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Thread: 'Drones' over Lackenheath Dec 2024

  1. #21
    I am not sure "not able to be brought down" necessarily applies in the US case. Everything I have seen from fist hand accounts suggests no one is trying because it is very tricky ground to bring down aerial objects over civillian areas. If anyone finds any direct whistleblower accounts of not being able to take them down in the US please post them here.

    I have seen no heat signatures and very difficult to track, very long range and ability ot turn lights on and off when pursued. I have only seen one account of electrical interference and that was a bit dubious.

  2. #22
    Here is a new article from the UK Daily Mail yesterday with some details. It mentions not being able to take them down again (in the UK), but also says a police chopper managed to catch one on infrared imaging.



    EXCLUSIVE - Startling image of mystery drone over US air base in UK revealed as bombshell report claims FBI has known about swarms over military sites for a year
    By JOSH BOSWELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and CHRIS SHARP FOR DAILYMAIL.COM Published: 14:47 EST, 17 December 2024 | Updated: 14:55 EST, 17 December 2024

    Unauthorized drones have been zipping across US military bases at speeds of up to 170mph, easily dodging radar and signal-jamming systems.

    But contrary to the non-answers intelligence officials have been dishing out as New Jersey residents panic about ?car-sized? drones flying over their homes for the past month, the government has been aware of this threat for over a year, DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal.

    Exclusively obtained images show one craft photographed by specialist military units over a US airbase in England last month. DailyMail.com also obtained excerpts from a joint US Air Force, NASA and FBI report on previous airbase incursions, and an account from a senior officer briefed on the incidents.

    This news follows repeated widespread sightings of drones near military bases in New Jersey and other states over the past month.

    And a public outcry over the swarms prompted a stunning admission from FBI chiefs to Congress - they don't know where these craft are coming from.

    DailyMail.com obtained an internal government report showing federal agencies knew about incursions from apparent advanced drones over a year ago but have failed to put a stop to them.

    Langley Air Force Base in Virginia was swarmed with dozens of drones for weeks in December 2023, creating a security panic. The incident was kept secret until it was revealed by defense magazine The Warzone in March this year.

    A report authored by the Air Force, FBI and NASA ? which has a facility next to Langley air base ? said that their 'detection equipment' and 'signal jamming' had 'failed', in a presentation slide titled 'lessons learned,' DailyMail.com can reveal.

    . . .

    The source, a senior officer, was briefed in detail on the drone incursions at RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk, England, which began on November 20.

    Lakenheath is a highly sensitive location for the US military, reportedly earmarked earlier this year to store some of America's arsenal of nuclear weapons.

    The officer told DailyMail.com that drones were recorded flying at up to 170mph near the base, chased a police helicopter, and appeared to be controlled remotely using radio frequencies outside of the normal bands used for military or civilian drones.

    'The drones were flying in with no lights. When they were close to the site, they were turning on the lights going, "Here I am," and as far as I know not one piece of our equipment could bring it down or spot it,' the source said.

    When one of the objects was detected near the Lakenheath base around November 20, police sent a chopper to investigate.

    'The drones were flying in set formation and then immediately locked on to the helicopter,' the source said.

    'Long range UAVs [drones] that the US military use, there's a couple of seconds lag in the system. A report from the pilot said it must have been controlled by a controller within the UK, as there was no lag in the response.

    'When the police helicopter climbed, the drones climbed with it. When the police helicopter tried to leave the area, the drones followed it.

    'They were traveling really fast, faster than anything they'd seen before. From police helicopter footage, one of the drones was tracked traveling at 170mph.'

    The officer said one helicopter even caught the advanced drone on an infrared camera in a video which is now classified.

    'There is a 30-minute video of the incident,' they said. 'The camera on the helicopter was in IR mode, infrared. There is approximately one minute of footage when you can see a craft which looks like a fixed wing craft, and the maneuver that it does on the screen is like a very fast banking maneuver.

    'It's very, very advanced technology. It can move very fast, and it can't be detected on any of the systems that we've currently got.

  3. #23
    Hi Shere Khan

    Great article by Chris Sharp
    Saw a news item think it was Newsnation where a police officer in NJ reported they couldn't lock see it with their infrared camera, so maybe its variable? Haven't heard of any take downs as far as I can see the still have no idea what's going on. Would love to hear what they learn if they have.
    Or just dont want to admit it's NHI?

  4. #24
    Lue on Newsnation about the drones


  5. #25
    Uk government has had two Cobra meetings over the UK drones the Times reports today
    (Article is unfortunately behind a pay wall but should be up on the wayback machine later.)

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/...tate-fhs07lnb7

    Drones over UK’s American airbases ‘may be controlled by hostile state’
    The unidentified drones use technology so sophisticated that the authorities have been unable to track them, capture them or identify those responsible...

  6. #26
    The article is up on the wayback machine today so can quote a little more of it.
    Great work by the UK Times though.

    The Times has learnt there have been at least two meetings of Cobra, the emergency response committee, over the mystery drones flown over American airbases in England. Military police, troops including members of the US Navy and police with drone expertise have been investigating the incursions over RAF Lakenheath, RAF Mildenhall, RAF Fairford and RAF Feltwell...

    ..The drones were flown around the bases in late November and early December and varied in size and configurations, according to the US military. The authorities have ruled out the work of hobbyists because of the sophistication of the technology involved and also because the flights were co-ordinated over a series of days.
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    However, despite the advanced technology available at the military bases, they were unable to track the drones? signals or pinpoint launch locations. No drones have been captured, which would have allowed their examination, and they were not affected by electronic countermeasures such as jamming.

    A Whitehall source said: ?They?re very sophisticated, very fast. This is not the work of hobbyists but no one is confident of attribution at the moment.?

  7. #27
    Would there be some way for the government to add backup AI to their drones so that in case they get jammed they would not just fall out of the sky or crash? Ideally the AI would be sophisticated enough to allow the drone to continue it's investigation of the anomalous drones that may be causing the jamming but it may be simpler to just make it so that if jamming occurs the government drone lands or returns to its point of origin.
    My inner Mulder wants to believe, but my inner Scully remains skeptical.

  8. #28
    A Closer Look at the New Jersey Drones, Orbs, and Plasmoids Situation

    19 hours ago . . .


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOt-M3-L5_M&t=767s

  9. #29
    Really p*ss poor article in the NYTimes about the drones.
    Kind self referential rubbish we seem to constantly get from many members of the press.
    If they made the tiniest bit of effort to properly investigate the drones is blindingly obvious these aren’t commercial drones.
    It’s disappointing people are really slow to pick up on this stuff, guess we have to wait for the giant ships to appear in the sky before these guys figure it might be something a bit more significant

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/24/n...rk-drones.html

  10. #30
    Another article on the drones in the UK press.

    He mentions to Cobra Meeting. Do they now think it is the Russians ? or is it just the journalist putting two and two together himself ? It is unfortunately too easy after the wave has passed to make the facts fit the story. The tech involved seemed too advanced he dismisses the US NJ drones as copycat events but anyone following this closely knows that’s bullsh&t.
    Putin would surely have used this kind of technology in Ukraine? If it is him why not?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tin-blame.html

    ….’In fact what they were seeing was some of the illegal and so far unexplained drone activity over four American airbases in the UK – RAF Lakenheath and Mildenhall in Suffolk, RAF Feltwell in Norfolk, and RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire – that caused a major security alert last month. On some nights, there were dozens of drones over Lakenheath, which is on course to host nuclear weapons.

    Now the Mail has learnt that it wasn’t just US air bases that were targeted – defence sources have revealed British bases around the country were also buzzed by drones, as part of what the government believes was a coordinated operation by a foreign state. ‘There was a lot of activity which was pretty widespread across the UK, and not just US bases,’ said an inside…

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