Climate Change why are we still even debating it?

[CasperParks]

Is it a race toward extinction?

ABC News: Third of North American Birds Said to Face Extinction Due to Climate Change, Other Man-Made Factors - click here for entire article.

A new report published by North American Bird Conservation Initiative says that 37 percent of all migratory bird species on the continent are at risk of extinction due to a myriad of harmful environmental factors including climate change, sea-level rise, land development and oil spills.

The report includes a section called the Species Assessment Summary and Watch List, a chart that ranks the 1,154 native species of birds in Canada, the U.S., and Mexico by level of concern.

[Longeyes]

Climate Catastrophe Will Hit Tropics Around 2020, Rest Of World Around 2047, Study Says

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-z...b_4089746.html

Not good news especially worrying to see an article this blatant in Nature

And Norenrad
This is what is happening to the oceans as a consequence of absorbing extra CO2
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-in-the-ocean/

[Wally]

Today we had 2 days of weather over 100 degrees, however last year we had one day where it went to 110. While this might not be that extreme for states in the southern regions, I live in Oregon.
The only reason the corporations would still be in denial about climate change would probably be money. Making things environmentally friendly would likely cost more.

A related link about July 2016 being the hottest month on record.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...month-recorded

[aquila]

hot air

carbon emission is just one of the reason for runaway global warming

human being produce a lot of hot air

autos

power plants

aircraft

humans produce hot air

autos need to go electric - relying more on stored solar energy

power plants need to be fine tuned - cooling tower is a relic of the culprit

aircraft need to cruise at speeds which will reduce fuel consumption

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an example of a circuit breaker design may be found in the home - the consumer refrigerator - notice how the elastic lining on frig door is hot - supposedly heating the elastic lining keeps it supple and flexible in cold temperature - this consumes enormous amounts of electricity - overworks the frig cooling mechanism - whoever designed this mad scheme was not an engineer or materials scientist - imagine the energy in the form of coal fields and uranium ore that was wasted to operate this perverted scheme - elastic lining of refrigerator door may be designed to function without input of heat given proper physical design and choice of materials - elastic material may be designed to function at lower temperatures or gain heat from ambient environment - a heat free elastic lining on refrigerator door may substantially reduce the burden on power plants - entire nuke plants may be shut down - fine tuning consumer items such as the refrigerator will make the solar energy initiative more effective

eventually human being will find a means of connecting their machines to the wheel work of nature - as nikola tesla predicted a century ago - but the notorious heat producing power consuming lining on the frig door will have to go

[aquila]

hot air - continued

nasa produces a lot of hot air

esa produces hot air

rocket launches and rocketry take their toll on the environment

and now, with every developing country vying for puffed up space program, the pilferage is becoming epidemic

example

india is boasting a national space program with plans to launch probes to mars in search of water and signs of life

little knowing that ancient sanskrit text recorded interstellar space travel

space programs may not be made national goals for this very reason

the debilitating effects of national space program are taking their toll on the environment

through the hot air they produce

and the precious materials they consume

nasa and esa have been visiting mars for years in search of water and signs of life

may be its time to take a break in the space race and think this thru

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the dawn space probe consumed 800 kg of xenon as propellant

xenon does not grow on trees

it cannot be renewed or even recycled once it is used

and yet, space agencies regard it as a space race item

xenon is ok as a propellant if you have the means to collect it from gas giant planets such as jupiter

xenon of earth origin may not be used to fuel any space race

genesis of the earth relied on the binding property of xenon

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genesis of the earth relied on the binding property of xenon

[calikid]

Of course you are right Aquila. Global warming is a problem, and mankind should do what it can to reduce emissions that contribute.
But when I think of the dozens of volcanic eruptions that occur each year, tossing carbon into the atmosphere in quantities that dwarf man's emissions, I wonder how big an impact we can have on the problem. I do see that we should try, but the problems are complex and multi faceted.

[whoknows]

Truly the prob is multi faceted! And we need to become cognoscente of the whole. I personally have more worries about what we're doing to our fresh water systems, not leaving out the land and oceans. I remember as a kid they used to say the oceans were so rich that they could feed mankind for hundreds of years no sweat. That no longer seem as certain.

We no so little about these systems and their interaction. As much as we can we need to take a step back and look at the macrocosm and our part in it.

[Longeyes]

Volcanoes co2 emissions don't dwarf human co2 emissions Calikid.
Yeah we are massively overfishing the oceans there are just too many humans on the planet.
Sharks are declining fast tuna is really struggling anywhere where they aren't strickly controls fishing limits are being far too heavily exploited ie oceans off the coast of Africa. water is going to become a problem too.
The oceans are getting more acidic, it's the worst coral bleach in years.
Read somewhere this maybe the hottest year for 125,000 yrs not good

[calikid]

Volcanoes co2 emissions don't dwarf human co2 emissions Calikid.
Yeah we are massively overfishing the oceans there are just too many humans on the planet.
Sharks are declining fast tuna is really struggling anywhere where they aren't strickly controls fishing limits are being far too heavily exploited ie oceans off the coast of Africa. water is going to become a problem too.
The oceans are getting more acidic, it's the worst coral bleach in years.
Read somewhere this maybe the hottest year for 125,000 yrs not good

Been some number of years since I researched the CO2 statistics.
Need to review more current data.
Thanks for alerting me Longeyes (and everyone else who spoke up in PM), I'll take a look at more current numbers.

[Longeyes]

Apparently it's as little as 1% the amount of human emissions.
Massive volcanoes can have a cooling effect but they tend to last a few years as they can project stuff ( dust suflur dioxide etc ) right up into the upper atmosphere but haven't had one big enough for a while.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/vol...al-warming.htm