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  1. #11

    To: Doc

    Okay, what now? Ed

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    Ed, I can't answer any of the questions you raise. I am pretty sure the members and readers find your story and particularly its revelations of the secret world to be interesting. However, this argument about the efforts to discredit you has become tedious, endlessly repetitious, and in spite of our well-intentioned invitation to you to make use of the space and your good intentions, the argument has become a constant moderation problem for the staff here. There are constant accusations which turn the OutPost Forum into some sort of court room which cannot ever come to a satisfying conclusion. Please take the argument somewhere; to email, private messages, anywhere but The OutPost. I'm sure this is very important to you but to by-standers and to us, it is an un-winnable, never-ending rehash of facts only interesting to you combatants. The argument either bends our few rules, goes over the line in some way or threatens to do so with its constant revelation of personal information about individuals' private matters. It no longer looks as if there is any way to keep this discussion on the content of your experience and away from the accusations and counter-chargers. Please take action to resolve this matter on your terms before we have to do it on our terms. Thank you.
    I'm the only 'Discloser' who has shown hundreds of documents. Documents that show my extremely outstanding military service. The highest ratings for over 20+ years. My many medals that any high ranking Officer or NCO would be very proud of. I've been attacked by persons who have never been in the military, persons who have no careers, persons who have felony arrests, persons who live off of their families. Put yourself in my place. I risked my life, pension, and family by coming out and 'Disclosing.' Which I now regret!

    Other that four persons, the attackers, I've been treated very well and FAIR on this forum, and most of the staff and members. Doc, what do you define 'personal honor,' 'serving your country,' 'integrity.' Do you mean to tell me if someone attacked your honor, or posted you were having an affair on your wife, or that you never served in the military for 20+ years, or that all your records were photoshopped, that you wouldn't defend yourself, and be a little 'testy' at the same time???

    I know and respect your job as a moderator/admin, and I respect that. I and Spacemaverick played those roles on the now defunct Alienscientist Forum (Jeremy Rys).
    Jeremy says I took down his 'Alienscientist' Forum. BS! Ask Spacemaverick, he and I worked hours EVERY DAY for a year trying to block and delete the spammers and trolls.
    However we failed as we did not know one of our Admin was a government troll. I had over 4,000 posts, Jeremy Rys had less than 40.

    How could I be attacking his forum when I gladly posted many posts every day along with Dan (Bigpappy51) and Spacemaverick?

    So spell out to me how, why, and the reasons I can defend myself. Still on The OutPost forum are many libel/slanderous attacks on me.
    One or two examples is David Hilton posting a third party attack on me written by a former employee named Mark Woodson.

    Mark Woodson was banned a couple of years ago by the OutPost forum. So why is his slander/libel allowed to be posted third party
    by David Hilton.

    I really am confused. If I'm a liar fine... But I'm not! If every real 'Discloser' were treated like me, who the 'F' would come out???
    Doc, I respect your duties and your rules, but I think you're trying to kill the messenger at times.

    If you know your history, Dan B (Bigpappy 51), Jeremy Rys (Alienscientist), and I were great and supporting friends.
    Then David Hilton (who uses his own name) came out of nowhere and attached himself to us three.
    In short order he became the only active ADMIN.

    Let Bigpappy51 describe what happened next.

    Respectfully, Edgar Fouche

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    Ed, I knew when I posted that would not be the end of the discussion, so I am happy to continue. First, it is based on our past association with you, BigPappy51 and Alienscientist that would like to see you able to continue here, if we are able to get this situation on track. You make excellent arguments for defending yourself, no one could stand by and not respond. The problem for us is the personal attacks, slander (real and alleged) and moreover, the never-ending rehashing of past events. When i wrote, my goal was to have you, the principals in the matter, come up with a way to stop the arguing over who did what to whom back when--and move forward. The more it is your plan, the better I like it. If you set some parameters for yourselves to stay within then it won't be such a moderation headache and liability for The OutPost. Also, I/we are not happy to learn that we may have erred in letting someone post something here that we would not have allowed--but it illustrates the nature of the moderation problems all of this is causing

    For example I would make two suggestions for starting points for you all to get this under control, based on the idea that very lengthy discussion and argument has produced no resolution.

    1) Pick a significant date in the progress of these events and leave interpersonal events from before that date off these threads.

    2) You are also probably going to have to agree to disagree about some things and don't brings those things here.

    See if those ideas are workable and let me know what you think. Any ideas you may have are also welcome.

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    I know there was a time when it was believed Ed was never in The Air Force and the fact that a video was floating around of Ed and David when they were friends. And that video contained conversations where David was blocked by The Pentagon to gain access to Edgar Fouches FOIA The video is gone so I cant refer back to it so I may be wrong. Now that he has got a FOIA from the National Archives several years later Ed was definitely in The Air Force and retired from the AF..

    Now does Eds FOIA seem odd that it is 7 pages for a man who spent 20 years in the Air Force?? Seven pages of material?? This reminds me of when Stanton friedman would get an incident report on a possible UFO crash and everything but a few words are blackened out. Did it take several years to get Eds FOIA because someone had to edit what was given to the public ??

    Does this prove the TR3B exists no but there is a ton of evidence that suggests a massive triangle exists and I don't think anyone will dispute that fact the question is what is that triangle. Im not on here to get into another argument that last one was it for me. No Name calling or no bull.... The problem between David and Ed probably will always be there. Moving forward sounds good as some have stated this is very nerve racking to say the least.

    So with moving forward we now know Ed was in the Air Force for 20 years and his 1st year which I have written on here matches exactly what he had told me before 100 times. So now what does everyone on here believe that a 20 Year career in The Air Force be 7 pages in which some pages are just a paragraph?? I dont think so. Certainly I know they don't go into every assignment one would have but the fact is there is a ton of missing time and material why ?? I would say that is moving forward Im not to get myself into an argument with Ed or David over this. If one more argument takes place I take down my Facebook and quit every forum I'm on.

    There is an absolutely scary side to Eds book and the connections to the book. I don't feel comfortable talking about in public look for yourself connect the dots its pretty easy. Im certainly not the smartest individual around but I am very street smart. I am also very intuitive very much so.I don't think Ed had a clue of who he was involved with when he wrote Alien Rapture it was in the mid 1990s. Back then I had no clue who these people were and many or most of you i would think wouldn't have a clue either. Eds book was controlled it hit me one day while sitting at my desk all at once and I was shocked what came into my mind. Look into who was involved in Eds book why would these people care about a book like Eds if its BS ??

    On a more personal note I have had peace for a while not looking at Conspiracy related material and I think I want to keep it this way. As soon as something starts going on like this right here several things happen. My computer is severely attacked by viruses I have health issues and many other issues why ?? I won't speculate what I know is going on. I was also approached by what people may call Men in Black and was intimidated about 4 yrs ago or so and it was about Ed. When Huge individuals approach you and you are a big person yourself to deliver a message of basically Shut my mouth It gets your attention. Now some have told me that Ed paid these individuals to do this to me well thats not possible and thats all Im going to say about that.
    BigPappy51

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    Concerning the TR-3B, what would you estimate it's top speed to be and what would be it's maximum range (Just how far from Earth can it travel?)

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    This is an edit of my previous post under this subject.


    Possible New World Order connection and the control Edgar Fouches Novel "Alien Rapture The Chosen" ?

    My opinion of Edgar Fouches book was controlled release of information but Ed had no clue this was going on when Ed wrote his book in the mid 1990s. The level of Elites involved and the people that were involved, in every aspect of the production of Eds book makes no sense. Unless one understands these people and the TR3B is real. You must hear and fully understand Ed explain how his book got started about the phone call Ed made to publisher Bob Silverstein (cousin to Larry Silverstein), owner of the 99 year Lease on the World Trade Center's, when the attacks of 9/11 took place.

    The way Bob Silverstein and Ed first talked is very strange for a Publisher/Agent unless you are someone who is extremely famous and a publisher will do anything to publish your book because they will make a fortune or.... Well remember the most powerful thing there is besides money is information and Edgar Fouche had information (The TR-3B) that had to be controlled and discredited if needed. Ed was asked to change his middle name for a few reasons. That middle name is Rothschild, and in the mid 90s I had no clue who the richest people in the world were.

    The Rothschild family is said to be worth in excess of 100 Trillion Dollars. Certainly Bob Silverstein would had known who the Rothschilds were in New York they are very very famous and Elites and are treated like Royalty in New York. And Bob Silverstein jumped to produce Ed's book and got Brad Steiger involved for those who don't know who brad Steiger is. Please Google him he's a very accomplished author and famous. This was Ed's first book why were these amazing people involved in Ed's book ??


    Take a look at the original long version of 'Alien Rapture' by Edgar Fouche. (Alien Rapture - The Chosen - Unabridged Long Version Restored.
    The agent Bob Silverstein and publisher cut out 40% of the original book. This was information the power's to be didn't want you to read or know.
    The book is a page turner for sure and filled with great 'insider' information.


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~
    Alien Rapture: The Chosen follows the amazing journey of Joe Green, a military veteran and DoD engineering contractor. Joe Green has questions – questions about strange experiences he has had and questions about secret technologies which he hears about in his work on black projects. Joe progressively discovers more about amazing Top Secret government research into UFOs and extraterrestrials. Joe is forced to challenge his fundamental beliefs and to re-evaluate preconceived notions of what the US government knows about UFOs. Soon, his life is on the line as he, a reporter, and a fellow scientist seek to reveal the truth about the government conspiracy to suppress knowledge of extraterrestrial intervention in our evolution and in the development of human civilization. In a quest to find out and reveal the truth, the group journeys into the Top Secret Area 51 – Nellis Air Force Base. In a race with US Military security forces and, risking their lives, they decide to use secret communications equipment to reveal to the world decades-old secrets about the government’s knowledge of UFOs and extraterrestrials. Will US military security intercept them before they beam their message to the world? Will Joe Green sacrifice himself to protect humanity?

    Alien Rapture is written as science-fiction but is based on the life of Edgar A Fouche – one of the authors of the novel. In 1998, Fouche became a whistleblower and disclosed information about an advanced triangular aircraft called the TR3B. Ed Fouche decided to use a fictionalised story to try and disclose some of the information he had become party to – whilst protecting the individuals who had given him that information.

    http://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rapture-.../dp/B00N339LHE
    More on this to come.
    BigPappy51

  6. #16
    Ed sent me some copies to read in the past couple of years. I couldn't stop reading. It was very well put together and had very interesting information in it. Very interesting indeed.
    A fantastic journey begins with curiosity

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigpappy51 View Post
    Now does Eds FOIA seem odd that it is 7 pages for a man who spent 20 years in the Air Force?? Seven pages of material??
    No, there is nothing unusual about it at all. It looks to me like a typical technician that became a supervisor in a maintenance shop to me. Nothing special about his career in any way. Even his citations and awards are not all they are being made out to be here. For example the "Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm Leaf" is an award that was given to everyone in Vietnam for pretty much just being in the country during the war. The "Vietnam Service Medal" was again given to everyone in the country for more than 30 days. The "National Defense Service Medal" is given to anyone for not much more than enlisting and finishing basic training. I'm not trying to bash his awards. I'm just saying you need to see them for what they are, and not treat them like they are a Medal of Honor he got for storming Hamburger Hill.

    As far as it being only "7 pages," look at the records for Lt. Col. Jacobsen's (17 pages of mostly awards) and Col. Walter's (7 pages) service record.

    I don't see anything unusual here at all. I see an average career of a maintenance NCO, and that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Hilton View Post
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    I don't see anything unusual here at all. I see an average career of a maintenance NCO, and that's all.

    And there is nothing wrong with that.
    Ed's twenty years of service to his country points to stability, honesty, and honorable sense of duty.

    Thank you Ed, for your service.
    The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
    progress. -- Joseph Joubert
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    Edgar Fouche - Awards and Medals - Exceptional and Outstanding Service - FOIA

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    David Hilton said:
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    I'm not trying to bash his awards. I'm just saying you need to see them for what they are, and not treat them like they are a Medal of Honor he got for storming Hamburger Hill.
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    I don't see anything unusual here at all. I see an average career of a maintenance NCO, and that's all.
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    Let me make this clear, my service was based on exceptional performance and I will address my military service records as posted, and provided by the Department of Defense.
    I am extremely proud of every aspect of my service career. I worked my way up through the ranks, and was awarded medals and significant awards almost yearly.

    My opponents are those who never served their country in any manner. Those who live off their families or friends and have no jobs or careers of significance.
    Whether trolls, or disinformation agents, or just petty people who mock high achievers and their lifelong work, like myself.


    My Performance Reports from 1967 until 1987 (USAF Retirement) and afterwards with the DoD and as a Defense contractor, were the highest ratings possible. Almost 30 years
    of dedicated and outstanding work and service. Yet these attackers have posted all over the internet that I'm a liar, hoaxer, and looser.


    According to my records posted on this forum, I was also a Deputy Superintendant over almost 400 personnel. Over engineers, technicians, logisticians, trainers, DoD contractors, and
    military ranks of E-9 and below (Chief Master Sergeants). I'll address a few of my awards which have been said to be average and let you decide for yourselves Edgar Fouche.
    http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/s...cords-Released

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    Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm Device

    The Gallantry Cross (Vietnamese: Anh Dũng Bội Tinh) is a military decoration of the former Government of South Vietnam (Republic of Vietnam). The medal was created on August 15, 1950 and was awarded to military personnel, civilians, and Armed Forces units and organizations in recognition of deeds of valor or heroic conduct while in combat with the enemy.
    Individuals who received the medal and a citation were personally cited at the Armed Forces, Corps, Division, Brigade or Regiment level. The Republic of Vietnam authorized members of units and organizations that were cited, to wear the Gallantry Cross Unit Citation Emblem with Palm and Frame.
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    (AF = Air Force or USAF) - (OLC = Oak Leaf Cluster for each additional award)

    Presidential Unit Award ('Award' was changed to Citation later).

    The Presidential Unit Citation (PUC), originally called the Distinguished Unit Citation, is awarded to units of the United States Armed Forces, and those of allied countries, for extraordinary heroism in action against an armed enemy on or after 7 December 1941 (the date of the Attack on Pearl Harbor and the start of American involvement in World War II). The unit must display such gallantry, determination, and esprit de corps in accomplishing its mission under extremely difficult and hazardous conditions so as to set it apart from and above other units participating in the same campaign.
    The collective degree of valor (combat heroism) against an armed enemy by the unit nominated for the PUC is the same as that which would warrant award of the individual award of the Distinguished Service Cross, Air Force Cross or Navy Cross. In some cases, one or more individuals within the unit may have also been awarded individual awards for their contribution to the actions for which their entire unit was awarded a Presidential Unit Citation. The Air Force PUC is the only Air Force unit citation enclosed in a gold frame
    We flew intelligence missions over the border in Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, and North Vietnam when I was there in 1969 and 1971. Mostly up and down the Ho Chi Minh trail and other hot spots. Ed
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._(M%E2%80%93S)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_For...issance_Agency


    AF Commendation Medal with Oak Leaf Device (Awarded Twice)

    The Commendation Medal is a United States military decoration which is presented for sustained acts of heroism or meritorious service.
    For valorous actions in direct contact with an enemy
    , but of a lesser degree than required for the award of the Bronze Star Medal,


    Meritorious Service with three Oak Leaf Clusters (Awarded three different times)

    The Meritorious Service Medal (MSM) is a military award presented to members of the United States Armed Forces who distinguished themselves by outstanding meritorious achievement or service to the United States subsequent to January 16, 1969. This decoration may also be bestowed in lieu of the Bronze Star Medal for meritorious achievement in a designated combat theater.

    In the U.S. Air Force, recipients of the Meritorious Service Medal (MSM) are typically field grade officers in pay grades O-4 through O-6 (major, lieutenant colonel, colonel), senior chief warrant officers (CW3 to CW5) in the case of the Army, and senior non-commissioned officers (E-7 to E-9) in the Air Force. Award of the MSM to company grade officers in pay grades O-1 through O-3 (2d lieutenant, 1st lieutenant, captain), junior warrant officers/chief warrant officers (Army only) in pay grades W-1 and W-2, and junior NCOs in pay grades E-7 and below is rare and typically by exception. My first Meritorious Service Award was when I was a Technical Sergeant (E-6) and so as stated that is rare. The MERITORIOUS SERVICE MEDAL is higher ranked than the 'Air Medal' awarded to combat pilots! I was NO technician after my second year in the service, aka 1969.Ed
    http://www.afpc.af.mil/library/awards/

    AF Outstanding Unit Award

    The Outstanding Unit Award is awarded to any unit of the U.S. Air Force which performs exceptionally meritorious service, accomplishes specific acts of outstanding achievement, excels in combat operations against an armed enemy of the United States, or conducts with distinct military operations involving conflict with, or exposure to, a hostile action by any opposing foreign force. Until 2004, the Outstanding Unit Award was the senior most unit award in the U.S. Air Force. Mine were awarded before 1987. Ed


    AF Organizational Excellence Award

    The Air Force Organizational Excellence Award is a unit award of the United States Air Force created by the Secretary of the Air Force on 26 August 1969. The award is presented to Air Force internal organizations that are entities within larger organizations. Examples of eligible organizations are MAJCOM headquarters, Field Operating Agencies, Direct Reporting Units, and other unique unnumbered organizations. It is awarded to Air Force internal organizations that are entities, within larger organizations. They are unique, 'unnumbered' organizations or activities that perform functions normally performed by numbered wings, groups, squadrons, etc. During my career I was the DoD Liaison to the Military Industry (MID). I represented almost every Major Command in the US Air Force. This was from 1967-1987. I was also involved in TS Black Programs (unique) unnumbered organizations! Ed



    Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon

    The United States Air Force awards a single ribbon, known as the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon, for an expert qualification on either the M-16 rifle, M-4 carbine or the individuals AFSC's (duty Air Force Specialty Code) designated handgun weapon. I was allowed to carry a 45 or 9mm in my duties from 1982 on, including on civilian aircraft. I still have my 9mm service weapon to this day. Unfortunately I no longer have a M-16, ha... Ed


    I have many other awards and citations not listed. They are on the back of the DD-214 that I received in 1987 when I retired.
    I have also posted several other awards and my career performance reports.

    Google: Edgar Fouche pictures, or, Edgar Fouche records
    Last edited by calikid; 09-20-2014 at 03:38 PM. Reason: Correction to quoted material

  10. #20

    More information....

    I am just "dropping by" to repost a link to an article I wrote earlier this year, for those that want to have a look at some "other issues" which seem to "link in" with the attacks on Ed Fouche.

    =====================
    Keeping The Secret Space Programme a Secret
    Subtitle: The TR3B, Trolls and the Truth
    Andrew Johnson ( ad.johnson@ntlworld.com)
    02 July 2014

    I sometimes stop to wonder how I can possibly have ended up writing articles like this – and how I can have come to know things that I know. Similarly, I am almost baffled as to how I can have come into contact with the people that I have come into contact with. 20 years ago, I was tutoring and lecturing 16-18 year old pupils in Computing and Maths at a College of Further Education in the East Midlands region of the UK

    Read more...

    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cm...=395&Itemid=53

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