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    Prof. Haim Ashad Ex Dir of Space Programs for Israel's MOD

    Eshed was director of space programs for Israel Ministry of Defense for nearly 30 years. Karl Nell recently backed all his claims so it worth putting them out there again.

    He wrote a book unfortunately only available in Hebrew in 2020. He came out with some extraordinary claims about aliens.

    BOOK

    היקום מעבר לאופק : שיחות עם פרופ' חיים אשד = The universe beyond the horizon : Conversations with Professor Chaim Eshed

    NBC and others covered the story ?Eshed said cooperation agreements had been signed between species, including an ?underground base in the depths of Mars? where there are American astronauts and alien representatives.

    ?There is an agreement between the U.S. government and the aliens. They signed a contract with us to do experiments here,? he said.

    Eshed added that [President Donald Trump](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump) was aware of the extraterrestrials? existence and had been ?on the verge of revealing? information but was asked not to in order to prevent ?mass hysteria.? ?

    However there was an in depth interview conducted at the time

    https://www.yediot.co.il/articles/0,...854241,00.html

    OrigamiFace2 on Reddit has done a translation of it...

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    "The UFOs asked not to advertise that they are here, humanity is not yet ready" Prof. Haim Ashad headed the Israeli space program and led the "Ofek" satellite launch project. But only after he left his official duties did he turn to what really interests him: aliens. In a new book, 'The Universe Beyond the Horizon', he claims that extraterrestrials from all over the universe are already walking among us, encounters of the third kind are just around the corner and the "Galactic Federation" is delaying the release of information so as not to cause panic. Now he tells how the aliens prevented several nuclear holocausts, what's really going on at the mysterious farm in Utah and when we can visit black holes Raanan Shaked Photo: Gabriel Beharlia It was a great start to the week. really. On Sunday, I left Prof. Haim Ashad's house in an uplifted mood: someday soon, for sure, we will make contact with extraterrestrials, they will teach us everything they know, science will leap a thousand light years ahead, we can start traveling through time and space and jump with the children to the end "Q In the Pleiades cluster, 444 light-years away from the solar system - much better than Holon Park - and maybe even the solution to the Benny Gantz riddle will be found.
    This is the good news.
    There is also excellent news, but let's wait a bit with it. patience. We have waited thousands of years for a meeting of the third kind - and this meeting is already just around the corner, Prof. Ashad believes that it will happen in his lifetime, and the man is 81 years old - so you will agree to wait only until the middle of this article with the excellent news. Hint? It is about eternal life, but not in this body - sorry, Neta Alkhmeister and Aviv Elosh; Not in this body. Details later on.
    I wouldn't have bothered with the spontaneous burst of joy - what with a burst of joy and a Sunday - and I wouldn't have stood in my tiny home garden that night staring at the sky
    In eager anticipation of I-don't-know-what - if it weren't for Prof. Haim Ashad. Not everyone.
    Prof. Ashad is one of Israel's most respected and sharp spacemen and researchers, the one who headed the administration of the Israel Space Agency in the Ministry of Defense and was directly responsible for the planning and development of Israel's satellite program and the launch of the first satellite, "Ofek 1", in 1988, with the specially developed "Comet" launcher. Later he was also involved in the invention and development of Israeli UAVs and unmanned aerial vehicles. And the rest is history, secret rifle.
    What about a pilot, senior aeronautics researcher and technologist, who won the Israel Security Award and the Chief of Staff's Bezalesh, and foreigners? Ashad is in no way a geek from the comic book store who tells you about the flying saucer that landed in his yard yesterday afternoon just as he was feeding the cats. No; Ashad is perhaps the senior responsible adult in Israel in the field of - let's say - things flying at jet speed for purposes for which silence is preferable.
    But in the last decade, he admits, the aliens keep him busy, and in the last two years the business has already become inflationary; With about 6,000 reports in the previous year about UFOs observed in the West, and with the recording of the celestial object "Umoamua" in Hawaii - for which Prof. Avraham Leib, head of the astronomy department at Harvard, determined that it was a UFO - Ashad can no longer hold back. "Even Harry Reid, former majority leader in the US Senate, now gave an interview and said: put pressure on the government to publish the evidence it has accumulated over the years. Enough is enough."
    Until recently, Ashad actually managed to hold back, but then Trump officially established the "Space Arm", and the press was given an announcement that the Pentagon's "Task Force for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena" would begin publishing its findings to the public every six months. At the same time, the "Skinwalker" cattle ranch of the American billionaire Robert Bigelow in Utah - a place that was previously suspected to be a favorite destination for extraterrestrials - recorded some things that no amount of popcorn in the world would be enough to watch.
    "Abnormal phenomena have now been recorded at this farm," an enthusiastic Ashad. "A team of scientists from NASA and MIT graduates brought all possible instruments there - cameras, spectrometers, spectrographs, gamma-rays, X-rays, UV, IR, all fields, and they saw things that I, who have been researching this for ten years , I was left with my mouth open. not only me I spoke with Prof. Itzik Ben-Israel (currently the chairman of the Space Agency) who always chuckled a little, and he was also thrilled."
    What did they see there?
    "You know the term portal in this context? So you see a UFO appear there - you photograph it with the entire spectrum of the cameras, you see the radiation at all frequencies, it's raging!"
    Couldn't it be some familiar aircraft?
    "No! It shows definite signs of UFOs: crazy accelerations, lack of gravity, 90 degree changes of direction at tremendous speeds, shapeshifting. And all the scientists there are in complete shock."
    And what is the UFO doing?
    "You see the radiation jump, and you see how a shape-changing body arrives, light comes out of it at a frequency that you cannot see with the naked eye - in fact, you see nothing when you look normally - but with the cameras, at the high frequencies, you see this body perform" Cattle Mutilation' - drawing blood from the cattle on the ground in front of your eyes."
    What exactly did they see?
    "Something like a cloud like that. Like you draw a ghost for children. It's like an undefined cloud, amorphous, and the horns come out of it, and you see the cow twitching. And when it's over, everyone runs to the field to see, and there's nothing there, no blood - but the cow's body has a cut which is like with a laser. They took out her organs and sucked her blood!
    Why doesn't Robert Bigelow himself tell about it?
    "He received huge funding from NASA as part of programs that my friends there only mumble about under their breath, and he made a written commitment that everything goes to the Pentagon and is housed there. It upsets him that the Ministry of Defense is not ready to release anything."
    ? ? ?
    Well, we'll have to stop here for a moment, because we've only just begun and later Prof. Ashad may say even more far-reaching things, so it's worth paying attention here and now to, let's say, the speed of his connection at his age; Well, she is absolute.
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    In fact, Ashad looks much younger and energetic than his age. His study is full of books, signs of appreciation and above all countless folders in which he meticulously stores every scrap of article on the subjects of his occupation - including, in the last decade, extraterrestrials. And he talks about the subject with the same twinkle in his eye with which Richard Dreyfus runs through Spielberg's Encounters of the Third Kind. In fact, Ashad is currently a kind of Israeli Dreyfus traveling against the direction of traffic on the way to a meeting that he knows is about to take place at the foot of a mountain whose shape he unknowingly sculpted in his pile of mashed potatoes.
    The amount of material and information that Ashed has accumulated on the subject, along with his almost childlike enthusiasm, cause him, more than once, to zigzag between different matters and subjects in a pattern quite identical to that of an average UFO: rapid changes of direction, far-reaching accelerations, a shape that takes time to stabilize.
    The degree of his determination - even when it stands against what seems to be reasonable logic or the perceptions of the "mainstream academy", as he calls it - accumulates throughout the conversation and becomes, at some point, convincing. His new book, The Universe Beyond the Horizon (published by Yedioth Ahronoth), which was written in collaboration with the writer Hagar Yanai and serves as a kind of biography that unfolds the story of his life, devotes its entire last and extensive part to utopology - the study of extraterrestrials and the hundreds of findings and testimonies collected in the field to date. The materials are serious and authoritative, and do not include explicit references to Elf or Mork from the planet Ork. You quickly read these pages in the book and find yourself muttering at the end, against your better judgment: damn, they're here.
    "If I had come with what I am telling you today five years ago, I would have been hospitalized," Ashad knows. "Every place I approached in the academy with this to this day, they threw me out. Even though I was a star in other fields, when I got to it they said: The guy is out of his mind. Today they talk differently, today they say 'interesting' - but changing a paradigm in science is more difficult than changing a paradigm with a rabbi Kanievsky".
    Aren't you taking an academic risk when you interview on the subject now?
    "Nowadays I have nothing to lose. I received my degrees and awards, I am respected in universities abroad, and even there the trend is changing and they are ready to talk about it, even if in many places they still say: Listen, make sure the elephant in the room stays in the room, and don't quote us."
    Where do they say such things?
    "American presidents also testified to this. Truman admitted that he saw a whole group of extraterrestrials over Washington. Nixon, who was a friend of comedian Jackie Gleason and knew he was crazy about UFOs, told him: 'I'm going to make your dream come true,' and took him to the base White-Patterson and showed him bodies of extraterrestrials. Gleason became depressed about it. Eisenhower's granddaughter testifies that her grandfather signed an agreement with the aliens, that they would have a secret landing base here in Area 51 in Nevada, they would be able to come into contact with a limited number of people, conduct experiments, and the condition is that they provide us with technologies - for example, anti-gravity (hypothetical technology that allows a place or For an object to detach itself from the force of gravity - RS)
    And did we get these technologies?
    "Yes. We have anti-gravity and other things."
    So why are they hiding from us and how is it possible that governments and armies in the world are able to cooperate in concealment of this magnitude?
    "Not all the governments of the world. There is a group of partners - the Americans, the Russians, the Japanese, the English and the Chinese - all of them are coordinated at a level that it is still forbidden to publish, and the one who asked not to publish is them."
    who are they
    "The Galactic Federation".
    "It exists. I wrote about it even though it was seen as a conspiracy theory, but lately former senior generals are also saying to publish, and Trump was on the verge of revealing, and a few mainstream professors are also saying: Guys, tell. But the aliens in the Federation are saying: wait, let First calm the spirits, don't publish yet because you'll see what's happening with you. You're still fighting each other, you'll destroy yourselves."
    Why don't they come and talk to us directly?
    "Because it will create panic and collapse humanity. After all, what will happen? The markets will collapse, there will be nothing to eat, people will become cannibals, hospitals will be shut down, all the dark passions will come out, this could be the end - and they are not interested in it. On the contrary, they are constantly watching - And there are a lot of reports about it - after the nuclear events in the world, they monitor all the nuclear weapons stations and bases - I'm ready to give you all the things in writing - and there were already things they prevented. Know that it's not just luck that the Russians did not use nuclear weapons in the Bay of Pigs The Americans. Someone neutralized it. Without them, I have no doubt that humanity would have destroyed itself. They want to tell humanity: calm down."
    Why don't they make contact when they say goodbye and say it explicitly?
    "The UFOs asked not to advertise that they are here, humanity is not yet ready. There will be a great rampage of all, and what the Inquisition did to guys like Galileo and Copernicus will be back. They want to make us sane and understanding first. They waited until today, for humanity to develop and reach a stage where we even understand what space and spacecraft are - think about it, in the First World War we didn't even have airplanes - and they don't want mass hysteria to arise, with the best example being what happened in 1938, with Tashkith Orson Welles' War of the Worlds, and the police collapsed and everything blew up in the streets. And what they say is this: First of all let's stabilize, that the stock markets don't fall, that there won't be rampage, that humanity calms down a bit."
    Are we in communication with them regarding the publication date?
    "There is an agreement between the US government and the extraterrestrials - I can't prove it, I understand that it sounds like a conspiracy theory - but the understanding is that the Galactic Federation has nine elements of advanced extraterrestrials of various types, who signed a contract with us to do experiments here."
    What interest do they have in us?
    "There are all the resources here. There is water here in quantities that are not found anywhere else, there are all types of vegetation, all types of animals, the ocean."

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    But as a developed intelligence than us, what good are we to them?
    "We are their petri dish. They are also researching and trying to understand the whole fabric of the universe, and they want us as helpers. To date, the petri dish has not been stabilized - but the assessment is that we are reaching this stage: religion accepts their existence - the Vatican has already announced that it wants to baptize them; The UN appointed an ambassador for extraterrestrial affairs (Mulan Othman - Rash); the corona has calmed everything down and brings us closer to them."
    Come on, in this day and age there's no way something like that could be kept a secret .
    "How many years did they keep the fact that the Earth is not the center of the universe a secret? 1,500 years. Or the 'Manhattan Project' (US atomic bomb project - Rash)? Do you know how many people worked there? 150,000 people. How many knew what it was? ? Three. So if you want to keep something like that a secret, you can. And there is a terrible, obsessive system of silence by the Americans, who decided, under the guidance of the aliens, that Robert Bigelow also said: I can't publish the films.
    Why, will they kill him?
    "Yes. They killed a lot on the way. Everyone who opened their mouth."
    ? ? ?
    You realize that the discussion with Ashad almost always slips into the expected pattern where you try to stop the flow of speech of a person shaken with a story that requires at least some degree of skepticism. In front of each of your "yes, but" there are ten more apparent proofs in the form of articles, quotes, opinions and gut feelings that feel solid. It's still a fascinating discussion, mainly because it's about Ashed - someone who is fully aware of the conspiratorial ring, which overlaps, of the whole business, and still he insists that there are things - probably flying - in his body.
    Throughout most of his years, Ashad actually stuck to the here and now. The new book tells his story as a boy who immigrated with his parents from Istanbul in the difficult 1940s to the border between the Moghrabi neighborhood and Tikva in Tel Aviv, was cataloged in elementary school as a stereotypical and hopeless product of the neighborhood, was paved for a vocational school and was accepted, still without a matriculation certificate, to study at the Technion, before in the Faculty of Building and then in Electrical Engineering. The continuation already included a doctorate in aeronautical engineering, the development of technological infrastructure and means of warfare for the Intelligence Division, and a professional show, when following the peace agreement with Egypt and the stopping of the possibility of freely photographing what was happening in Sinai, Ashad came up with the then improbable idea of launching an observation satellite into space. The objections were overwhelming, but nine years and about 200 million dollars later, Ofek 1 was launched, making Israel the seventh country in the world with the ability to develop and launch satellites.
    Ashad spent the next 29 years in Israel's defense space program, and after his official retirement continued to develop a science curriculum for middle schools - including the actual launching of tiny box satellites by students.
    That's roughly when the extraterrestrials began to enter his peaceful life, or as he clarifies immediately at the beginning of the conversation: "For me, space is an obsession. When an ordinary person looks at the sky at night, he sees darkness and some stars. I see amazing things there all the time. Time-space, pulsars, Stars forming, things accumulating - listen, space is Times Square on the 4th of July. Space is a carnival."
    Eshad believes with complete faith in the arrival of extraterrestrials, although personally he admits that he has never seen a UFO. "I think it is very close - next year NASA will launch the James Webb telescope into space, which will replace the Hubble Terenta, and it will detect real signs of life ".
    How many life forms are there in space?
    "There are thousands of stars with conditions similar enough to ours, and serious scientists have identified and documented dozens of life forms - although the mainstream does not accept it. The closest to us are what we call the 'greys', which are gray creatures with big eyes like we saw in Spielberg, and it is likely that contact will be made with them".
    Where are they geographically close to us?
    "It is assumed that some of them came from the Pleiades, planets that have living conditions that we know - we can't get there, but they can get to us because they are much more advanced."
    Where else in the neighborhood is there life?
    "There is an underground base in the Mars Condenser, and there are their representatives there as well as our American astronauts."
    How do we know that?
    "Do you want articles? There are. But science, so far, doesn't want to hear."
    What do their aircraft look like?
    "The big spaceship is almost the size of a small city. Small spaceships come out of it - most of them robotic, manned by intelligent robots. At first they will send such robots, primitive in their view, or a message that we will have to decipher."
    To reach us they have to move at least at the speed of light. What is their propulsion method - rocket? Nuclear?
    "No. They have a method for producing a bubble that neutralizes time-space, and the tool does not move - space moves, and this is consistent with the theory of general relativity. Take for example an ant that wants to get from one end of a page to the other. Now let's say that I folded the page in half - it goes to the other side His in a second. That's how time-space is also folded."
    What do they use to move time-space?
    "It's a bit complex physics; the propulsion is based on dark energy - 25 percent of the universe is dark matter - which makes it possible to distort time-space and reach other galaxies in no time. You can create a tiny black hole - this, by the way, is what is done in the particle accelerator in Switzerland - which sucks stars and ejects them quickly. These are technologies that sound like science fiction, but they are on the verge."
    And what will happen when they reach us?
    "Humanity will connect to the fabric of the universe, and once we connect, our science will jump thousands of years, we will be capable of anti-gravity, we will be able to move between star systems, religion will lose the control it has today - extraterrestrials do not believe in religion, they believe in deciphering the fabric of the universe, which is not God , is mathematics".
    Tell me, why are they always described as relatively short creatures, with long necks and big heads? This is exactly the way the immediate human imagination will see them.
    "No. They have all kinds of shapes - they are a function of the star around which they cluster, and some of them can change shape."
    Is this biologically plausible?

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    "Yes. Here is an example that you will understand immediately" - Ashad points to the heavy wooden table between us. "It's a table, yes? It's made of atoms. And if the atom's nucleus is here on the table - do you know where its electron is? Maybe at the top of a corner, maybe in the middle of nothing. This is quantum theory; matter is empty."
    But you and I don't know how to turn this table into something else now.
    "But we are also energy. Even when we die we do not die, because we are made of molecules and atoms, and we move to another energy. You connect back to the cosmic fabric, to the network, to the connection of consciousnesses. You are consciousness."
    She will die with me, won't she?
    "No, forget it. Consciousnesses will not die. Everything you have accumulated is added. It goes to the same network - and everything you have accumulated in your life, the personality, the totality of what you have been through, it accumulates. Even Stephen Hawking realized that our consciousness adds to the fabric of the universe. We are building blocks a step on the way."
    Biologists will tell you nonsense, it's all chemical and electrical activity in the brain.
    "Bring me proof. Do you know that this is the biggest debate in science - consciousness? They haven't concluded it, and there are phenomena that cannot be explained by electrical activity in the brain."
    ? ? ?
    I admit that at this point in the discussion I have already transferred all my chips to Ashad's side. I'm with him on this bet. I am ready and ready, when the day comes, for the renewed connection of my consciousness to the general fabric - save me a place next to Jerry Seinfeld's consciousness - and I await with mild vigilance, along with Ashad, the official announcement regarding the continuation of the contact with the aliens - it is likely, at least, that it will not come through A special message from the Prime Minister, that Ashad believes that Netanyahu is not in the secret of affairs. "Most countries are isolated from it," he says. and better this way.
    It's all too easy - certainly as the last paragraph suggests - to dismiss most of this conversation as somewhat delusional, but Ashad is still someone who has racked up enough reliable and impressive mileage in his life. From a service with the rookie Netanyahu ("I can tell you things that will knock you down") to conversations with Elon Musk ("He's a genius. Sit with him and you might feel a little like me - he's a bit of a jerk like that, but he lives things, and his company, 'SpaceX ', connected to the topic of aliens") - Ashad made sure to stay, precisely in his business, with both feet on the ground. "I'm not a space scientist, I'm a space technologist," he clarifies.
    Not that he wouldn't pay any amount to venture out of the atmosphere. In fact, he says, he was among the candidates to be the first Israeli astronaut, but Ilan Ramon was finally chosen, "and he was supposed to replace me after his return as head of the defense space program, and allow me to return to the academy."
    In retrospect, you must be glad you didn't fly.
    "No, I'm very disappointed. Listen, humanity won't survive here, and if someone doesn't take care of the environment, I give us less than 50 years. Humanity will die - I hope they (Ashad points to the ceiling) won't let that happen. Space is our longing To know where we came from and where we are going."
    But in space tourism, they simply take you up to an altitude of a hundred kilometers and then you come back. What else is there to do there?
    "Your consciousness changes. If you go into space, you come back different. Your image is different. Ask any astronaut who was there."
    Are you jealous of Ethan Stiva?
    "He is a wonderful guy, and what happened is that they took it and messed it up with a Bibiist method. Eitan came and said: I want it and I'm ready to pay. There were already five American billionaires who left before him. So they came and hitched a ride on him, and the Minister of Science, and harnessed him to the mission and that. And he really I just wanted to have the experience and my heart sank."
    Is space tourism even a scientific matter?
    "No, it will end up as a hobby for the rich. What is really interesting is mining asteroids - which have huge amounts of precious materials on them, gold and platinum that on Earth have already sunk into the center of the sphere and with asteroids they are still on the surface. You don't even need to land on them, you can just reach and anchor near them , and mine what you want. And Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are already planning it, it will be a new gold rush."
    What else will happen in the next decade?
    "I estimate that quantum computers will reach a level that surpasses human capacity in terms of consciousness. This will be super-consciousness, they will be smarter than us and much more significant than now. And the computer's ability will advance human consciousness - we will stop with all the pettiness and miri regev and look ahead, where we want to go To move forward. If you understand that your consciousness is building the universe, you will say: I contribute my part, I am moving forward. I believe that humanity will stop dealing with pettiness and rise to a different level."
    Right now things seem to be going in the opposite direction, with polarizing social media and all.
    "It's momentary. It's like a Petri dish that has problems that need to be neutralized. We need to give science the opportunity to work. Today, the only thing that keeps us sane is science."
    He himself continues to research, advise and work with the Science Center in Herzliya, which delivers the science program to middle schools in six centers in the periphery. His eldest daughter has repented ("in the middle of her PhD", he sadly informs), the middle son is a startup, and the youngest daughter, now 39, works in Philadelphia as an analyst in the capital market.
    This state of affairs has left Ashad, throughout the Corona, without visits from his grandchildren, and he is not used to this kind of disconnection. Married for the third time (the children are from his first wife), Ashad finds himself, more than once, missing, but he believes that here too, science is on the way to salvation.
    "Quantum theory says you can be both here and there, and you know what Einstein said about quantum theory? That it's the dumbest thing that can be, but it works," he says. "And this also means that we will be able to manipulate space-time, and while I am sitting here with you, I will also be able to sit with my daughter in Philadelphia. The granddaughters are constantly asking where Grandpa is, and it will be possible for us - to be there, really there, not with alternate reality helmets. And you will be able Hug your daughter even if she is in another country. Prof. Michio Kaku (Japanese-American physicist, one of the developers of string theory - Rash) said: 'We will be able to jump 400 years ahead like a frog.' Think what has happened in just the last 50 years: how many years has the Internet been around? cell phone? Now think in terms of a leap of 400 years."

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