Larger, Older Stonehenge Found New It's Little Brother

[southerncross]

With video
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-34156673

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...away/71846302/

This is a monster. Clearly the culture of the circle goes way back. If this massive older circle existed, it makes me wonder how far back circles indeed go back in history and where did they begin and why? Gobekli Tepe is a circle going back 9-10,000 yrs. it's very sophisticated. So where are the less sophisticated circles ? One exists in SW Egypt, a great and complex astronomical map. Much is buried under the sand and digging forbidden. One archeologist said it could go back many tens if not hundreds of thousands of years as it sits on rock dating back into pre history. But it actuate,y calculates the distances of the stars in Orion. So it's far far more sophisticated and its thought to be associated with the ancient Dogon.
So again, where are the far less sophisticated circles and how old are they ?

There's so much we don't know. And man was a spiritual being far earlier than we will accept in scholastic circles. Funny how they're called scholastic "circles", eh ?

[majicbar]

With video
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-34156673

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...away/71846302/

This is a monster. Clearly the culture of the circle goes way back. If this massive older circle existed, it makes me wonder how far back circles indeed go back in history and where did they begin and why? Gobekli Tepe is a circle going back 9-10,000 yrs. it's very sophisticated. So where are the less sophisticated circles ? One exists in SW Egypt, a great and complex astronomical map. Much is buried under the sand and digging forbidden. One archeologist said it could go back many tens if not hundreds of thousands of years as it sits on rock dating back into pre history. But it actuate,y calculates the distances of the stars in Orion. So it's far far more sophisticated and its thought to be associated with the ancient Dogon.
So again, where are the far less sophisticated circles and how old are they ?

There's so much we don't know. And man was a spiritual being far earlier than we will accept in scholastic circles. Funny how they're called scholastic "circles", eh ?

Now, ask yourelf, both this older Stonehenge Circle and the structures at Gobekli Tepe were burried, WHY? It is no small effort to bury such structures and where did they get the earth and sands that burried them at least a meter above these rock structures? They make such a big deal of the effort to build the pyramids, but what about the efforts to bury these, how many people were involved and for how many years were these efforts underway?

Scholasic circles, good one southerncross!

[southerncross]

Excellent question magicbar.
I know the question has been asked of Gobekli Tepe, but it does make one wonder how many temples or circles are buried in that general time period. Is it a general belief that burying these holy sites protect them from violation, or is there a greater concern involved ?

Gobekli is so large and complex and the sculptural work is so time consuming that to bury it where it can no longer be of service to the people means something was either a serious threat, or the practice is a critical part of their faith. And then you have to ask....If they were protecting it from weather/climate change or invasion/damage, how did they know so far in advance ? It would have taken a long time to bury Gobekli's many circles. And greater Stonehenge is quite a monster. So, why topple the stones and bury their holy site after so much hard labor ? And how did they know in advance. It would have taken a very long time to do it.

These things just keep asking more questions. The two sites are certainly not close to one another. Will we find more buried sites on the European continent between these two sites ?

[Longeyes]

I am pretty sure it is just time. The earth get shifted very slowly by worms the wind and rain dust accumulates etc
No one ,as in a person, is burying these monuments it just natural processes.

[majicbar]

I am pretty sure it is just time. The earth get shifted very slowly by worms the wind and rain dust accumulates etc
No one ,as in a person, is burying these monuments it just natural processes.

As a landform geographer I am pretty well aware of how ground is churned, this is added dirt and sand that had come into the scene since the time before history. It will be interesting to see if somehow they can date the placement of the stella when originally placed. If the soil blew in, there should be obvious stratification in removing it down to the original level whe it was constructed.

[Edward]

Now, ask yourelf, both this older Stonehenge Circle and the structures at Gobekli Tepe were burried, WHY? It is no small effort to bury such structures and where did they get the earth and sands that burried them at least a meter above these rock structures? They make such a big deal of the effort to build the pyramids, but what about the efforts to bury these, how many people were involved and for how many years were these efforts underway?

Scholasic circles, good one southerncross!

Makes me think to the Syfy Series Stargate Sg-1 and Movie Stargate......hmmmm Interesting indeed why would they???? If indeed they did bury it. Could it be a possible hmmmm Portal of sorts, perhaps not as elaborate as the Stargate portals but perhaps a portal none then less connecting two worlds or perhaps two locations on the same world? Who knows but interesting indeed.


Edward

[Doc]

Excellent question magicbar.
I know the question has been asked of Gobekli Tepe, but it does make one wonder how many temples or circles are buried in that general time period. Is it a general belief that burying these holy sites protect them from violation, or is there a greater concern involved ?

Gobekli is so large and complex and the sculptural work is so time consuming that to bury it where it can no longer be of service to the people means something was either a serious threat, or the practice is a critical part of their faith. And then you have to ask....If they were protecting it from weather/climate change or invasion/damage, how did they know so far in advance ? It would have taken a long time to bury Gobekli's many circles. And greater Stonehenge is quite a monster. So, why topple the stones and bury their holy site after so much hard labor ? And how did they know in advance. It would have taken a very long time to do it.

These things just keep asking more questions. The two sites are certainly not close to one another. Will we find more buried sites on the European continent between these two sites ?

If a once dominant sect or cult had been rejected or banished, maybe the "safest" way to neutralize its monument/temple/magic was to bury it? Just a thought.

[Marvin]

Since soil, sand and rock accumulation occurs naturally over time (which is how we get layers of sedimentary rock)… what is the criteria to determine if these sites are naturally buried or buried by man?

For example, the Great Sphinx was buried up to its neck at the time of Tuthmosis IV, was it naturally buried or buried by man?


M

[Doc]

Since soil, sand and rock accumulation occurs naturally over time (which is how we get layers of sedimentary rock)… what is the criteria to determine if these sites are naturally buried or buried by man?

For example, the Great Sphinx was buried up to its neck at the time of Tuthmosis IV, was it naturally buried or buried by man?


M

If I remember from my meager education in Archeology, natural deposits of sediment would be even, often with sedimentary layers, reflecting seasons, wind, water or other gradual sources of deposits. Man-made would be uneven, larger deposits more like shovels full or baskets/barrows full. Sometimes frauds try to bury an artifact at a known site to fake a discovery or to discredit someone else's discovery. Even if they rebuild all the soil around the immediate area, an experienced person could spot the unnatural "look" of the soil because a person can't really duplicate the gradual deposit of soil.

[southerncross]

If a once dominant sect or cult had been rejected or banished, maybe the "safest" way to neutralize its monument/temple/magic was to bury it? Just a thought.

That's an interesting thought. Many archeologists believe Gobekli Tepe was covered by the builders. At least that's what's been publicized so far. If it and Superstonehenge ( and any other covered monuments yet undiscovered ) were covered by a culture of superior strength, who might they have been ? Or what threat, man or natural, might have been so overwhelming that they would bury an important part of their culture ? It's like burying a cathedral or the Library of Congress in the 21st century.