you slandering me.

Regarding Dan B., you demanded that I ban him from AlienScientist Forum because you were angry about him telling people you were an alcoholic. You constantly complained about him to me. It took you weeks of complaining about him to me before I finally relented. I was reluctant, but finally did so you'd shut up about it. Then after that you demanded that I never tell anyone that you had me do it.

Regarding the video, you knew very well that we were recording. You even mention that you know you are being recorded in the video. It was originally going to be a video about that F-15 crash, but instead it went off into left field. I had deleted it a long time ago, but Dan B. still had it. He resent it to Jeremy and then to me when all of this started. I just talked to Dan B. via phone yesterday, and it was his idea that I publish the unedited video for all to see since you want to persist in all of this. Honestly it doesn't have to be edited to make you look bad. You admit all kinds of stuff, just one example being illegally distributing OxyContin pills which carries hefty fines and jail time. Also you give out your social security number about three times in it, which I'm sure various researchers could have a field day with.

[calikid]

Gentlemen, we need to refrain from name calling and personal attacks.
Please limit yourselves to taking issue with ideas and statements.
Present reasoned arguments.
Anything else will result in a locked thread.


I don't' see anything constructive coming from recreating arguments that occurred at A/S.
You have been there, and done that.....

[Edward]

It is what is, Ed.

It is what it is David.

I respect you both but something has got to give here. You both want to be right and justified in your actions and responses. I can understand that but continuing to belabor the issue it keep putting fuel on the fire.

David, understand what's going on here and let it go.

Ed, this goes for you too.

You are both intelligent human beings bickering and doing this tit for tat nonsense of he said, she said. Instead of trying to see it of being wronged some how by the other look at it from the perspective of the other and see how or why this mess has started. In doing so in that reflection see how things could have been misinterpreted or viewed. Then you perhaps both of you can move on from this.

I miss the chats we had. Although I was not there for all of them I was there for some. Let's not waste the talented minds you both have be reduced to fighting each other.

Edward

[Edgar Fouche]

You really are delusional. I mean seriously you need mental help. Just listen to yourself.

If anyone is slandering anyone here its you slandering me.

Regarding Dan B., you demanded that I ban him from AlienScientist Forum because you were angry about him telling people you were an alcoholic. You constantly complained about him to me. It took you weeks of complaining about him to me before I finally relented. I was reluctant, but finally did so you'd shut up about it. Then after that you demanded that I never tell anyone that you had me do it.

Regarding the video, you knew very well that we were recording. You even mention that you know you are being recorded in the video. It was originally going to be a video about that F-15 crash, but instead it went off into left field. I had deleted it a long time ago, but Dan B. still had it. He resent it to Jeremy and then to me when all of this started. I just talked to Dan B. via phone yesterday, and it was his idea that I publish the unedited video for all to see since you want to persist in all of this. Honestly it doesn't have to be edited to make you look bad. You admit all kinds of stuff, just one example being illegally distributing OxyContin pills which carries hefty fines and jail time. Also you give out your social security number about three times in it, which I'm sure various researchers could have a field day with.

David as always you change the subject. Tell everyone here why you have never shown your face live through a Webcam? Yet you, Jeremy, Dan, and I talked to you hundreds of hours. Tell us why a person who is unemployed lives a very good life and always seems to have money, would have their own Internet Server and an IP address is Washington DC, while you live in South Carolina? As a fact I didn't know I was being recorded by you and because of the medications I was on and legally couldn't consent. I would never have approved since I was in great pain and had been up for a couple of days straight taking pain pills.

I've never had a prescription for Oxycontin. FOIA the VA if you don't believe me. In fact anyone can FOIA me. My old social security number was compromised years and and my family lawyer helped get it changed. So post all the ones you think are real, I could care less. I've had prescriptions for other pain meds for sure.

Jeremy, David, and myself had a number of disagreements about policy, politics, and the Alienscientist Forum over the years. As I said, I've made my peace with Dan and Jeremy long ago. I have nothing negative to say about them. I seriously think Jeremy got overly angry at me after one argument. We've all done stupid and not so nice things when we're angry. David won't swear that he's never worked for the government or been a paid contractor troll for the government.

I've posted more personal, military, and government documents than all the so called 'insiders, disclosers, and whistle-blowers' combined. I stand behind all I have posted and said in interviews. I only post here because I have a few good friends who are members, especially my great friend Chris (Ivo). It's a felony to forge or alter government documents. Do you actually think I'm that stupid?

And there is the ever present lie David tells Dan B., that I had something to do with Dan being kicked off of the Alienscientist Forum. Let me ask you this, Dan and I have been very close friends for many years. We worked on hundreds of posts, doing the research together, and then either him or me posting the end research. If I have that big an ego, why would I want ALL of Dan's posts taken down? And most of our posts supported my disclosure, and the Black Program technology I worked on and we posted it. Dan and I.

So David, you went to military schools, are a computer and tech and network genius and have your own large house and your own Internet Computer Server. So who pays your bills and why have you never shown your house or your face on the internet. You have a server and a very expensive laptop, a cell phone which you think is private, and a Washington DC IP address which you said your provider gave you. You are your own provider as you have your own personal server. Last I checked a server isn't inexpensive. I've been very up front about my financial status and where I get my retirement money from.

I have the same gaming keyboard you have and it's about $200. Yet a web page expert, networking expert, and and computer expert like you doesn't own a webcam. Who could possibly believe that?

Every time that I've recognized that I made a mistake or misspoke on any subject, I'm the first one to admit it and have posted why I was misled. I now also know for sure one of your trusted posters, who was also on OMF and the Alienscientist Forum forwards all my emails to David and/or Jeremy. I used to think the world of this person, but I don't respect snitches, and trouble makers.

So after thinking carefully about David's comments, I can't say I've said anything that is not true and provable. So blessings to all, thanks for your comments, and think twice before you lie or deceive or post slander and liable about others. The internet and state laws are changing every day.

I personally don't dislike David or anyone else for that matter, but I'm a hell of a lot more cautious about who I trust and talk to now days. It is so simple to record someone's video conversations or phone calls, you should all think before you talk. I was admittedly out of my mind sick when David recorded me. But I thought we were all close friends, and had no clue he would record me. Ask yourself this, if your so-called friend did this to you and then passed the recording on to others to edit and attack you, how would you feel?

David has already admitted he was the one that recorded me in his own statements. Then as always he tries to implicate others like Dan and Jeremy to deflect blame. Dan, Jeremy, and I have all admitted to our mistakes to each other. Yet David has never taken any responsibility for any of his actions?

Ask Dan or Jeremy or myself about David loving to beat the s*** out of disabled elderly people when he worked for a nursing home or mental health care facility. Ask him about his predilection to violent and vile porn that he tried to get Jeremy, Dan, and I to watch. It was so bad that it made Dan sick, that's because he has a conscious, I refused to watch them, but unfortunately David went on and on about the details and was laughing and having a good time.

Ed Fouche

PS: So everyone should just drop this. I assure you I have a lot of evidence, documents, background checks, and videos to back up my case.

[IsaacKoi]

Written by Bigpappy51 (Dan B.)
posted on Mar, 1 2014 @ 04:20 AM
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reply to post by uforn
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread984431/pg1
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Edgar Fouches Review which mentions his TDY from 1 June 1979 to 14 August 1979 at AFFTC DET-3 aka Area-51. I have tried to use my photobucket to install the picture of Eds Document on here. I have noticed its changed since I last posted on here long ago. Until I figure this out or if someone could loan me a hand here I will post the direct link below to my photobucket showing the document.
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Hi Ed,

For ease of reference, I'll embed below the document Dan B. mentioned in the post you quoted above.

fouche2.jpg

I've replied to Dan's post on AboveTopSecret's and thought I'd post my reply here.

Frankly, I'd like to see this thread move away from bickering and instead see it focus on presenting evidence (particularly documentary evidence) relevant to your claims.

originally posted by: Bigpappy51
If anyone is interested in the truth about Edgar Fouche feel free to ask. I know him better than almost anyone and he's 100% telling you what he can.

Well, I'm interested - particularly to the extent that claims can be supported by relevant documents. I already have Ed's book and some other material. I'd welcome any further documents you or Ed have to support his claims. I'll send Ed a message saying the same thing. I'd be happy to upload relevant documents (assuming Ed gives his permission) as searchable PDF documents to a free file storage website.

Since I don't think we've had contact before, I'll just post a brief introduction : I am a barrister in England with an interest in various issues relating to "UFOs". I've previously helped make freely available online in a searchable format UFO documents from the FBI, from Canada (with the permission of the Canadian government) and Australia (with the permission of the Australian government) and New Zealand, plus helped make freely available in a searchable PDF format various out-of-print UFO publications (such as the newsletters of ufo skeptic Phil Klass, after getting relevant permissions). Here are a few links to samples of my previous items online:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread924183/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread730972/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread736264/pg1

Feel free to email me if you prefer.

[David Hilton]

Ok. You stated that:

And there is the ever present lie David tells Dan B., that I had something to do with Dan being kicked off of the Alienscientist Forum. Let me ask you this, Dan and I have been very close friends for many years. We worked on hundreds of posts, doing the research together, and then either him or me posting the end research. If I have that big an ego, why would I want ALL of Dan's posts taken down? And most of our posts supported my disclosure, and the Black Program technology I worked on and we posted it. Dan and I.

Below is proof you are dishonest. Taken from Skype transcripts. Forgot about that little detail didn't you? If you are dishonest about this, what else are you dishonest about?


June 7, 2012 12:30AM (During the same time I was talking to Dan via Skype chat.)


June 8, 2012 3:08AM (You admit you knew everything, and was even happy about it.)



I know forum members what to see discussion about related UFO topics, etc. However, at the root of the matter is the reliability of this individual. If he cannot be trusted, then it calls into question his entire claim. Its the very root and foundation of any investigation.

[Edgar Fouche]

Ha you forget one thing, I never had admin privileges on Alienscientist to do what you accused me of against Dan, Jeremy and Matt also know that.

And, anyone can phony up Photoshop fakes of Skype From two years ago...
Especially with all of your computer and gaming experience.

And as for talking behind other's backs to stir up trouble, my hat's off to you as you are the master.

Dan has been angry at me several times over the years, I never attacked him at all or retaliated against him.
And when he was very angry he said some very bad things about me, I forgave him, like I do all my friends.

So this line of attack does not represent the type of good person I've been my whole life.
Life is like a chess game, don't lose your queen.

Ed

[Bigpappy51]

Would someone with Photoshop experience look at what David Hilton has posted so we can rule out photoshop 100% please ??

It sure fits major missing pieces of this puzzle.

Ed why cant you me and David Hilton get on Skype or OOvOO your choice and talk about these allegations its real simple?? Ed you have refused why??

David has admitted his role on banning me from The AS forum and it doesn't make any sense for him to photoshop and waste all this time.

Ed originally told me a Govt agent had hacked Davids Skype account and his AS account and thats how nasty allegations that are totally untrue were posted in my account on AS (For all members to read) after I had been banned and I believed Ed because he kept telling me this leading me on some kind of paranoia that the Govt was after me for talking about The TR3B and the F-15 crash investigations.

So which one is it Ed? Was it David Hilton alone? Was it The Govt agent who hacked his Skype account and his AS Account ? Or were you coaching David what to say and covering it up with the Govt agent hacking Davids accounts??

Which one was it Ed ?? I just want the truth if Im presented with the truth i wont be upset I just want to know thats all.

[David Hilton]

And, anyone can phony up Photoshop fakes of Skype From two years ago...
Especially with all of your computer and gaming experience.